Land Crash - Zimbabwe Beyond Title Deeds

"Land Crash - Zimbabwe Beyond Title Deeds" is a powerful and poignant examination of the ongoing struggle for justice and the protection of human rights in Zimbabwe.
Throughout history, the story of land grabs, always ends the same: at the end, the dispossessed need to be compensated. Zimbabwe is no exception, and various offers led to agreements with both BIPA protected investors and local farmers, but the Zimbabwean government failed to perform. Farmers are sceptical about the latest offers for payments in bonds.
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[@ilovetoshop]

My family was moved from what was called the "central estate" or 'sendere" as my late uncle who passed away last year at age 98 would call it. His and my father's dad (my grandfather) was buried there in the sixties. They were forced to move to Gokwe, i never saw my grandfather's grave. This is an emotive issue... Let me just leave it at that.

[@bensonselebogo2768]

My grandma on my mother's side too went through that ordeal, she was move to Gokwe before it each became a grouth point.

[@tyronwilliams910]

We appreciate the work you do Saai!

[@wbrianna27]

Agree wholeheartedly! Such a terrible disaster that has befallen such a wonderful country. God bless you all the Farmers who feed us all

[@hairepy]

But this happens ALL the time in Western world.

[@anthonyrose7576]

They're not saveryers of anyone they stole the land's from the people of Africa they have no rights to any.

[@anthonyrose7576]

Imagine the invader calling the rightful owners of land in Africa calling them invaders Go figure get off the people Land it doesn't belong to your people. It was STOLEN!

[@tinashe-back-to-roots]

Farming is my Therapy. I pray that one day I will be able to have my own farm😢 currently as a youth I really need to work for the great farmers like you guys so that I can get experience.

[@cathr7208]

A very informative video - thank you for your work.

[@Tokolos]

Was going to write a nice long comment, but the power is going off in 2 mins.

[@gbone7581]

You have to be mad to invest in something that can just be taken away!

[@SCM0NDT]

What do you invest in? Everything will be taken away....you cannot take it with you. Just drink your money and have fun

[@RandB_Aquatics]

investing and stealing are two different things. If you invest we dont take anything but colonial properties are not for the whites to keep.

[@jennymisteqq5399]

How could anyone trust owning anything Zimbabwe? It’s not a functional government. Zimbabwe has seized property on the whims of political leaders. How could you trust that god forsaken place, ever!

[@wendylinemuvhevhi9622]

God help us bring back the famers and revive our country again , do the needful ,work together in oneness and forgiveness🙏🙏

[@khayasontsele8984]

I suspect a similar situation will eventually happen in South Africa. It will be better for all concerned to get around a table and find a willing and equitable solution to redistribute land rather sooner than later. This whole mess is a ticking time bomb. Ultimately, whether we like it or not, the wrongs that happened 150 years ago in Southern Africa will not go away silently - in letting sleeping dogs lie fashion. The system instituted by colonialists at that time is not sustainable. Southern Africa has some 200 million inhabitants. To hang onto a belief that the current distribution and “ownership” of both arable land and mineral rich land is fair and sustainable is a pipe dream. It can be salvaged with proper planning and willing participation. Without neither, it will likely explode in everyone’s face.

[@caimanbateleurgroup8104]

Unfortunately human beings let situations explode in their face first before they can discuss inequality or redress.

[@kathyohara6658]

And yet the redistribution in Zimbabwe resulted in the leaders wife snatching numerous prosperous farms that were feeding the entire nation, now sitting idle. Until the current leader, there was very little agriculture for more than a decade. Trees were chopped down for firewood sales, including established fruit orchards. Farms should be farmed by farmers reguardless of skin shades. The whole nation benefits from food.

[@khayasontsele8984]

Respectfully, whoever thinks what happened in Zimbabwe was redistribution of land is mistaken. We must be careful not to repeat what happened in that country. It is exactly the ticking time bomb I am referring to. What stopped a civil war there, is that the landowners at the time did not put up a fight, against the land grabs. Had the farmers put up a fight; Zimbabwe would have burnt and many would have lost their lives. Mugabe’s wife snatching 5 farms for herself is exactly what happens in an unfriendly war like dispute over resources; rather than a carefully planned, and carefully executed strategy of reconciliation with willing parties. The “guerrilla” war that played out there is no different from any other post colonial take over in Africa. If anything, if Zimbabwe does not show improvement internally, black Zimbabweans will eventually start taking land away from each other. This is the ruin and chaos that often accompanies the exist of colonialism. Zimbabwe is no different in this regard. The rest of Southern Africa must heed the lessons now. But equitable distribution of land and its resources is necessary and inevitable. It is the hard reality of the future.

