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@TheFacilityonFS1
@TheFacilityonFS1 10 ай бұрын
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@Kenny49ERS
@Kenny49ERS 10 ай бұрын
Wins are a team stat
@NarTay-jc7vk
@NarTay-jc7vk 10 ай бұрын
If Lamar brings them down to the 1 yard line for 1st and goal, and the running back runs in for a TD . Lamar is responsible for that TD ..and that happen over 20 times ..do thay know the Ravens have over 25 rushing TD's that Lamar but them in position to get .oh because he didn't throw the TD it doesn't count.. is that what they saying?? Because I always thought it was about putting your team in a position to win..and right now Lamar has been the best at that .
@pmcfarlin7
@pmcfarlin7 10 ай бұрын
​@NarTay-jc7vk exactly lamar has so many stats taken away but hey a win is a win.
@EclecticEngineer604
@EclecticEngineer604 9 ай бұрын
@@NarTay-jc7vk great points , but yet again he got knocked out off the playoffs and Brock Purdy and the Niners are in the Super Bowl , at least he’ll get his second MVP though
@tCruzin4Lyfe
@tCruzin4Lyfe 10 ай бұрын
I love that Skip gets to sit back sometimes and let others argue 😂
@gerardbonner6464
@gerardbonner6464 10 ай бұрын
Yes me too lol. That forced yawn from Richard isn't working. You can tell he's sick as a dog
@osheaelnegrojackson3105
@osheaelnegrojackson3105 10 ай бұрын
🐐
@mreaux76
@mreaux76 10 ай бұрын
His facial expressions be so messy too😂
@treysmith5893
@treysmith5893 10 ай бұрын
Facts man my og be needing days like this, 😂😂
@alexandervelasquez5749
@alexandervelasquez5749 10 ай бұрын
It wasn't a forced yawn. It was A I gotta put up with these two other dumbbells.​@@gerardbonner6464
@jrad410
@jrad410 10 ай бұрын
MVP voting in NFL has been very flawed for years
@skillethead15
@skillethead15 10 ай бұрын
The MVP isn’t Lamar or Purdy. It’s McCaffrey then Myles Garrett. But sadly, it’s a QB award now.
@Remorsefullyhumble
@Remorsefullyhumble 10 ай бұрын
@@skillethead15well after last night it’s clear why a qb in a passing league going to win mvp .cmc isn’t even breaking 1800 rush yards ?what’s legendary ?niners loaded ?why is anyone surprised by cmc ?especially when he got nullified last night along with everyone else .
@jdajayi92
@jdajayi92 10 ай бұрын
As a Ravens fan I can acknowledge that it was be AWESOME if a CMC won it, so it's not a QB award. But if you actually WATCH the games , then you understand why Lamar is leading the convo. He gets his team down to the 2 yard line, then hands it off to a RB for the touchdown. He EASILY could have 30 touchdowns if he was selfish.
@jacobinmugatu3333
@jacobinmugatu3333 10 ай бұрын
@@Remorsefullyhumblehe’s going to easily break 2k from scrimmage though. He only needs 60 yards and he’ll easily do that next game.
@Colecaraballo93
@Colecaraballo93 10 ай бұрын
I’m a Raven so I lean with Lamar but I’ve been saying Garrett all season without him that browns defense is mediocre with him it’s amazing.
@studyrxyoutube
@studyrxyoutube 10 ай бұрын
5:18 😂 Keyshawn walking off
@videomynn
@videomynn 10 ай бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂. Idk how they ain’t lose character right there lmao
@baconthegreat4263
@baconthegreat4263 10 ай бұрын
I’m crying 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@musicworld9430
@musicworld9430 10 ай бұрын
I was crying 🤣🤣🤣
@ScottADunn
@ScottADunn 10 ай бұрын
Came to watch the video just to see that happen 😂
@studyrxyoutube
@studyrxyoutube 10 ай бұрын
@@videomynn I would have walked away. 😆 Sherman is a bit of a hater on this one.
@rell_5000
@rell_5000 10 ай бұрын
Lamar had a good game, his defense had a tremendous game.
@businessk7236
@businessk7236 10 ай бұрын
You know that everyone thought that Lamar would lose right? Lol
@Jordyrugby
@Jordyrugby 10 ай бұрын
@@businessk7236 Lamar’s playoffs stats: 1-3 record 56% comp 3 TDs 5 int 68.3 passer rating Thoughts?
@vsioljones2549
@vsioljones2549 10 ай бұрын
@@JordyrugbyMVP regular season award. But there is no argument for Lamar’s playoff record, that’s the only reason why he isn’t considered the best QB in the league. He’s a better player than burrow and hurts but they have the playoff resume and that’s why people considered them better.
@nickkorea5850
@nickkorea5850 10 ай бұрын
Missing Andrews, Keaton and JK
@nickkorea5850
@nickkorea5850 10 ай бұрын
what years was that?@@Jordyrugby
@GloryofGod-nk3pr
@GloryofGod-nk3pr 10 ай бұрын
Key really was looking at 6:03 like sherm you might have CTE my brotha😂😂😂
@b-moredeydey4109
@b-moredeydey4109 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@XxXxXBig
@XxXxXBig 10 ай бұрын
Time for Keshawn and rich to hit the field 1v1 😂
@Austicus100
@Austicus100 10 ай бұрын
We're going to make a petition
@notbobthebuilder3109
@notbobthebuilder3109 10 ай бұрын
Rich might win he knows how to beat on women 💀
@williambreeze2659
@williambreeze2659 10 ай бұрын
Let their hands do the talking 👊🏿
@elvonthe1
@elvonthe1 10 ай бұрын
Put Lamar On The Niners & Put Purdy On The Ravens.
