Landcruiser 300 Series (LC300) Lovells GVM & GCM Upgrade | Why Would You Bother & How Much?

We've managed to get the LC300 upgraded with the new kit from Lovells for a GVM & GCM suspension and certificate upgrade. Our weights and payload capacity has significantly increased giving us more room to play with and peace of mind knowing we are safe and within our limits. We explain the different options at Lovells and what's involved. You don't want to miss this!
#landcruiser #gvm #camping

[@shanevillis4079]

Another thing people need to research/ find out... is the roof load rating for their vehicle.... roofrack, brackets, awning, rrt etc, could overload your roof, thereby doing your insurance and warranty.

[@JourneyUnknown]

True, the roof rack capacity is determined by the brand of rack and fixing mounts.

[@reddyvid]

Excellent explanation of a really complex issue. I do like that you explained that this is dependent on what you want to use it for and that is something each owner needs to think carefully about before handing over the cash. Looking forward to seeing the weigh-in. Cheers.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thank you 😊. if it can help out a few people with their decision-making, that's great 👌

[@MegaSusanc]

Thank you so much. Wow, I didn't know you had to go through all that for a safe truck. But I agree knowing what y'all just said I'd do it in a heartbeat. I don't have any questions for now. I do believe you covered everything. Stay awesome you two and Keep on adventuring. GOD BLESS Y'ALL 🤗HUGS🤗 PS, If I need to know about anything I'm coming to you guys. Y'all are truly awesome.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Anytime, thanks, Susan 😊 🙏

[@brentwall9786]

Just to clarify with everyone, you do not need an engineering certificate if you remove the 3rd row of seats. We just had our new Y62 Patrol amended by vicroads. After the 3rd row of seats are removed, and the seat belts are either cut or removed entirely, vicroads will inspect and you simply feel paperwork out to go from either a 7 or 8 seater to a 5 seater vehicle. No engineering certificate is required. And no fee will apply. Hope this helps.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Brent, that's great to hear. Please also check with your state and territory as they do vary. The requirements for removing seats will vary depending on: the gross vehicle mass (GMV) of the vehicle the original vehicle category the new vehicle category which seats are removed when the vehicle was manufactured Where a seat has been removed, the corresponding seatbelt must also be removed

[@brentwall9786]

In Victoria, it states that whenever you remove the 3rd row of seats, regardless of any gvm or etc, you must notify Vicroads and your insurance company. It's really not that big of a deal like many make out.

[@JourneyUnknown]

All depends on the vehicle and what state you live in. Luckily, in your case, it was straightforward

[@darrenking3530]

Well done guys . Nice Wagon and happy camping 👍.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks Darren 👍 😊

[@yusufsayed1583]

Good Evening Legends 😊 im watching this on Tuesday 29/08 @ 17.00 😂 Thanks for sharing your upgrades 💯 Thanks Mate And Cheers From South Africa 🇿🇦

[@JourneyUnknown]

Ahh, nice one Yusuf thanks for tuning in, mate 👍 👌

[@nzmarkb8713]

Fantastic information thanks 👍

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks for tuning in and commenting 🍻

[@colinl9018]

Enjoyed that. I think i learned something. 👍

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cheers Colin 🍻

[@Quickers76]

Great video, really glad I watched it. I had the exact same upgrade done last week and I hadn't noticed the black tape. Very poor by Lovells for such an expensive upgrade. I find it strange that they are so concerned with regulations in regards the reverse lights, but make no effort to level out the headlights.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey Darren, thanks, mate. yeah, I have to agree. I think they are waiting for a solution. In saying that, they probably should let their clients know they can bring their vehicle back to get the reversing issue sorted 🙄

[@jebw]

I fitted a Lovells GVM, GCM, BTC (4000kg, 7800kg, 4000kg) upgrade to my LC200 pre registration. As you say it's firmer but with weight it handles very well. Recently we took it over the scales with the van attached and the vehicle was 3360kg (10kg over original GVM). Total GCM was 6500kg fully loaded inc passengers.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Wow 😳 You'll be surprised by the results on this Saturday's episode. thanks for watching and commenting 🙂

[@bradleyleviston]

Looking Great! We are looking at the same upgrade for our 300. Now that you have had it for a few months have you noticed the ride quality is worse than before when not towing or is it all good? Thanks for the great videos - you guys do an awesome job and I love the down to earth and honest take you show 👍

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey Bradley, We've found the GVM great, still rides well. We do have a bit of weight in the back plus the front bar, which all helps with the ride quality 👍

[@1964pmitchell]

Enjoying the videos and journies. You've certainly put your money in the right area's for your caravanning adventures. Definitely looking forward to seeing how it goes at the weigh-in. Safe travels

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thank you for your support 🙏. The weigh-in episode drops this Saturday morning 🍻

[@stewierun9940]

👏🏻👏🏻looking good, all you need are some good mirrors 😂😂 couldn’t resist The weight inn will be so interesting , could have a book running Sat episode (get some comments) 😎 👨🏻‍🌾👍

[@JourneyUnknown]

😄. Thanks, stew classic. We haven't heard enough about the Milencos 🤔 😂. Cheers for watching 👍

[@RE11XN-ny4jr]

