Land Rover Defender L663 Reverse light upgrade v2 - New Plinth + Dual Light Function !

[@L663]

This was filmed in the summer - hence the shorts - but the stock has only just arrived. These are for sale on our website www.powerfuluk.com/catalogsearch/result?q=llm804

[@bugjuicer]

I love how you add extra little bits like additional clips, cos you'll probably lose some. It's the lil things that count. 11/10

[@chrissherman4357]

Love the video and how you go into such detail and even educate us on every little detail that isn’t even related to what your video is about. All of those related and non related explanations really help us understand everything that goes into that piece. When you show us the real installation process and all the little things that can go wrong, that is real world and it helps. Can you show us the reverse lights and how the video looks with them on in the dark? Thanks again.

[@tonywheelybarrow]

They’d be pretty cool tinted to blend in to 👍🏼. I’ve not even got a defender (want one though) but find this channel interesting, informative and fun 😆

[@L663]

We have actually tweaked the design a little to make the light appear more tinted - we changed the PCB ( printed circuit board ) inside the light unit to be black instead of white so it looks more discrete - but tinted would be another tweak.

[@tmaintv]

Agreed a tinted version would be awesome

[@tomjohns8498]

Educational silliness you and Tyler are my Melcombe & Wise.🤗🤣🇬🇧

[@jaybird8458]

Thank you SO much for making this solution. I just installed them yesterday and your video was instrumental in me being able to do it by myself. These extra reverse lights really solved a problem I’ve had since the first day I had my Defender, the backup camera can hardly see anything at night. Now I can see everything in my backup camera which makes it so much safer.

[@L663]

Hi Jay - we have sold a lot of these and the feedback has been positive - the reverse light is really below par on the Defender which is why we came up with the idea.

[@jijisan01]

Just installed these on a MY2023 D110X and everything went well. Lost two clips, so the extras were much appreciated👍👍 I used painters tape around the edges to protect the PPF, which I think was a good idea. I took John Willett’s suggestion and soldered the connection at the bench. Prior to that I tested the connection by just using wire nuts to hold everything together and plugged it all together. After starting and confirming the positive connection, I soldered, heat shrinked, and taped the whole thing together. As others have already said, the lights make a huge difference in being able to see what’s behind you at night, and just as importantly look factory. Well done Simon and the PowerfulUK Crew!!

[@L663]

Thanks for the review - i think the solder and heat shrink is a nice way to do it. Happy reversing ! Simon

[@johandekock7302]

I juts installed the reverse lights on my Defender 110 It’s absolutely great. Looks like it’s a factory fitted. High quality product and the installation instructions is next level. Thank you so much for your products and videos.

[@L663]

Thanks for the glowing review - happy reversing !

[@stavrosTX]

Just installed these on my wife's '22 Defender 110... she is very happy with the final product. There is now good clear visibility behind the vehicle both in the mirrors and on the cameras. Getting that panel off was no joke the first time, but I used a little piece of tape to mark where the fasteners were on the sides, not the white clips, and doing the second one I push/pry at that spot and it came off much easier.

[@L663]

Happy wife... happy life...those rear corner panels can be tricky to get off the first time.

[@kwawesome]

Right! That panel was no joke..Lol. Same story for me as you. But a great addition to visibility.

[@hedydd2]

Excellent worthwhile and practical addition to the vehicle. With the essential extra safety aspect to clinch it.

[@DJ-nh5lh]

Just finished my install, went quite smoothly. Sheesh those panels are a pain to get off, and definitely feels like you are breaking something in the process. Thank you for the extra clips included also.

[@coreyk288]

A Great Product! Well done gentlemen. Also, thank you for making these videos, I’ve learned a lot about my L663 Defender from your teams work.

[@L663]

Hi - thanks for your comment - even if you are hot fitting any accessories to your car its always good to understand more about your car !

[@channelserf8666]

I just installed these and continue to be very impressed with the build quality of your products. I can't imagine how much LR would charge for these! :-)

[@L663]

Thanks for the comment ! The standard reverse lights on the Defender are not great !

