GAS SystmX Bowstrings: These WILL Make Your Bow Faster - Tested to Verify

[@pjreilly3997]

In this test the holding weights are different. I can’t say for certain why that is. What I can say is that I didn’t touch the letoff settings. I can also say that, in the past, if I hit the back wall harder with this scale, I have increased holding weight. Is that what happened here? Maybe. I was paying more attention to making sure draw weight matched. I couldn’t have reduced the letoff poundage for the SystemX test anyway because it was set at the maximum.

[@stevehall4130]

I hopped on the comments to ask! U beat me to it with ur answer. Thanks for the transparency. Much appreciated!

[@Special-Specialist]

Thank you for the transparency PJ.

[@mikeb.2925]

Thanks for the test and the explanation PJ

[@richarddean3154]

Great video - excellent effort at getting the bow set exactly the same with both strings. Really appreciate the detailed review and test. Lancaster Archery is top notch.

[@naturalstatehunter5591]

I appreciate the effort and simplicity of the testing. Thank you for making sure all the variables were the same. Great product!

[@connorscheel6068]

His holding weight went up tho so it was gonna shoot faster no matter what

[@justins965]

Hey good job video producer! I loved the spray paint on the wall for the text. It looked legit. 😊

[@nathanscheuman4263]

Definitely worth checking out. My usual bow string manufacturer increase their prices to pretty close too that price already, if I didn't already have a new string I would throw these on. Not to mention Matthew's match strings are $190

[@mattsmillie2131]

It appears they also offer custom center serving size options according to the type of nock used. Some lighted nocks require a smaller diameter center serving for proper fit. IMO, that's a great option that you can select when ordering, but I'm not sure if other builders will do that or not.

[@tsi-rocket4144]

I switched to gold tip nocks for my victory .204 arrows because the height of the nock on the strings is the same as a lot of the lighted knocks. I've also found the required center serving diameter is very close to the same with the gold tip nocks and lighted nocks I'm using. My last string builder wanted what nock I was using when I ordered the strings so the center serving was right for the nocks I use. Difference between gold tip nock and an aae IP4 or easton nock. Most custom builders will center serve to the diameter you want but you have to know what that diameter is. It was a lot easier for me to let the builder know what nock I use and let them figure out the diameter. The builder that asked what nock I use served the correct diameter so I either got lucky or they knew what they were doing.

[@douglasrobertson4974]

Great video. You took a very thoughtful approach to your review/testing.

[@CryptoHuntinDad]

That's pretty badass for just strings. I mean you would never see 5 fps but atleast they are trying

[@matthewholmes8638]

I wonder how this compared to Bloodline Vec99 and BCY X99?

[@icr4bsi]

I'm currently finishing my current season on these ass cheek Mathews match strings(had to give fair chance) I was already use gas. So I'll be throwing these at the end of February

[@mikeb.2925]

I'm very interested in these but I want to know how the velocity is after 200 arrows. That's the test I want someone to do.

[@Getdownorlaydownbum]

Mine come in next week stoked nothing like getting new strings on your bow

[@MrPress6]

Just ordered mine thru Archery World Troutdale. Looking forward to getting them!

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

No, that's fine, order through another store, that's totally cool with me, it's not like you've broken my heart or anything, I'm 100% okay, really, actually I'm happy for you.

[@mikefutrell4224]

Great video PJ. The individuals who get on here and complain 200$ for 5 fps. Are new to bows or uneducated on how many people change out new stings for aftermarket strings only for preference much lees a gain in performance 🎯

[@philliphays5923]

They also don’t pay near $200 from a great builder.

[@pennyontrack]

Must be the strings Mathews uses to get their speed numbers haha

[@wayneeden98]

That gas x is something to look into

[@ny-co3039]

I see a lot of complaining (as usual) in these comments - $200 is more than resonable for a top end set of strings and how cool is that new material to actually add that much speed! Thanks for the scientific test PJ. Nice to see archery moving forward every time I scroll through youtube

[@philliphays5923]

No it is not reasonable. You can get high quality strings made by a single dedicated builder for under $150. GAS is the Ultraview of the string game.

[@ericp2881]

Did a spreadsheet for material cost on a set of strings/cables in 452x and halo...at the time it was a little over $15...

[@ny-co3039]

Agreed about Ultraview, but if GAS was the UV of strings - it would be a $500 set not $200

[@RomeoWhisky778]

For me every feet’s it’s matter,usually I shot long distances and heavy arrows,so 5 feet’s Yes Sir!

[@zonkey7938]

Get a crossbow then my one shooting at 515fps

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

@zonkey7938 heck just get a rifle if you just want projectile speed

[@douglasmc6597]

are the strings stretched and also the holding weight was higher then the stock

[@hersheladkins6797]

Why is the holding weight more on the gas strings?

