Lancia 037 vs Audi Quattro | Ben Collins Drives

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The '80s are making a comeback, and I've just driven two of the biggest rallying icons from the decade in anger!
I was lucky enough to recently get behind the wheel of both a Lancia 037 Stradale and an Audi Ur-Quattro during an extremely special track day.
Front-engined vs mid-engined. 4WD vs RWD. Turbocharged vs supercharged. These are clearly two very different beasts, but both equally as special, exciting and downright gorgeous in their own right.
It was incredible to re-live the iconic battle that took place between these marques around 40 years ago, with every lap taking me back to those unmatched analogue days of motorsport.
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Thanks to Flat-Out Media for producing this video: flatoutmedia.org/

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[@alexmaus5059]

Why everione has forget the Opel Ascona?

[@nortski78]

Can we take a moment to appreciate how good a presenter Ben is! No awkward silences, no tripping over words, no unnecessary endless use of superlatives.

[@Mapa356]

3 minutes in I come to say the same. Improving all the time too

[@KellyR-qx7wn]

Some say... he's a natural presenter for a car show.

[@TrackItYT]

Best by miles and got the knowledge to boot

[@snootbooper467]

you do know that any awkward silences and tripping over words will be edited out...

[@biafo4541]

​@snootbooper467 there are car youtubers with higher subscriber numbers who, after editing, aren't as good.

[@digitalmike330]

Can I just say how much I appreciate all that Ben Collins does without it being awkward.

[@dj_laundry_list]

Yeah I imagine if he wore a full racing suit and just didn't say anything it wouldn't be awkward either

[@Neo-Midgar]

I'm really glad to see the 037 finally getting some more respect over the years. It was lost in the Stratos' shadow for so long.

[@flacjacket]

Both have aged extremely gracefully IMO, but the 037 Stradale is one of the most beautiful cars ever built. Great video, thanks Ben!

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@mitfreundlichengrussen1234]

I am German and I have the greatest respect for the 037 - this Lancia was knighted by Walter Roehrl and flew Lancia to the championship. What a supercar.

[@manuocio]

For him the best driver machine. Car can do all driver want. And Rohrl was master of skills

[@mitfreundlichengrussen1234]

@@manuocio yeah, he loved the car

[@ghomerhust]

he did a lot of work with audi, but he really doted on the lancias. i think he really felt how visceral and raw they were, designed for nothing more than the job at hand

[@mitfreundlichengrussen1234]

@@ghomerhust He said he never really liked Audi since they tried to set him up in a Rally with the wrong set of tires.

[@weaksignal8009]

It's a 4cyl F40, 037 rocks

[@n0w3lly90]

Many Gen Xers would like one of those. I'd take the Lancia. Your silence as The Stig was wasted Ben: excellent presenter, great commentary and explanations of the experience

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Thank you kindly

[@Lee_Pitcher]

Friend of mine owns the actual 037 used in the film Audi vs Lancia. Was very fortunate to potter on it and be a passenger last weekend on a shake down drive. Stunning stunning car. Have no interest in a new Ferrari or Lambo etc. I’d take one of these every day. Kimera are doing an Ev038 which it worth keeping an eye on too.

[@dusankocisevic6823]

Man, YOU ARE one lucky bastard just to sit in one 🔝🔝🙏🙏🇮🇹🇮🇹

[@rivenmotors7981]

Audi made a homologated Sport Quattro street version of the rally car. A much more high-strung tuned engine and shorter and smaller car than the Ur-Quattro. Wish you would have had that to help with a more direct comparison. But the 037 has always had the magic and why I have a Lancia Montecarlo/Scorpion that I'm resto-modding. Thanks for taking us around and letting us hear the machines!

[@user-pt1ow8hx5l]

The ur-Quattro came up against the 037

[@IronMetal]

And yet all of the weight is in front of the front axle, a bad chassis only saved by AWD. Not my favourite type of car, by all means

[@rivenmotors7981]

@@user-pt1ow8hx5l Ok but the racecar Audi created for Group B series was the Quattro Sport.

[@r129r16pfl]

​@@rivenmotors7981 didn't go against 037

[@aarondavis8433]

I never understood how lucky I was at 17 when my mother bought me an 84 Audi 4000 quattro, it was my second car, My first being a $300 chevy that was giraffe yellow with black spots of rust reformer on it and was less reliable than a alcoholic step father in a horror film. Basically she wanted the car out of her driveway. We both loved the car, I miss both her and it. Was definitely the car that sealed my love for cars. Thank you mom!