@joshlewis575
@joshlewis575 10 ай бұрын
The niners would have a shot at going undefeated in that scenario. Lamar in Shanahans offense would be wild.
@Kingmase246
@Kingmase246 10 ай бұрын
Lol sorry they would actually lose in the divisional round.
@haywood0457
@haywood0457 10 ай бұрын
⁠@@joshlewis575Lamar on top of that run scheme. The 9ers would break the NFL rushing record, which was set by, you guessed, Lamar Jackson led Ravens in 2019.
@donovangarrett3506
@donovangarrett3506 10 ай бұрын
​@@Kingmase246actually I'm not sure the Ravens would make the playoffs with Purdy
@BlackRose-vi2yg
@BlackRose-vi2yg 10 ай бұрын
Lemar is so far a playoff bust
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 10 ай бұрын
The craziest part is the media doesn’t even talk about how Lamar has been playing without his starting RB JK dobbins for the whole year. Mark Andrews got injured 4 weeks ago and he is still 4-0 this season and 9-0 for his carrier without his #1 weapon and went to SF and destroyed the best team without his back up RB Mitchel. If this isn’t the definition of “MVP” then I don’t know what it is.
@yaboiahmon
@yaboiahmon 10 ай бұрын
Bro, This is FACTS. If kelce, diggs, tyreek hill, aj brown would go out the QBs would have an excuse from media oh they dont have they best weapons. Mark Andrews been out and the ravens have no real rbs. Lamar receiver flowers is the best Wr and he a rookie lmaooo. It's wild how he gets no credit for doing everything. Oh and he has to play better when his defense is having an off night bc sometimes they do.
@ifiwantoo
@ifiwantoo 10 ай бұрын
blew a 4q lead against the browns, might win mvp aint worth anything without postseason wins
@TJsStar
@TJsStar 10 ай бұрын
Lamar don't play defense and Baltimores defense won that game
@tefbloc9100
@tefbloc9100 10 ай бұрын
Preach… nd don’t forget he spanked the best team nd a top 5 defense at they own house
@allan2595
@allan2595 10 ай бұрын
acting like the defense wasn't the main reason ravens won the game lol. consistently gave the offense GREAT field position.
@edwinayuso2358
@edwinayuso2358 10 ай бұрын
Skip has the best and funniest face expressions and reactions. 🤣
@studyrxyoutube
@studyrxyoutube 10 ай бұрын
4:22 :Richard Sherman: preparing to hate on Lamar Jackson 😂
@shondaleblack9539
@shondaleblack9539 10 ай бұрын
The ravens had the hardest remaining schedule yet his play is increasingly getting better
@leomoneymaker8894
@leomoneymaker8894 10 ай бұрын
Defensive play is getting better and better.
@burny890
@burny890 10 ай бұрын
Lamar's play is getting worse and worse
@drb5003
@drb5003 10 ай бұрын
You can't tell the Media that because now they see that he's winning and smashing team in their mouths and the first thing they do is bring up his playoff record..😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@shondaleblack9539
@shondaleblack9539 10 ай бұрын
@@drb5003 fax they seem to have short memory with the ravens cuz they always hype up a opponent playing us and they get bounced
@burny890
@burny890 10 ай бұрын
@@drb5003 Lmfao it's objectively abysmal so they definitely should
@f58534
@f58534 10 ай бұрын
Lol. THE WAY HE WALKED OFF
@Quan1993
@Quan1993 10 ай бұрын
Ok Keyshawn, came to the table with major facts 🙌🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@STEALTTH7
@STEALTTH7 10 ай бұрын
He literally came with nothing of substance lol
@garylasseter2978
@garylasseter2978 10 ай бұрын
He literally had no rebuttal and admitted as such lol he was getting bagged so bad he walked off set lol
@marvinstokes4016
@marvinstokes4016 10 ай бұрын
I AGREE KEYSHAWN COOKED HIM HE GAVE STATS WE DIDNT KNOW HE GOT DEEPER THEN RICH RICH WAS SURFACE AND SIMPLE AND WAS STUDARRING THE WHOLE TIME HE GOT COOKED BAD!!!!!
@jimclaus1576
@jimclaus1576 10 ай бұрын
“Keyshawn came with facts!” Because he agrees with you? Lol No he just “came with” a moronic opinion and basically proved Richards point! “It ain’t all about the stats!” Lol THIS year apparently it’s not! WEIRD! One stat they might want to look into is Lamar’s fumble total! ;) For such an AMAZING runner he sure does fumble a lot! CMC has like 2-3 in almost 300 carries. Lol
@marvinstokes4016
@marvinstokes4016 10 ай бұрын
@jimclaus1576 NO I agree with him but a fact is something that can be proved everything he said was facts and ones the everyday fan didn't know Richard kept saying the same things we already knew and heard about past years THATS A FACT and he started studdaring when Keyshawn asked WHY THE VOTERS AND ODDS MAKERS ALL AGREE WITH HIM, CAUSE LAMAR IS CURRENTLY THE FRONT RUNNER IN EVERY ODDS MAKER THATS A FACT SO LIVE IN DELUSIONAL YOU SOUND MORONIC LISTEN TO YOURSELF
@coreysingleton3118
@coreysingleton3118 10 ай бұрын
When Richard says "so" or "if" you know what's about to follow is something disingenuous. He not even trynna be correct, he's trynna be right.
@bonkgiartist
@bonkgiartist 10 ай бұрын
Lamar Jackson’s impact goes beyond stats. The 49ers defense had to change up their whole defensive game plan if you watched carefully. And Lamar still got his.
