LAGRANGE POINT- Happy Console Gamer

I take a look at the English translated Lagrange point RPG by Konami
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[@kenshirotakahashi]

I thought I'd tell you that this game is the result of a collaboration between Konami and the Japanese gaming magazine, Famimaga, short for Family Computer Magazine. This collab was called the Game Koubou. The magazine polled readers for input about various elements, including the title, plot details, monster designs, and even NPC dialogue. This development process was similar to that of Megaman Legends 3, except Lagrange Point was not cancelled. Also, Akio Dobashi and Noriyuki Takahashi, of the 80's Japanese rock band REBECCA, contributed to a couple of tracks for the game.

[@alees6419]

Aeon Genesis (Gideon Zhi) serious legend in the translation community. He translated Metal Max, that makes him a hero to me. Possibly my favourite rpg series of all time.Glad you gave him props, as a few channels playing fanslations don't :) good vid.

[@vonithipathachai8449]

Beat this game not too long ago. I really liked it. Pros: Large playable cast with their own strengths and weaknesses (whether it be in stats, equippable weapons, or skills), decent story, excellent music, nice enemy designs, entertaining/satisfying boss fights. Cons: High encounter rate, lots of grinding, weapon fusion is hard to take full advantage of without a guide. My score: 4 out of 5 stars.

[@riskvideos]

This is why I like this channel. You plug awesome things like this that I really want to try or buy.

[@Bluevirage]

When you said "Phantasy Star" you had me sold on playing this. I am totally putting this on my list of RPGs to play and beat for 2015. Thanks for the video on this awesome gem of a game!

[@JasonValentineFL]

Never even heard of this game. I would have absolutely loved this on my NES back in the day. Keep up the good work, love your videos.

[@xan1242]

Mang, those colors and graphics in that game are pretty darn good for Famicom! They're SMS class! VRC7 mapper is one a helluva chip.

[@ryanamberger]

And a big thumbs up for what you said about the people who take their personal time to translate these games for us to play. If any of you see this, thank you.

[@StevenMorris]

I'm a huge fan of this game-- I think the music is top notch. It gets a lot of attention in Japanese books/articles about video game music because of how unique and advanced it was for the Famicom/Famicom era. One thing I love about playing older games on the original hardware is getting to hear the sound being produced by the hardware!

[@Andrew_G4CH]

For when the VRC6 isn't good enough.. (Akumajo Densetsu (Castlevania III) & Esper Dream II)

[@Ponimaju]

Gotta love sci-fi RPGs. This definitely would have been awesome back in the day. I wonder what it would take to create a repro cart of this, given that there was a whole other sound chip required - if that chip is even able to be reproduced/emulated or even bought somewhere - in any event it would probably be a lot more expensive repro cart than most.

[@PhillipCummingsUSA]

You're always teaching us about something I've never heard of. Love it.

[@SuperHighTechGamer]

Looks great and still looks very playable. It's amazing how much potential was in the late 8-bit days. Sci-fi fantasy theme sounds very interesting. (Love how you can drive a car in the over-world) Nice!

[@IRahkuBz]

You know your day is going to be good , when you see a new video from HCG =D

[@Silvergun_Raven]

I've been a huge fan of Aeon Genesis for over 10 years. I'm glad that they finally translated Tactics Ogre, even though it's basically the PlayStation text. I'll definitely be checking this out! Also, the main character in Lagrange Point kinda reminds me of Mag Launcher, from Evolution:The World of Sacred Device.

[@MegaTrolleybus]

This just shows how Phantasy Star on Master System was ahead of it's time. Still this game is one of those forgotten gems. Too bad it never got a global release.

[@stevethefishdotnet]

Wow! Thank you for sharing! I've never heard of this game before. The premise sounds so incredibly cool.

[@RyuHayabusa06]

Konami was always doing things to enhance the sound in their games with the various MMC chips for the Famicom or Sound Cartridges for the MSX. Old School Konami was the best!

[@vargas4maggot]

Please please more of those videos, you got such an awesome oldschool-"insider" knowledge of early japanese-only rpgs!

[@ednardom.toledo9947]

What an interesting game, Johnny. Great story! Thanks for that. Keep up the great work!

[@DeathBivouac]

I bought a boxed copy of this game about a month ago off eBay. Was thinking about you while I was playing it (translated) on my Retron5; with all the Phantasy Star similarities, I knew it was only a matter of time before you made a video!

[@maximpact24]

Thank you Johnny for pointing out another lost gem on the Famicom. It really does make my day when I discover new things on the system that I love most. Cheers man. ^>^

[@BotzaBrand]

Thought I was still dreaming to wake up and see a HCG ZZ Top episode on this fine Sunday morning :)

[@thepirategamerboy12]

Oh my god, I'm so jealous of your Snatcher shirt...

[@brillopad6901]

Old school RPG's are / were the best!!

[@Sneakyturtleegg]

This game runs great on the NT Mini with the JB Firmware 1.8. The expansion audio is amazing!

[@mediaglitch]

Thanks for putting this on my radar.

