What's wrong with Amel? Everything you need to know - Episode 114 - Lady K Sailing

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Lady K Sailing

Lady K Sailing

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Amel is one of the best cruising sail boats in the world but what's wrong with Amel? Are there Amel problems? Should you buy an Amel? This weeks Everything you Need to Know is all about Amel.
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@JayPerrypersonal
@JayPerrypersonal 3 жыл бұрын
Our electric furlers are all working just fine at 27 years old. Also an Amel Super Maramu is around $200000 you would get a Amel 54 for less than $500000. I have been sailing over 40 years, living full time onboard for 6 years. Lived and sailed on Jenneau etc, they are definitely not luxury compared to even a much older Super Maramu. The SM is far more comfortable to liv and sail on. On our Jenneau we arrived from multi day passages tired, often cold, wet etc. On the SM we arrive refreshed, warm, dry, showered not smelling etc. OK there is more maintenance but due to more systems. You add water maker, generator, dishwasher, washing machine, air conditioning etc to any boat you increase maintenance. Benefit to Amel is they are high quality and factory fitted. If you don’t use them then fine. We removed dishwasher, make room for beer cooler and ice maker. Our air conditioning didn’t work in aft cabin so removed it. For a boat that size to sail single handed, as designed for a couple to sail the world, so while one sleeps the other is single handed, you need electric winches and furling etc. However there is manual backup for everything. All I can say if if we ever change boat again, it will be for another Amel never sail ‘ live on anything else now.
@c.a.mcneil7599
@c.a.mcneil7599 2 жыл бұрын
I am so happy for you you found something that works for YOU.... to bad it took 40years is all wish you best of luck. keep rule number 1 in play keep water out.
@JayPerrypersonal
@JayPerrypersonal 2 жыл бұрын
@@c.a.mcneil7599 mate didn’t taken 40 years to find it…… It took 40 years before I could afford it and take the time off from work life to go enjoy it. 🤣😂👍⛵️
@corujariousa
@corujariousa 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for your comment. I am working with the dream of acquiring one in the future (Discovery, Garcia, OVNI are also on my wish list. Tough choices). Just need the kids to be done with college. :-) Enjoy the adventures!
@Albro359
@Albro359 Жыл бұрын
I agree entirely....we have owned our Super Maramu for 13 years now, sailed over 40,000 nm in the Pacific and have had ZERO problems with electric motors. They are NOT an issue. The major advantages of AMEL are the SOLID construction, easily handed sails and the totally protected helm position. The maintenance issues are reallty no different to other boats of the same size...mostly pumps, heads, running rigging, antifoul....but the difference in comfort is immeasurable. You cannot know how good it is until you have sailed on one. I wouldn't have anything else.
@sailingyoumeandjosapea6770
@sailingyoumeandjosapea6770 Жыл бұрын
Wow I’m glad I looked at these comments. I got scared of the SM because of the systems but then decided the Sentorin was the one for me now you have helped me . I’ve been part of the owner group about five years now I follow everything people fix on the boats I actually feel now I’m ready for one . If anyone with an Amel is ever in the uk please can I come sailing with you ? I’ll help with maintenance which I’d actually really enjoy and I can fix shit I’m good at fixing stuff.
@perigeesailboat
@perigeesailboat 3 жыл бұрын
First boat owner, not mechanically minded, nor electrical - bought a boat - spent 6 weeks fitting-out, and then took off for the blue water - been cruising and living aboard since, all waters, all weather. Sure, adopted the Pardeys ethos - creating the unbreakable boat - so we do carry a few spares (but no more than any other remote-area cruiser wanting a degree of self-sufficiency) - and we do need to spend 4-6 weeks a year pausing for repairs and maintenance, but this is no different from any other blue-water cruiser who is out there and doing it. I find that there are no more breakages on average than other makes, but the access for R&M is far better thought out, so less daunting. Maintenance is more likely to be done, repairs not a challenge (apart from the steep learning curve - but that would be the same for any first-boat owner on any make). It is not so much systems complexity - the systems (design & implementation) are straightforward - but the number of systems does add up. But there is a price to pay for comfort, and redundancy. One fridge/freezer fails - we have another (not that a single one has failed, yet, touch wood). Yes, you guessed it, happy AMEL owner (4 years on) ... Can we afford it? Probably not, but we worked long & hard, you only live once, and all that stuff .