[@khayasontsele8984]

When one deals in bad faith… expect poor outcomes. In the aftermath, blame the right people to get to the bottom of the issue. Emotions aside, the truth is that Britain negotiated in bad faith in 1979 and renegaded on its part of the resettlement agreement signed at Lancaster House. I still assert that farmers seeking compensation for their assets in Zimbabwe must hold the British government to account. If they had adhered to their end of the 10 year deal to progressively compensate and institute reforms, most of what happened in Zimbabwe could have been avoided. But Zimbabwe is not dead. 25 or so years from now, it will flourish again. Hopefully on a more sustainable and happier basis going forward. There are very important lessons to be learnt from the Zimbabwe experience, no matter what side of the fence we sit on.

[@kelvinmarwizi8769]

It's a different story Zimbabweans fought for the land South Africans were fighting to be allowed to toy toy strikes.

[@tonymuko6747]

Where was property rights and the rule of law when the British South Africa Company and Cecil Rhodes forcibly took land from the locals

[@Mukurumbira]

By that you could argue, Lobengula and the Mashonas - how far do you want to go to see that is a revolving door?

[@user-lt6or7sy9j]

2nd and 3rd generation whites are considerable as Zimbabweans and just had to be treated as such.e everything else was just reverse racism/apartheid

[@anthonyrose7576]

Good question I want to see them answer it

[@karlphillips8310]

We had friends who were forced to leave Zimbabwe and they told us that Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa and could have fed a lot of Africa. Through corruption, illegal land grabs and malitia and forced evacuations, not only did the farmers lose out, but the farm workers lost their jobs and the whole society/country lost out. It was such a wonderful country, accept that things needed to change and more land given up but it could have been done properly, legitimately and in a controlled fashion so everyone benefitted. All that experience has gone, all those jobs have now gone, all that food self-sufficiency has gone, for what? The whole country is a lot poorer and I'm not sure it will ever fully recover to the glory days, because who is going to invest when those that invested in the past had it all taken away from them. All that wealth squandered. You can talk about the wrongs in the past, but you can't change them, compensation is a poor man's way of paying that debt. A far better way to pay for the wrongs of the past is to pay forward, and make the whole country better for everyone and forgive. That is the way, the only way ahead that gives the youth and future generations a way out of the mess the country now finds itself in. Beware, don't sell your country to China for a few gold coins, your country is worth more than that.

[@valentineisraelshabangu4069]

But thus how your forefathers acquired the land raping, using militias and forceful removals.

[@karlphillips8310]

@@valentineisraelshabangu4069 World history is full of war, rape, militias and forceful removals, nothing is going to change the past, but we can change the future.

[@airtananosum701]

Sanctions are what killed our economy not land reform.

[@777dragonborn]

This is why Rhodesians was sold out and stabbed in the back by Britain and U.S it was so successful it's weather and power was a threat to their currency . So instead prop it up by low i.q communist blacks that keep everything in the shit for everyone. Never forget what happened to Rhodesia Libya ,Iraq and now Ukraine same thing happening it's all a big money game and common man pays the price Not the global elites .

[@billh.1940]

Good point, but in America, only money counts. We will sell it to china and Russia. Pity.

[@DewaldKirsten]

Having visited Zim last year to film some stuff, my eyes were opened. Its an INCREDIBLE place and it really is on the up, but very slowly.

[@IsaacZim544]

Where is the film and what is the title?

[@RyanFoxhound]

Key word veery slowly...

[@DewaldKirsten]

@@IsaacZim544 It was all for internal use and not for public viewing unfortunatly

[@paulochaves5827]

Yes if it was any slower it would be going backwards 😃

[@russellstoffberg6331]

Upload your videos.

[@geoffreylotz3661]

Excellent video - basically this is why all 4 of my sons and I have left South Africa....6 generations in Africa and still unwelcome in our own land.

[@RandB_Aquatics]

its not your land nomatter how many generations. you colonised zimbabweans

[@freemanchimanga7520]

Good to hear. Please spread the athem for all land grabbers to follow suit

[@colinwatson2008]

Everybody forgets the Koi people who were the original inhabitants before those bongolos who came from zululand a few years before whites

[@HugeStirz]

@@RandB_Aquatics Like blacks in Europe then, we should take their properties

[@ExcessiveVisas]

It was never your land your ancestors stole the land

[@eugenedevilliers1841]

So So So Sad,the same is about to happen in South Africa....

[@MrSiasman]

Hartseer. Go Willie Spies:)

[@petroshingalana8556]

What has been done to these farmer's! Was wrong in God's ways! And will! There is no! Blessings at this point! To any one! Who has done! This! Show me any Blessings from God over this matter! But I want to say to these farmer's THERE IS A GOD, AND HE WILL DO HIS JUSTICE AND HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS!! My husband was also a farmer in His County Zimbabwe

[@giventimes]

You start speaking about God when it's your side hell of double standards you

[@melissacalderwell2453]

Zimbabwe is a beautiful Country 😍! Moving there to our farm it’s nice safe and lovely people!

[@barbaraannelangridge3930]

I hope the farm you moved to you have legal rights to occupy, rather than a farm that formerly belonged to an evicted commerical farmer who has yet to be compensated. I could not imagine putting myself in that situation.

[@gbone7581]

Those lovely people will steal your farm.