[@EatingCtrlV]

I just finished up FF5 this weekend, playing my JP Cart on my retron 5 with the eng translation patch. This is how I played my Star Ocean cart too :D I'll look to get this game, it looks awesome! I love these old RPGs! Even more if I can play through them for the first time because I missed them when I was young.

[@milkwad]

That game looks really good whoa. Thanks I think I shall give it a download. you da man!

[@SeanBot3000]

Holy shit milkwad! I used to watch you all the time when you were nintendocentral! I didnt know you were still making videos.

[@just_a_saeu88]

love jrpgs so it's awesome to hear about this game!!! :) thanks

[@NefariousDreary]

This game looks cool! Right away the beginning of the story catches my interest. The vibe of it makes me think of Xenosaga.

[@xSS4x]

Aeon genesis is friggin awesome. So many great hidden gem translated. Been following his projects for so long. Glad hes getting some more exposure/recognition.

[@SpaceLanceFTW]

Looks cool. Your reaction to the game reminds me of my reaction to Radia Senki!

[@kirkht]

I like this definitely look forward to check this game out

[@Heffy_Boi]

Holy crap, the music sounds INCREDIBLE!! I just wish this special chip was more widely used.

[@battlestarnomore]

Playing Phantasy Star on Sgc, cause of your reviews. I'm having a blast.

[@RCrider185]

Thanks for the upload

[@dredgennikki2432]

I came across this game a few months back, and was disappointed when I saw that the translation wasn't being worked on anymore. I'm really glad that Aeon Genesis picked up on it again and finished it. I can't wait to play this later tonight. I would wait until a repro could be made, but I doubt one could be made, knowing that it uses a VRC7 chip. But that's fine.

[@mistyfreak]

Just bought this game! Can't wait to get it!

[@Vonwert35]

Thanks for the video. I would have never found out about this game.

[@derictorres]

If this is half as good as the first Phantasy Star, then it will be enough for me. Thanks for the video and translation link, Johnny.

[@kirkht]

tell me more about games like this in the future videos to come Johnny I would love hear about it

[@hussle]

Best show on KZbin

[@dave4shmups]

Great news about the translation! I wonder if there will be a reproduction cart released? That would rock, and being a Konami 8-bit game, I'd buy it!

[@Theitchnetwork]

It definitely looks good

[@BloodyEyeGamer]

I've never heard of Larange Point, looks like an awesome old-school RPG. Thanks for posting this Johnny, I'm going to track down the rom to give this a go. Hopefully someone will release this on a reproduction NES cartridge for purchase. I'd love to play this on my NES.

[@MrNorbert1994]

Then you need to make the sound expansion mod on your NES, but I think it is not likely that this will gonna go for NES carts, because making a VRC7 board is not that easy.

[@larrynintendo6838]

Awesome snatcher tee shirt!

[@MasterMS1123]

Speaking of Earthbound/Mother the combat screen of this game seemed very familiar to it.

[@mv0gel]

That seems to be a great game

[@supermahmoud]

The sound/music in this game is the nearest possible to be to an early Super Famicom game sounds !

[@strongestbyalittle]

Video on my birthday? Johnny, you shouldn't have!

[@mau5pilot854]

Hey, Happy Birthday!

[@dracompb966]

Cra- uhh, I mean Happy Birthday!!

[@rileytheflamingwookiecooki5646]

Happy Birthday! ( :

[@HappyConsoleGamer]

Happy Birthday!

[@DUFFYISBACK]

happy belated birthday bro

[@danielimperial1556]

Looks incredible for a NES RPG

[@rickonami]

Only Konami made these awesome games back in the days. The sound chip are made for both MSX and FAMICOM systems.

[@rickonami]

They used the YAMAHA chips.

[@FCEngine]

***** bro back in the 80's and 90's, Yamaha played a HUGE role in video games in the sound department with their FM Synthesis chips, which is found in: -Lagrange Point (of course) -MSX/MSX2 -Sega Mark III (Japanese Sega Master System, which Lagrange Point's chip is supposedly a variant) -Arcade games -Sega Genesis -Sharp X68000

[@OMGpandemic]

You're the best!

[@DRock7977]

I might give this game a try good music and PH inspirated is nice.

[@trulygg]

1991 was well over 20 years ago man. ;)

[@0111pokemon]

Deyaced Ylurt amazing how time flies

[@JONUTS-HC]

This game looks fun!

[@JONUTS-HC]

Btw, Nice shirt Johnny :)

[@TerdSmasher303]

Aeon Genesis is awesome, they got me into Super Robot Wars series cause of Alpha Gaiden

[@Branoden1187]

Wow that sounds like you're playing on the SNES.

[@OmegaWarrior]

That VRC7 chip is what's called a "Memory Mapper Chip" or MMC, and it's probably one of the main reasons why the game wasn't brought over to the west. This is one of the key differences between the Famicom and the NES: The Famicom hardware will allow the game cartridge to augment the sound chip, whereas the NES does not. Now in some cases they can work around this; for example the VRC6 chip that was used in Akumajo Densetsu was replaced by a mapper called the MM5 when it was brought over as Castlevania 3. The MM5 is essentially a VRC6 without the sound-enhancing components and the VRC7 is basically a VRC6 + 1 more sound channel. Like you said though, JRPGs weren't especially popular in the west at the time, and the work required to make it run on an NES probably couldn't be justified on Konami's end.