@andrewmcclaren8780
@andrewmcclaren8780 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a very interesting review of the Amels, and the history of Henri Amel. A couple of comments from a happy Super Maramu owner:- My understanding of the design aims was for a boat which would allow two people to safely and comfortably sail around the world. Flowing from this were several design decisions including:- - a ketch rig so that individual sails were smaller and easier to handle - furling motors so that most sail trim could be done without leaving the cockpit - manual backup for motorised sail furling - duplicated autopilot systems - 4 watertight bulkheads - adequate handholds for safety in a seaway rather than an open-plan design. It’s true that these boats are expensive (mine had three previous owners), but it is well supported by the factory, but not , as you say, a minimalist design. Thanks again for the interesting review Andrew (s/v Sueno Azul, SM#39)
@kwakaman555
@kwakaman555 3 жыл бұрын
GREAT POINTS MADE! Simplicity of upkeep is important too...
@bespokefit
@bespokefit 3 жыл бұрын
I really loved this video. It sort of reinforced my pre-cruising approach. Right now, I'm working on my own house renovations and doing almost all the work on both of my cars mechanically. I'm pushing the boundaries on my own competence and forcing myself to dive head first into projects I've not done. Watching Brian on Delos all these years has made me realize the value in being your own mechanic, refrigeration tech and shipwright. I aspire to walk in similar shoes.
@koborkutya7338
@koborkutya7338 2 жыл бұрын
Good point - it actually takes more determination to do this on land bc on the sea you have no choice. Inspiring, will attempt something similar. Thanks.
@JoeB1207
@JoeB1207 10 ай бұрын
Techs do all of this electrical repair. Jump in. My dad taught me most of it. Just have to learn a little more about refrigeration.
@svoceanrhythms1209
@svoceanrhythms1209 2 жыл бұрын
You're 100% right about Brian and the Amel. The guy can fix, or has fixed everything on that Delos, and added some pretty crazy stuff since this video aired. It's as if the boat speaks to him sometimes. It's pretty cool to see.
@andyp91
@andyp91 Жыл бұрын
Truly. DELOS continues to amaze. Sure Brian is an miracle worker in sailing, maintaining and repairing the yacht, but then when you look at all the toys and accommodations he has made on board it blows my mind ....every time you turn around they've got another water sport to play. This guy will be written up in the sailing books for decades to come.
@sailingpaloma3589
@sailingpaloma3589 3 жыл бұрын
Comparing Amel to Beneteau is like comparing Mercedes/BMW to Fiat/Chevrolet. There is no comparison at all. You will understand this if you sail long distance on both of these boat brands. They are completely different boats, built for completely different purpose.
@dimatchat1335
@dimatchat1335 3 жыл бұрын
More like a KIA than chevy
@HoseTheBeast
@HoseTheBeast 3 жыл бұрын
@@dimatchat1335 well modern chevy is shit so.
@KoDeMondo
@KoDeMondo Жыл бұрын
Indeed but they remain a plastic boat
@vorjay
@vorjay 10 ай бұрын
@@KoDeMondo you mean like 90+% of all sailboats since the 1970's?
@pl7868
@pl7868 2 ай бұрын
Well I would put my 1981 GMC 1/2 ton up against anything when it comes to built to last and easy to maintain , so your right there is no comparison , you can buy 1 GMC keep it for life had mine 44 years or try to fix a mercedes/bmw/fiat
@erinleblanc7038
@erinleblanc7038 3 жыл бұрын
Way to go Tim! 20K subscribers.....who new a few years ago when this all started. But been following EVERY week since then. So awesome!
@n33077
@n33077 3 жыл бұрын
It’s only complicated if you do not understand the systems. They are actually quite simple. As an owner they built to be serviceable anywhere in the the world. I can still get parts after 30 years. They are rugged. Most owners work on their boats. Henri’s philosophy was keep it simple, which they are, if you know what your looking at. The AMEL FORUM provides a robust base for repairs and the factory still provides all owners support. Innovations are a hallmark of AMEL. I think you should have done research before knocking the brand.
@koborkutya7338
@koborkutya7338 2 жыл бұрын
Don't know which video you looked at, I have not seen any knocking here. And Amels having multiple complex systems is not a question of opinion. Seeing it demanding or not is personal, has not much to do with research.
@johnlanghammusic
@johnlanghammusic 3 жыл бұрын
Nice look at Amel. I've enjoyed the history overviews you're doing. I love learning about why these boats are the way they are. Not that I'll ever be in the market for an Amel, but it's still cool to know.