[@manuocio]

037 all the life. The driver machine. Beauty and talented. Icon.

[@EvilEndz]

Woohoo 200k subscribers! Congratulations Mr Collins, well deserved! Now onwards, and upwards. 👍

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Many thanks!

[@adamwhite9304]

So grateful to be able to watch you do your own thing Ben ! Especially after being so quiet for years 😉

[@barneycharalambous8043]

Nice vid Ben, the owner of the 037 was so nice to me at my son. I flagged him down a couple of years ago in Long Hanborough. So relaxed on letting us look at the car and subsequently we went to the Lancia meet near Didcot and met a wonderful group of Lancia owners. I’ve been a huge fan since I was a child and still get goosebumps whenever I see one. 👍👍👍

[@vannjunkin8041]

Audi all day everyday. I had a 4000 quattro 5cyl. I so loved that car. Got behind a turbod version. WOW.

[@ryanbaptiste249]

What shocked me about driving the 037 Stradale back in the ‘80s, was just how usable it was. With that huge rear spoiler, it was awkward to reverse into parking spots and you had to be careful with high kerbs because the front bib was low but it was otherwise very drivable and surprisingly refined, with a supple ride. On open roads you could switch to beast mode and drive it hard and, even without reaching its limits it would still raise a smile. But you felt that you needed to be mindful of the fact that 037s were rare, even then - unlike the ubiquitous and seemingly bullet-proof Quattro, which could be thrown around without a second thought.

[@rolen2358]

Between 037 and Integrale there was Delta S4 - pinnacle of B group cars. Fast, lightweight, and dangerous

[@alexandermclaughlin3978]

I noticed his omission of the wonderful S4 too 😊 Makes the 037 look quite unbeastly, by comparison 👌

[@dusankocisevic6823]

Fast, Furious, and Deadly. Respect forever, THE Delta S4 boys 🇫🇮🇮🇹🇫🇮

[@Redmi-j4i]

S4 was deadly. If you watch all the videos with S4 - waw what a machine. The ba..s on drivers who drowe that monsters are really big. B group era was fast but dangerous. But the best on to watch - cars racing in the see of fans who jump away at the last second 😮

[@dusankocisevic6823]

@@Redmi-j4i the ‘trees’ by the road, Flying Finns called them.. what an amazing era in rally🙏🙏

[@rolen2358]

@@Redmi-j4i Yes, the best among them lost his life - Henri Toivonen. He was good enough to be F1 driver, but his family decided to go with rallying - as in theirs opinion it was safer. What an irony!

[@Redmi-j4i]

Another great video from Ben. He is so natural in front of the camera and his knowledge is amazing. Cant wait for the next video. 😊

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Coming soon!

[@fullsenderman8291]

The way he let the car settle and didnt over correct on the one turn was amazing true skill watching ben drive is amazing as close to walter roule as we can get excellent video mr Collins 👌 perfecto

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@bpfrocket]

I love how Ben calmly is throwing a car he says is worth a million pounds around a track at high speed 😂😂

[@augusthorch9111]

Ein sehr schönes Video, begleitet von einem Moderator, der sachlich und trotzdem emotional berichtet. Eine große Freude und zwei Fahrzeuge, die jeder Rallyfan kennt. Vielen Dank für die gute Unterhaltung!!! Beste Grüße aus Deutschland🙂

[@gmain1977]

Ben is great at this, he should joined Chris Harris on Top Gear. 2 awesome cars but Lancia 037 is car I would take

[@somepliskin]

The Clarkson presented feature on the battle between these two for the rally world championship is one of the most entertaining motor pieces ever created.

[@Rick2010100]

Many years ago I knew a man who was a diehard Lancia fan. He had a new car every few months. I always asked him what had happened to the old car, had he crashed it? He said no, but there were too many very expensive repairs to be done. He bought a different car each time in the hope of not having to spend a fortune on repairs, but the concept didn't work. After Lancia he had exactly the same problems with Maserati. A friend who is an automotive engineer once told me that the main problem with Lancia is the delicate engine. Due to the weight savings in the material, it is unstable under load and warps. This not only leads to high levels of wear, but also to leaky seals. This doesn't matter in racing, where a new engine is regularly installed at factory expense, but end customers don't get a free replacement engine.

[@simoncullen7960]

Another well informed well made video . Thanks Ben . Looking forward to the next one .