[@afrofy2431]

No honour amongst THIEVES life 101

[@blockbastermovies3155]

I also got a farm participated in the bumper harvest last year and we overproduced wheat now after fish production in our new farm in Wedza it's not easy but we have young vibrant workers pushing for only the best

[@MarwaFamily888]

@@gbone7581 we addressed a wrong that occurred in 1890, now everyone is safe and many white commercial farmers are back thriving!

[@princetate1586]

Makamama

[@tg-us3hw]

The guy who had a letter of no interest got done dirty. but as a general principle, land reform had to happen.

[@duncanthorne4858]

More than 50% of the farms were bought after independence and by law had to have to certificate of no interest for the sale to proceed. Most farmers had them. This "land redistribution" was pure theft and when the British tried to fund real land redistribution the funds were stolen by the GoZ.

[@carringtonndhlovu6145]

Great video. Private property rights should be protected ✍🏾

[@richmorekchivakira3397]

Private property rights , where did they get the land . Where are their receipts of buying this land that solely belongs to me and other black people

[@petroshingalana8556]

They are liaers! Steeling time...and more time!!

[@hopscotch30]

And Zimbabweans now live in Utopia? Without decent food, hospitals, working economy....? You are mistaken. As are all African people looking backward with the past as the most important time, the present to difficult to understand and the future non existent. Non existent future... Africa.

[@freemanchimanga7520]

Its a 2 sided complex issue , my grandparents went to war for land and animals taken forcibly by settlers , so my question is why go to war if the settlers legally owned the land and animals, anything acquired pre-chimurenga was stolen .any farmer who bought land after independence should be fully compensated. Fellas who inherited land and animals prior to chimurenga please check wit British government for compensation.

[@s.wvazim6517]

Good point they they took from people there before them.

[@retrogamedreamer8761]

So very sad. Wonderful place but ruined. Completely ruined. This happens time and time and time again all over Africa.

[@barbaraannelangridge3930]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/opaYg3ufoMZsZpI All men being interviewed. As a Zimbabwean woman formerly married to a farmer, not only did we suffer the brutality of farm evictions, beatings, theft of personal effects, but we were cast out without a cent and are not considered entitled to any sort of recognition when it comes to these court cases. Not only did we loose our homes, but our rights, identity and community. The trauma and violence, and subsequent abandonment has wreaked havoc on many people.

[@tanakandlovu7169]

Zimbabwe is only for black people there’s no white Zimbabwean

[@not.likely]

We were there, we know what you went through. We were deployed to many farms

[@barbaraannelangridge3930]

@@not.likely I would love to hear your story. I dont want to excuse anyone for thier actions, and its all complicated, but I know I could never take part in the sort of violence that occured against commercial farmers. Many of whom became internalised refugees or died from long term associated post traumatic stress disorder.

[@not.likely]

@@barbaraannelangridge3930 we had no part in the violence

[@barbaraannelangridge3930]

@@not.likely I'm curious what "deployed" means........ the only deployment on our farm eviction was military, police, former veterans and members of political party such as our local MP.

[@cryptostormer2512]

The History of Central Banking and the Enslavement of Humanity - Stephan Goodson

[@princenyaanwa6364]

Graham Ray , I worked for him currently settled in Zambia ( Zambezi Ranching and Cropping Lmtd

[@BluntTale]

I want to hire some of these farmers for a farm I'm buying in Paraguay.

[@texasexpat5677]

Every where in the world where they have let land expropriation happen it has led to a wrecking of the countries agriculture economy. In the case of africa everywhere they have expropriated and run the whites off has led to massive poverty, no rule of law and a general colapse of the country. Currently they are doing their best to kill off white farm owners in south africa And from what I can see the same movement is gaining momentum in namibia. The third world never seems to learn these lessons although u.s. agriculture has been under indirect attack for years with the govt turning a blind eye.

[@akinwumiakindahunsi7254]

"....xpropriation without compensation...." I'd like to ask what compensation was given to the native inhabitants when Europeans took over the land in question? Slave labour?

[@Waynedzobo]

If our leaders played it smart by not chasing away these farmers probably we would be having better harvest from able farmers by the way learn how to run things from those who know before chasing them away but why chase them in the first place it's quite repulsive to me how things were done it's not really strategic

[@dingahaban2288]

Have some dignity man, farming isn't rocket science. Who is it that worked these fields in the heat of the day whilst the whites sat in the shade with cold beers and boerwors?

[@dingahaban2288]

@@robertpicton1 Perhaps you didn't get the memo: Possession is 90 percent of the law. If Africans want to build gigantic bowling alleys on THEIR ancestral lands, so be it. It is none of your business. "Farming is science" lol. Indeed to a certain extent. But we both know the Rhodesian farmers were heavily subsidized by the government. They also had access to virtually interest free loans which the Africans don't. White farmers also had cheap labour, Africans being worked like slaves by cruel farmers who brutalised them with impunity, being a law unto themselves. Don't try and pretend white farmers are indespensible, agricultural production has reached record levels in the last few years. We know commercial farmers around the world are heavily subsidized, in the USA they receive up 80 percent subsidies! You make it sound like your evil Rhodesians fed the nation when in reality they grew crops for the export market, externalizing their profits which no African benefited from.