@denniss9004
@denniss9004 3 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown as always showing the history of the boat along with function of the boat. I thought that was great insight of matching the type of boat to the captain. Watching these boat owners you really see some captains have much better mechanical skills and Brian surely does for sure.
@patrickjohn2990
@patrickjohn2990 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 20k. Great job on the Amel ( my favorite boat to buy if I win the lotto). I know that it’s a complicated boat but the quality of the components and parts are beyond any. They seem to have lots of backups and like you said unique systems.
@ketchingmy2ndwindsvchopsticks
@ketchingmy2ndwindsvchopsticks 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on hitting 20K subscribers 👏!!! Well doon on the series you are doing!! Very informative! 😎⛵
@silvanocometta9760
@silvanocometta9760 3 жыл бұрын
Hi there. Once Mr. Amel was face with a question from a customer during a factory visit. “why dont you put a small hook in the companionway stairs to attach the oilies when not needed?”. Amel in his typical arrogance replied: “if that hook was necessary, we would have installed it decades ago”. That reply to a potential buyer tells a lot about Amel. Best regards, Silvano
@robertw.1499
@robertw.1499 2 жыл бұрын
No, that’s typical French arrogance. I love the Amel 60, but if I was thinking of buying one and got that answer, well, they could stick their boat where the sun doesn’t shine…
@paulvr3158
@paulvr3158 3 жыл бұрын
...the ketch doesn't sail better when it's all set up, it just gives smaller pieces of canvass to handle, and two masts. So more Safety. (...and a ketch is more beautiful). I agree with your summary.
@davidhutchinson5233
@davidhutchinson5233 3 жыл бұрын
There are so many great sailing stories nowadays. I'm old enough to remember when the only stories you could get were in Sail and other like publications. So great to see it all happening now. Sailing Uma. Sailing Soulianis, The OKelly's.....Great channels. And your's sir.....just discovered and sub'd.
@Sailspirit99
@Sailspirit99 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 20K. Loving the new series. Fair winds.
@BillNataliesailingSvSkinnyDip
@BillNataliesailingSvSkinnyDip 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on hitting 20k. I can only hope some day we reach the same milestone. Well done!!!!! Keep up the Amazing work.
@mikeh720
@mikeh720 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 20K! This was another well done, professional pro/con + brand history lesson. Really enjoying the new "winter" episodes.
@jackbeale6135
@jackbeale6135 3 жыл бұрын
Great episode. Enjoyed your take on what seems so familiar as a long time Delos follower. You pretty much define "constructive" criticism, which always seems very fair and well thought out. Brian is definitely a special case when it comes to maintainence. I think Johan on Ran Sailing is the nearest to him. But putting 90 sea miles under the keel in 10 years is a great testament to Amel. Congrats on your first 20k, now let's work on the next 20.
@barrysimes1186
@barrysimes1186 3 жыл бұрын
Well done sir. Classy comments on Delos too.
@SirCharles12357
@SirCharles12357 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on hitting 20K! You've earned it! Keep on, Keeping on!
@crowdog56
@crowdog56 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful boats with lots of good stuff on them. Really love the older boats with that flame mahogany interior. If I were contemplating ocean sailing I'd have to seriously consider one. Thanks for all the good info on Amel, one of the best!
@craigc9975
@craigc9975 3 жыл бұрын
New subscriber here - I dig your perspective and how you convey it. You’re spot on about Brian and his Amel. It’s an intriguing relationship.
@KrisSanders
@KrisSanders 3 жыл бұрын
Cognrats on 20k. Awesome accomplishment!
@mz2288
@mz2288 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent review! Cool thing is there are many systems that have a manual backup if electronics fail. Also Amel I believe spend a whole week with you at sea to help get you familiarized with your new boat. From what I have seen Halberg Rassy is even more of a maintenance challenge technically than Amel. Would be great to compare standard jobs side by side. I think in addition to safety, Amel could shine even more if it would also be known for outstanding quality like a Toyota. This would give the brand an extra boost over many others. No doubt still an iconic brand, I just love some of the thinking behind many features. Thank you for sharing, stay safe n healthy!