[@TheStorkSR]

Yes! I commented on one of your earlier videos on how much I'd love to see you behind the wheel of the 037, easily my favorite car design of all time and the 1983 WRCs is my favorite car story of all time. Wonderful vid and I'll keep my fingers crossed that you'll find a kind original Stratos owner to let you play with the imperfect but impactful car and you can finish your channel's punch card for Lancia rally classics lol

[@pjakep]

I love you Ben Collins, you are a hero of mine! But you can’t dismiss the sheer brutality of that 5 pot! They were always on to a winner!

[@fightingparamecium9605]

The 037 is one of the sexiest of cars in the world, in my eyes. If I hit the lottery I would want an 037 and S4 for heydays and delta integrale for daily driving (After replacing the quality tin with stainless steel panels a-la DeLorean) Dreams... Lancia dreams... :)

[@kpal2946]

You can tell Ben is driving a 1/217 car that is worth $1,000,000.00 . I've been lucky enough to go for a ride in one of these, i knew it was a rare car but I had no idea how special it was at the time. Love it.

[@victorprietoiglesias2846]

Bienaventurado usted,desde luego un privilegiado si tuvo ocasión de montar es uno,felicidades!

[@icekitty400]

The value of the car is $1,300,000 as the value mentioned in this video was in pounds (£1,000,000).

[@DM-wp9vq]

Two of the greatest cars ever! That Lancia though.. i would owe tons in tickets. In my opinion, that's the best sounding 4cyl ever made!

[@MrDOZA28]

A pearl white 20v UR would be one of my top 3 dream cars. Love them.

[@russellrobson7632]

Love the Audi! I'd have one in a heartbeat, alas budget wouldn't stretch so I bought a Scirocco, still the same 80's vibe and puts a silly grin on my face every time I get behind the wheel! Great drive Ben, thank you. 👍🇬🇧

[@Lucan-ve6zc]

Two amazing cars. One a brute (in the best of ways). One a beauty. Italian for me every time.

[@karenreddy]

You've given me so many happy moments with your participation in Top Gear. Thank you, I will forever be grateful. I wish you ALL the success!

[@paballomolata8844]

I was just about to watch a movie about the 2 cars go head to head in the rally scene Edit: CONGRATULATIONS on 200k subs

[@ChrisGallighan]

Film is deffo worth a watch dude

[@paballomolata8844]

@@ChrisGallighan Right on👍🏿i definitely am

[@mishumihai223]

The way that Lancia engine revs 🤩

[@DavidandLegs]

Commenting before I watch the video! Really looking forward to the next 20 minutes, Ben Collins has become my favourite KZbin channel, great contents, presented flawlessly. I like he features cars which he has a genuine interest in, not just following the crowd. Keep up the good work Ben and Thankyou.

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Hope you enjoyed it!

[@DavidandLegs]

@@BenCollinsDrives 👍 loved it. Looking forward to the next one now.

[@MightyTubbyTuba]

the lancia is such a beautiful car, it looks amazing going around the track and the engine sounds very smooth

[@stevehill1495]

Superb camera work and great presentation. I see that particular 037 regularly at Shelsley Walsh and other venues and it’s a credit to the owner that it is properly used and not stored away.

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@grantmccarron3963]

Thoroughly enjoyed that one Stiggy (Ben)! Great selection of cars on showcase. That Lancia sure is a looker.

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@martineering.evoluzione]

Well reading in an old book about rallying when the group B was started they even didn't know that the handbrakes will be helpful for taking a U turns. So this was evolving.

[@alexkuper6899]

Great content Ben. After the 037 the next car was the Delta S4 started in Nov1985 at the RAC Rally. After all the incidents in the 86 Season and the subsequent shut down of Group B Lancia started te 87 season with the Delta 4wd, then in 87 the Integrale in all its variations. Yup Group B was something special :-0

[@BeAPickle]

Ben, we need you to race these cars around the track, we are all here for that.

[@scruff520]

Awesome video Ben. As an Audi driver myself i would steer (no pun intended) towards to Audi, but the Lancia was gorgeous and very sharp.

Whan awesome video! My dream cars when I was a kid. I never wanted the supercars. I always wanted these rally cars I'm grateful for this great video

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@DakarRaider]

Totally agree with Ben about the 80's, Group B, and the awesome music 😎

[@hendriegrimberg5016]

Most underrated channel. I love it ❤

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you enjoy it!

[@LorchVHS]

037 vs Quattro has so many parallels with F40 vs 959.