@sora4440
@sora4440 10 ай бұрын
That's every team in the history of ever. You play QBs and other teams offenses different and prepare different. That's why teams game plan...
@lesterduncan2914
@lesterduncan2914 10 ай бұрын
Exactly!
@B18MONSTRO
@B18MONSTRO 10 ай бұрын
I agree but what sherm is trying to say is that B mores defense gave Lamar 5 more possessions with the ball and that makes drives down the field for points possible.
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 10 ай бұрын
That is true, but that argument also pertains to Josh Allen.
@normsayl6424
@normsayl6424 10 ай бұрын
​@@pipinghotarbys3079Josh Allen turn overs
@Lamar_G2006
@Lamar_G2006 10 ай бұрын
They going to fight one day 😂
@nijaytarver7331
@nijaytarver7331 10 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@6oweLA
@6oweLA 10 ай бұрын
You take Lamar off the ravens , we will stink !! You take Purdy off the niners , they may not be as good , but they will manage and still make the playoffs Now switch Lamar and switch Purdy 😤 MVP is the most valuable player for a winning team And Lamar and cmc have proven that
@brianwillis8447
@brianwillis8447 10 ай бұрын
That's what I've been saying and it has nothing to do with mvp, it's just the way Purdu has been anointed in the media. Lamar, Allen, Tua, Hurts, Lawrence and Burrow had to carry the load for some bad teams and still become elite before the teams moved on from them. Purdy came into a posh situation.
@shemtooturnt8641
@shemtooturnt8641 10 ай бұрын
Can’t base mvp off a if and coulda sworn y’all went farther in the playoffs with a backup then y’all ever have with Lamar lmao
@6oweLA
@6oweLA 10 ай бұрын
@@brianwillis8447 bro could you imagine any of those players you named in the niners right now Again not taking away from Purdy But Mondays game showed that theirs levels
@Indigo_drip
@Indigo_drip 10 ай бұрын
They win the the playoffs when he was gone half the season, and would of beaten the bengals in the wildcard match up ngl
@THEYCANTSTOPME
@THEYCANTSTOPME 10 ай бұрын
Manage? They made the bowl with so called worse QBs and haven’t made a bowl with him and his only excuse is he still young when Jimmy was in year 2 I believe when he made the bowl
@hanglolo14
@hanglolo14 10 ай бұрын
These 2 going back and forth is cinema🤣🤣🤣
@Kianthaking77
@Kianthaking77 10 ай бұрын
Richard Sherman big mad lmfao
@darelljones5757
@darelljones5757 10 ай бұрын
Hella Mad , Acting like he dropping FACTS !!
@fazeman4
@fazeman4 10 ай бұрын
What Cam said aged well now, huh? RS is livid now.....smh
@freakydub272
@freakydub272 10 ай бұрын
When Lamar steps on the field he’s the baddest mf’r on the planet! That is what separates him from purdy who is a valuable part of the team around him
@McB-gt3rl
@McB-gt3rl 10 ай бұрын
That is absolutely well said!
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 10 ай бұрын
Tell that to his playoff record 😂
@rogercraig1778
@rogercraig1778 10 ай бұрын
I disagree, he won’t be next week. Tyreek Hill will be
@garylasseter2978
@garylasseter2978 10 ай бұрын
Lamar has so many average games though. People don't understand there are other factors leading to Baltimores wins. A QB accounting for 24 touchdowns and 13 turnovers in 15 games will never be the main reason a team is 12-3 in today's NFL
@risen7602
@risen7602 10 ай бұрын
Yeah In the regular season
@jullionsua1126
@jullionsua1126 10 ай бұрын
This is what sport debate show is all about!! These guys are getting better and better!!
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 10 ай бұрын
Pretty much the folks that saying Lamar doesn’t deserve the MVP just want players who stat pad and not win. SF came in the game trying to be cute and get Purdy the MVP instead of trying to win the game. If Lamar was as a padder he would’ve had more TD if he wasn’t just handing out all those 3 yard TD Guss be getting.
@Clankem
@Clankem 10 ай бұрын
Tried to be cute? They outgained the ravens by like 90 yards. Ravens defenders were just in the right place at the right time to get tipped balls.
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 10 ай бұрын
@@Clankem “right play at the right time” 😂 maybe Purdy was throwing the wrong play to the wrong player
@tregainsfitness4928
@tregainsfitness4928 10 ай бұрын
​@@Clankem 4 accidental picks huh.. nobody else gets these excuses it's just pure bias at this point.
@MrTandkelder
@MrTandkelder 10 ай бұрын
​@IamDamian412 right places? Do you mean they studied tape?
@Arashi嵐
@Arashi嵐 10 ай бұрын
@@Clankem they outgained the ravens because the ravesn always had great field position and played prevent defense for 1 1/2 quarters. are you daf?
@kelvantebutler
@kelvantebutler 10 ай бұрын
Are we not going to acknowledge that Lamar drives his team to the 1 and then the Gus bus gets half the touchdowns?
@Han78711
@Han78711 10 ай бұрын
Kinds like purdy....cmac has 21 tds
@four5718
@four5718 10 ай бұрын
he could easily do it himself i mean he leads his team in rushing yards…but why not give it to my running back specializes in red zone situations…
@SRT8KASH
@SRT8KASH 10 ай бұрын
@@Han78711not at all… just like CMC took them down the field which led to his touchdown last night.
@prlysis
@prlysis 10 ай бұрын
Gus Edwards has 12 rushing TDs: 6 are from 1 yard out, 5 are from 2-4 yards, and 1 is from 7 yards. Lamar puts them in position to get those scores.