[@dingahaban2288]

@@robertpicton1 The movement of Africans within Africa isn't any of your concern either. Your western hegemons imposed economic sanctions to try and get some pliant puppet into power. 22 years later, the resolve of the Zimbabweans still holds true, and Zanu PF is stronger than ever. The imperialists miscalculated by trying to sell cheap lies and gross exagerations to a population that boasts 98 percent literacy. Lol

[@petroshingalana8556]

Hold on to your Title! Sir, for their is a God...

[@skinscapetattoo]

A complex, many layered historical injustice issue that must be addressed in South Africa too, I only hope we find a more constructive way to redress it

[@petero7937]

My uncle bought a farm in the eighties from the Mugabe govt and it was brutally stolen from him and the police did nothing. Nobody trusts that country anymore.

[@Phobos77777]

Bull shit!

[@dingahaban2288]

Who negotiates with thieves? The damage done to the African mind remains untold indeed.

[@Phobos77777]

@@dingahaban2288 🤣

[@petero7937]

@@dingahaban2288 Yup how could they negotiate with a regime that steals like mugabe and crocodile

[@Zinhle314]

That’s our forefather’s land, they’re never paid anything. Moved them to reserves, that was your law created by your fathers not our grandfathers’

[@rhonareza1298]

The land issues is a closed deal Zimbabwe belongs to Zimbabweans

[@s.wvazim6517]

Of all races not just zanu pf and there families

[@tulonga.takali3193]

You do not understand anything about what it takes for economic growth and employment. I feel sorry for that mentality.

[@moirapettifr7127]

Those white people were Zimbabweans too.

[@mnp3713]

@@moirapettifr7127 i think some of them atleast, would still consider them self as rhodesian not Zimbabwean. That was my expirience living there in the early 90'ties. I was back in 2017 and the whites i met did consider them self as Zimbabweans

[@planet263suweta4]

The Big Question is Were you happy that Zimbabweans were living in the arid rural areas which they were forced to occupy by your ancestors in 1800s? And if you want this land back, what about the natives? Leave Zimbabwe land for the Black Zimbabweans. Why cant you get farms in the UK?

[@gregmcmurray6112]

Remember the saying "Shifty Shona"??? Never trust a shina, they're sly and untrustworthy!!!! At least an ndebele will be straight with you!!!!!

[@MichaelPetersFenwicks]

Avenue of engagement is full of injustice. Common sense has to be prevail.

[@timothymakufa1051]

Qq

[@richmorekchivakira3397]

No restitution , we would rather chose who we want to work with in our land and we will put you on contract farming renewable 10 years atlist

[@fortula.tichwagoramuog8784]

What is international.The West and do you think they care about the interest of Africa!A big no!!!!

[@grahamt5924]

Just maintain sanctions on Zimbabwe

[@not.likely]

It is because of your un-international approach, that you black Zimbabweans are not acceptable to the international community. You are acceptable only to your own thinking, your own mentality. You don't see, consider or respect other people's views. You don't want to go forward, you wish only to squat in your ditch. Therefore, they don't respect you. You cast out the whites, now the world has cast you out. You are the new beggars and outcasts and you will stay that way untill your minds open. Your lack of accomplishment reflect a culturally backward, uneducated and spiritually diminished tribal mentality. By yourselves, you have proved that you have no way forward, either for yourselves or to make any contribution to the world. You can keep your land, which you can't feed yourselves off, you can keep your minerals which you can't add value to and you can sleep all day like dogs in a manger. The world will continue to pass you by

[@cyberphox1]

👍

[@msi4063]

I love all people regardless of race or creed. However this isn’t a serious issue until we can discuss compensation for my Gogos and Kulus who remember being displaced and tortured under @Rhodesia. First in. First out. Why does one group get to bankrupt the country again??

[@watkinsrory]

The country went bankrupt because of the government and its continuous greed and corruption will keep it bankrupt until you kick them out of office and vote in someone who is more trustworthy.

[@watkinsrory]

@@CorpusChristi-j8x And what of the farms that were paid for after Independence? Your point is mute because it has nothing to do with when the farm was paid for its all about race.

[@grahamt5924]

@@CorpusChristi-j8x Why shouldn't citizens of Zimbabwe be able to own land?

[@seanperrings8460]

​@@grahamt5924they don't own it now, just saying

[@watkinsrory]

@@seanperrings8460 You you think thats a good thing?

[@leemuchingami2051]

You establish a Tenure system that was based on one's race. Its a matter of kettle calling another kettle black and white

[@petero7937]

My uncle left SA in the eighties and bought a farm from the mugabe govt. It was stolen by the regimes racist thugs. Zimbabwe will be cursed like Haiti

[@jamesmccann355]

Zambia and Mozambique seem better options. You could build a trade corridor. Mozambique has a coast line and both have unlimited agricultural potential.