[@ChristianGiuseppe]

reminds me of the plot from "Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch"

[@gabrieleriva651]

Now playable on the Everdrive!!!

[@DragoonLagi]

if i have time, im going to try that rom sometime. :) it looks like a fun a game.

[@Gpalmer16]

Jake Cholka lol

[@ClassicContagious]

Another cool way to play it is on your Retron 5 with the recent addition of patching games. I would love to find a CIB copy for a decent price.

[@HappyConsoleGamer]

Yeah its expensive over 80.00!

[@craigyoung3994]

Man I was hoping for lasagne

[@jamesh446]

Just found a translated copy of this on eBay so I had to buy it, unfortunately I won’t be able to play it until my NT Mini arrives.

[@Riz2336]

Yeah I appreciate those people who do that stuff. A lot of games are playable for Americans because of that like Mother and Mother 3, Sweet Home ect. Looks like a great RPG. I might have to try that one out someday.

[@harrihaffi2713]

weapon fusion is freaking awesome!!! MVHH

[@CommodoreFan64]

I'm not a huge RPG fan, but this does look cool, and sense it's free I might give it a shot at some point.

[@StiffAftermath]

I cannot dump this game!!!!! Aggghrrrr!!

[@NiteJerk]

AeonGenesis also translated Ys V

[@PinballBrendan]

This is a longshot but... Does anyone have any save state files they could send me? I was playing this on an actual Famicom cart with a reprogrammed English eprom, but my save file got erased :( I was at the part where you first get to Center City after draining the waterway in Land 2. I'd like to try and continue via emulator from roughly where I left off...

[@PeteFiftyeight]

omg...your duke nukem!!!!!

[@doujindance]

FM sound chip installed in a cartrigde.

[@CamaradaHidalgo]

i really fear that persona 5 and any other megaten games dont't come to us.

[@mikejohnson699]

Does anyone know the memory size of the game?

[@retroguy74]

A haw, haw, haw, haw, a haw A haw, haw, haw Rumour spreadin' 'round In that Texas town About that shack outside La Grange. Sorry, it pops in my head any time I hear the word La Grange.

[@botbotnimodude8294]

Can you give me the build in English?

[@notyoursavior78]

Hmm I never heard of this one and I was checking out all kinds of old fan translated rpgs. I'll take a look at this one, I was recently trying out Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (Fire Emblem 4). for the Super Famicon.

[@xanderskullion]

I'm gonna be playing this on my Ouya! :)

[@HappyConsoleGamer]

I'll give you an Ouya!

[@xanderskullion]

just don't be busting though any walls! haha

[@christopherchurch6022]

What's an Ouya?

[@alfredocanas6802]

It's a shame the VRC7 chip/mapper was only used for this game.

[@MrNorbert1994]

Let me polietly say, that this game was a disaster to translate it. Almost every single fucking tileset has been compsressed in the ROM, so it needed a reverse enginnering, to recode the whole text compression method. No wonder that it needed almost 10 years to make this, but by the time this patch was released I knew every ins and outs of this game, because of a japanese dictionary.

[@MasterZebulin]

MrNorbert1994 Well, you actually did it, anyway. I am more than thankful and you should be VERY proud of yourself.

[@BakaFrom2013]

Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy meet Mass Effect

[@ryanamberger]

I'm surprised as much as your into Japanese things (anime,untranslated jrpg's, etc.) that you haven't learned Japanese.

[@WantedAngelina]

This game sounds like dead space O.O

[@SPac316]

I'll bet if this did get released over here, the soundtrack would have been redone because NOA wouldn't allow special microchips in their American carts. :/

[@Ruko]

This game looks really good, it's too bad the genre was that niche back then in the west for consoles. It's funny how you made a video about this game when i just found out about it trough this video right here kzbin.info/www/bejne/eXzIp3hjlLpnnZI It's part of a 6 part documentary about the history of videogame music from japan from the beginning right to the 32 bit era, if you haven't please check it out Johnny i'm sure you'll absolutely love it. You have the likes of Yuzo Koshiro (Streets of Rage) and Yoko Shimomura (Street fighter II) telling telling their stories.

[@-roejogan-]

Let's say I let somebody die. Their status is dying, how dyou fix that

[@CamaradaHidalgo]

yakuza.... plz sega bring us yakuza!

[@RCrider185]

There are 3 Yakuza games out on the PS3 and maybe the 360 too.

[@CosmicWolfPack]

Tim Beals He's probably talking about Yakuza 5 which got released in Japan earlier this year or a year ago i believe? But they won't release it in the states which makes me pretty sad too, i loved the series, especially the last game we got here in the states :(

[@CamaradaHidalgo]

yes this one, who look great and all, sega always do that, and now sha have atlus.... really scary

[@RCrider185]

Thx for the info, I enjoyed playing that series a lot, sad now I have to read up on a game I will probably never play lol.

[@Digitalforward]

hcg = instalike.

[@pedroabicalho]

Second!

[@infamouzKel]

First