LAFD Engine 64: Van Fire/Rubbish Fire At Homeless Encampment

[@bobcallahan2274]

As a firefighter with cancer ... Wear your SCBA. All the time!!

[@wes5150.]

Good Man ! Thanks !

[@firefightingmailmansnypes5523]

Thank you Bob we started wearing SCBA on car fires in the early 1990s in my VFD other Dept. though we were crazy taking the extra time putting packs on. We will never know how many cases of cancer we prevented. Expensive PPE to leave on the rig.

[@michaelbriggs3069]

I was thinking that they need to look after them selves. I spent way to much time in Aircraft fuel Tanks with out breathing apparatus !!!!!

[@bobcallahan2274]

@Michael-David Smith Thank you very much.

[@daniels.5019]

agree 100%

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

Put your SCBA on guys, its safer.

[@tonyvaldepenas5603]

They don’t have to put it on because they are outside and when they are in a building fire they have to wear it

[@andyoxleyonhistravels]

@@tonyvaldepenas5603 You obviously dont understand the dangers at vehicle fires then.

[@benjaminsullins6811]

I just don’t understand why these guys never have scba on.

[@JM-fr3cd]

It's outside. Would you put on an oxygen bottle at a campfire?

[@gregh5787]

I don’t either. Car fires are very toxic and the smell stays on your gear and in your nose for days, even with an scba

[@bobcallahan2274]

@@JM-fr3cd As a 40--year firefighter with cancer it's just these types of fires where the carcinogens abound. If I had known 20 years ago what I know today about these fires I may not be in the situation I am today. The reality is that every fire we respond to has the potential to dump carcinogens as well as hydrogen cyanide, carbon monoxide and 100 other toxins, corrosives and poisons into our systems that can kill us now or kill us in 10 years.

[@azff]

I always wear my SCBA on vehicle fires. Pretty much everything that burns in a vehicle is toxic.

[@firefightingmailmansnypes5523]

@@JM-fr3cd it is not oxygen it's compressed air that we breath just filtered. Very toxic.

[@toddmarquand242]

Good thing that’s a non-toxic fire! SCBA folks.

[@chrisbarr1359]

There SOPs must suck. Either that or the Captain doesn't care about his guys.

[@robertborchert932]

Think about how routine this shit has become in Los Angeles. Think really hard. Thanks, Gavin Newsome. You're a real tool. Same goes for the shit we have representing the good people of Los Angeles. Look, folks. Your vote really matters. The captain and firefighters can read the smoke. No fuel in that derelict vehicle. They are all upwind. I know, SCBA is a good thing. I've spent many hours "sucking rubber" with a Scott apparatus. Yes, there is a time and place where it is proper.

[@justanotherguy1110]

@@robertborchert932 It doesn't matter if there's any fuel in the vehicle or not, you can see the thick, dark smoke so you know there's nasty petroleum products burning. I'm sure there's seats & other upholstery in the car burning regardless if it's abandoned or not. It's still producing all the other deadly toxins that are known to cause harm. It doesn't matter how "routine" it is or not. Cancer doesn't give a shit about routine or not. I would say just wear the damn mask..it's not that hard, but if they want to get lung cancer then that's on them I guess.

[@azff]

@@robertborchert932 Glad you're NOT my Captain.....🙄

[@jessefireguy]

The worst part is, that's a boot on the nozzle

[@Iamkpeezy99]

No one wants to be that “weird” smart do and be the only one with a scba on but in 5-10 years wondering why it had to be them to get cancer

[@erickaegi629]

Very true!

[@DrLumpyDMus]

Nice attempt at English language.

[@Iamkpeezy99]

@@DrLumpyDMus u must be one of them .

[@bobderp24]

I feel like I stepped on a used heroine needle just by looking at this place.

[@tmilesffl]

Just because someone is homeless doesn't mean they are a drug addict. In fact, most homeless people are NOT involved in drugs.

