In this test the holding weights are different. I can’t say for certain why that is. What I can say is that I didn’t touch the letoff settings. I can also say that, in the past, if I hit the back wall harder with this scale, I have increased holding weight. Is that what happened here? Maybe. I was paying more attention to making sure draw weight matched. I couldn’t have reduced the letoff poundage for the SystemX test anyway because it was set at the maximum.
@stevehall41307 сағат бұрын
I hopped on the comments to ask! U beat me to it with ur answer. Thanks for the transparency. Much appreciated!
@justins9654 сағат бұрын
Hey good job video producer! I loved the spray paint on the wall for the text. It looked legit. 😊
@richarddean315420 сағат бұрын
Great video - excellent effort at getting the bow set exactly the same with both strings. Really appreciate the detailed review and test. Lancaster Archery is top notch.
@mikefutrell42245 сағат бұрын
Great video PJ. The individuals who get on here and complain 200$ for 5 fps. Are new to bows or uneducated on how many people change out new stings for aftermarket strings only for preference much lees a gain in performance 🎯
@philliphays59233 сағат бұрын
They also don’t pay near $200 from a great builder.
@CryptoHuntinDad17 сағат бұрын
That's pretty badass for just strings. I mean you would never see 5 fps but atleast they are trying
@icr4bsi18 сағат бұрын
I'm currently finishing my current season on these ass cheek Mathews match strings(had to give fair chance) I was already use gas. So I'll be throwing these at the end of February
@RomeoWhisky77811 сағат бұрын
For me every feet’s it’s matter,usually I shot long distances and heavy arrows,so 5 feet’s Yes Sir!
@mattsmillie213118 сағат бұрын
It appears they also offer custom center serving size options according to the type of nock used. Some lighted nocks require a smaller diameter center serving for proper fit. IMO, that's a great option that you can select when ordering, but I'm not sure if other builders will do that or not.
@tsi-rocket414452 минут бұрын
I switched to gold tip nocks for my victory .204 arrows because the height of the nock on the strings is the same as a lot of the lighted knocks. I've also found the required center serving diameter is very close to the same with the gold tip nocks and lighted nocks I'm using. My last string builder wanted what nock I was using when I ordered the strings so the center serving was right for the nocks I use. Difference between gold tip nock and an aae IP4 or easton nock. Most custom builders will center serve to the diameter you want but you have to know what that diameter is. It was a lot easier for me to let the builder know what nock I use and let them figure out the diameter. The builder that asked what nock I use served the correct diameter so I either got lucky or they knew what they were doing.
@douglasrobertson497417 сағат бұрын
Great video. You took a very thoughtful approach to your review/testing.
@ny-co303919 сағат бұрын
I see a lot of complaining (as usual) in these comments - $200 is more than resonable for a top end set of strings and how cool is that new material to actually add that much speed! Thanks for the scientific test PJ. Nice to see archery moving forward every time I scroll through youtube
@philliphays59233 сағат бұрын
No it is not reasonable. You can get high quality strings made by a single dedicated builder for under $150. GAS is the Ultraview of the string game.
@Jf6812-e4j20 сағат бұрын
Did they lower the strand count? Did stability change?
@douglasmc659717 сағат бұрын
are the strings stretched and also the holding weight was higher then the stock
@matthewholmes863819 сағат бұрын
I wonder how this compared to Bloodline Vec99 and BCY X99?
@Farrlavator200217 сағат бұрын
if draw weight is the same why did the hold weight go up from 6.8lbs to 7.4lbs with the new GAS strings?
@6saturdaysaweekoutdoors16 сағат бұрын
I was wondering the same thing
@Ibelieveinfreedom16 сағат бұрын
Because is not!!!
@JW-bw8nj16 сағат бұрын
I'm assuming it's because the factory strings have more give to them
@jeremylandphier69216 сағат бұрын
More strands in the cables duh !