@Terrance919
@Terrance919 10 ай бұрын
Who put him in that position to score?
@mikenike1616
@mikenike1616 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn killed his argument and now he want to bring up some questionable percentage excuse. When the whole world watch Lamar Jackson last night and it jump out how important of player he is
@shondaleblack9539
@shondaleblack9539 10 ай бұрын
Also Lamar his mvp usage was just as high but they also had the 1 seed. Richard is not mentioning the many bad games Josh played or his turnover margin. Also he hasn’t even clinched a playoff spot. Be fr
@STEALTTH7
@STEALTTH7 10 ай бұрын
Josh Allen does this every game and is far outproducing Jackson.
@mikenike1616
@mikenike1616 10 ай бұрын
@@STEALTTH7 with 6 losses and some major turnovers interception games on prime time against teams like the jets
@jiggaman727
@jiggaman727 10 ай бұрын
@@STEALTTH7hes not producing more wins
@razor7sharp
@razor7sharp 10 ай бұрын
Stats don't show how he manages to escape from tons of sacks to complete alot of those passes. Stats just can't show what LJ8 does for his team. Win% matters especially when the man has won 80% of his games and has only ever lost ONCE to the nfc in 21 games.
@petergriffin1689
@petergriffin1689 10 ай бұрын
Lamar leads the Ravens down the field so many times just to give Gus Edwards a 1 yard TD run. Sherman's entire argument is basically that Lamar needs to run or pass those 1 yard TDs in himself to be the MVP, and that is just laughable to me. Lamar is not a stat padding QB, Lamar is a WINNER and has no problem handing off 1 yard TDs to someone like Gus Edwards who they call the Bus for a reason....thats the main reason Lamar's TD totals aren't as high as other QBs in the league atm...but his yards from passing and rushing combined are right up there with the best and he barely turns the ball over...Sherman is trying to argue the MVP from a black and white standpoint by only looking at statistics....Peyton Manning won an MVP when he had 49 TDs one year, Peyton also won an MVP another year when he only had 27 TDs...its not just about Touchdown statistics Sherm.....watch the game and you can see what an MVP is...
@realricky__
@realricky__ 10 ай бұрын
I love Lamar ALWAYS have and ALWAYS will but if he wins MVP this year it will literally be one of the worst statistical mvp seasons of all time lmaooo I think Tyreek or CMC deserves it imo
@Kingmase246
@Kingmase246 10 ай бұрын
Lol I would like you to do a little bit of research on that year lol.
@davwes8594
@davwes8594 10 ай бұрын
Baltimores oline tskes them down the field
@rjmarc1
@rjmarc1 10 ай бұрын
FACTS
@garysmithjr2166
@garysmithjr2166 10 ай бұрын
​@@realricky__no they should get OPOY because thats when stats come in. Bcus if mvp is given to a player based off of the definition of mvp then its LAMAR. Because what lamar does and how he impacts the game based off of presence alone and how the threat of him allows his WRs to get open cant be quantified by numbers. Which is why he is the mvp. U think cmc or hill stats cause for them to win an award then its OPOY. Lamar is the most valuable player to his team. He is far more valuable to his team then what hill or cmc us to theirs. Bcus hill aint play a few weeks ago and tua and the dolphins still put up numbers. So they can win without hill bcus even though we know hill is important to them the dolphins can win without him and the same goes for the 9ers abd cmc. The 9ers still have a great team if cmc goes out and they can still beat up on other teams. If lamar is not under center commanding that offense they might win 1 close game but thats it. So stop it. Lamars impact is def more valuable than anybody elses. No other QB is asked to shoulder the weight and carry the load that lamar is asked to carry. So yea lamar is the mvp. And im not even a ravens fan
@hunterhancock6752
@hunterhancock6752 10 ай бұрын
Also 49ers lead the league in YAC with like 3-4 players that will end up over 1000 yards. Makes a huge difference
@eternityecho-ug2fu
@eternityecho-ug2fu 10 ай бұрын
I've been saying it for over a week. Whoever wins monday night will be MVP. Congrats Lamar!
@amd1273
@amd1273 10 ай бұрын
You just heard that take on every other sports talk show. Don't act like you came up with that idea yourself
@flexwoods3959
@flexwoods3959 10 ай бұрын
What about ravens dolphins 😬
@Michael-jp2pl
@Michael-jp2pl 10 ай бұрын
I love Skip's reaction everytime a point is made "mmm"
@giovannibozzetto4997
@giovannibozzetto4997 10 ай бұрын
This was the best episode in a long time hahahahaha
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 10 ай бұрын
Lamar does more with less. A bunch of #2 and #3 receivers(Zay has potential) and always working with backs no one has heard of. The culture and coaching makes those guys great and Lamar just elevates everything.
@deathreaper-xw3sn
@deathreaper-xw3sn 10 ай бұрын
Not to mention all the drops, and constant injuries they fight through every year, it’s like they get the bug worse than anyone else
@davwes8594
@davwes8594 10 ай бұрын
He has a better te 3 wr better than buffalos number 2 and a way better oline with better coaching🤡🎉
@schwarzmann1
@schwarzmann1 10 ай бұрын
@@davwes8594 Interior of the O line is good but the tackles are not at least this season, Lamar makes the o line look better than it is because of his scrambling
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 10 ай бұрын
The glaze.
@eshankamarsu9555
@eshankamarsu9555 10 ай бұрын
Key and Sherm in this were hilarious
@faithinallthingsw4088
@faithinallthingsw4088 10 ай бұрын
Yes, like 2 brothers that need their dad to make them cone back together.