[@simonrook5743]

Well except these two genuinely competed in competitions against each other!

[@robinfoster7597]

Wow, I've never seen a street version of the 037 before!. Great review Ben, thanks :)

[@BenCollinsDrives]

My pleasure!

[@fireescaper8672]

Looks like Pembrey circuit. Good video. Thank you

[@derekhartley4480]

Ben, you have really stepped up the quality of your videos lately. Thank you.

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Glad you think so!

[@ricardoslhenriques]

When cars looked like cars...

[@hc2774]

Great video. The Audi is one of my favourite car form the 80's. Unfortunatelly, I'm only allowed to drive with an automatic transmission, so owning and driving one stays as a dream.

[@jofi4580]

Love the channel Ben!

[@T-Bag13]

2 shit hot cars, but it's the Lancia for me.

[@madyogi6164]

👋👌👍

[@simonelliott5956]

Great video and two of my hero cars! Would love to have seen the Sport Quattro as well, but you can’t have everything! Group B was slap bang in the middle of me becoming a teenager and I loved watching it. Of course I had the obligatory Michele Mouton poster, I mean what could be better at that age, a gorgeous young lady taking on and beating the men in her Quattro!

[@user-qq2mo1ek2r]

That Lancia is gorgeous.

[@sidwallace6053]

Some absolutely fantastic cars from that period,Ford RS200,Metro 6R4,Toyota Celica,Peugeot 205 T16 and of course these 2 (I’m thinking that this Lancia was the last 2 wheel drive to win a rally) in this vlog,shame it had to come to end due to tragic the deaths of Henri Toivonen and his co-driver Sergio Cresto in the 1986 Tour de Corse,in their Lancia Delta S4,the FIA banned the group from competing in the WRC from the following season

[@MudSluggerBP]

God I’d love a 6R4 or a T16, dream cars 🤟🏻

[@rcmakingtracks18]

Brilliant Ben, I've always loved Lancia and have owned a few, great cars in my experience. John

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

Always such great vids!!! Sooooooo much better than soooooo many other reviewers 👍😊👊💥

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Thanks 👍

[@Aliens_Gonna_Get_Ya]

@@BenCollinsDrives luv’d your work from Down Under for years… 🙏👍😊

[@alidaniels2487]

My 2 favourite cars out of childhood wrc machinery, tested by the Stig, Lovely!

[@lotus-jps]

I almost bought one when new (got a Porsche 944 instead), but did have the legit successor, the RS2 (which you should do a video about), as well as the RS4

[@richyiotp1]

As a kid in the 80's the quattro was such an amazing machine

[@watfrd]

Ben is not one for hyperbole, he adores cars and is a true Petrol Head! The heir apparent to the GT/Top gear retired lads.

[@UncleManuel]

I'm still amazed that Walter Röhrl got world Rally champion with 4 different manufacturers. And survived the madness called "Group B". 😎🤘 And regarding the Quattro: one Audi driver said that you absolutely have to drive it "dirty" and "throw" it into corners - because it understeers like crazy. 😜

[@gearhead9828]

Actually just two, Fiat and Opel.

[@fullsenderman8291]

It would be amazing to ride with you pushing the 037 hard seeing what a legend could do with it irl

[@benc8386]

Great video! I love how body roll is now a feature. A bit softer is much better for the road. I blame track day culture for cars like the RS6.

[@BorehammerDrive]

I got to admit that I was huge fan of vintage cars and homologation specials as well, allthough I´ve owned only "basic" models such as Mk1 Sierras, but more older I get the less I understand vintage car culture. Yes, older cars have less grip in general (due to suspension configurations at the time), which also means you lose more it predictably, but unlike most people think, modern or should I say cars younger than 20 years old, can be more snappy on the limit, mainly due better more grippy chassis solutions, but therefore more rewarding to drive. Obviuosly there are few things that are saint as drivers point of view, car had to be RWD and manual. This said as a happy owner of E90 325i😁

[@berniecoles2337]

Thanks Ben for the great vid, I Love Pembrey circuit. When I walk my dogs in the forest and hear the roar of engines it makes me want to be back doing track days of years gone past. One thing I have to pick you up on is that it’s pronounced Pembray not Pembrey as it’s spelt. Won’t mention names but we used to chuck bikes out the back of a van if they’d been crashed doing track days to claim off insurance, knowing they weren’t covered for track use.😂

[@happychappy7115]

We know Ben owns his own Italian special 😊

[@somberyu]

Ben talks about the lightness and brittleness of the 037, and that made me think of how, apparently, the weight saving measures on the Delta S4 Rally car were so extreme that part of it slowly fell apart just from going through the stages.

