Lambert W Function (No real solution???)

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Intellecta

Intellecta

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@GillesF31
@GillesF31 9 ай бұрын
It's never too late to do the right thing: I discovered in 2024 your video (3 years old) which is a very useful step to understand the right way to solve an equation which requires the use of Lambert W function. I notice the powerful mathematics tool we have to handle: the logarithms and their properties. THANK YOU VERY MUCH !!! 🙂
@edwinwelch1393
@edwinwelch1393 2 ай бұрын
I am very glad I found your channel. They should be teaching this at A level in the UK.
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
note: I meant the imaginary part, not the irrational. To practice the application of the Lambert W Function go to: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nqaboIuDe6mBh80 I hope you liked this short Lambert W functuon series. Feel free to write which topic would you like to see as next on my channel.
@elliottmanley5182
@elliottmanley5182 3 жыл бұрын
The analytic continuation of W(z). (Since it came up accidentally in this vid! And I can't find any other KZbinrs covering it.
@moeberry8226
@moeberry8226 3 жыл бұрын
You are the most gorgeous and elegant woman I have seen, honestly no woman has your beauty.
@elliottmanley5182
@elliottmanley5182 3 жыл бұрын
@@moeberry8226 well thank you
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
@@elliottmanley5182 😅
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
@@moeberry8226 Thank you for the kind words 🙂
@johnlinley2702
@johnlinley2702 Жыл бұрын
It's nice to see Lambert W Functions getting so much discussed on the Web. Could some one drop me a note as to why this is of such great interest now. Am I missing some new theory in Analysis or Statistics or whatever?
@jamesstrickland833
@jamesstrickland833 10 ай бұрын
someone (I think blackpenredpen) made a couple of viral videos using it and now everyone is hoping to have similar success.
@kolomun
@kolomun 8 ай бұрын
This was the best nap I've ever had :)
@alexanderturoczy7035
@alexanderturoczy7035 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, the route I took seemed a little faster: x^5 = 8^x x = 8 ^ (x/5) [ raise to 1/5 power ] x * 8 ^ (-x/5) = 1 xe^(rx) = 1 [ define r as -ln(8 ^ 1/5) = -3/5 ln 2 for ease ] rxe^(rx) = r rx = W(r) So finally x = W(r)/r where r = -3/5 ln 2
@timless5157
@timless5157 3 жыл бұрын
yes but r < -1/e how did you solve W(-ln(8) / 5) ?
@alexanderturoczy7035
@alexanderturoczy7035 3 жыл бұрын
@@timless5157 Y'know I never actually put this into a calculator. I believe the definition can be extended to be defined on complex numbers however
@vitorsg
@vitorsg 3 жыл бұрын
Complex numbers
@timless5157
@timless5157 3 жыл бұрын
@@vitorsg ok let's see the solution
@netritos7105
@netritos7105 4 ай бұрын
great video and amazing explanation. I was trying to practice this equation and thank god I found your channel. Thank you so much
@pythontron8710
@pythontron8710 Жыл бұрын
Cool video! One good tactic with equations of the from x^A = B^x where A and B are constants is to get the equation to the form: x^A * B^(-x) = 1 At this point you can always raise both sides to the 1/A power to get: x * B^(-x/A) = 1 Now change the base B to e: x * e^(-x/A * ln(B)) = 1 Now just multiple both sides by -ln(B) / A and you are ready to take the product log of both sides and solve for x.
@RUDYFERNANDOGONZALEZESCOBAR
@RUDYFERNANDOGONZALEZESCOBAR Жыл бұрын
Super like desde Guatemala
@bohharry
@bohharry Жыл бұрын
Wow thank you lady you made the explanation very very clear thanks a billion😀
@arbenkellici3808
@arbenkellici3808 Жыл бұрын
Well done! Keep it up! You are doing an excellent job!