[@ziyaizarura1842]

Sei varungu vese vachida kunzwirwa tsitsi but they’re the most forgettable what they’ve done ✔️

[@dwalaisthename]

thats true but they do have a point , the Zimbabwean government was racist and they messed with the law which to the situation we are in now. hurumende ndeyekumama

[@olsaffa7679]

Take the people who did wrong to court and leave others alone. And stop grouping people by skin colour and not citizenship. That's racism

[@clem5474]

@@dwalaisthename I can equally say the same for the Rhodesian government was even more racist. Think of why the Reserves were created, ratinoti Ruzeva these days, purely concentration camps. Zvavakaita kumadzi sekuru ne madzimbuya edu ngatisakanganwei because tane magetsi.

[@clem5474]

@@dwalaisthename And to your point of the law. Whose Law? Who created that Law? Who was that Law created for?

[@kulhemhlongo]

​@@dwalaisthename the problem with you,you want to forget how the land they claim to be theirs was obtained let's start there the then state legalised settlers to take land why should the current govt pay for their land ?

[@rooy2729]

If this would comfort you to know... Even the blacks in those reserves you created, are now being made homeless by the gvt as they are being chased away from those lands... No one is safe in zimbabwe... You are far better becoz u arw getting those compensation. Blacks are not fortunate enough to get the support to fight the gvt

[@kumbiektw]

I just pray and hope that you are white…please be white so I can not say bad things about your ancestors if you turn to be black?

[@gollygosh40]

sad, everybody lose

[@anthonykirk9174]

The land was stolen from the original owners.They didn't pay for it so why should they receive payment for it's return.

[@rodgerhargoon3402]

Thank God India got its independence from the British in 1948 after 300 long terrible years ..

[@richmorekchivakira3397]

It's our land and we needed it ba k and we got it back , were sorry if we took it wrongly but we needed it back

[@ledwinmampho1861]

Are you sure. Because the real history of the ownership of that land can be backdated to Maphungubwe Kingdom.

[@paulkumz100]

Dont worry about Zimbabwe settlers, we are doing very well farming our land!

[@hairepy]

Exactly, let’s not forget all their injustices against the continent.

[@youtubeacc6059]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🦍

[@petero7937]

And you still need food aid year after year

[@dingahaban2288]

@@petero7937 "Don't try and foist food on us, we don't want to choke" - Robert Mugabe, circa. 2011CE. Lol

[@sirjusticemarumisa4758]

My heart bleeds like anyone who sees human suffering I personally as Zimbabwean of colour.But the vast majority in which these white owned farms where obtained was equally as brutal and often just as worse.This one gentleman who inherited a farm in 1894 .how did there obtain them. In a very violent manner and there never compansaited the African pple and their descendants.My Grand father is still alive today he is 96 yrs old and never got a single dime from the then rhodisian gvn after moved from his land in masvingo over 60 yrs.two wrongs don't make a right but neither is tell half truths.

[@davidroux7987]

You make baseless assumptions in line with your prejudice.

[@Bantu-860]

@@davidroux7987 There's been so many Redpilled stories to the point where Africans should know better. We all know YOU European Caucasians don't relate well with people that don't look like you. When people like you want something from an African you want to take what someone (Africa) does without embracing someone as a person. You, people, strive to divide and rule. Always against nature, gender-bending race, never stick to the truth. Either you get a ticket to that country made up of rivers (Netherlands) or you behave because you are nothing but a guest in Africa. In South Africa, we are just waiting for RICS to get their house in full throttle to come August at the BRICS summit. After the 2024 Election onwards you settlers you'll know where you belong.

[@clem5474]

@@davidroux7987 There we go. This guy actually made a well-balanced argument. What he said is true. My grandfather suffered the same fate. Kicked off his land and was shipped to a reserve (concentration camp). However, though I sympathize with these white Zimbabweans, as a black Zimbabwean, I believe this is only half the story.

[@clem5474]

@@davidroux7987 And how do you think the white settlers got that land to begin with, "Bought it".. 😂

[@rockrabbit253]

@@clem5474 The original owners were the San. How do you think the black settlers got the land ?

[@nickolay6277]

I think everyone, maybe except of the Commercial Farmers' Union, saw and addressed the need for a after-independence land reform in Zimbabwe. It's not about that - land reform needed to be done. But it's about how was it done. Land reforms have been made in almost every civilized country in the world at some point of the history. But for sure, nowhere, anywhere, ever it was done in such a horrendous, terrible and primitive fashion than in Zimbabwe. The whole process was a gigantic failure from the start. After 20+ years, Zimbabwe is still suffering from the consequences of it and probably will for decades or even generations to come. Had it been done in correct and civilized manner, the country would still be the bread basket of the continent and net exporter. Zimbabwe has such a huge potential to be a thriving, model African country, but politically everything has been so fucked up for so long that soon it becomes too late to change the course.