@chrismalberg4883
@chrismalberg4883 3 жыл бұрын
Great review love your point about matching a captains technical ability to their choice of yacht. Could be a whole new discussion topic
@jackyotes3189
@jackyotes3189 3 жыл бұрын
Brian from Delos is maintenance genius. I sailed for 50 years but I am unable to deal with such a complicated systems. Lots of Love Capt. Jack
@TM-tw1py
@TM-tw1py 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely love your in depth analysis. Thank you!
@ianadkins471
@ianadkins471 3 жыл бұрын
I like your input on things. I wish you would cover trawlers 😝. Congrats on the 20k and good luck. You are on the right track.
@danknox9986
@danknox9986 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on 20K subscribers. Best wishes. Stay safe.
@francisdelacruz6439
@francisdelacruz6439 3 жыл бұрын
Hoping a better 2021 for this channel and everyone.
@Nuzzler9
@Nuzzler9 3 жыл бұрын
Missed discussing the safety features of the Amel which is the 5 waterproof bulkheads which make an Amel practically impossible to sink. It seems the a little trite to not mention the best parts of Amel.
@koborkutya7338
@koborkutya7338 3 жыл бұрын
That is a great video, really enjoyed :) Great thinking, i am fully with you. You won me for your channel with this.
@franksantos3418
@franksantos3418 2 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel. I am retired at 56 and looking to buy a Amel 54. I know very little about sailing and nothing about engineering. So I guess I’ll have a huge repair bill twice a year. But looking forward to my travels starting this Oct/Nov. Thanks Delos for getting me out of my comfort zone and selling everything I own except some clothes and my credit card.
@evinwhiteson4902
@evinwhiteson4902 9 ай бұрын
Hows it going? The 54 is amazing
@andyp91
@andyp91 Жыл бұрын
You're not kidding about the appearance of size inside. Having watched scores of LaVagabonde vids, when I stepped aboard at the Annapolis Boat Show recently it was kind of remarkable to think that all that went on in that space! I'm loving your channel by the way just discovered it a couple hours ago and I'm on my third. Thank you!
@donryan682
@donryan682 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on reaching 20K. Nicely done
@SteelDoesMyWill
@SteelDoesMyWill 3 жыл бұрын
I love Amel's for the build quality, functionality, and all of the features that are shared among models over the years. My 'preference' ends with the the Amel 54. Starting with the 55 and all newer models they have gone with cold, clinical, 'Ikea" type interiors that virtually all other European boat builders are doing as well. 'Bright' interiors seem to be in vogue over the traditional Mahogany, Teak, and similar varnished hardwood interiors that they now call 'dark caves'. I hate the IKEA look, I think the darker hardwoods far better represent the traditional or legacy hardwood interiors of yachting history. Too dark? Add some lighting, its that easy.
@johnhayford5946
@johnhayford5946 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Luke, I have one of the traditional boat interiors and yes it's like a dark cave and I hate it, I would really love a more modern interior, I just can't afford one. I have fitted very bright lights but the dark wood just make it feel small. I have even gone to the expense of recovering all the sift furnishings with light grey coverings, better but the dark wood dominates. So sorry, from years with dark wood, I do not agree with you, give me light.
@SteelDoesMyWill
@SteelDoesMyWill 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnhayford5946 my post was more in favor of the dark, traditional wood interiors. To each his own... There re some creative ways to brighten up an interior that are very cost effective. What boat do you have?
@johnhayford5946
@johnhayford5946 3 жыл бұрын
@@SteelDoesMyWill Waquiez 41, brighter than usual as a proper deck Salon, we used to own a Cat so a view was essential.
@richardrichard508
@richardrichard508 3 жыл бұрын
All fashions go round
@donaldvanvliet9039
@donaldvanvliet9039 3 жыл бұрын
I hate people who think all modern design is the same as ikea design...ikea produces cheap imitations of modern design, not the other way around.
@mikephillips9311
@mikephillips9311 4 ай бұрын
All the electric winches and furlers can be operated manually if they pack up. Thats part of the amel brilliance. Carry a replacement motor for a winch and one for the furler and you're set. Operate manually untill you can replace and then have another replacement sent ahead to a future port, no big deal. I used to tell Larry Pardy, when all the conveniences quit on my boat, "I'll be be just like you Larry" and still cruising, lol. You learn to fix stuff as you go, no big deal. You just need to realize & go with the foreknowledge that if you are going to cruise for 5 years or longer, everything on you boat (with the possible exception of a good diesel engine) will either break or wear out. Go with that knowledge, expect it, prepare for it and enjoy the journey. Otherwise either don't go or be prepared for alot of disappiontment!