@ProfeJulianMacias
@ProfeJulianMacias Жыл бұрын
I like your class...great
@iemtruongvan7316
@iemtruongvan7316 Жыл бұрын
Phương trình này vô nghiệm Đặt f(t) =te^t thì f'(t) = (1+t)e^t+(ln8)/5; khi đó lập bảng biến thiên hàm số sẽ cho ta giá trị cực tiểu cũng là giá trị nhỏ nhất là -1/e. Nên -1/e + (ln8)/5 >0. Vì vậy phương trình f(t)=0 vô nghiệm => phương trình đã cho vô nghiệm.
@ChavoMysterio
@ChavoMysterio 2 жыл бұрын
Which branch of mathematics is the Lambert W function is covered?
@sberacatalin2250
@sberacatalin2250 2 жыл бұрын
Interesant! Frumos! Technic! Next?! 👏👀👍🇦🇩🥇
@andrewshuttleworth5826
@andrewshuttleworth5826 3 жыл бұрын
I know it’s kinda nitpicky, but at the end you state the answer contains an irrational part, and while this is technically true, I think you were referring to the imaginary part. Despite this, very good stuff, easy to understand but still technically complicated.
@shrishantroy2494
@shrishantroy2494 3 жыл бұрын
Would you please consider making another video on how to find the value of Lambert W function? Amazing explanation in less time. Thanks a lot.
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Please watch this video from 2:00 min. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pIqaimNnpK1jsJo I hope that's what you are looking for.
@elliottmanley5182
@elliottmanley5182 3 жыл бұрын
In your first video you explained that the domain of W(x) is (-1,inf). As -ln(8)/5 is greater than - 1, there must be a real solution. Wolfram Alpha is incorrectly returning the -1 branch of W. If you calculate -ln(8)/5 and use the numerical value, it returns a real answer instead.
@elliottmanley5182
@elliottmanley5182 3 жыл бұрын
I was going to ask if you were going to talk about the analytic continuation of W(z). I wasn't expecting it to turn up here and by your expression, neither were you!
@elliottmanley5182
@elliottmanley5182 3 жыл бұрын
@@intellecta2686 oops! I muddled domain with range. Apologies. -ln(8)/5 < -1/e. I'm not sure what I did to get a real answer but it was wrong.
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
All good, it happens. Who works makes mistakes :)
@Ramkabharosa
@Ramkabharosa 2 ай бұрын
(∀x∈ℝ) [ (8˟ - x⁵) > 0.3636... ], so there is no real-root of the equation (8˟ = x⁵). The minimum value of (8˟ - x⁵) is achieved in the interval (-0.7, -0.5) near -0.59. Just draw the graph of (8˟ - x⁵) with a Desmos Graphing Calculator to see this. .
@LePhenixGD
@LePhenixGD 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much! Your video helped me a lot!
@edgareduardomatamorosizagu7291
@edgareduardomatamorosizagu7291 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful solution.
@steflabbe
@steflabbe 2 жыл бұрын
hi, how to find values a, b in x^a=b^x as the limit between R and C solutions ?
@michlop452
@michlop452 Жыл бұрын
I got a different result e^(-W(-ln(8)/5)) Are the two results equal? I don't know enough about the W to verify myself.
@MartinaHercegovka92
@MartinaHercegovka92 3 жыл бұрын
This helped me a lot, tnx!! Could you explain Fourier series and Fourier transform, please?
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
I will for sure in one of the following videos. Thanks for your suggestion.
@AngeloLaCruz
@AngeloLaCruz Жыл бұрын
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@kornelije23
@kornelije23 3 жыл бұрын
Perfect as always keep up the good work ❤️
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
I will, thank you 🙂
@zaferatasoy3095
@zaferatasoy3095 3 ай бұрын
thank you very much...🎉
@BSnicks
@BSnicks 3 жыл бұрын
Which calculator has a built in W(x) function?
@p4z9m
@p4z9m Жыл бұрын
Mathematica has productlog.