@WoodsandWater7215 сағат бұрын
He could've hit the back wall a bit more aggressively this changing the holding weight. I've tested that on mine as well to try and get the most accurate back tension "hold" as possible and it does in fact change based on how aggressively/smoothly you come off that valley. Not saying I know everything I'm Just putting my two cents in in case anyone has done or has had the same results based on random testing like I did. Could be wrong though! And for what it's worth, I friggin love the salt and pepper color
@wayneeden9819 сағат бұрын
That gas x is something to look into
@helmutfrey437525 минут бұрын
3 questions. Why no test with other gas bowstrings? What wheight difference have the strings? How many arrows can these system x handle?
@Milanv090821 сағат бұрын
How does it compare feel wise? (Compared to the regular high octane with all the color options) more vibration less vibration? More kick in the bow or is it more dead in the hand? Thats also a big reason to pick certain strings or not thats the feel it gives
@pjreilly399721 сағат бұрын
They felt great
@Milanv090821 сағат бұрын
@pjreilly3997 yes but whats the difference? Like i said more or less shock? More or less kick foreward that stuff
@pjreilly399721 сағат бұрын
@@Milanv0908 I would say I didn't notice a difference. For me, I don't want to notice the string when I release it. And that's how these felt.
@optimuscrime60819 сағат бұрын
GAS is a huge gimmick. They are great at marketing. Ask any quality string builder in the game, gas strings are just mass produced by high school kids now. They aren’t what they use to be. Find yourself a good, reputable one man show string builder. There’s a lot to choose from! GAS use to be one of these guys.
@pjreilly399718 сағат бұрын
So I was at their plant recently…..didn’t see any high school kids working when I was there.
@philliphays59233 сағат бұрын
They are the Ultraview of the string industry
@BassWhoopinFishingTeam21 сағат бұрын
They sound great but some of us like the custom color options. It’s a shame these only come in salt and pepper color.
@rockyowens220620 сағат бұрын
It’s weird the holding weight is more on the gas strings 🤔 like the let off was changed. Does changing the let off to a heavier let off speed the bow up??
@LuqmanHM20 сағат бұрын
Yes but 1lbs is not enough to change the speed
@davyjones92220 сағат бұрын
Yes. Under the right conditions lowering the let-off will increase speed. Ive had increases between 5-10fps dropping from 85% to 75%/65%
@pjreilly399720 сағат бұрын
So I didn’t change the letoff. You are correct the holding weight did change. I’ve found that holding weight on this LCA scale can go up if you hit the back wall hard, but that’s a guess as to what happened here. I can’t say that’s what happened for sure. I can only say I didn’t change the letoff……
@RG_outdoors28520 сағат бұрын
😅 $200 for a set of strings guess it's true a fool and his money is soon parted.
@douglasrobertson497417 сағат бұрын
Could the difference in holding weight be more back pressure from PJ while holding the scale?
@ericnewman97120 сағат бұрын
if the holding weight is correct, there is an increase in holding weight of 21.875%, which means the draw curve is not the same. So now we ask the question, is the stored energy the same. If it's not, then an increase in stored energy will increase velocity. .This is good for customers. Bad for manufactures haha
@YoureSoVane20 сағат бұрын
Most certainly. I wonder if they focused on hysteresis or some other variable of energy loss, like internal friction between fibers.
@jesusisalive322713 сағат бұрын
Holding weight depends on how hard he is pulling on the scale.
@YoureSoVane12 сағат бұрын
@@jesusisalive3227 No it does not. The scale records the lowest weight and the highest weight. Your minimum holding weight is the lowest weight on the draw cycle. You can pull 30# or more if you want and it won't change the readout for holding weight. I have the exact same scale and that's exactly how it works.
@jesusisalive322711 сағат бұрын
@@YoureSoVane So you can get the exact weight 10 times in a row? I really doubt that!