@Arctodusangustidens
@Arctodusangustidens Жыл бұрын
I saw an Amel for the first time in the Chilean Fjords, the owners were a elder couple ready to jimp to New Zeland as the last leg of the around the world trip! Great sailboat! 💪🏼🥰🥰
@drwindsurf
@drwindsurf 3 жыл бұрын
Congratulations on reaching 20K subs 🥳👍
@qdav5
@qdav5 Жыл бұрын
Nice vid. Makes me want to binge watch all of the SV Delos episodes. Again.
@fk8marko774
@fk8marko774 Жыл бұрын
The Amel was my first boat I saw on KZbin and will always be my lotto win boat lol, but like you said it does have many moving parts and Brian is a wizard at repairing them all, it is an amazing boat that will always hold a special place for sure, I cant wait to see one in real life......being real though more of a Benetau person, hell even the Hunter 42 Passage that Jibsea is sailing is a fantastic boat, great video as usual Tim
@alanlovesmusic6442
@alanlovesmusic6442 3 жыл бұрын
20K! Nice! We can sell our house and buy an Amel but would not have any money left over for repairs!
@brianfedie8046
@brianfedie8046 3 жыл бұрын
I really do enjoy your content!
@ianmichaeltownsend6018
@ianmichaeltownsend6018 3 жыл бұрын
Hi. We were one of the Amels (a Super Maramu named Loca a Lola II) you parked beside in George Town, Exuma. There is certainly a requirement that the boat fit the cruising lifestyle one desires. If you can match these two up, then a used AMEL is pretty affordable. You get a lot more boat for the dollar than a similar sized Beneteau or other production boats. And they are generally better cared for. Also note that AMEL has been making 50s for a few years and now 60s, both sloops.
@TheSunseeker007
@TheSunseeker007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this inside !
@ilesfarms1314
@ilesfarms1314 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that you have found an interesting subject matter that I don't see much of on KZbin, "affordable sailboats and their history". Other channels have reviewed new million dollar plus cruisers that most of use cannot afford. However, many of us can afford the boats that you reviewed and I think that is what makes this so interesting for me. With that said, I would like to see a review on Tartan sailboats. Fantastic review and congrats on 20k subs!!
@mark224466
@mark224466 Жыл бұрын
Agreed and subscribed. Thanks
@pogonator1
@pogonator1 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like Armels are more the Citroën DS then Landrovers of boats. A lot of very clever solutions making sailing nice and comfortable. But you have to accept that it take 4 hours to disassemble and reassemble the rails of the directional headlights just to change the spark plugs 😉 😂
@richardboody6709
@richardboody6709 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and great story and super great music
@svamour4574
@svamour4574 2 жыл бұрын
Great job. Yes, Brian and Brady made it work - funny and fun.
@86config
@86config 3 жыл бұрын
Loving the series, NB. love the Renaissance blooper.
@tcobb775
@tcobb775 3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree with this review. I've recently purchased an Amel 54 having sailed both it and a SM2000. As an engineer, the complexity keeps me engaged. It may not be the best fit for everyone but we're fortunate that we have options.
@edfrawley4356
@edfrawley4356 3 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel this week and it is only the second sailing channel I have watched, the first being Sailing Parlay Revival. Having seen the amount of work Colin has put into maintaining his boat it would seem to be prudent to carry some spare parts. Seals, brushes, and even winch motors would be a good idea if one is going to be blue water cruising. None of those things are super difficult to change out provided one has a few basic tools along with the parts on hand. It really does not seem wise to go out cruising without a basic understanding of electricity or mechanics. Those subjects are as important as learning basic navigation or the rules of the road. Guess its time to sub your channel and go back and see what else I can learn.
@Bloodwealth
@Bloodwealth 3 жыл бұрын
well said Timmy!! as always love what you have to say
@downundertruckerusa4733
@downundertruckerusa4733 3 жыл бұрын
Like always outstanding video
@allanfifield8256
@allanfifield8256 3 жыл бұрын
1:25 Not a "renaissance fighter"; but a "resistance fighter".
