Lambert & Ripley shmooze about Ash

This scene is an outtake.

[@Lord_of_The_World]

Every character played their part very well. Veronica Cartwright's performance was exceptional. Every time I watch this movie, and seeing her expressions, always gets to me

[@heavymike3248]

You are correct. Just the look really sold how terrified she was.

[@howardkerr8174]

@@heavymike3248 I think Veronica MIGHT have been able to pull off the Ripley role, but it would have meant working against type for her. In nearly every movie that she has been "featured" in, except for The Sound of Music, she falls apart at some point...she is a very good "every woman". Sigourney Weaver, On the other hand, starts out "ok" in this movie, but becomes stronger in each additional sequel. Ms Cartwright, had she had the lead, might have required a different type of character portrayal to keep the role of Ripley going for more than 1 movie.

[@slytherin3034]

@@howardkerr8174 She was not in The Sound of Music.

[@disgruntledpedant2755]

@@howardkerr8174 Wrong cartwright in SOM. Angela was the kendall jenner Veronica was the presurgery kylie jenner.

[@harpiyon]

@@howardkerr8174 Interesting comment. I heard that the producers initially offered Veronica both parts, Ripley & Lambert, and let her choose. After reading the script, she picked Lambert. It's crazy if you think about it: She was not interested in playing the protagonist & last survivor, but was fine with playing a side character who gets killed off before the end. Probably she thought Lambert was a more complex, more challenging part. And so the part of Ellen Ripley went to Sigourney Weaver. If Veronica had played Ripley, I don't know if there would've been any sequels. She's a terrific actress, but I don't see her carry a lead role in a franchise. Maybe she wouldn't even be interested in reprising her role, so this would be the only Alien movie we'd ever get to see.

[@jrgrimm6091]

People hate on Lambert but like she's right. Fuck this shit, let me go home

[@ZZZGGGLLLAAAHHH]

I've NEVER hated on Lambert. Veronica Cartwright has the uncanny ability to act absolutely scared out of her f'in mind in the most realistic way possible, which is how most people would react when confronted by this insanity. It's a fantastic performance.

[@jacksonmyers3187]

I think Cartwright was excellent. The only thing I ever hated on Lambert for was not getting out of Parker's line of fire.

[@ZZZGGGLLLAAAHHH]

@@jacksonmyers3187 That was annoying, but she was completely frozen with fear. And unfortunately, she got Parker killed because of it.

[@jakeg3733]

She's starting to put it together already. I don't remember this being in the final cut of the film, so chronology is difficult, but I get a strong feeling this took place shortly after Ripley laid out her plan and told Parker to calm down and STFU. She lets out a brief, disbelieving chuckle when Ash says he and Mother are "still collating" and while it probably never occurred to anyone Ash wasn't even _human_ Ripley definitely knows something is... off with him by this point. She's a natural leader with good discretion so she doesn't tell Lambert why she's asking this seemingly random, even absurd question. The writing in this film is so incredible. The things the crew members say and do, their reactions, so authentic

[@martinharris5017]

Always liked this scene. It illustrates that these guys lived in a world of isolation in space where one probably got physical comfort wherever one could find it. Sex in their world is pretty liberal and might be unusual for a crew member to abstain. It also shows that Ripley already suspected Ash was not just another crewmember but a corporate plant of some sort, reinforcing Dallas's comment that Ash was a recent replacement for a previous science officer.

[@APDaBaron]

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@martinharris5017]

@@Vapor_Man650 That's the point. Ash not sleeping with another crewmember added to Ripley's suspicions.

[@jakeg3733]

Alien is a case study in world building and subtlety. I mean, just that we can infer that from this seemingly bonkers question (given the circumstances) is amazing, and I agree with your assessment there. These folks spend years, even decades away from home. Human nature will never change, so it's likely everyone is banging everyone else. Having worked in high-stress, coed environments professionally for years my experience is that this is exactly how it goes. In fact, you had to put a lot of effort into abstaining, much more than to give in to the debauchery. And most of these folks were married or in "serious relationships", quotations because apparently they weren't all that serious

[@Cablecol]

This scene was not in the movie...it's a deleted scene.

[@martinharris5017]

@@Cablecol Correct.

[@jrag1000]

"Have you ever slept with ash?" "Because lemme tell you!"

[@Josh-fp2qn]

Ash got lots of milk.

[@marianoyuba3736]

Awww, about time someone comforted Lambert a little bit. She may get a bit hysterical or aggressive, but you can tell she's just terrified off her socks and clearly needs a hug.