@ashyknuckles1
@ashyknuckles1 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn is a great analyst. Very opinionated and very passionate about football. Great blend of personalities. Solid TV right here.
@terrancemanuel4045
@terrancemanuel4045 10 ай бұрын
Way better than first take
@EbonynIvory83
@EbonynIvory83 10 ай бұрын
He is but he talks a lot 😅
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 10 ай бұрын
If Lamar was the Niners QB Sherman would be shouting from the roof tops that this is the best QB who’s ever played in the league. lol. So funny how bias works.
@rcud1
@rcud1 10 ай бұрын
Niners already had a guy like Lamar - Kapernick.
@LaArtsGuy
@LaArtsGuy 10 ай бұрын
Great love your intensity and passion Key Richard, big fan and Skip man do you wanna get in the middle of those two lol love your debate that was really great Congratulations to all three of you
@buck2icymonroe888
@buck2icymonroe888 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn got up to find a trash can to puke in. Richard comparing Josh Allen to Lamar Jackson made me sick to my stomach too🚮💯
@shoestringsam1982
@shoestringsam1982 10 ай бұрын
I know right! Lamar has only won one playoff game and has never been beyond the divisional round. Josh has won multiple playoff games and had the greatest playoff performance in the Super Bowl era until his defense let him down. There is no comparison. JA by a mile!
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 10 ай бұрын
​@shoestringsam1982 lol no doubt man. You think he'd be thrilled to be compared to Allen
@shoestringsam1982
@shoestringsam1982 10 ай бұрын
@@pipinghotarbys3079 I don’t think any professional athlete wants to be compared to another.
@pipinghotarbys3079
@pipinghotarbys3079 10 ай бұрын
@shoestringsam1982 I'd disagree with that. I think if you're comparing players with other greats from a previous Era, they wouldn't mind too much. Maybe you could make a place for same generation
@burny890
@burny890 10 ай бұрын
Lamar Jackson has never been to an AFC title game, has never had a playoff run where he threw more TDs than INTs. Wtf are you smoking bro?
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m
@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m 10 ай бұрын
I’d still give it to CMC. He was playing really well last night. Dude has been bringing it all year.
@grandlarsonie1152
@grandlarsonie1152 10 ай бұрын
Lamar was better
@terrancemanuel4045
@terrancemanuel4045 10 ай бұрын
He benefits from that oline...he was avg in carolina
@SirPiche
@SirPiche 10 ай бұрын
​@@terrancemanuel4045in 2019 CMC had 2400 scrimmage yards and 19 touchdowns. There is absolutely nothing average about that.
@mareksluka3713
@mareksluka3713 10 ай бұрын
Hey Richard I'm so sorry you had to get this verbal beating. Truly appreciate you. It ain't over yet. Hope miners gonna prove you right soon. Miners fan.
@Supastackman
@Supastackman 10 ай бұрын
😂😂
@TruckLifeWDandC
@TruckLifeWDandC 10 ай бұрын
Lamar is him and since college they have been counting him out but he continues to keep prospering
@theofficialgreenkane
@theofficialgreenkane 10 ай бұрын
Josh Allen 27 throwing TDs 13 Rushing TDs Leads the league in TD’s
@donmacmilly
@donmacmilly 10 ай бұрын
If he so valuable his team would have a better record.
@dropssky
@dropssky 10 ай бұрын
If you lead the league in turnovers you don't deserve MVP
@theofficialgreenkane
@theofficialgreenkane 10 ай бұрын
@@dropssky Check your stats
@steverose3157
@steverose3157 10 ай бұрын
@@dropssky Allen doesn't lead the league in turnovers. He only has 5 more turnovers than Jackson and SIXTEEN more tds.
@danielventura8118
@danielventura8118 10 ай бұрын
@@dropsskyhe doesn’t….
@Titanvol91
@Titanvol91 10 ай бұрын
Keyshaun gave solid facts about Purdy when trailing. It doesn't get more obvious than that as to see why he's no MVP. And Sherman is still crying about facts lol
@marvinstokes4016
@marvinstokes4016 10 ай бұрын
KEYSHAWN cooked him!!!!
@ducekong7878
@ducekong7878 10 ай бұрын
Facts over feelings
@marvinstokes4016
@marvinstokes4016 10 ай бұрын
YES AND KEYSHAWN GAVE ALL FACTS
@yaboiahmon
@yaboiahmon 10 ай бұрын
Sherman's argument for Lamar not being MVP is Lamar has not accounted for over 70% of TDs for the offense....This is a disingenous stat. If a QB throws 99 yards every drive and the RB run it 1 yard for the TD. Who does the most work to get the TD at the end? By Sherman logic, the QB in that situation would be trash and the RB would be MVP but that isn't the case in my opinion
@alexdewayne9392
@alexdewayne9392 10 ай бұрын
Simple logic
@williamgarling3322
@williamgarling3322 10 ай бұрын
Problem is that Lamar doesn't have the passing stats to account for what you are saying.
@yaboiahmon
@yaboiahmon 10 ай бұрын
@@williamgarling3322 If you add up his total yards running and passing he does. Oh and the Ravens offense have blown out 5 teams this year. Lamar doesn't play or push the ball down field in the 4th because they are up so much. So stats don't tell the full story at all.
@efistofelico3270
@efistofelico3270 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to say: You are wrong Sherman!!
@millzoday
@millzoday 10 ай бұрын
One day I'd like to see more players like offensive and defensive lineman besides the qb,wr, and rb. Others positions get overlooked but the linemen are so vital for a great team.
@BigBobBlazer
@BigBobBlazer 10 ай бұрын
I love you Richard Sherman. Speak some logic and facts into Keyshawn and the media hype/anti-hype.