@AllMyHobbies
@AllMyHobbies 3 жыл бұрын
Well said I don’t think the maintenance thing is a big deal though because the added comfort that boat provides I think Cant be overlooked and there are places to take stuff to get fixed if you have the money to buy that boat
@dennisfaust1442
@dennisfaust1442 2 жыл бұрын
The question I always ask myself looking at these boats, what do I do if I'm alone and underway in heavy seas? Crewmembers can get injured, are occupied with possibly small children, get seasick or otherwise incapacitated. Suddenly the "complexity" of all electric sailing with push-buttons at the helm sounds more like "simplicity". And for most essential systems like watermaker or the engine, the engineroom is a definite selling point. Having easy access to all the bits and pieces and be able to do actual work on them is invaluable.
@shanevillis4079
@shanevillis4079 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 20K subs mate.
@barbaralane9825
@barbaralane9825 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done.
@billbobby2646
@billbobby2646 3 жыл бұрын
Thank You, for the great explanation of a self-sacrificing beautiful human being after himself seeing the ugly destructiveness of human nature and overcoming his own personal handicap. The last generation before us were much more self-sacrificing than today's generation of instant gratification. And thank you for your great service to many who not who are not really understanding in the Boating Industry.
@joesamson8666
@joesamson8666 2 жыл бұрын
The new AMEL 60 is just a beauty and a beast (pun intended) on a category of its own!!! It's THE ULTIMATE sailboat!
@koborkutya7338
@koborkutya7338 2 жыл бұрын
BUT - a sloop. Departing from the heritage.
@JayBeBerg
@JayBeBerg 3 жыл бұрын
More complicated than other luxury cruising yachts? Seems pretty similar to an Oyster, Contest or Discovery to me.
@lungarotta
@lungarotta 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with all you said, yet... I used to be a Lyn and Larry fan, I own a small, sturdy, seaworthy boat... after 20 years I'm fed up of small boats!! Lyn and Larry were good at pointing out the downsides of big boats but avoided to tell the downsides of small boats (under 35 ft). I'm really annoyed with the lack of space, both for living and for storage. I cannot think how they could sail long passages in that small boat. All the available space in my boat is crammed with things and when I have to look for something I need I'ts a nightmare! No, give me an Amel!!! (:-) Well, let's be honest, it's all just a matter of money: if you want to sail comfortably you need a lot of money. When you are young you are more willing to face disconfort and sacrifice, but at older age you need to feel comfortable.
@allensuchy1639
@allensuchy1639 2 жыл бұрын
Had a C&C 31” Corvette years ago.. great boat.
@Bantie1
@Bantie1 3 жыл бұрын
You're not in this area I don't think, but I just read a news release that said a Japanese freighter just lost 1900 shipping containers overboard near Hawaii in the Pacific. They said the containers are drifting in all directions. Please notify any yachties you know of that are in the Pacific.
@petec9686
@petec9686 Жыл бұрын
Would like to hear your thoughts on Kraken? They kind of follow the Amel philosophy of building very high quality, heavy boats that are absolutely bombproof. None of that dual helm, dual rudder silliness that is awesome, until you hit a whale and rip one of the rudders off and sink.
@SerbanOprescu
@SerbanOprescu 3 жыл бұрын
Beneteau and Bavaria are not in the same market. Neither in the same price range. Both are so-called light cruisers and the pay is about half to two thirds to buy. Amel is a center cockpit, ocean-going heavy cruiser, and with a price that reflects it. By the way, I've seen a Halberg Rassy doing maintenance. ...Would you guess? It had all those motors you mentioned, plus other things. Oysters have hydraulics, and all of the have masts, booms, stays, shroud anchors, winches, winch motors, main motors, generators, batteries, etc. etc. etc., and all of them can fail.
@abdelhakimbenbachir3893
@abdelhakimbenbachir3893 3 жыл бұрын
Well done sir !
@GypzyJack
@GypzyJack 3 жыл бұрын
The answer to the "walk on by" scenario is simple if you are talking about Amel boats post Henri's passing; the new management have designed boats that are targeted at the up-market Med marina-hoppers...and just as expensive. Take the new 50 or 60, or even the older 55 & 64 for instance. There is no space for spares & workshop area, yet there's 3 double berths w/3 heads, with a master cabin that you could swing a giraffe in by the neck, & bugger all space for activity-based equipment/toys. The only blue water that they'll ever likely see is the Med and the Bay of Biscay. But hey, I would buy a 60 or 64 tomorrow if I could justify the price, plus the additional cost of a refit to convert it into a true world cruiser because I just love 'em, and I wouldn't want to have to do what Sailing Aquarius does, repairing winches etc on the cockpit table.