[@xXTR4IRSOF7]

@@tmilesffl In fact most homeless people have addiction or mental health issues. In many cases both. I have never been in a homeless camp that hasn't been littered with needles.

[@tmilesffl]

@@xXTR4IRSOF7 I have been in many homeless camps here where I live and very few have had a problem with drugs. One of my jobs is to pick up needles from the community and I rarely find them in the homeless encampments.

[@benjaminkeith8392]

miles okay daddy

[@DrLumpyDMus]

@@tmilesffl No you haven't, and no you don't.

[@wes5150.]

Why was the fire department called ?

[@corey6426]

When I see these fires happen to the homeless not only is it devastating for the person who is homeless.....I wonder if someone got tired of them being around..

[@mattmoschkau84]

In most cases these fires are the result of trying to get heat which is probably not the cause on this one or an eviction notice. The homeless community tends to deal with problems internally rather than getting outside help.

[@jimratliff2753]

What a damn disgrace to all of America to have things looking so bad and people having no pride, shame, care to live their lives better. We are a flipping mess. This is the real pandemic in the USA.

[@davebro2351]

Wouldn't be that way if we took better care of our homeless.

[@rgj5832]

@@davebro2351 what would you suggest they already get insane amounts of help? Most refuse to do anything to help themselves despite the ample amounts of assistance to do so. Us working people trying to feed our families are the ones that get nothing. Before you go on about how I don't know I am talking about let's just say I know about hard times and dealing with homeless.

[@washguy9577]

It is simply the side effect of one political party not having any checks and balances and this is true for both sides there needs to be a balance of different thinkers and ideas or like Detroit Chicago this happens.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

@@davebro2351 Homeless people don't pay taxes. I do. I'm paying for them. You want me to pay MORE tax dollars do they could work less?

[@megamilyon6111]

Should have let it burn for another 10-15 minutes.

[@ericweiler6571]

Encampment fires can be tricky with all the garbage. The fact there was a car fully involved didn't help either. The fire dept did a good job on this

[@aportman58]

I think I would have had to blow some embers onto some of the other trash piles!

[@Afroman29]

Before people start bashing the homeless or California, it is the government and an unfair economic system that caused this problem in the first place. If haters have nothing nice to say, don't say it at all. Good job to the firefighters in putting out this fire.

[@ffjsb]

Bullshit. Most of these people REFUSE to work, because the government gives them free shit, and they have NO pride in themselves. Idiots vote these corrupt politicians in over and over. And if you were a firefighter, you'd know the firefighters here were being stupid and lazy.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

"Unfair economic system"? Is that the system where I choose to work extra hard and pay a bunch of taxes to support the lifestyle of people who won't? Exactly what laws/regulations are keeping these people from getting a job? My local fast food places are paying $20/hr for unskilled teenagers to make fries and wash dishes.

[@scottcharney1091]

@@DrLumpyDMus Silly Randroid. A lot of these people are mentally/physically unable to work, and I'll bet you didn't know that a sizable portion of homeless people have jobs. That's why shelters aren't enough, since they have curfews and such that don't fit with work schedules.

[@mitchpurtill2530]

The worst fires to fight eith no SCBA ? Is that a Safety Officer ? I don't get it. You don't want to breathe that shit in.

[@Iamthathillbilly]

Way too much of it on here like this, just wear the damn thing! Our department here in Canada has us wearing scba for any fire AND co calls too.. we pull no punches when if comes to life and health

[@shawnc1016]

Why didn't they drive closer?

[@josephcastro9030]

The energy of the firefighters says it all, they dont care, they're annoyed, they dont want to be there, and honestly, I dont blame them.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

Bent, broken, unrideable, rusty bicycles are a required fixture of all homeless camps.

[@jimdavenport8020]

Lets cure Homelessness! BAN TENTS!!!

[@phoenixman8569]

Last summer a homeless guy set my appartment buildings bin on fire, why is it when some of them get high they set things on fire?????