[@johnborges5938]

But not a face-hugger.

[@HermitagePrepper]

In her profile revealed in aliens it states she has a legit anxiety disorder and was born with both male and female reproductive organs or something. She's a mess tho. In the original script she literally died of fright while hiding in a locker. The alien was in the same room but didnt detect her. There's lots of crazy dark stuff in the original Alien movie that was written out of the script because it was too macabre.

[@cdybft9050]

Sounds like a great candidate for a deep space mission

[@jtgd]

@@HermitagePrepper I mean I’d die of fright probably if I was trapped in a room with a xenomorph

[@7305Djwhatif]

That's her signature style 😅

[@amydamjanovic9183]

0:55 “Hey, just because you read something on a bathroom wall doesn’t mean it’s true!”

[@chrispeplinski7306]

A nice moment between ripley and Lambert

[@ursa41]

Oh yeah. That one about Ash REALLY THREW ME OFF! I could see why it was deleted...

[@conatcha]

Glad that this was not in the movie, even not in the extended version. This kills the tension between Ripley and Lambert, and makes Ripley the "favorite good" one that "deserves" to survive in the eyes of the audience. All the movie is about who is going to be killed next.

[@APDaBaron]

Thats bs it makes absolute sense and doesn't diminish the female characters.

[@th3azscorpio]

Eh, yes and no. Everyone deserved to survive honestly. Plus, this scene would have also humanized her character a lot more. Thankfully though, Aliens does this also.

[@angel91485]

nice analysis

[@conatcha]

@@APDaBaron Well, ask the director, genius. Maybe you think it is a good idea to insert a Kodak moment of the two women talking about having sex with their male workmates just after Dallas was killed and right before Ripley finds out they were just bait the company sent for the monster.

[@conatcha]

@@V_i_vi_an No kidding???? Really????

[@100domathon]

The scene makes sense, because Ripley is having suspicions about Ash and if he might be an android or someone else planted on the ship by the corporation. Lambert and Ripley have both had sex with the men on the ship. Ripley never slept with Ash so she is asking Lambert to investigate the suspicions about Ash more.

[@angel91485]

this was cut off for a reason, and that maybe it doesn't add up, that they're all asleep anyway during the journey each way, and maybe only awake when they work, so sex probably isn't much of the priority.

[@FischerFilmStudio]

I never understood why Ripley even wondered if this was a possibility.

[@Farlomous]

@M T I think it was more she suspected something was amiss with him. I have always wondered if the space crews knew about synthetics or if they were kept in the dark so that they could be placed on ships with out the crews ever getting wind of it.

[@jeffreytheretard3013]

She's suspecting that he's an Android

[@NR-rv8rz]

@@jeffreytheretard3013 No she isn't. It was clearly a massive shock to here when she finally found out he was an android. I think she was just suspecting he was a sinister figure.

[@APDaBaron]

Ya'll so nerdy. Every male on the ship has tried to fuck, or has fucked, except Ash? Whats up with him? We in the middle of space.

[@APDaBaron]

@@ronnieleedilljrWOLFMAN No because he isn't a HUMAN

[@jaymaniacMan]

Bret is the cutest of them all.

[@garlicmasterw2657]

@BoneYard right

[@o_manam]

Right

[@mitchelltheawesome1]

RIGHT

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

He was 50 years old by that time.

[@gaynzz6841]

Parker, what do you think? Your staff just follows you around and says "right". Just like a regular parrot.

[@goback3spaces]

Every outtake I've ever seen from any movie was worth taking out.

[@c99kfm]

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[@TheBob1901]

This scene was probably cut because back in 1979, they were leery about hinting about two women who slept with their male comrades on board a spaceship. Nowadays, that wouldn't be a big deal... although Ripley would probably have asked both Lambert AND Parker if either of them had slept with Ash!

[@JakubG]

Nowadays sucks balls you know

[@sbraypaynt]

I mean nowadays doesn’t all suck balls. Yes the legions of adult children with skewed views of justice on social media is a problem but love is love, what the fuck is wrong with a guy liking a guy.

[@Pirosbor]

The Lambert character is transsexual, interestingly lol only learnt that recently.

[@JonWilde2105]

There’s an argument that it would be hard to maintain a relationship outside the crew though. After they lift off, Lambert mentions that it will take Nostromo 10 months to return to Earth. Earlier they say they are only half way to earth. Even if a lot of that is down to fuel used to divert to and from the planet, it still implies a one way trip taking up to 20 months and a return trip over 3 years! Dallas says he did 5 previous trips with a science officer before Ash which sounds low unless trips take a long time. It’s not quite forever war territory but still implied to be not great work life balance. None of the crew mention any loved ones off ship I think. That said, in Aliens they say it will take 17 days for help to arrive, and Ripley later says it will take her 6 weeks to reach ‘the frontier’. So timings for journeys seem to be all whatever the plot requires. Either way, as you say it’s a scene that was never going to make it.