@YoureSoVane6 сағат бұрын
@@jesusisalive3227 Exact weight? No. But I can't change the holding weight by wrenching on the scale, either.
@shaneg853159 минут бұрын
Anywhere from 3 to 7fps maybe is what I've saw they said. That's now different than materials before. I'm sure it's the bcy 452xtra. All marketing to get a buy. I just thought it was funny how they said the string industry has been nothing for a long time. Idk when they dropped ghost it was the best and new a few years ago. It was just bcy 454.
@gsanning15 сағат бұрын
The holding weight was different. Why would this be, and what difference would this make on the speed?
@WayneStevenson-y6e16 сағат бұрын
Nah! I’ll stick with Joey’s Bowstrings! Best strings I’ve ever used!
@jedibowen21 сағат бұрын
$200 for roughly 5 fps. Pass. Maybe if changing strings to begin with, but still a tough sell.
@ThomasGail21 сағат бұрын
People sell strings for $200 or more that don't even give you 5 fps. And if you are replacing with strings that are cheaper, say $100-150, then you a only spending $50-100 more for 5 fps.
@C_H_U_20 сағат бұрын
@@ThomasGailSHHHHHHH he still thinks it’s $200 more for 5 fps LOL… This generations math ain’t mathing. JEZUZ CHROIST….
@alfonsyoichi104319 сағат бұрын
wow that expensive?
@rally682418 сағат бұрын
Your spending 130-170 for typical , my first string was 240. 200 is not bad.
@FullDrawOutdoors17 сағат бұрын
@@ThomasGail yeah if you're replacing. My bows brand new. Meaning by the time the strings are ready to go, i'll probably be ready for the new latest and greatest bow which will again have new strings.
@Christian.Jensen21 сағат бұрын
Did you have the same let-off?
@pjreilly399721 сағат бұрын
Yessir
@slippystevie21 сағат бұрын
Original string had holding weight of 6.4lbs. New strings had holding weight of 7.8. Per the video. Hope that helps lol
@stephenwallace242321 сағат бұрын
Though holding weight changed from 6.4 to 7.8lbs. Odd.
@pjreilly399721 сағат бұрын
@@stephenwallace2423 That is correct....but I didn't change the letoff, is my point. What I have found with these LCA scales is if you hit the back wall a bit hard, you can boost the holding weight.
@ThomasGail21 сағат бұрын
@@stephenwallace2423 If you have ever owned or used one of these, they can fluctuate a lot in their readings
@Angel.Custodio14 сағат бұрын
The physics would say that the strings won't make the arrows faster, might be more durable, but not faster.
@tjbrenny39618 сағат бұрын
Same price as replacement Mathews match strings, and I would assume these are better.
@FullDrawOutdoors17 сағат бұрын
while cool, Probably not something I'm going to change until I need strings. If I need strings i'm probably in the market for a upgrade anyways for a new bow. Cool idea though.
@davefisher5196Сағат бұрын
Im shooting 50lbs and shooting strings designed for 80lb bows. I should be able to go to a lighter weight strings with less stretch and gain speed
@jeffhartmann246914 сағат бұрын
I will say … at least GAS is being innovative.
@joshlasure338415 сағат бұрын
Your let off % was different from first test to second test. Why ?????
@jesusisalive322712 сағат бұрын
I cant get them for either of my bows so I guess it really doesn't matter.
@bloodlines961021 сағат бұрын
I need a single take of this. No edits
@pjreilly399721 сағат бұрын
We did it over 2 days because the first half we did at the end of day Wednesday and the second half we did first thing Thursday.....that'd be one long video....
@bloodlines961017 сағат бұрын
@pjreilly3997 lol I know but it's hard to believe it does that much. But we'll see! Pretty cool of it does.
@JW-bw8nj16 сағат бұрын
For less than a 5 fps gain with the GAS strings, I think I'd stick with the factory strings with it's lower holding weight and more consistent speeds.