@TheProphegy
@TheProphegy 10 ай бұрын
Give Lamar Deebo, Auyik, and Kittle and he’s going to have a combined 60 TDs on the season. Sherman has to think about what Lamar is working with. No Andrews. No Dobbins or Mitchell.
@cabalogia
@cabalogia 10 ай бұрын
You still need a very impressive stat sheet to win MVP. Usually that’s how it is.
@vsioljones2549
@vsioljones2549 10 ай бұрын
Don’t forget a HOF left tackle
@kingkroma2159
@kingkroma2159 10 ай бұрын
Cooper kupp got the Triple crown and didn’t get mvp if he didn’t get it I don’t see a non qb getting it
@its570Key
@its570Key 10 ай бұрын
Good point
@kgema89
@kgema89 10 ай бұрын
Key owned this segment ... Sherm also missing most the other tds is gus edwards from like the 1 after lamar got em there like lamar is intentionally tryna let his teammates shine ... this year the numbers have been suppressed so Key is right using the traditional formula is absurd
@nickgivens6378
@nickgivens6378 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn didn’t make an actual argument 😂 Richard gave hard statistics and facts, using past MVPs as examples. Y’all wanna give MVP to a guy who is middle in the pack in all QB stats? Make it make sense
@TheGrossMeta
@TheGrossMeta 10 ай бұрын
He "owned" the segment, that's why he walked away the moment Richard started speaking his mind?
@that_dudemr1286
@that_dudemr1286 10 ай бұрын
@@TheGrossMetacause it was a brain dead argument. Sherm is corny anyways
@garylasseter2978
@garylasseter2978 10 ай бұрын
​@@nickgivens6378It ain't worth it. The black community is absolutely obsessed with seeing Lamar get the MVP. He's going to be gifted it. It's absolutely wild some of the arguments I'm seeing for Lamar.
@burny890
@burny890 10 ай бұрын
@@garylasseter2978 It's making black NFL fans look really bad tbh
@jonathandutra4831
@jonathandutra4831 10 ай бұрын
CMC 100%
@themediocregamer5339
@themediocregamer5339 10 ай бұрын
If Lamar wins MVP it will prove the MVP award is just a favorite QB award. This award needs to go to CMC.
@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320
@chrisbreezy-ryanbarbosa4320 10 ай бұрын
Lamar just took down both Purdy and CMC who have a much stronger team and somehow thats your conclusion? Lamar does more with less. Youre prob a Niners fan
@PD-qu8dq
@PD-qu8dq 10 ай бұрын
Does The Fact that Purdy is playing so good with Weapons like Kittle deebo and Aiyuk, make it easier or harder for CMC? Does the fact CMC, Deebo and Kittle are so good make it easier or harder for Purdy? What did CMC do on the panthers when it was all up to him?…Lamar is used to carrying teams
@Doubleittwice
@Doubleittwice 10 ай бұрын
Skip is killingggggg me with the “ mhmms “ every 2 seconds 🤣🤣🤣
@mirjohn5726
@mirjohn5726 10 ай бұрын
Skip lowkey was snapping👀
@DarrinKirk
@DarrinKirk 10 ай бұрын
ON GOD 😂😂😂😂😂😂
@kennyjuarez6312
@kennyjuarez6312 10 ай бұрын
Mr. Sherman.... mad respects for you. 💯
@Messigoat1033
@Messigoat1033 10 ай бұрын
Josh Allen accounts for 83% of the offense but they struggling to make the playoffs? 🤔 Just cuz bradly Beal averaged 32 PPG in 2021 doesn’t mean he should win the MVP. Being efficient and having less TO matters.
@Han78711
@Han78711 10 ай бұрын
Beal??MVP?? WHAT?? LUKA.JOCIC,GIANNIS ,EMBID and 50 others better player.
@ZekeTheFreak
@ZekeTheFreak 10 ай бұрын
@@Han78711you missed the point
@ahmedegal6808
@ahmedegal6808 10 ай бұрын
they started winning when he stopped stat padding nd let his runners eat its funny tbh
@ahmedegal6808
@ahmedegal6808 10 ай бұрын
allen like russell westbrook
@ZekeTheFreak
@ZekeTheFreak 10 ай бұрын
@@ahmedegal6808 I like that comparison, he can wow you then he’ll make plays that make you just scratch your head like how could you do that?
@gankd504
@gankd504 10 ай бұрын
Lamar is the MVP💯
@marcusmaxwell9487
@marcusmaxwell9487 10 ай бұрын
Mr. Hill the MVP
@ajm.5160
@ajm.5160 10 ай бұрын
KEYSHAWN IS RIGHT MR. SHERMAN. OBJECTIVITY IS IMPORTANT. RESPECTFULLY.🙏🏾💯
@Flexican510
@Flexican510 10 ай бұрын
The last two games of the season should determine who is the MVP, whoever plays better out of McCaffrey and Lamar. Sherman won the Debate on this topic though
@dropssky
@dropssky 10 ай бұрын
McCaffrey is going to play the commanders while Lamar is going to be playing real teams too little too late it's Hill or Lamar now
@49ers9
@49ers9 10 ай бұрын
Brock. Lamar 👇 👇
@Frank-ui3gh
@Frank-ui3gh 10 ай бұрын
Lamar is gonna have like 4700 or 4800 total yards with 30+ TD’s when it’s said and done. Lamar has leveled up this year. Sherm stay having Purdy’s nuts in his mouth.
@sora4440
@sora4440 10 ай бұрын
He'd need to have over 500 yards of offense a game and 6 TDs in the last two games to hit that. Don't think that's happening...