[@Ristopistox]

Hahahaha Ash and Parker!!!! Hahahaha

[@cleander180]

its appropriate; ripley suspects ash is not human or something strange so she asksthe ship's bike if she f'd him. if he dont fuk he aint human

[@HermitagePrepper]

Ships bike?

[@mcbrians.8508]

@@HermitagePrepper if my grandmother have wheels she would have been a bike. Bike is a British term for "Slut"

[@TomatoKing1817]

But it doesn't make sense. Did Lambert sleep with every other man on the ship to confirm they're human?

[@Wafaloo]

@@HermitagePrepper lol it’s similar to saying “the town bike,” meaning everyone has taken her for a ride, if you catch my drift

[@HermitagePrepper]

@@Wafaloo oh thanks...makes sense now.

[@desmonheck]

Veronica Cartwright at the beginning of Scary Movie 2 was awesome! She had me rolling! 😂She’s such a great actress! 🙌🏾

[@megachonker5664]

This scene totally fails the Bechdel Test

[@canadianjoker5033]

I can't believe there is such a thing.😐

[@medalgear654]

Whoever came up with the bechdel test needs to be tested.

[@7305Djwhatif]

Veronica Cartwright is nothing but a big old baby . She's one of the top 5 best crying actors.

[@alexbra9631]

❤

[@BonnChnd]

Victoria Cartwright. A child star and working actress.

[@MareShoop]

Who’s Victoria Cartwright? 😂😂😂

[@blairribeca5858]

@@MareShoop Her sister

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

I love so much Veronica Cartwright because she is most gorgeous and most feminine and also younger and sexier than Sigourney Weaver. Veronica is an extremely stunning and gracious classic and angelic european female beauty born in England with lovely and natural blonde hair and beautiful and sparkling blue eyes aswell. Another fascinating and mesmerizing famous and adorable blonde actresses from the entire world who i also love and admire so much are Farrah Fawcett, Carla Gravina, Faye Dunaway, Tanya Roberts, Cindy Pickett, Amanda Peterson, Lauren Holly, Teresa Gimpera, Kate Hansen, Elisabeth Gasper, Agyness Deyn and Taryn Power for example.

[@JakubG]

Jesus....

[@yusufyldrm3217]

@@JakubG :D

[@frankenweeny8785]

Holy crap dude get help

[@Cablecol]

Shut up🙄

[@matthewcrome]

This feels like it was written in ChatGPT by a non-native English speaker who was also pornbrained AF. Kinda like Ash.

[@Mrster]

@blackandgold51 Nope, it's Ash. Or, what do you mean? They say Ash.

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

Eu pensava que a Sigourney Weaver fosse outra pessoa no cinema e na vida real também, mas infelizmente ela não é. Nunca foi e jamais será. Lamentável, mas é a realidade. Doa a quem doer.

[@alittleweight3054]

porque? não entendi

[@DansChan995]

Wait...that's REALLY fucking random...maybe what do you know about Ash would be a start but whoa!!!

[@kblargh]

Where does it fit in the movie though? I mean, "asking us to kill each other one by one", what's she referring to?

[@RukudoSage69]

This is after "the shuttle wont take four" scene.

[@Desertduleler_88]

A regroup meeting just after Dallas got whacked.

[@JakubG]

Riley was about to conclude that since Ash is not a human, but syntetic, he can run after them... in space of course 😂

[@angel91485]

@@RukudoSage69 great point, though not consistent (this scene, not your opinion), as Ripley didnt want to take the shuttle anyway, and wants to still kill the alien. as it was said the shuttle wont take 4.

[@leegrabelsky2696]

Ohhh right it's about the ...Is he or isn't he a human...Well.. Still ok that didn't make it to the final cut

[@juicesorach3122]

Man,… I’ve had the hots for lambert since I’ve seen this movie. I can’t even explain it.

[@angel91485]

you know they said she's actually trans in the earlier script. not kidding, look it up. 😅

[@gaynzz6841]

@@angel91485 he swings that way

[@weekendjail1417]

I know the feeling. lol

[@MutantMike90]

Doesnt this violate the Bechdel test?