[@mimi-pb5gn]

Was colonization civilized? Africa is wealthy in so many aspects but has no control over the prices of the wealth they hold. Do you really think civilization will get results? Look at how people had to fight for independence despite the colonizers being “from the civilized” communities but abused and ill-treated other fellow human beings because of color.

[@RandB_Aquatics]

the land wasnt taken away from us in a civilized manor aswell. The only reason why we are suffering is because the thieves are the ones in control of world order so who ever is woke gets to suffer and be labeld monsterous .

[@s.wvazim6517]

​@@mimi-pb5gnit was when Rome came to uk Arabs to west africa and and rhodes north of the limpopo

[@tobiaschirova4481]

Nothing for y Guys this is Our land

[@schalkspies288]

SA a decade down the road...😢

[@dingahaban2288]

Good, the Africans will finally restore their dignity when they repossess their ancestral birthright - the land.

[@amerikanatv1523]

It's not nice to take peoples' land from them by force ey??

[@airtananosum701]

😂😂😂 so traumatic eyy?

[@HansCoche]

Especially if they've spent hundreds of thousands building it, just to get destroyed by ignorant grifters.

[@DrMerle-gw4wj]

I think they made a movie about all of this. It was called "Planet of the Apes".

[@paulochaves5827]

Now the Zimbabweans have redistributed themselves throughout South Africa wonder why they don't eat the land they took 🤔?

[@mongiwazulu1991]

there are many successful back farmers who have benefitted from land reform . colonisation education system taught us to be workers teachers , administrators however I'm glad there's a gradual shift in terms of perception. we will get there slowly but surely.

[@mrsemme9533]

Land was taken by politicians not ordinary people

[@robinanderson1115]

WHO TOOK WHO'S LAND FIRST??

[@paulochaves5827]

@@robinanderson1115 Nobody took anybodies land . Land ownership is a western concept before the colonizers came to Africa land was fought over conquered. Shaka Zulu killed over 200.000 people in his expansion war .

[@kumbiektw]

You miss the point…as long as any Zimbabwean and every other African is black…they can travel and settle anywhere in Africa because we have been known to be nomadic…Africa was border less until the white man came.

[@user-mr6yt6nw6p]

Wat van Oom Dries?

[@paulochaves5827]

Zimbabwe was the bread basket of Africa now its the basket case of Africa 😂

[@psmith708]

Sounds like Rosewood and Tulsa in the U.S

[@Elpatron242]

Did u come with Land in Zimbabwe, u come with papers not land , we dnt care weather we struggling or hunger as long we have what is ours

[@xray6667]

Anything for free and no deadline on this free for all.Going on to this day.Make it nice clean smart and productive and the Vulrures will Land

[@albertoseibeb9123]

Deeper please

[@brianjackson38]

I think Mugabe and the Zimbabwean government only jumped in, to take credit for a process that had naturally initiated itself. The wheels were already turning on a land issue, that the Commercial Farmers Union complacently neglected. Instead of prolonged petty arguments with politicians, they were supposed to create a 50 or 100 year agricultural land plan. The World Food Economy is vast, I'm sure Zimbabwe's white commercial farmers had all the brainpower needed to avoid a point-break situation, the political will is what was lacking. I hope South Africa finds a better path than the one Zimbabwe stakeholders took, the entire region now relies on its stability and rational decisions.

[@phillipjacobs7691]

This is coming to south africa...

[@TatendaChigogora-qc8yl]

Our people died for this land. Zero sympathy for land thieves.

[@theobotha7439]

Explain yourself " our people died for this land" who where when

[@InitialRelic593]

Ok I under the current landowners issues. But that land was stolen and then given to them, So who owns the land. How do we solve that issue of the original indigenous who are still alive who were kicked off their land?? They are living in areas they were up rooted to. Maybe a solution would have been like what Australia is doing. That the current users or the land pay a royalty from the profits to the indigenous?? But even that system has holes in it but i think its far much better than the path these guys took.

[@shaqashaqahimself1866]

The hypocrisy is beyond me. How did you get the land? I think it is a good point to start solving this issue.

[@olsaffa7679]

Are you holding people today accountable to history? Are you going to hold the Zulu accountable today too, or are you just a racist?

[@LeonKotze70]

How far back into history are you willing to go?????? I bet only as far as what will suit your story.

[@shaqashaqahimself1866]

@@olsaffa7679 It's funny that you are talking about racism. Everyone should be accountable their wrongdoings regardless of the context. How did they get the land to expect compensation?

[@olsaffa7679]

@Shaqa Shaqahimself Yes, everyone should be held accountable, but not the innocent. How can you judge a person today for stuff s/he had nothing to do with? Protect the law and the law will protect you.

[@givy450]

@@olsaffa7679 Who had made that law and to protect who? Double standards !!

[@andrewchizemo2305]

Yes policy environment is not there.

[@paulines581]

What do they mean by 'my invaders?'

[@daw60-gx3fo]

Where was the vocal international voice when the mafia state ran amok...unfortunately, so predictably

[@truth-Hurts375]

They know the facts...you dont !!!

[@olsaffa7679]

​@@truth-Hurts375 No, you and the racist EFF don't.