[@michaelkristalinski661]

Simon, was looking at these + the gloss black spoiler, and somehow tapping into the Running lights, so that way, you can have Amber running lights on the spoiler, then can use the reverse lights as intended as well. I bought these for the reverse pocket like you have, but doesn't hurt to have more reverse lights (more cowbell style)

[@Cous1nJack]

I can’t see me buying a defender but I still watch because I like the videos and the problem solving. (I have a hilux 😝)

[@L663]

My first new car was a Hilux 2005 - i still have it and love it...its part of the family as it took on so many holidays when the kids were young.

[@AdventuringDefenders]

Tinkle tinkly tinkle… thank you for including the clips

[@rjbfreelander2]

Looks great. Cracking work. Now for a Freelander 2 version :)

[@simondann111s]

I've just fitted these. Really easy to do. Do the soldering and heat shrink on a bench first, having mounted the lights to the blocks before you do. Make them up as a unit, it's easier to fit them when outside on the vehicle.

[@L663]

Soldering is a good idea - and the white grease adds some extra protection to the connectors. Have you tried them at night yet ?

[@simondann111s]

@@L663 I didn't get any white grease. Yes all working well.

[@johnwillett4086]

Great video (as always) and a really great accessory. 😃 One thing - why not solder the light to the adaptor cable *before* installing the adaptor on the car? Surely you would get a better solder connection on the bench???

[@L663]

Yes its a bit of a puzzle but i think you may have a point.

[@rontaumelscheibe]

What such a perfect upgrade guys!

[@supercrazysane]

Just added these puppies, toughest part for me was separating the original connector, but job done and nicer to fit in the summer when we have daylight hours and sunshine - now all set for autumn/winter - should make life a bit easier and looks great 👍🤓😎

[@L663]

Wise man to add these in the summer ! I think Land Rover has installed the connectors upside down if you look at the design of the connector it holds water and mud in the joint between the 2 halves of the connector...

[@supercrazysane]

@@L663 I was thinking it didn’t seem like the optimum design for a connector 🤔

[@jamesstewart9824]

Hi . I fitted these and am very pleased with the outcome , they make such a huge difference and I can now reverse in the dark without any concerns . I just wanted some feedback from those who have already fitted theirs and have just attached theirs using the double sided tape have they had any problems or is this method strong enough to hold the lights in place . Any feedback would be greatly appreciated .

[@Oxers-KO]

This looks super neat and have added to my wish list - Great job as always.

[@L663]

Hi Kevin - these are selling really well - I think because they solve a problem !

[@Oxers-KO]

@@L663 Hi Simon, I am not surprised they are selling so well - I have just placed an order for the all white ones before they sell out. Looking forward to seeing much better when reversing at night.

[@zoid9969]

It would be nice if the injection-moulded piece had some sort of posts on it that the light pushed on to instead of needing to be screwed on, so you wouldn't have to have the silver-coloured screw heads showing. Or some covers for the screws.

[@L663]

Yes i hear you - some nice little ideas you have.

[@manorbleak1]

What a brilliant idea - love the shorts lol

[@L663]

Yes it was filmed a few weeks ago... when it was hot ... these were the first samples we had in and I did not want to publish the video till we had stocks ! The legs are now put away for anther 10 months !

[@michaeljones9911]

Thank you Simon, fitted to my new defender 2024 model today. Looks amazing and fitting in less than an hour. For interest is there any issues with MOT for these extra lights. My car is a new so a while before I will be able to experience any issues.

[@L663]

Hi Michael. Thanks for your purchase and glad they fitted and worked without problem. There should be no issues with the MOT - my car has been through a MOT with no problems. We have sold a lot of these reverse light upgrades ( over a 1000 sets ! ) and not had any MOT issues. Simon

[@skdoosh9523]

Looks great!

[@peterstewart6594]

Great job boys, but I think I would screw on your fitting to original plastic and not use D/S tape, then when and if you need to remove/ replace it you unscrew fitting then I think it would easier to unclip original plastic trim from vehicle which seems very hard work. Your thoughts on this would be appreciated Thanks Pete

[@L663]

Hi Peter - in this video I do get in a bit of a muddle as to the correct / best order to do this in... other people have made some comments below also. I dont think it needs the screws from the plinth into the car - the tape should be enough.

[@lrjames00]

Just received these and the quality is even better I thought it would be! Thank you! Is there any top tip for weatherproofing wires on the tie-in loom that are not used?