[@amydamjanovic9183]

Well, that’s a pretty random question. Were they having a “Who’s gonna f*** the science officer first” contest or something?

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

Oh, Meu Deus, eu daria tudo nesse mundo para jamais ter conhecido a Sigourney Weaver. Essa mulher é completamente louca e doente feito o próprio Dan Aykroyd também.

[@michaelcarvalhosilva1565]

@Tales of A Lonely City this woman is a curse in my life. And Dan Aykroyd aswell.

[@michaelcarvalhosilva1565]

@Tales of A Lonely City Peter Jackson is another horrible nightmare in my life. He also doesn't let me in peace anymore. Peter is so monstruous and hideous than Sigourney Weaver and Dan Aykroyd togheter.

[@michaelcarvalho1202]

Veronica Cartwright was so gorgeous as Lambert. She is most beautiful and most feminine than Sigourney Weaver.

[@househeadericmdhousehead9118]

Completely agree. She was the stand out as far as the quality of acting went. She represented the pure terror and hopelessness everyone felt but couldn't express. Veronica did not need to be glamoured up. Like you said there was a natural beauty to the vulnerability and high emotion her character represented. Her animal instinct to just take the shuttle and roll the dice showed she was much smarter about survival odds too. Ripley made careless error after error. Oh and Veronica's amazing eyes said it all. Such an underrated scene stealer.

[@HermitagePrepper]

Yeah she was very feminine and had a vulnerability to her that made her appealing

[@nathanmilsom9952]

But did she survive? No

[@geupelboi]

@@nathanmilsom9952 Well, she was the only one who survived the POD PEOPLE back in '78.

[@bernardstrauss1183]

@@househeadericmdhousehead9118 Kek, too bad that canonically she's a transexual.

[@carl_anderson9315]

Another scene that had to be removed. Don’t get me wrong, I understand the purpose of having a moment of empathy and understanding between the two female characters, but I feel it forced, and a “girl moment”. Ripley is a cold thinker. Feeling empathy all of the sudden only for Lambert, when Parker’s life is at risk too, is a little out of her character. And her question about her having sex with Ash was awful. The word sex isn’t mentioned once in the movie. They’re supposed to be professionals, not Rachel and Monica.

[@Kirbyoto2098]

Ripley asked because she's suspicious that Ash is a synth. The line also implies that casual sex among the crewmembers is common given Lambert's relatively flippant response.

[@kazzle_dazzle6]

i agree, it seems a bit forced. they probably thought it would bring some sort of life/earthly familiarity or maybe even humanity to the movie but ultimately it didn’t give what it needed to. ripley is a tough character and keeping her that way for the whole movie is really what set the tone, and keeping all of the characters the way they were. it just worked out really well, like when ripley was yelling at parker about the ventilation systems.

[@Pdmc-vu5gj]

I mean they are humans on long space voyages with needs. Military personnel have sex too.

[@awc7279]

No it makes sense if Ripley deeply suspects something is off with Ash, like he was non-human. In their world, android exists so it is not far-fetched.

[@carl_anderson9315]

@@awc7279 But it would imply Lambert had to get laid with all the men in the crew for her to get her suspicions confirmed if Ash was droid or not.

[@yakunohayashi9653]

Excuse me but I dont understand all the english language(i'm Japanese) what did they say?Anybody can help me ?

[@jesussavior6383]

its appropriate; ripley suspects ash is not human or something strange so she asksthe ship's bike if she f'd him. if he dont fuk he aint human

[@szaki]

Ripley asked Lambert, if she ever slept or had sex with Ash, because Ripley is suspecting Ash to be not human but synthetic, a robot , planted by the company on the ship?

[@JakubG]

Replying in English won't help you either lol

[@yusufyldrm3217]

@@JakubG no, it helps because most of people can read eng but cant talk or write. like me :D

[@Alexa-eo4tf]

@@JakubG i wonder if he still alive after 3 years though

[@damkayaker]

I don't remember this part. Why was Ripley asking about if Ash ever sleeping with Lambert? Just because she was the only other female onboard? And she was beginning to think he was an android?

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

This part was not in the movie. It was cut out.

[@angel91485]

because it is implied. the women had sex with the men

[@SimonFerocius]

This is not some dumb slasher movie, all the actor try to give their best....

[@constantinelheman]

And the hidden secret is...Lambert was a guy!

[@TatankaTaylor]

Fun Fact: Originally, Ripley and Lambert were supposed to be lovers. But they weren't lesbians. But instead, pansexuals. As a matter of fact, all the crew members were supposed to sleep with each other. There's even a scene with Ripley having sex with Ash. But in the end, they took out all that stuff. Since the censors were probably going to cause them too much trouble.