[@daw60-gx3fo]

The same facts I suppose as the recent international study that listed Zimbabweans as the most miserable nation in the world...all despite an amazing government and sound policies...?

[@dingahaban2288]

​@@daw60-gx3foWe will be miserable IN OUR LAND. Don't shed tears for us, lol.

[@majestic4124]

I have never heard black people claim land in the west Europe the worst part is these farmers are talking as if whatever they farmed was for the Zimbabwean population. No they are talking about farming produce exported to their countries of origin Europe

[@olsaffa7679]

You saying there's no people from Africa who owns property in Europe? You're just being racist

[@munyabrownn]

Amen!

[@KillingItForYears]

Black people who own homes in Europe have their property rights protected.

[@teek1860]

@@KillingItForYears black people who owned their land before the colonizer came had no protection of their land, whites drove them out forcefully. Killing many natives in the process.

[@airtananosum701]

Preach!!

[@harrison6808]

When you say the rule of law - whose laws are you talking about?

[@junaidzakaria1362]

How much bribery is involved when you purchase land and destroyed jungle to become rich. Or millionaire.

[@richmorekchivakira3397]

With all due resoect we will not give you back our land

[@duka6915]

I mean, it was not your land either, when they come there probably was a big nothing.

[@tinashe-back-to-roots]

As a College student, I do not know if it is appropriate to do this. I just feel like the way white Farmers were chased away from Zim was harsh, so for my future sake as a youth I apologize to all white farmers who were chased out of Zim in a harsh way 😢

[@takudzwajoseph6113]

What about our forefathers who died for that land ......

[@mimi-pb5gn]

What of our grandparents who were killed and forced into infertile communal land and lost a great deal of wealth and freedom through inhuman treatment? So losing land is sad but what of colonization?

[@mongiwazulu1991]

you have a selective memory .our grandfather's were killed and generations displaced . we never got compensation or even an apology.

[@kumbiektw]

To you young sir…we need to start educating you because the education system that was left by the coloniser is the biggest problem that make us see our kings like you thinking like imbeciles.I feel sorry for you young man and all I can say is you need to understand your history quickly before you are damaged goods.

[@dingahaban2288]

What kind of college student are you? You really need to think harder before you embarrass yourself like this.

[@martinndlovu6010]

Naaaaah !!!

[@ourclassicmovies1929-es1jd]

I MISS IAN SMITH

[@tawandamarufu]

Miss him more

[@danielvanzyl3418]

Ask the question: Who outside of Zim benifit from Zims demise? You'll find the answer in the west...

[@thokongwenya565]

I concur. I live in the USA ( am from Zim and Zambia)

[@xray6667]

Can't talk of Laws with Lawless Mafia of criminals out for themselves.

[@ephraimmkandawire1992]

It's sad that these stories when they are told, they intentionally omit the crimes that were perpetrated by the so-called "great grandfathers" that supposedly owned the land. Who was resident on the land before that? Why is it that the beneficiaries of large scale theft of land are playing victim and the world is listening yet the real victims of land theft are deemed unreasonable? This is just wrong in whatever perspective. The land belongs to the native Zimbabweans and not naturalised Europeans who have claimed citizenship through criminal plunder of our people. This documentary can do better by showing the consequences of theft their fore fathers committed on our people

[@munyabrownn]

Unfortunately for those who bought farms fair and square, I think should be reimbursed! What bothers me are the ones that forcibly chased my grandparents off their lands that we have a problem with. I have one living grand parent left and she keeps talking about those pieces of lands whenever we are driving to our home village. Even my Mom still talks about it. I'm sorry for the ones who lost what they worked for ... Let's work together for better benefit to all not just one sided.

[@LujoSey]

It's a waste time to think that the white supremacy will see things from such a balanced position. They believe Africa was a ravine discovered by themselves. Look we are OK with our suffering right now as Zimbabweans, albeit with our dignity

[@airtananosum701]

They bought the farms from the Rhodesian government not the black government. Come on now. Have our black grandparents and parents who’s land was stolen been reimbursed? Why do we have to erase the trauma and pain of the black people? Are the white people’s pain more important than ours?

[@kathyohara6658]

This has to be the most sensible comment I have seen anywhere since this began in 2000. There are two sides to this and there needs to be a way forward for both, without corruption or profiteering by just a few select.

[@LujoSey]

The question then arises, what of those who bought from those who forcibly took off your grandparents? Is not that legally speaking, buying stolen property?

[@munyabrownn]

@@LujoSey it is buying stolen property unfortunately too. You have a point

[@freedom661100]

Let the blacks have the land and if they want to sell buy it back with papers and now it will be yours. Sucks but would be satisfying for all.

[@user-jr2ue9nu6y]

They must try that kak here. The Boere are waiting

[@yankiefrenz1367]

😂😂 you cant do anything

[@lilokuhn7464]

regtig mense julle lewe in n droom wereld

[@markashdown1314]

What an error moving there.