@sd3693
@sd3693 3 жыл бұрын
The thing about the Super Maramu is that it has a following, and doubly so due to Delos. If you're looking at buying a boat, and you love one with a following, there's probably one to be had for a LOT less that doesn't have a following. (Which is part of why I have a Hughes 40 -- no following.) Even within the same manufacturer, the dynamic can manifest: for example, the Allied Seawind has a following -- especially the Mark II -- but the larger Seabreeze and XL 42 don't, and can actually be cheaper than a Seawind in comparable condition.
@julianbatcheler9970
@julianbatcheler9970 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting review.
@ikbenhet1976
@ikbenhet1976 3 жыл бұрын
I would never compare an Amel to a Beneteau, and definitly not to a Bavaria... Amel is Premium/semi bespoke/small production (as BMW, Mercedes, Cadillac), Beneteau is mass production (as Toyota, Volkswagen) and Bavaria is budget caravan. Compare Amel to Hallberg Rassy, Contest, Southerly. Compare Beneteau to Jeanneau, Hanse, Elan. Compare Bavaria to your bathtub.
@JoeB1207
@JoeB1207 10 ай бұрын
Citroen to Beneteau.
@sailingyoumeandjosapea6770
@sailingyoumeandjosapea6770 Жыл бұрын
Iv been back to this opposite a few times now and for good reason every time I think I’ll sell up soon and get an Amel Sentorin just because I think it’s a bit less complex than the Super Maramu it’s still complex and to be honest every u tube channel where they own an Amel is of the owner doing an engineering repair of some sort so yes I think I’m leaning towards different boats . I love the way this channel helps us all deliberate this MADNESS that goes around in my mind anyway. It’s such a big decision right ! Once I’ve sold up done most of my money it’s too late to change my mind on the boat . I’ll need to go.
@Eznot2cme
@Eznot2cme 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats Tim
@stinkintoad
@stinkintoad 2 жыл бұрын
I saw an Amel like Delos in Kemah and I couldn't believe how big it was. Very beamy.
@richmeister1960
@richmeister1960 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you
@SV-DEDICATED
@SV-DEDICATED 3 жыл бұрын
Congrats on 20k.
@evilfluff6634
@evilfluff6634 3 жыл бұрын
I would not call it a Land Rover. Because land rovers are unreliable may call it the unimog or land cruiser or Jeep of the sailboat world.
@roycox3701
@roycox3701 3 жыл бұрын
lol did she call? Funny that in all the years of watching delos, the only bit that I saw Brian getting frustrated was about rolling, but you never see him using rocker stoppers or flopper stoppers .... anyway keep up the good work. How about a review of the Noordkapers? One of the manufacturers is making Skip Novacs new boat. There is a short video on youtube of a Noordkaper get together where they park on the flats, then get off and have a little party before the tide comes back. ;)
@mazinga702
@mazinga702 2 жыл бұрын
My dream boat is Amel 60! Guess our worlds are a little different!
@barkerk100
@barkerk100 3 жыл бұрын
I’d love to hear what you think of the Garcia range.
@henrymorloy
@henrymorloy Жыл бұрын
very correct comments and 100 percent agree with you
@robertlee8042
@robertlee8042 3 жыл бұрын
Beneteau v Amel? That’s crazy. I owned and lived on a Beneteau 461. A Beneteau is a Buick. An Amel is a Humvee.
@jordanspedowski9555
@jordanspedowski9555 3 жыл бұрын
HEY Tim, was great to see the breakdown, not sure if you got my message on your live chat yesterday. What is your opinion on the Macgregor 26 for the great lakes, and also the new Troublemaker 9500, that learning the lines posted the other day, would like more info on the boat, as there is not much on the web about it. Thanks Tim
@LadyKSailing
@LadyKSailing 3 жыл бұрын
Hey hey. Macgregor is love it or hate it I find. The people who own them seem to like them but I have never been on one sadly. There is one at my club however and I am really looking forward to doing an episode on them soon and hopefully sailing on it!
@wictimovgovonca320
@wictimovgovonca320 3 жыл бұрын
I think of the new Amels as push button sailing. It certainly has its place, but not for me. I would love to sail one just for the experience.
@pedroredondo3713
@pedroredondo3713 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Tim. I do share the same opinion in many aspects, being the automation one of those, however, as you also mentioned, those creature comforts make indeed cruising life more enjoyable (when everything is working fine). However, mentioning Amel and Beneteau in the same video, in the way you did, seems to me it doesn't make sense. They are produced for different markets, and therefore you are really compare apples and oranges which are not comparable. There are however, many other brands you could use instead like, Garcia, Oyster, Najad, etc. which in my perspective are playing in the same league. BTW... congrats on your great achievement of 20k subs.