[@enid0mom]

How often do they find human remains after putting one of these fires out? I saw the video where the fire extended into a building and causes a major fire. I am sure no one claims ownership of any of this stuff after the fire is out. Not that there is anything salvageable.

[@mattmoschkau84]

Bodies are a rare find. Homeless communities deal with problems internally so rather than an eviction notice you get a fire. When someone turns up dead it’s usually the same as any other murder... two people with some real issues between them. The big difference is police can’t really intervene, it’s frowned upon to talk to anyone about problems outside the community. Refer to the main reason people get their stuff burned if you wonder why they won’t talk.

[@Ottedikkie]

Van/ rubbish, or someone's home?

[@gregfox5842]

Where are the scba? Also use the hose as a fog

[@ronamatlow7716]

I'm glad 64 used foam on this fire, but they were idiots for not using their SCBAs given how much toxic smoke there was

[@jeffbecker9809]

Why dont the firefighters wear their scba when dealing with car fires ?

[@tmilesffl]

I am always amazed at how much junk homeless people amass. The tax payers are the ones who end up paying for the clean up.

[@ShakeNBake4200]

Great knock, but please wear your SCBA's.

[@dancingkitty11]

at 4:00 dude's bike is flaming!

[@2332boost]

Homeless encampment what a shock

[@erickaegi629]

Did those idiots ever think that someone may have tossed a hazardous material in that pile? And these are the best of LA's finest?

[@38NDY]

what are you talking about

[@Iamthathillbilly]

The whole fire is hazardous material when you set it on fire..

[@erickaegi629]

@@38NDY packs? Air paks?

[@erickaegi629]

No air paks? Great way to get lung problems in a real hurry!

[@erickaegi629]

@@38NDY no air paks?.

[@Grayarea321]

Clearing encampments one fire at a time........

[@lidsman2221]

What is the solution to this problem and what do the homeless want? Do they want to get out of their situation or are they happy being homeless?

[@jimdavenport8020]

Generally they fall into two categories: 1. The mentals including those who fried their brains on drugs/and/or alcohol. They can't be helped. 2. The dropouts that simply are unwilling to 'conform' and work for a living and have become accustomed to the lifestyle.

[@azff]

Jim is correct 👍

[@lidsman2221]

@@jimdavenport8020 Thank you and I agree!

[@lidsman2221]

@@azff Thank you and I agree!

[@aportman58]

No, they don't! They have it made and majority (if not all) elect to live in these conditions!

[@2332boost]

Third world arm pit cess pool ! I was in Haiti as part of medical deployment after the earthquake and looks no different 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@scottcharney1091]

You exaggerate.

[@2332boost]

@@scottcharney1091 have u been to a third world country?

[@scottcharney1091]

@@2332boost Arguably, yes, but nothing like Haiti. I saw lots and lots of photos and videos of Haiti after the earthquake, taken from people in the same locations as you, and it looked vastly worse than this alley in L.A. I went to panel discussions and events (and have had other interactions) with Haitian-Americans, and I would be extremely surprised if they likened this sort of thing to post-quake Haiti.

[@wipatriot510]

This is what parts of America have come to, a 3rd world country...

[@marcbach5880]

Coming to a community near you thanks to Biteme!

[@hosea1320]

How original! Did you stay up all night thinking that up?

[@ffjsb]

@Jeff Facts...

[@rgj5832]

It's already almost everywhere there is no escape this place is really going down hill!

[@scottcharney1091]

This has gradually been building for years, silly.

[@briannash9709]

Guess you don't need and SCBA in LA. Must of been one of those cars fires without toxic fumes.

[@fritzlanguish456]

Welcome to Newsom's California. Where every day is a dumpster fire.

[@trvman1]

The sate is a dump, thus dumpster fires.

[@scottcharney1091]

@@trvman1 CA is a victim of its own success, not to mention vile NIMBYism, but it still ranks very well in most standards of living compared with most GOP-run states.