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Changing how exactly you pull into the back wall can affect reading of the holding weight - the strings don't affect that.

[@Farrlavator2002]

if draw weight is the same why did the hold weight go up from 6.8lbs to 7.4lbs with the new GAS strings?

[@6saturdaysaweekoutdoors]

I was wondering the same thing

[@Ibelieveinfreedom]

Because is not!!!

[@JW-bw8nj]

I'm assuming it's because the factory strings have more give to them

[@jeremylandphier692]

More strands in the cables duh !

[@WoodsandWater72]

He could've hit the back wall a bit more aggressively this changing the holding weight. I've tested that on mine as well to try and get the most accurate back tension "hold" as possible and it does in fact change based on how aggressively/smoothly you come off that valley. Not saying I know everything I'm Just putting my two cents in in case anyone has done or has had the same results based on random testing like I did. Could be wrong though! And for what it's worth, I friggin love the salt and pepper color

[@orobino32]

what is with the pse dominator x ?

[@Jf6812-e4j]

Did they lower the strand count? Did stability change?

[@Milanv0908]

How does it compare feel wise? (Compared to the regular high octane with all the color options) more vibration less vibration? More kick in the bow or is it more dead in the hand? Thats also a big reason to pick certain strings or not thats the feel it gives

[@pjreilly3997]

They felt great

[@Milanv0908]

@pjreilly3997 yes but whats the difference? Like i said more or less shock? More or less kick foreward that stuff

[@pjreilly3997]

@@Milanv0908 I would say I didn't notice a difference. For me, I don't want to notice the string when I release it. And that's how these felt.

[@gsanning]

The holding weight was different. Why would this be, and what difference would this make on the speed?

[@ajbholsters2035]

If the holding weight increased at the same measured draw length, then there will be a little more "umph" on the back end. That would increase the arrow speed a little.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Check out PJ's comment under this video - the holding weight could have been altered by simply hitting the back wall differently from shot to shot, without an actual change in holding weight.

[@helmutfrey4375]

3 questions. Why no test with other gas bowstrings? What wheight difference have the strings? How many arrows can these system x handle?

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

1) This is a video showcasing GAS SystmX strings 2) Weight is determined by the bow setup 3) Many? (depending on how you take care of them and how often you shoot them, just like with anything else)

[@helmutfrey4375]

Not the draw weight...the weight of the strings himself...lighter strings...more Speed

[@BassWhoopinFishingTeam]

They sound great but some of us like the custom color options. It’s a shame these only come in salt and pepper color.

[@ian993]

How much fps do you get adding a lb? About 5 also? Or using a little lighter arrow.

[@tjbrenny396]

Same price as replacement Mathews match strings, and I would assume these are better.

[@WayneStevenson-y6e]

Nah! I’ll stick with Joey’s Bowstrings! Best strings I’ve ever used!

[@shaneg8531]

Anywhere from 3 to 7fps maybe is what I've saw they said. That's now different than materials before. I'm sure it's the bcy 452xtra. All marketing to get a buy. I just thought it was funny how they said the string industry has been nothing for a long time. Idk when they dropped ghost it was the best and new a few years ago. It was just bcy 454.

[@Christian.Jensen]

Did you have the same let-off?

[@pjreilly3997]

Yessir

[@slippystevie]

Original string had holding weight of 6.4lbs. New strings had holding weight of 7.8. Per the video. Hope that helps lol

[@stephenwallace2423]

Though holding weight changed from 6.4 to 7.8lbs. Odd.

[@pjreilly3997]

@@stephenwallace2423 That is correct....but I didn't change the letoff, is my point. What I have found with these LCA scales is if you hit the back wall a bit hard, you can boost the holding weight.

[@ThomasGail]

@@stephenwallace2423 If you have ever owned or used one of these, they can fluctuate a lot in their readings

[@joshlasure3384]

Your let off % was different from first test to second test. Why ?????

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Check out PJ's comment under the video to see why it was different.

[@neokane]

I think I'd take consistency over speed.

[@rockyowens2206]

It’s weird the holding weight is more on the gas strings 🤔 like the let off was changed. Does changing the let off to a heavier let off speed the bow up??

[@LuqmanHM]

Yes but 1lbs is not enough to change the speed

[@davyjones922]

Yes. Under the right conditions lowering the let-off will increase speed. Ive had increases between 5-10fps dropping from 85% to 75%/65%

[@pjreilly3997]

So I didn’t change the letoff. You are correct the holding weight did change. I’ve found that holding weight on this LCA scale can go up if you hit the back wall hard, but that’s a guess as to what happened here. I can’t say that’s what happened for sure. I can only say I didn’t change the letoff……

[@RG_outdoors285]

😅 $200 for a set of strings guess it's true a fool and his money is soon parted.