@Frank-ui3gh
@Frank-ui3gh 10 ай бұрын
@@sora4440 Lamar has 4,145 yards 24 TD’s as of now. So he’s gonna have around 4800 totals yards with 30+ TDS. Idk why Sherm thinks Purdy has prime Payton manning numbers?? Sherm sounds ridiculous
@someguy9301
@someguy9301 10 ай бұрын
It's either Lamar or Josh Allen. Not Purdy.
@Kingmase246
@Kingmase246 10 ай бұрын
@@Frank-ui3gh In two games? against the dolphins and Steelers? God you guys love hyping up lamar.
@garylasseter2978
@garylasseter2978 10 ай бұрын
​@@Frank-ui3ghBecause he does lol
@bkbgbvhiuyu3856
@bkbgbvhiuyu3856 10 ай бұрын
Tell them sherman!!!
@FintalkQuint
@FintalkQuint 10 ай бұрын
I think Richard had some points but you got to give to it to Lamar right now it may change but he’s had the biggest impact as a QB consistently this season
@Nubiansage1
@Nubiansage1 10 ай бұрын
Lamar Jacksons team is 12 and 3 , with less talent on offense, because of injury etc. but still gets it done with less , he just wins. Stats is not everything, Winning is.
@salvadorperez9980
@salvadorperez9980 10 ай бұрын
Richard makes no sense sometimes 😅
@Supastackman
@Supastackman 10 ай бұрын
It was that Trent Williams slap😂
@Lsutiger300
@Lsutiger300 10 ай бұрын
​@@Supastackman"do it then boi: Bapppppp!!!!!!!
@jamesbowen5149
@jamesbowen5149 10 ай бұрын
What a show what a grown up debate two NFL capos going pound for pound no screaming just straight lace no chase what a show thanks to the New CREW.
@tamafaiga2938
@tamafaiga2938 10 ай бұрын
Richard Sherman is on point
@fredrickashton1465
@fredrickashton1465 10 ай бұрын
Lamar Jackson is the MVP! I'm not a Ravens fan
@Kaziamirr
@Kaziamirr 10 ай бұрын
Richard hate being wrong😂😂😂
@mrfiness
@mrfiness 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn is absolutely right!!! Don’t forget he won that game without his top receiving option and his starting rb and has beaten all the teams with the best records in the league
@Bradum
@Bradum 10 ай бұрын
Richard has a good point in saying that, while Lamar played great, most of the credit for Monday night's win goes to the defense. With that being said, going purely based on "percentage of TDs scored by the QB" is a pretty small brain perspective; it doesn't account for all the things Lamar is indirectly responsible for. If Edwards is able to run for a touchdown at the 3 yard line because the defense can't just key in on the RB in case Lamar takes it, Lamar isn't credited with the touchdown but his skillset and what he does allows for it to happen. This is why you typically see RBs have a lot of success on teams with running QBs, because the additional threat of the QB's ability to run helps it.
@AlexRH1991
@AlexRH1991 10 ай бұрын
Me being a niners fan Purdy played really bad but both QBs got delt with pressure. Both QB got sacked and did make mistakes Purdy did a lot more mistakes but lamar did also. Thats why I think MVP shouldn't go to either QBs
@drb5003
@drb5003 10 ай бұрын
Was you watching the game because what mistakes did LAMAR make?..He didn't throw an interception and didn't turn the ball over...Are you kidding me.🤡
@akierakeenaye1367
@akierakeenaye1367 10 ай бұрын
BS
@shawnl9755
@shawnl9755 10 ай бұрын
​@@drb5003didnt he run like 20 yard back into the inzone and get sacked
@AlexRH1991
@AlexRH1991 10 ай бұрын
@@drb5003 lamar got sacked and got a safty. Those are mistakes. He got sacked a couple times what game were you watching. They got the interceptions and some sacks on Purdy. They both made mistakes.
@carlfisher8996
@carlfisher8996 10 ай бұрын
Great job Keyshawn articulating Lamar's case!!!!
@jayboogie9611
@jayboogie9611 10 ай бұрын
I HEAR WHAT RICHARD SAYING BUT PLAYING THE NUMBERS GAME IS ANOTHER WAY OF NOT GIVING LAMAR HIS FLOWERS... HE STILL SALTY FROM LJ BEATING HIM AND HIS 49ERS 2019😂
@Fearless2033
@Fearless2033 10 ай бұрын
Great argument from Uncle Sherm 👏
@shondaleblack9539
@shondaleblack9539 10 ай бұрын
So Lamar in 2019 accounted for like 70 percent of their offense. This year it’s more balanced with three running backs and hella weapons so of course he’s not going to have all the tds especially with Gus Edwards having so many rushing TDS
@Devildog1979
@Devildog1979 10 ай бұрын
Sherman is exactly right in my opinion!!!
@votepeople3491
@votepeople3491 10 ай бұрын
I love my guy Rich S. Yawning! 😅 Sherman ate him up!
@eric.c.jackson
@eric.c.jackson 10 ай бұрын
Not sure I follow Key's argument. He's saying use the Eye Test for Lamar over Purdy. ..but if Tua beats Lamar, we're going by the Numbers or is it just who wins the head-to-head? Because Tua and Purdy are not better than Lamar. I knew that before they played. So the Numbers don't have anything to do with it. Lamar isn't better than Mahomes, but Patty isn't in the MVP discussion. Which criteria are we using?
@chem1282
@chem1282 10 ай бұрын
Thank you, Richard Sherman.
@justinamenta7241
@justinamenta7241 10 ай бұрын
Sherman just smoked keyshawn....