[@bielefeldundmehr2461]

A scene about Ripley having sex with Ash?

[@angel91485]

and may not be pertinent for this kind of crew, they're asleep along the way anyway, and only awake during work..and go backk to sleep again...so sex may not be a priority.

[@tgerard3860]

@@angel91485 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@angel91485]

this was cut out, as it seem, in the end, it wasn't necessary..they're asleep most of the way each way, so its unlikely they had time for sex anyway, when they're awake, they worked.

[@tgerard3860]

😂😂😂 there's a deleted scene where ripley takes off her top and straddles dallas. additionally, when ash tries to choke ripley, he does so in front of a wall with hung pages from porn mags.... lots of sex I'm afraid. lol

[@JizzyF83]

I don’t think Ash even has a reproductive system.

[@matthewcrome]

Scott has confirmed that he doesn't - that's why he shoves the porno magazine down her throat. He would outright rape her, but he can't... god this movie is even more disturbing than I originally thought

[@Ultraflashcode]

Hey Ripley! Remember that scene where Ashes tried to kill you by shoving a rolled up stack of documents right down ur fucking throat? Who could forget that? Well, that scene seems to have gone missing. Mighty peculiar, mama. I'm just sayin' #copyrightinfringement #doasthouwilt

[@SnowingAsh111]

I just found out that it was a porno magazine.

[@jrzygurl]

Wtf is this????

[@jrzygurl]

I have never ever seen this scene... okay that is a tongue twister but no joke😮..wtf... I'm glad it didn't make its way into the movie cuz it just looks like a couple of silly women crying over nonsense

[@jesussavior6383]

she f him ? no she said no ?

[@HermitagePrepper]

She said she nevet got the idea he was interested...in other words he never attempted to sleep with her...so no..

[@LAGERUNG3]

Robots dont get horny.

[@hammersmashedspud4345]

She was wondering what pronoun Ash went by

[@gaynzz6841]

they them

[@matthewcrome]

Well according to Scott he doesn't have a dick since he's a robot, but has a "human" libido (hence the scene where he metaphorically rapes Ripley with the porn magazine), so it's a valid question.

[@ReelGuyTv]

Seems way out of character. Ripley does not strike me as a person to waste time with such trivial questions in a moment of crisis.

[@justinboss6587]

In the Director’s cut version they had the scene, but they just showed Ripley and Lambert just staring at each other, and then Ripley just gets up and walks away. They don’t show the rest of the scene when they were talking.

[@danielbeltrami4568]

Sigourney Weaver mágica única asombrosa. La mejor por siempre,!

[@niacom8]

@OneScorchedSoul Yes, read the novelization, this is expanded.

[@NothingHumanisAlientoMe]

Quite a surprising amount of movie watcher in the comment section mentioning the Bechdel Test, is that a serious metric?

[@throckmorton3705]

i really felt like they should have kissed in that scene

[@Mattlovespuppys.]

Rizz

[@thealexprime]

nice

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

Veronica Cartwright who played Lambert in Alien is a very gorgeous and extremely talented and adorable blonde-haired and blue-eyed english film actress who always remind me a lot of the blonde and statuesque and extremely splendorous and admirable english film actress and fashion model Agyness Deyn who played Aphrodite, the loveliest greek goddes of love, beauty, sexiness and carnal pleasure and desire in the last remake of the classic cinematic epic Clash Of The Titans.

[@no-barknoonan1335]

I agree, but if you don't mind me asking, why do you put emphasis on her eye color and hair color?

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

@@no-barknoonan1335 just because i love gorgeous blonde women with beautiful blue eyes as the own Veronica and Agyness togheter aswell.

[@HAL--vf6cg]

It appears you're not being descriptive enough

[@LandersWorkshop]

@@no-barknoonan1335 Because he's a Latin / Mediterranean and they get emotional and wordy like that.

[@no-barknoonan1335]

@@LandersWorkshop That's my very own racial background, I get what you're saying and there's some truth to what you say, but I'm not convinced it's that and nothing more, but hey what do I know?

[@michaelcarvalhosilva6156]

A Sigourney Weaver não deixa mais ninguém no mundo viver em paz desde que se tornou famosa. Não só ela como o Dan Aykroyd também.

[@hunterwilder9665]

This film would never have passed the Bechdel test if this scene had been left in

[@empty5013]

you can't fail the bechdel test by having a scene like this. not that its a good test anyway, dated as all hell