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
Wolfram Alpha
@lawrencejelsma8118
@lawrencejelsma8118 9 ай бұрын
​@@davidbrisbane7206... If you are using Wolfram Alpha then just look at 8^x - x^5 and Wolfram Alpha shows all zeros ... Then you need no
@rmw6151
@rmw6151 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this video - well explained! Perhaps your next topic could be Line Integrals?
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting suggestion, I will consider it for sure. Thank you for your reply!
@marcohk609
@marcohk609 3 күн бұрын
How calculate the function w of lambert to w(ln(8))/5)? If there'inst method , is bether input The function in The computar program.......
@SALogics
@SALogics 6 ай бұрын
Nice explanation ❤❤
@InfiniteLoveMeditationClub
@InfiniteLoveMeditationClub 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely explained 😊 Thanks 👍
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you :)
@davidbrisbane7206
@davidbrisbane7206 Жыл бұрын
Is this the principal value of x? There should be an infinite number of complex values x that satify this equation right?
@purim_sakamoto
@purim_sakamoto 3 жыл бұрын
W関数は楽しいですね😄👍
@differentboy7779
@differentboy7779 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks and too good👍👍👍
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@omarjette3859
@omarjette3859 7 ай бұрын
There is no real solution. The x^2 and 8^x curves are within 0.37 at x=-0.6, but do not crross.
@bezobrazie7607
@bezobrazie7607 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for u, its nice :)
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙂
@hayekianman
@hayekianman 8 ай бұрын
so why does x not have 5 roots?/solutions if it is x^5?
@meow2550
@meow2550 3 жыл бұрын
I need help x^2+8lnx=0 I'm stuck at 1=e^x^2 * x^8 and I have no idea. I need somehow divide by 4. please send help
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
I made a quick video for this, you can expect it in a few hours. Thank you for the idea :)
@meow2550
@meow2550 3 жыл бұрын
@@intellecta2686 thanks
@moeberry8226
@moeberry8226 3 жыл бұрын
meow your almost there, just take the 4th root of both side and then multiply both sides by 1/4 and then your good to go! Take the lambert on both sides and simplify.
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
I just learned about the W() function, and see you shouldn't have exponentiated the equation. Here's what I did: x^2 + 8*ln(x) = 0 x^2 + 4*ln(x^2) = 0 x' = -4*ln(x') [x' = x^2] 1/4 = (1/x')*ln(1/x') x"*ln(x") = 1/4 [x" = 1/x' = x^-2] ln(x^-2) = W(1/4) x = e^[-W(1/4)/2]
@georgesbv1
@georgesbv1 Жыл бұрын
@@oahuhawaii2141 simplifiable as x= 2*sqrt(W(1/4))
@DeepakKumar-yt6ol
@DeepakKumar-yt6ol Ай бұрын
How to find w(4)=?
@bdofficiallitonlife
@bdofficiallitonlife 10 ай бұрын
Good
@ferdinandrius6063
@ferdinandrius6063 10 ай бұрын
z = -5 W(n , - log 8 /5 )/ log 8 with n integer . Il y a d' autres solutions obtenues avec les racines cinquièmes complexes de l'unité .
@tbg-brawlstars
@tbg-brawlstars 2 жыл бұрын
Will not the answer just simply can't be written as e^{w[5/ln(8)]} ?
@gerar2158
@gerar2158 11 ай бұрын
Bella mujer
@brnico6184
@brnico6184 3 жыл бұрын
cool!
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@olusolaomolayo2687
@olusolaomolayo2687 11 ай бұрын
There is the need to know how to use calculator to determine or evaluate the value of Lambert W. Function.
@ynag1223
@ynag1223 10 ай бұрын
i have refused this problem at 6:20 why did you add (/w) ?😒
@rolandkaschek9722
@rolandkaschek9722 Жыл бұрын
How do you know this is the only solution? Maple gives 5 solutions as does Wolfram.
@billrandle4437
@billrandle4437 4 ай бұрын
This application of the W function is instructional. However an immediate solution by inspection is 5
@lukion27
@lukion27 4 ай бұрын
Not correct. 5^5 != 8^5, so 5 is not a solution.