@AgainstTheRopesWithDos
@AgainstTheRopesWithDos 10 ай бұрын
Facts
@sethharmon1782
@sethharmon1782 10 ай бұрын
Truth Sherm Wensday still sounds good
@Zappy1210
@Zappy1210 10 ай бұрын
The MVP isn't about box score numbers. It is about the player that is the best player on the field week in and week out. The player that is the very reason a team wins the majority of their games. The player you could put on any team and he be a difference maker. That said. Lamar is that guy. CMC is that guy. Tyrek Hill is that guy. Josh Allen... there is a good argument for him, but there are a few other QBs that can do exactly what he does in his scheme.
@lildex1633
@lildex1633 10 ай бұрын
Great argument on both ends
@ptitusglover
@ptitusglover 10 ай бұрын
MVP voting is mainly about 3 things combined : team record, stats, and human element (perception, story lines, eye test etc.) Lamar leads in 2 of these 3 categories, team record by a game and human element as he played one of his best games against the “best” team and was by far the best player on the field while purdy played his worst game against the “second best” team. Voters can’t unsee that game. Cmac killed it but wasn’t better than Lamar yesterday either
@HANDOFTHEDRAGON1
@HANDOFTHEDRAGON1 10 ай бұрын
Richard bringing that Ivy League education to the table 🤣🤣Great job guys
@willhunter9584
@willhunter9584 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn had the grill on extra rotisserie 😂
@victoriuswashington8901
@victoriuswashington8901 10 ай бұрын
This time skip was a the instigator 😂
@Jaygonzo-dt6jh
@Jaygonzo-dt6jh 10 ай бұрын
Its appalling how Dak Prescott is out of the conversation for NFL MVP when his stats are near number one. I believe we can agree the Dallas Cowboys team hasn't flourished as much this year in comparison to the other top teams and support players.
@Titanvol91
@Titanvol91 10 ай бұрын
Purdy should have never been in the conversation in the first place. It's CMC if we're gonna say Lamar doesn't have the numbers. This has been my argument all season, no QB has a legit MVP season like Manning, Rodgers, Mahomes, Brady types they are in the 45-50 TD range. That's why it's been so up in the air to begin with. Purdy stats are all front running stats where everything is going perfect for SF and they're up by multiple possessions.
@elvonthe1
@elvonthe1 10 ай бұрын
Purdy Has The Most Weapons. His Yards Are Mainly From Quick Passes & Long Runs.
@akatzzki
@akatzzki 10 ай бұрын
This was amazing😭
@twilightgamer6561
@twilightgamer6561 10 ай бұрын
Get Richard outta their, he's hating on Lamar
@johnnyrotten9757
@johnnyrotten9757 10 ай бұрын
and that's his right if he wants too
@SUPERBLINDRHINO
@SUPERBLINDRHINO 10 ай бұрын
Sherman is absolutely right here. 5 turnovers and only winning by two touchdowns to me screams a lack of offensive efficiency from the ravens. It should have been significantly worse scorewise if he was that dude.
@Daboulraffs
@Daboulraffs 10 ай бұрын
Middle of the pack stats…the number 1 statistic a healthy Lamar holds is 12-3 best record in NFL….
@TheGIJoe69
@TheGIJoe69 10 ай бұрын
If they lose then they are tied with the record. Things can change any given week
@DennisKapatos
@DennisKapatos 10 ай бұрын
Love watching the Bills haters dance around why they can't consider Josh Allen for MVP 😂 Most total TD's by a mile, better TD to INT ratio than all but one QB, second in yards, and he's leading a huge comeback to push the Bull's into the playoffs after season ending injuries to Bills top 3 all-prp players on defense. Several losses were also due to fluke defense and special teams mistakes. He passes the eye test and, he's more responsible for the offense's success than any other player in the league, and he literally does this every year and gets snubbed every year.
@trevonelove305
@trevonelove305 10 ай бұрын
Keyshawn just Ate Richard Sherman Food 🔥💪💯✔️
@RealMisterMike
@RealMisterMike 10 ай бұрын
Lamar is the mvp
@MarcusTim0thy
@MarcusTim0thy 10 ай бұрын
Of course the defense made turnovers. But how many defensive turnovers were converted to TD? Zero! Lamar got them in red/ends zone 7 straight possessions Sherman needs to stop the bias
@JordanT3025
@JordanT3025 10 ай бұрын
Turnovers still took points off the niners board. They had 2 picks in the endzone and 3 other possessions taken away.
@derrickwalker7850
@derrickwalker7850 10 ай бұрын
Mike is killing me😂😂😂
@ThePuertoRican_Goat
@ThePuertoRican_Goat 10 ай бұрын
Its the body of work that Lamar displays this team is on his back
@julianrodriguez856
@julianrodriguez856 10 ай бұрын
2 TDs for Lamar is MVP play. 2 tds for Dak is okay play.
@wis-pakinc.872
@wis-pakinc.872 10 ай бұрын
Seen the ravens win with Tyler Huntley at QB and if it wasn't for a fluke fumble at the end of the game thats returned for a TD when the Ravens had the game pretty much in hand against the Bengals they would''ve won a playoff game without lamar.
@vsioljones2549
@vsioljones2549 10 ай бұрын
A lot of teams win with backups. We saw the dolphins with a backup almost win a playoff game against the bills. We talking football not tennis
@PD-qu8dq
@PD-qu8dq 10 ай бұрын
Does that say something about Lamar or about how Bad Lamar would have Beat Joe Burrow and the Bengals if he wasn’t hurt? Also, that should tell you how bad the OC was, Why wouldn’t you let your Running back run it in, instead of your Backup Quarterback?
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