[@inherentnature5938]

Why did we extinguish this?

[@mattmoschkau84]

Because California tends to be very dry and allowing any fire to burn can turn into a major catastrophe.

[@pinocircular9913]

Great video - nice audio on your equipment.

[@dunghua2730]

how to move and work too slowly ....

[@jimdavenport8020]

Let it BURN...might spread to the rest of the camp!

[@seydiatas7690]

Well and you don't clearly understand what emergency services are for. We don't care if they are homeless or on drugs or whatever we still help the people even idiots like you

[@enid0mom]

Did you happen to notice buildings even closer than any other plot? Even with the concrete wall, the radiant heat could damage or even set them on fire. That’s why he started next to the wall.

[@bfdoc327]

Clean cab initiatives this...

[@rd4660]

Whjy does Los Angeles allow this to happen. I mean the citizens, not the politicians? Why aren’t you people angry??

[@JS-zb1vv]

They are but the Democrat politicians allow it !!

[@scottcharney1091]

NIMBYism is a serious problem, among other things.

[@ml9867]

It's a good thing there weren't magnesium sparks!

[@DC-ih8bv]

Nozzleman .. needs a handy talkie.

[@chrisbarr1359]

He's a hard charger too!

[@DC-ih8bv]

@@chrisbarr1359 the boys are great but we switched to everyone having one instead of just the officer and chauffeur ..

[@derekblake9385]

Nice place, I was due a holiday

[@forestrymatters6066]

I never have been able to understand why most American FF dont pack up on fire scenes.... you arent as affective without air because you cant get as involved with the fire. Plus your breathing all the particles and vapour in.... doesnt make sense to me..

[@Brian13549]

What SCBA'S. Unreal

[@iLoveAnericanMuscle]

Is this really what LA looks like now? Jesus.

[@scottcharney1091]

Not most of it. Not even close.

[@Eman871999]

Put all those tents in there next time!🤙🏽

[@XHollisWood]

Great Catch 👍❤️🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒🚒

[@donbrinkman3874]

Let it burn!

[@vfdchauffer3606]

No SCBA's and stupid helmets, the situation is a disgrace to country. Cali, what great a place to live. Put a darn pack on.

[@CapeAnnImages]

How can any city, town or state allow places like that to exist? I hope LA cleans the area up after this!

[@Brian13549]

Don't bet on it

[@robertwells6724]

I think LA should change their name to Homelessville.

[@barbaraanderson8574]

Seriously should be wearing SCBA!

[@larryyearick4503]

This guy needs more training ffs put it out

[@timothyreed8417]

What do you suggest?

[@DrLumpyDMus]

He was probably busy studying English grammar and didn't get to fire science yet.

[@larryyearick4503]

@@DrLumpyDMus was that your home.

[@Iamthathillbilly]

And yet we have bleeding hearts around here that throw a fit when the city boots out these encampments, most of these people are there by their own bad choices anyways.. although somehow a ford Aerostar seems so fitting for this lol

[@ericweiler6571]

I couldn't agree more. And yes, the Aerostar made this complete. Leftist "progressives"-who are nothing close to being progressive piss and moan and promise to do something about the homeless but nothing ever gets done. In fact, it gets worse. When your city looks like a dump you are not doing anyone-even the homeless-any favors. Clean up your city and hold these people to the same standards the rest of us respect

[@DrLumpyDMus]

All of these people. Everyone defines their own position in life. We're all born wet and ugly. Some choose to never dry off.

[@davebro2351]

There is NO reason to use a straight stream at that close proximity. Does more damage and shoots burning shit everywhere. Poor firefighting in my opinion. And no SCBA as well. Unprofessional, laziness or ignorance...you choose...

[@ffjsb]

Everyone of them are guilty of the charges. Even a guy fresh out of the academy should know better.