[@L663]

Hi James - good question indeed - I have seen people use heatshrink end caps but not sure where to buy them

[@lrjames00]

@@L663 thanks!

[@guyholbrook4923]

One comment - turns out I had a short when the "extra" wires (I didnt order the turn signal version) was touching another wire even after what i thought was a good electrical tape wrap job. I should have used heat shrink on the extra wires to eliminate that problem.

[@newdefendermods]

Well done team!

[@michaellemarquand3393]

Simon do you have a video on the installation of deployable side steps on a L405? Thanks

[@L663]

Sorry we did not do this - they are expensive so have not tried them !

[@MarksmanMedia]

Question guys: I installed these, followed the directions, triple checked the wiring and soldered them. Neither side activates the indicator light. Reverse works perfect, but nothing with either left/right indicator. What could be the issue or is there some reset required for the LR to recognize the new indicators?

[@MarksmanMedia]

Never mind. Saw he US needs gray/yellow note. You guys should have made that more prominent in the video!! 😡. One little sentence on the order page isn't enough. Show love across the pond!

[@johnswinkels4383]

Well done you poms surprise me.

[@preetsarai]

Boom! Just ordered. Can you also do a cargo tray for the boot?

[@L663]

We have had some thoughts on this.... we are looking at a tray at parcel shelf height.... but getting a secure fixing is tricky.

[@preetsarai]

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[@preetsarai]

Just got the delivery. I haven’t installed them yet, but initial impression is the lights are aimed slightly outwards. The dark spot with the original reverse lights seems to be in the middle (under the spare wheel). Wondering if the lights can be aimed towards the center a bit more to illuminate that dark spot. Anyway will post my impression after I’ve had a chance to test them. Another idea I have is to wire the lights from the trailer hook up. Should be possible to get a pin connector to power aux rear lights.

[@L663]

@@preetsarai Thanks for your comments - they are of course valid points - try the lights and see what you think. We have a connector coming for the trailer socket but that is for a power take off for accessories - i think there could be problems using the light signals from the trailer socket.

[@preetsarai]

@@L663 it would be great if the wiring harness and lights came with a stand male/female connector already prewired in the kit. That would cut the need for soldering bunch of wires.

[@6point3ehl]

i have purchased and installed them. the reverse lights are working but the yellow hazards don’t seem to turn on. i followed your instructions. is there a difference between the US spec car wirint

[@ToddWooden]

Does your rear light that sweeps work in US cars

[@sheepdogman1]

Surly the indicator should be mounted on the door jam below the lock so when open can still be seen??

[@L663]

Fair point - its not ideal but better than standard

[@jimmyquinn9639]

Well done 👍

[@matthewhaddon599]

Good job 👍

[@badshodi]

amazing channel

[@L663]

Glad your enjoying it !

[@joworx]

Nice solution and better than V1! So now you consider to design a light that can cover the whole area/full width? :)

[@L663]

Yes we have a plan for that... its a big project but its an idea we have...

[@supercrazysane]

@@L663 Hi Folks - is there a V3 still on the cards ?

[@bensilva8813]

Any tips for getting the electrical connector unplugged? My Defender is a year old and has plenty of dust. I cannot get the connector unplugged despite cleaning it with a toothbrush. Should I try a lubricant?

[@simonjefferson]

I know this will sound odd but sometimes a firm push together of the connector can help before pulling it apart.

[@alantd44]

Are the ones shown here the same as on the website? Looks like the ones on the website have darker lenses (which I was going to request). Going to order these now. Great work

[@L663]

Hi Alan - if you look super carefully at 3.28 you can see our old light units had a white inner PCB ( printed circuit board ) the new lights all now have a black PCB and so look a little darker.

[@MasochistGarage]

Will these fit a 130?

[@L663]

Yes - sorry for late reply - the 130 is totally the same at the rear.

[@michaeljones9911]

Yes fitted to mine

[@aldojacoboledesma6054]

Hello I buy by mistake an American smoke lights for my Defender but mine use ámbar indicators, so , I wonder if I buy this kit , I can fix my problem having the indicators with revers on them ? Thanks for responde

[@L663]

Yes this should help you

[@carlbeveridge384]

Rather unfortunate to see I was sent V1 when I ordered last month. Getting an upgraded part seems to involve me paying to ship original kit back to the UK at my cost and reordering but V2 is not shown on their website. Feeling a little taken!