[@douglasrobertson4974]

Could the difference in holding weight be more back pressure from PJ while holding the scale?

[@dksizzr]

Nice 👍

[@FullDrawOutdoors]

while cool, Probably not something I'm going to change until I need strings. If I need strings i'm probably in the market for a upgrade anyways for a new bow. Cool idea though.

[@bloodlines9610]

I need a single take of this. No edits

[@pjreilly3997]

We did it over 2 days because the first half we did at the end of day Wednesday and the second half we did first thing Thursday.....that'd be one long video....

[@bloodlines9610]

@pjreilly3997 lol I know but it's hard to believe it does that much. But we'll see! Pretty cool of it does.

[@Angel.Custodio]

The physics would say that the strings won't make the arrows faster, might be more durable, but not faster.

[@thomasstanworth]

Not true

[@Angel.Custodio]

thank you for your in-depth rebuttal 😂😂😂

[@ericnewman971]

if the holding weight is correct, there is an increase in holding weight of 21.875%, which means the draw curve is not the same. So now we ask the question, is the stored energy the same. If it's not, then an increase in stored energy will increase velocity. .This is good for customers. Bad for manufactures haha

[@YoureSoVane]

Most certainly. I wonder if they focused on hysteresis or some other variable of energy loss, like internal friction between fibers.

[@jesusisalive3227]

Holding weight depends on how hard he is pulling on the scale.

[@YoureSoVane]

@@jesusisalive3227 No it does not. The scale records the lowest weight and the highest weight. Your minimum holding weight is the lowest weight on the draw cycle. You can pull 30# or more if you want and it won't change the readout for holding weight. I have the exact same scale and that's exactly how it works.

[@jesusisalive3227]

@@YoureSoVane So you can get the exact weight 10 times in a row? I really doubt that!

[@YoureSoVane]

@@jesusisalive3227 Exact weight? No. But I can't change the holding weight by wrenching on the scale, either.

[@stephenmcguire7019]

Good try GAS, think I'll just keep rolling my own

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

To each their own, man.

[@thomasalexander8581]

Nothing new under the sun. Back in the 80's we added brass nocks to the bow strings and gained the exact same amount of FPS. Total cost .10 cents. But those Gas strings sure look a lot cooler with monogramed shrink tubing over the nocks. Give Gas Stings credit "great marketing" gimmick.

[@davefisher5196]

Im shooting 50lbs and shooting strings designed for 80lb bows. I should be able to go to a lighter weight strings with less stretch and gain speed

[@jesusisalive3227]

I cant get them for either of my bows so I guess it really doesn't matter.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

An astute observation indeed.

[@jeffhartmann2469]

I will say … at least GAS is being innovative.

[@jedibowen]

$200 for roughly 5 fps. Pass. Maybe if changing strings to begin with, but still a tough sell.

[@ThomasGail]

People sell strings for $200 or more that don't even give you 5 fps. And if you are replacing with strings that are cheaper, say $100-150, then you a only spending $50-100 more for 5 fps.

[@C_H_U_]

@@ThomasGailSHHHHHHH he still thinks it’s $200 more for 5 fps LOL… This generations math ain’t mathing. JEZUZ CHROIST….

[@alfonsyoichi1043]

wow that expensive?

[@rally6824]

Your spending 130-170 for typical , my first string was 240. 200 is not bad.

[@FullDrawOutdoors]

@@ThomasGail yeah if you're replacing. My bows brand new. Meaning by the time the strings are ready to go, i'll probably be ready for the new latest and greatest bow which will again have new strings.

[@rogergrabiel110]

You didn’t have the same holding weight.

[@pjreilly3997]

You are correct…..I didn’t change any settings and the only way for me to manipulate holding weight is via letoff. I didn’t touch the letoff. I have had these LCA scales give me different letoff readings depending on how I hit the back wall. I don’t know if that happened here, but for me to reduce the holding weight to match the factory strings reading I would have had to increase letoff and it was already maxed, so there was nothing I could do about it.

[@JW-bw8nj]

For less than a 5 fps gain with the GAS strings, I think I'd stick with the factory strings with it's lower holding weight and more consistent speeds.

[@jesusisalive3227]

You measure holding weight 10 times and you will get 5 different readings. Holding weight is hard to measure consistently.

[@greekmaster1001]

do you really think I will believe that both times you check poundage was exactly 70 pounds? Absolutely, no way

[@pjreilly3997]

I’m too old and I got too many other things to do than to make fake videos for KZbin…..

[@greekmaster1001]

@ I’m not saying it’s fake. I’m just saying you might’ve took at least three tries.

[@greekmaster1001]

@ btw I love your videos and I do buy a lot of stuff from Lancaster

[@pjreilly3997]

@ Preciate you man!