@lapotajunior5072
@lapotajunior5072 Жыл бұрын
the first problem is so easy its like 2
@syedmdabid7191
@syedmdabid7191 Жыл бұрын
Imaginaire, Sic non non root REALIS, responsi
@diasao5618
@diasao5618 3 жыл бұрын
2^n=2n
@oahuhawaii2141
@oahuhawaii2141 Жыл бұрын
n = 1, 2 .
@Jack_Callcott_AU
@Jack_Callcott_AU 3 жыл бұрын
For the answer you said "irrational part", don't you mean imaginary part. Please explain!
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, of course, imaginary. Lapsus Linguae.
@Jack_Callcott_AU
@Jack_Callcott_AU 3 жыл бұрын
@@intellecta2686 I enjoy your videos on Lambert W function.Thanks!
@intellecta2686
@intellecta2686 3 жыл бұрын
I'm very glad to hear that, thank you very much.
@jorgecastillo1420
@jorgecastillo1420 Жыл бұрын
Yes the green board is not good ,or the chalk is not good
@duartetavares4397
@duartetavares4397 5 ай бұрын
Impossible to see the calculation on that board
@gerar2158
@gerar2158 11 ай бұрын
El resultado en un número complejo. Ella lo llama irracional que es otra cosa. “i” es imaginario, por tanto, complejo y no racional...
@alvarogerardoinsuasticamac5724
@alvarogerardoinsuasticamac5724 3 жыл бұрын
Creo que no tiene solución, corregirlo
@nelson101
@nelson101 Жыл бұрын
O giz Nao se Vê Bad visibility of scribe.
@segayanmx4442
@segayanmx4442 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! Pls change your green board to black board! What you are writing is not clear ! Very difficult to follow you!
@krazieecko
@krazieecko Жыл бұрын
The sound quality and tiny chalkboard makes this video close to unwatchable
@GFlCh
@GFlCh 7 ай бұрын
👍 💯 😀 " ≈ 2.207 - [Irrational part] " I expect you meant " ≈ 2.207 - [Imaginary part] " - ― £ $ € ฿ ± Σ Ω Π Δ µ ← ↑ → ↓ ^ √ ³√ ∞ * ≈ ≠ ≤ ≥ ÷ •
@vansf3433
@vansf3433 11 ай бұрын
That's not any correct solution, although you have followed all the steps of the notion of lambda function to end up with such an ambitious answer with the "i" or non-existent value Looking at this can help you understand the notion of imaginary or complex numbers was derived from the pitfall of human fundamental misunderstanding of number signs in human -invented defective notions of mathemstics 8 x 8 = 64, and -8 x -8 = also 64 ---> -8 x -8= 8 x 8 ---> -8 must be = 8, which obviously is nonsense No human mathematician cannot ever prove Negative x negative = positive to apply the nonsensical notion that taking a negative value to an even power will result in a positive value (-x)* (-x) = (-x)^2 = x^2 is nonsense x^2 - x +1 = 0 ---> x^2 - x = -1 X^2 is always non-negative, and x^2 -x = always non-negative or >=0 You can manipulate the equation to come up with (x-1/2)^2 +3/4 = O But (x-1/2)^2 is always positive, thus (x-1/2)^ +3/4 = 0 is never ever possible But you guys keep applying the nonsensical notion of imaginary or complex numbers to arrive such absurd and non-existent solutions with "i", which has been used as a sort of ambiguity to cover up human ignorance of their own invented notionscof mathemstics
@syedmdabid7191
@syedmdabid7191 Жыл бұрын
X^5=8^x, Aut 5lnx=x ln8, Aut lnx/x=ln8/5, Aut lnx e^_lnx= ln8/5 Aut--lnx e^--lnx= --ln8/5 Aut -- lnx=--Wn(--ln8/5) Vel x=e^--Wn( --ln8/5), Sed Wn negatif demonstrat value imaginaire. Sic non root value REALIS responsi.
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