[@Pirustae]

The amount of roll on the back wheels is hilarious 😂

[@rtg0616]

I'm really surprised that you didn't complain about wind noise in the quattro, the passenger door is open! I had a ur in the early 90's absolutely loved it. Fantastic car.

[@drakinfpv9629]

The hand torch would be for the navigator to read pace notes at night.

[@toucheturtle3840]

The sound of the 5 pot Audi…

[@albertrtrout]

Wow. He's really pushing it. Like my Gran driving to Tesco.

[@ekmad]

Love a Quattro but it's hard to look past the 037. That being said my favourite Lancia of all time has to go to the Delta S4. What a car!

[@fullsenderman8291]

This man should be one of the new presenters of the new grand tour

[@alidaniels2487]

Choosing between an ur quattro or a delta Evo would be THE hardest automotive decision going for me. I think I'd have to have both!!

[@dusankocisevic6823]

Good one Stig. Just need to worship those red Stradale rarity units🙏🙏🔝🔝 (and that red MARTINI RACING jacket too😎)

[@iandavidson99]

Happy 200k !!

[@londonman8688]

they have made a great movie about this rally season

[@Bluespaceboat]

205 T16 when? Loved the video

[@arx5638]

I would love to See Ben testing the Toyota GR86 or the GR Yaris

[@Hound87]

That Audi is a stunning looking vehicle…. Couldn’t agree more with the comments on the analogue dials though!

[@demileonielaisure3100]

They were real drivers then, not saying you’re not….or any race driver now…..but my god I swear the actual guts of those drivers passing trees at 100+ is just mind blowing but also very appealing. I loved having my Subaru and taring around in it but those cars back then were off or on and unsafe as hell! So yeah….crazy! And you think if group s had gone through how many drivers we would have lost!

[@Arturo-cz8mt]

Thanks Ben, great report. Regards.

[@rolandoinductivo8013]

finding #37 would be magic

[@ianedmonds9191]

The 037 Stradale looks like a supercar. The Quattro looks like your neighbours VW Sirocco hatchback from the same time. MId Engine cars have something no other layout of car can come close to. The engine noise from behind your ears counts for so much emotion. Luv and Peace.

[@enwins]

Two utter classics

[@beijingbond]

Another great video, Ben.

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Thanks again!

[@TygonBC]

Awesome stuff Ben. Your channel keeps growing in every way. I've always loved the 037 Stradale and have been drawn to homologation specials. Hoping you can one day jump into a Delta S4 Stradale and/or an RS200 Evo, but love me some of the more obscure Group B near-misses such as the BX 4TC, 240RS...road versions are unicorns =)

[@ninja12lawbreaker]

Hi Ben, nice test. I put headphones on for the Audi test and the rattling sounded very like a tumbler of whiskey with ice cubes. Nice to see Pembrey again ps. pronounced pem bray. Been watching content on the Tolman resto mods on Peugeot 109's today too. The 80's are coming back, you might be right

[@docwyte]

Please do a review of all the rally/street cars we never got here in the USA. So UrQuattro 20v, Delta Integrale, Ford Escort Cossie, etc, etc...

[@GoddessOfMisfortune]

I love Lancias, even with that gauge at 9:59 reminding us it's an italian car through and through! 😂

[@jreacock]

A tab on the drive gear coming from the gearbox snapped recently. Might be weldable - but parts are hard to find. Speedo works fine otherwise.

[@GoddessOfMisfortune]

@jreacock No problems there, honestly. I drive my datsun just fine without a tach, I assume you're used to the sound of it well enough to know when to shift.

[@trappedinkalifornee]

Good episode!! Two of my all time favorite’s along with the Stratos.👍🏼👍🏼 I have to ask, was the passenger door ajar on one of those laps or am I seeing things?

[@Flatmat]

Good work Ben 🙏

[@BenCollinsDrives]

Thank you 🙌

[@matthewchandler2647]

I don’t even have to watch. Just seeing the 2 silhouettes nose-to-nose and it’s the svelte Lancia hands down

[@mattdedasc]

The 037 was my poster car as a child. Markku Alen

[@s2_quattro]

Loved watching both being driven...80's cars ARE the best. ...but shouldn't the 037 have been compared to the Sport quattro rather than the UR quattro? Both homologation in very limited numbers.