[@ThunderHead_Hawkins]

They steal this from Rogue bow strings too?

[@chriskotaska8124]

Well the string itself may or may not be the fastest set out there on a given bow striped of everything, but as soon as you add everything to the string it might not still be depending on weight of what was added. Then it’s just blk and white…boring. Want speed, get a faster bow.

[@douglasbarton7440]

Marketing all Marketing. Every few years since the 80' s strings get better and help make the bow faster. Noughting new. 3 to 7 fps 😅😅😅 not worth it.

[@diogutierrez5234]

Not worth it, I rather stay with factory ones!😜

[@craigholland2274]

Gas is the most overrated junk bowstrings made. You can do much better with independent string makers .

[@philliphays5923]

Agreed. I’ll stick to people like John’s Custom Archery, JBK or Catfish Customs. GAS is the Ultraview of the string game.

[@brentvarner2240]

BCY has went proprietary for bow companies on color, going pro for a string builder is where lm done. Bloodline from now on.

[@optimuscrime608]

GAS is a huge gimmick. They are great at marketing. Ask any quality string builder in the game, gas strings are just mass produced by high school kids now. They aren’t what they use to be. Find yourself a good, reputable one man show string builder. There’s a lot to choose from! GAS use to be one of these guys.

[@pjreilly3997]

So I was at their plant recently…..didn’t see any high school kids working when I was there.

[@philliphays5923]

They are the Ultraview of the string industry

[@Buck279l]

GAS strings are the best you can buy and stand behind their product.

[@philliphays5923]

@ 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jackbuendgen389]

If that was even remotely true there wouldn't be ANY archery pros using gas. But low and behold most of the top archers not shooting Mathews use gas bowstrings

[@ravenflight88]

😂 faster bows still shooting bad arrows and bad broadheads , just what the world needs. put your money into your arrows, a bow never killed anything 😂 facts are facts.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

I'd venture to say that the core of your setup (bow, string, rest, sight, shaft, fletching, broadhead) all contribute to effective hunting.

[@xforce708]

That was underwhelming. 😳

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

Were you thinking it was going to gain 70 FPS?

[@xforce708]

@ nope. Forty years in this sport and I didn’t expect anything but my wasted time watching the video. Lol. But was hoping to be wrong and see 15 FPS. No way I’d spend two hunnit doll hairs for 4 FPS.

[@LancasterArcherySupply]

It's one of those things where, if someone shoots at long range and were in the market for/needed new strings, they would probably be open to paying a fist full of doll hairs for these strings.

[@katieyoder2192]

No arrow nocked, either on draw board or when DW was checked. Come on PJ, use good practices please.

[@pjreilly3997]

The draw board has a safety rope so no arrow needed there for sure…..using the scale, it has no trigger, but I wouldn’t use an arrow anyway because the cinderblock wall is less than 4 feet from me. I’d rather dry fire the bow than accidentally shoot an arrow.

[@douglasvaughn9530]

Settle down Karen. PJ is a professional, not his first rodeo.

[@katieyoder2192]

@pjreilly3997 I'm not trying to be pricky, I understand your reasoning. But there are people out there that might learn the wrong practices by watching this. At least please mention what should be standard practice for those who don't want to void their warranty by possible dry fire. We love your reviews and shop frequently, just thinking of the others out there that might be easily influenced by the pros ✌️❤️

[@katieyoder2192]

@@douglasvaughn9530 settle down Butch. I didn't ask to speak to the manager, I simply made a suggestion. You should read my reply to his before jumping to conclusions.

[@pjreilly3997]

@ Understood…..and I appreciate your concern

[@Sparky513]

My A3 archery bloodlines gave me closer to 10fps and they don't stretch. 2 years on, paper tuned after 10 shots and still shots a bullet hole, they haven't budged, not even a 1/16 or an inch. Highly impressed with them, only downside is the wait time, took close to 6 weeks and I'm a very impatient person when it comes to gadgets and gizmos I buy 😂 If your dumb enough to spend this much in 4-5 fps then your an idiot, I have gas strings on my pse and I am not impressed at all with them, ince they're worn out ill be going to A3 bloodlines just like my mathews, every single shot with them I am confident that my arrow is coming off the string perfect 👌 even after 3,000-3,500 shots minimum, the gas strings I had to re paper tune after 500 cause the strings stretched. Gas has great marketing and a dope a$$ name, they are better than factory strings but they should be about $50-75 cheaper. Am I saying A3 is the best there is? No, there's probably better strings out there but it ain't gas and I know this first hand from experience. But again just my opinion from what I own and and try. Gas marketing is phenomenal and they will make a boat load of money off 3 fps 😂 I get it, people are dumb and they know this

[@douglasvaughn9530]

A3 strings are garbage and so is the owner. Scam artist is what he is.