[@chasuramatope]

The Zimbabwean government will not pay anything. I do not agree with the way the land was taken but its already done. It is time to move on. Zimbabwe has done very well to reverse the colonial imbalance. In the long run the country will belong to African people.

[@johnone6159]

They should just get their money from the British government which brought them to Zimbabwe.

[@emmzmunjoma2603]

Support me to become Zimbabwean president and will end all your cries!

[@nicosekano5942]

they expect people to feel sorry for them ?

[@MrK-wu7ci]

00:58 "My name is Willie Spies and I've been involved with the 'Zimbabwen farmers' and the struggles to 'restore the rule of law' for more than 15 years." The 'rule of law' being stealing the land back from the Zimbabwean people who have effectively redistributed the land. As usually they're full of hubris and entitlement. They're not talking about compensating the farmworkers for over a century of being unpaid/underpaid.

[@s.wvazim6517]

Fun fact the majority of farm workers left once the white guy left he was treated better by the mrungu.

[@MrK-wu7ci]

@@s.wvazim6517 "Fun fact the majority of farm workers left once the white guy left he was treated better by the mrungu." More self-aggrandizing fantasyland.

[@idy386]

all of this could have been avoided if the farmers and the settler community were nice to the natives. sad it had to end this way

[@s.wvazim6517]

Most of them were it was mugabe loosing the mock election he panicked and did what he did fun fact almost 99% of farms taken over went to government officials and not to the common people they got lied to

[@mr.centrist5789]

It's still the natives fault for chasing them away. Now look at the natives.😅

[@idy386]

@@mr.centrist5789the natives have moved on

[@mr.centrist5789]

@@idy386 the SAD state of their country doesn't show that.

[@AugustineChad]

CFU is to blame for all this…

[@chronikhavok3407]

It was due to desperation of the people l think coz black people are suffering all over africa due to land

[@ds-kj8fq]

Why should they pay you for something that was stolen when a crooks would compensate

[@melon9680]

I doubt you ever read a book let alone a history book but let me be the one to educate you, that back in the day, land was occupied by whomever was strongest. Africans did it to eachother too, why is it a problem if it was somebody else? As an African with good education, unlike our many many ignorant peers, African pride has only thrown the black man back, as if putting food on the table for your child comes second. The arrogance would make the Devil blush. You don't see Europeans constantly bicker over what areas of Europe belong to whom, not even the west. Perhaps learn from those who are successful, than bitch and moan, like black people tend to do. It's old and it's pathetic.

[@factandtruth1022]

Cause you cant do piss for yourself anyway

[@leemuchingami2051]

Its funny how they say they own land that they obtained after 1890. Why are you not talking about the poor blacks that were chased away from their pieces of land. Can we also discus the land apportionment Act,Land Tenure Act etc. U had to come up with laws to sanitize racism and land grab. Kindly refer to the Lancaster House Conference Whatever happened happened from 1890-1980 so you say

[@lurikaschubert5362]

You have now taken back the land without compensation and chased all the white farmers away...... now it is 25+ years later ...so how did it work out for your black Zim.population or am I just missing the headlines of all the prosperous farms you've started?

[@niconkola9314]

Taking somebody property by force is total wrong Zimbabwean god is watching

[@hairepy]

😅😅 Wasn’t Gof watching during slavery? Or the colonization of almost every country in Africa but 2? All how the Congo’s were killed by Belgiu, or South African Apartheid? You people forget so soon. He only watches in these small things not the horrid world wide genocide against Black people in African and the Diaspora or even in Europe.

[@niconkola9314]

@@hairepy we don't live pastes

[@robinanderson1115]

AS U SOW _ _ _.

[@estellenieuwenhuis8757]

Same is happening in South Africa

[@dingahaban2288]

Good, it's about time.

[@mr.centrist5789]

​@@dingahaban2288and the people will starve because of it. 😅

[@dingahaban2288]

@@mr.centrist5789 That old nugget "you will starve". Zimbabweans are still there, they did not die off. lol. A cheap threat to discourage Africans not to get their land. BTW, Zimbabweans are not starving, the past few years have seen record harvests far surpassing the Rhodie vermin who were heavily subsidized by the Rhodesian government, had access to dirt cheap bank loans and a semi-slave, dirt cheap captive labour force. You also need to disabuse yourself of the notion that these white farmers were feeding anyone because they grew mostly cash crops (flowers, tobacco, wheat, fruit, vegetables etc) for the export market. Black Zimbabweans fed themselves from the poor land they had been fenced into by you racists, they even sent what little surplus they had to the Grain Marketing Board. South Africans need to know that revolutions are not easy, getting their land might be painful at first because white supremacy will fight and sanction, but in the long run it will be worth it. They have to learn to separate the concept of ownership and usage. Possession is 90% of the law and that is the first thing they should do. After establishing ownership, they can do with it as they please without the racists insinuating themselves into the issue.

[@bonganimasuku871]

African land with the indigenous people is not land ownership

[@dianahicks9712]

It sound like the same thing I did take land it wasn't yours Don't cry now go home