[@ryanehlis426]

I say let it burn, let the fire clean up the place

[@heli-crewhgs5285]

What is it with Americans and their undone chinstraps?! Do they think that they’re in a John Wayne WW2 movie?

[@DrLumpyDMus]

Yes we do. Chicks dig undone chinstraps.

[@bmich281]

I didn't know people had 4k cameras in Burundi, Oh wait you say its California? Good on you Cali.

[@johndennis879]

What a fool not wearing his scba if I was his captain he would get confined to quarters for a month scrubbing pots n pans

[@johndemeen5575]

Certain political parties profit, from this misery! This is a democrat run state. The leaders of the state do not live anywhere near this mess. They live in gated and guarded community’s Thanks from, St. Paul Minnesota.

[@bmich281]

Your state is going down the crapper too. Indiana, here.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

St Paul Minnesota. No homeless people there, I'm sure.

[@johndemeen5575]

@@DrLumpyDMus I am not a liberal democrat. Not my problem.

[@scottcharney1091]

CA ranks much, much better in most quality-of-life measures than, for example, the Deep South. California is a victim of its own success (supply & demand), along with toxic NIMBYism. No, the Democrats are a neoliberal capitalist party that's inadequate to solve these kinds of problems, don't get me wrong, but this sort of thing is not an advertisement for the GOP!

[@barbannco]

sad.

[@chrisbarr1359]

See more and more homeless encampment fire across the fire the last 6 months.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

It's simple math. You see "more and more" camps, that's why you see more and more fires. ALL homeless camps burn. They are all set by the occupants.

[@ndz8578]

boys you look realllll interested in the fire.

[@DrLumpyDMus]

It's not a requirement to be "interested" in any of the thousands of fires you put out.

[@demariosreefaquarium7475]

No wearing any real ppe on God only knows what their breathing in.

[@derekritch4360]

At least it didn’t burn the shitter

[@Iamfirefighter55]

FIREFIGHTERS WELL DONE👍👍👍👍👍🚒

[@georgemendoza9489]

Fire department is bad asssss

[@daniels.5019]

SCBA! Get the fucking thing on

[@goofball3236]

well shit now there really homeless lol

[@doom112112]

Stopp fire cancer.......

[@radnerbearman4224]

I would put the Officer off suspended for not taking care of his men by making them wear their SCBA. Failure to Supervise. .for 25 years I wore mine even with a steel bottle and everyone on my crew did also. Its called taking care of your troops.

[@news603redux]

Silly hats and no mask? Yup, must be Cali.

[@rronmar]

Newsome Neighborhoods...

[@scottcharney1091]

This sort of thing has been developing for a long time.

[@georgecoons6872]

hippie gypsy fire.

[@pjreynoldsa1]

Isnt it best to just allow some fired to burn themselves out, or better yet spread to every other drug addicts encampment?

[@ericweiler6571]

There is absolutely no good reason why the homeless have all this shit lying around putting other people and homes in danger. Why in the hell do they have to have so much crap and garbage? I feel bad for the homeless but this is absurd and a lot of times they don't care if someone else gets hurt or worse. For a city to put up with this and not clean it up is the result of horrible government. I'm sorry that people are homeless but come on. Stop crowding our streets with your junk and clean up after yourself. We have a bad problem with homelessness up here too and there are constantly encampments burning. It's complete nonsense

[@DrLumpyDMus]

You're right. They should all just go home.

[@ericweiler6571]

@@DrLumpyDMus One of my best friends was homeless. Funny thing.. He lived in an RV and always kept his area clean. That is to say he didn't have a bunch of garbage all over the street and sidewalk. Your comment was lame bro

[@Benjaminb-gi7vk]

@@ericweiler6571 i bet he had a job too?

[@ericweiler6571]

@@DrLumpyDMus Uh huh. Or they can get a job and pay to live somewhere like the rest of us. Seriously... Why don't the bleeding hearts make room in their homes for the homeless??