@LadyKSailing
@LadyKSailing 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks. I put Bene and Amel in the same area because they cruise together in the same places by the same people. And Bene makes a great reference because everyone knows what it is.
@user-pz8uh7xj8b
@user-pz8uh7xj8b 11 ай бұрын
Its funny you say about the window in the bottom , i owned a Ex Hobart racing boat , called Phillips Foote Witchdoctor, it had that over the Prop
@rickkwitkoski1976
@rickkwitkoski1976 3 жыл бұрын
After having followed the DELOS saga... I have to disagree with you. Brian would be the PERFECT captain on ANY boat! His demeanor, his style, his cool headedness... Not much fazes him. Sure, the videos have the "saltier" stuff cut out. But look at some of the other characters... Brian is SO COOL! And Brady... such a wonderful complement to him when they were together. Thanks for this review. I am watching about a dozen sailing channels right now. I may SUB you, I may not.
@sailingseahawk2012
@sailingseahawk2012 2 жыл бұрын
Very very accurate assessment! Great boat but just to many systems for me
@edwardwerthner7717
@edwardwerthner7717 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@TheEdge92
@TheEdge92 Жыл бұрын
Nahh, the line of the 54 is just sick! Extremely sleek and super beautiful.
@kevincollaco1430
@kevincollaco1430 Жыл бұрын
AMEN... I love this discussion.
@JoeB1207
@JoeB1207 10 ай бұрын
Amel
@louisfbrooks
@louisfbrooks 3 жыл бұрын
Go small, go simple, go now sounds great. I do wonder if you would change your setup for Lady K now that you have taken her on a long cruise? What worked, what didn't?
@Bauchfalte
@Bauchfalte 3 жыл бұрын
I was lucky enough to sail serveral thousend miles with an Amel Supermaramu. And therefore I can say: "You are damned right with your opinion about this wonderful, perfekt and extraordinary outstanding ship".
@avancalledrupert5130
@avancalledrupert5130 3 жыл бұрын
I prefer ketches . Purely for looks . They just look nicer especially gaff rigged . Do one on sirias . That ds 40 is my favourite boat I have ever seen. It's a 40ft that dries out with the best layout ever . If had £600k I'd live on a ds 40. If had £6 Millon I'd still live on a ds 40. That things perfection. But maybe I'm biased . To me a fin keel is a useless boat . Pay at least £400 a month for a deep morning probably nowhere near where you want it . Then what go out sail around in circles and go back to the same man made dock . Can't explore on it . What you gonna do anchor a mile out and row in . Then drag your tender a mile down the beach because the tides gone out . Got to pay for a lift out to check anything . Just no fuck that I want to go into the unlimited free moorings nature provides for a bilge keel . Does my head in searching for a boat trying to filter all the fin keels 🙄.
@koborkutya7338
@koborkutya7338 2 жыл бұрын
I love the possibility of dry out. Fancied lifing keels or centerboard but am a bit taken aback by commens on their poor upwind performance. Tradeoffs. All the time.
@mystisith3984
@mystisith3984 3 жыл бұрын
Aesthetically (and budget wise lol) they are not my jam. But their owners sure seem happy with them and they seem to succeed in the test of time.
@susanl435
@susanl435 3 жыл бұрын
IMHO you do an excellent job researching a topic before you make your video (and that is why people love your channel). What are your thoughts on solid fiberglass versus balsa core fiberglass? Today, aren't some sailboats still made with solid fiberglass? Which companies still use solid fiberglass? Why?
@runemrick
@runemrick 3 жыл бұрын
I'm curious about what you think of the cockpit. To me, it seems larger, safer at sea, and more usable because of the helm placement. What are your thoughts?
@ryanmann3390
@ryanmann3390 3 жыл бұрын
Large, open cockpits are actually not as safe at sea. There are more ways to fall longer distances.
@Bauchfalte
@Bauchfalte 3 жыл бұрын
@@ryanmann3390 The safety of an fully protected Amel-Midschip-Cockpit is unbeatable.
@ryanmann3390
@ryanmann3390 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bauchfalte That’s fine. Go buy an Amel. You can beat anything. Everything is a trade off.
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