@jesusisalive322713 сағат бұрын
You measure holding weight 10 times and you will get 5 different readings. Holding weight is hard to measure constantly.
@rogergrabiel11020 сағат бұрын
You didn’t have the same holding weight.
@pjreilly399719 сағат бұрын
You are correct…..I didn’t change any settings and the only way for me to manipulate holding weight is via letoff. I didn’t touch the letoff. I have had these LCA scales give me different letoff readings depending on how I hit the back wall. I don’t know if that happened here, but for me to reduce the holding weight to match the factory strings reading I would have had to increase letoff and it was already maxed, so there was nothing I could do about it.
@dksizzr21 сағат бұрын
Nice 👍
@ThunderHead_Hawkins21 сағат бұрын
They steal this from Rogue bow strings too?
@craigholland227414 сағат бұрын
Gas is the most overrated junk bowstrings made. You can do much better with independent string makers .
@philliphays59233 сағат бұрын
Agreed. I’ll stick to people like John’s Custom Archery, JBK or Catfish Customs. GAS is the Ultraview of the string game.
@brentvarner22402 сағат бұрын
BCY has went proprietary for bow companies on color, going pro for a string builder is where lm done. Bloodline from now on.
@xforce7086 сағат бұрын
That was underwhelming. 😳
@douglasbarton744017 сағат бұрын
Marketing all Marketing. Every few years since the 80' s strings get better and help make the bow faster. Noughting new. 3 to 7 fps 😅😅😅 not worth it.
@katieyoder219218 сағат бұрын
No arrow nocked, either on draw board or when DW was checked. Come on PJ, use good practices please.
@pjreilly399718 сағат бұрын
The draw board has a safety rope so no arrow needed there for sure…..using the scale, it has no trigger, but I wouldn’t use an arrow anyway because the cinderblock wall is less than 4 feet from me. I’d rather dry fire the bow than accidentally shoot an arrow.
@douglasvaughn953018 сағат бұрын
Settle down Karen. PJ is a professional, not his first rodeo.
@katieyoder219218 сағат бұрын
@pjreilly3997 I'm not trying to be pricky, I understand your reasoning. But there are people out there that might learn the wrong practices by watching this. At least please mention what should be standard practice for those who don't want to void their warranty by possible dry fire. We love your reviews and shop frequently, just thinking of the others out there that might be easily influenced by the pros ✌️❤️
@katieyoder219218 сағат бұрын
@@douglasvaughn9530 settle down Butch. I didn't ask to speak to the manager, I simply made a suggestion. You should read my reply to his before jumping to conclusions.
@pjreilly399718 сағат бұрын
@ Understood…..and I appreciate your concern
@Sparky51321 сағат бұрын
My A3 archery bloodlines gave me closer to 10fps and they don't stretch. 2 years on, paper tuned after 10 shots and still shots a bullet hole, they haven't budged, not even a 1/16 or an inch. Highly impressed with them, only downside is the wait time, took close to 6 weeks and I'm a very impatient person when it comes to gadgets and gizmos I buy 😂 If your dumb enough to spend this much in 4-5 fps then your an idiot, I have gas strings on my pse and I am not impressed at all with them, ince they're worn out ill be going to A3 bloodlines just like my mathews, every single shot with them I am confident that my arrow is coming off the string perfect 👌 even after 3,000-3,500 shots minimum, the gas strings I had to re paper tune after 500 cause the strings stretched. Gas has great marketing and a dope a$$ name, they are better than factory strings but they should be about $50-75 cheaper. Am I saying A3 is the best there is? No, there's probably better strings out there but it ain't gas and I know this first hand from experience. But again just my opinion from what I own and and try. Gas marketing is phenomenal and they will make a boat load of money off 3 fps 😂 I get it, people are dumb and they know this
@douglasvaughn953018 сағат бұрын
A3 strings are garbage and so is the owner. Scam artist is what he is.