[@simonjefferson]

Carl send an email to customer service and we will send you some V2 plinths FREE We love our customers especially our "early adapters" and those who purchase the first parts we make should never be at a disadvantage - but when we upgrade the design we will clearly have some v1 parts in the market. Simon

[@carlbeveridge384]

@@simonjefferson I sent an email and received that response. If there is some way to pass this on to CS that would be great.

[@L663]

@@carlbeveridge384 Leave it with me - is it just the V2 plinths you are after or also the 2 function lamps ? All parts on the website are now V2 and have been for a few weeks www.powerfuluk.com/catalogsearch/result?q=LLM804

[@carlbeveridge384]

@@L663 It’s the two function lamps. I have the V2 plinths.

[@simonjefferson]

@@carlbeveridge384 OK that odd as we launched the V2 plinth with the lights. So which lights do you want White / Orange or White / Red ?

[@WizzardPrang]

Excellent mod.

[@L663]

Glad you like it

[@paulhoppe4596]

Dang it! I just got the first version :( Any way to get the injection molded pieces seperate?

[@L663]

Send an email to contact @ Powerful uk dot com and we will work out a way to you the new version - as early adapoters i want to look after you guys. We may have to charge a small fee to cover postage - let me talk to the boss

[@paulhoppe4596]

@@L663 Sending an email shortly :) I am happy to purchase the mounting brackets. You all do amazing work and I am happy to be a customer. Keep it up!!

[@HQBProductions]

I just like reading all the comments! That cold start idle speed sounds high?..My D/Sport SD4 240 doesn’t do any fast idle at all…maybe just the petrols need that help.🤔😐😐😐😐

[@L663]

Hi Richard - yes it does rev up on startup but settles down quickly ! it seems to be part of the cold start "choke".... remember the days with a peg holding your choke cable out ?

[@HQBProductions]

@@L663 Ah yes…my job on Dad’s Company supplied Ford Anglia MAE 663, was to hold the choke out and reduce it as it warmed up…we were on the way to school and I was about 6/7 at the time! I had Early Learning! That was the car used to learn about changing gear..Dad had to press the clutch as my legs were not long enough! Gosh that was a time ago…but I’m not THAT old..just 38 and a few months…well a lot of months but who’s counting!! 😱😃😃😃😃😃Richard

[@stavrosTX]

Seems it is all about emission control... starts up and hold 1500 RPM until the cats are warm to reduce bad emission output as quickly as possible.

[@peterstewart6594]

Quick question boys, is it possible to move LEDS so that amber units are outermost for best visibility and white units innermost ? Thanks again Pete

[@L663]

I see your plan here - and for once I am kind of lost for words... let me sleep on this idea....

[@Only-one-life-68]

The current standard reverse lights are absolutely appalling 😮. Off to your shop now.. Also the interior light in the back is also junk. If the boot is full it actually covers the original lights.. Come on LR it’s a utility vehicle!!!

[@L663]

We have sold LOADS of reverse light upgrades for the Defender... its an area they need to improve - along with the interior lighting !

[@Only-one-life-68]

@@L663 Just about to install these and the boot light,only had them for 10 months

[@paulmayfield3506]

Do you have the part number for the bumper part the light attached to?

[@L663]

Hi Paul - see attached www.dropbox.com/s/6lchj31rg698mn2/part%20behind%20reverse%20light.JPG?dl=0

[@richardhunt1384]

You remove the top strip of the two part cover and then if you ever wanted to remove those extra lights then you can then re-stick on the top part.... if any of that made any sense at all(??)!!! 😁😁

[@stevenmoran4060]

You mean Morecambe and Wise.

[@notrut]

Wow ... LR are decades BEHIND the early RAV4 where a shorter door checkrod was deployed.

[@ecossearthur]

Another late Boom! ;-(

[@L663]

Sleeping on the job again !

[@ecossearthur]

Something like that! I might have actually been working 💪 👷‍♂️ 🤔 😅 🙃

[@mikeclark4416]

I had to laugh when you said "When your Defender breaks-down " Ha Ha

[@L663]

Could be a flat tyre.. it happens..

[@mvirdi2333]

Hi 👋