Thank you for sharing the videos - Like others a great explanation on the weights . We have purchased a 2023 LC 300 VX Landcruiser and pick up next Friday 6 Oct 23)- Then off to Lovells for the GCM Upgrade - Unfortunately Toyota do not support the pre registration upgrade anymore - So need to register and then off to Lovells. Recently saw the new hitch you purchased Curt Rebellion ? Could let us know how it went and if you were happy with it .. Please keep the videos coming very informative Keep safe and Best wishes

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey guys, thanks for watching and commenting. That's exciting. I'm sure you'll be happy with your upgrade. It's a shame they won't do pre rego. So far, we are very happy with the rebellion tow hitch and will put it through a good test shortly 😀. Loving your support. Thank you 😊 🙏

[@matteasterby8743]

Interesting. I have just had JMACX do a 3800 GVM (with GCM cert to follow) on my GR. They will not do the upgrade without upgraded wheels and tyres and flares. The additional reversing light was located below the number plate and no black tape :-). They also installed additional CAT6 indicators and airbags. Substantially more expensive, however you do get control of the shocks from inside the vehicle so easy to adjust on the fly.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks Matt that's very interesting 🤔. luckily you missed out on the black tape 😉

[@thirdtimeround-chromenomads]

We have the big Lovells upgrades on our 200. Ride is firm, but not too hard. Our upgrade included a tow upgrade, using the BIG Lovells hitch. Good vids, guys

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, guys. Sounds though you've got the right set up 👍 🍻

[@craigpatten8349]

What does the tow upgrade do for you?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Gives us an extra 650kg of payload

[@ryanturner9457]

Thanks Troy and Laura but were was Coco !! looking forward now to the weigh in

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Stephen, Coco was tucked in bed sleeping. she's got a tough life 😄

[@ronlorettaburrrows8651]

Great, even increasing to 4.2T you can still only tow 3.5 T

[@JourneyUnknown]

More importantly, we increase our GCM to 7700kg

[@ppal64]

Good luck.

[@JourneyUnknown]

With?

[@AquaMarine1000]

Something to consider: Defining your needs when purchasing a new vehicle may be a better option than adding all these upgrades. In this example, a light truck will negate the need to upgrade the factory specifications. The cost of added motor vehicle accessories always depreciate more than the base vehicle. Purchasing a higher spec vehicle in the first place may be a better financial decision. Cheers

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Chris. l suppose everyone has different needs. We put 15k into the 300, You won't get an American truck for 128k. This is also our day to day vehicle compact and easy to get around 👍

[@aaronday132]

Appreciate the vid guys. We have a 300 also and have had the GVM done but waiting still on GCM and tow upgrade from Lovells (we’re in NSW) they are telling us Oct. this is all we are are waiting on to begin our lap. Got a brand new van ready to pick up and we can’t. Cheers 👍 Oh and the snorkel is a bit loud hey especially when the windows down

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Aaron, Thanks for tuning in. It's a bit frustrating to have to wait. Im sure you'll be happy with the upgrade. Not long now, and you'll be on the road. Safe travels 🙏

[@johndeveraux8472]

Just had my lovells 4200kg kit with new upper control arms done pre rego in Sydney so it’s definitely available now, my bank account can vouch for that

[@JourneyUnknown]

@@johndeveraux8472 😄

[@aaronday132]

@@johndeveraux8472 did you get a tow upgrade with that? Or just the GVM/GCM? Cheers

[@JourneyUnknown]

Nah, no need to get a tow upgrade. Our van is 3500kg

[@amrisalk233]

Great video and Awesome upgrade all clear explanations , What brand of your shirt please, looks awesome for fishing and casual.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thank you. The shirt brand is Gondwana shirt from Anaconda 🍻

[@amrisalk233]

@@JourneyUnknown, Awesome. Thank you

[@robwhitmore6658]

Just had the 3800 \7300 done, it is great and ride is very nice. Fitted bar, winch, sidesteps, light dual battery and draw system and a replacement sub tank. Added new wheels 17x 9s with 275/70s and my weight with 167 litres and me on board was 2900 certified weigh bridge. As for warranty, if I over heat and damage the trans by towing Toyota will argue warranty. If I add a trans cooler or heat exchange system Toyota will argue about the warranty, despite the fact that that those options will aid the car. Same with suspension. Toyota have to prove that the actual mods were an undisputed cause of any warranty issue.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Nice Rob, your rig sounds well thought through, lm sure it looks awesome👌. . 💯 agree Toyota has to prove that the problem caused is because of the mods. 🍻

[@JayWilFo]

Thanks for sharing upgrade info 👍🏻 Sorry if dumb question, what effect do such upgrades have on any Toyota warranty claims?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Jay, Toyota approves the kit and the installation. Lovells get told where to mount all components and the specifications through the engineering process. The car is still under warranty.

[@frankguernier2280]

Toyota will walk away. It's in their warranty statement. And loveless or any of the cowboys won't offer a warranty take up in writing. Should have bought a truck.

[@JourneyUnknown]

No thanks

[@jewfishable]

Mate I think toyota will not uphold the warranty with any gvm upgrade, I am currently in the process of getting a 300 and inquiries at the dealership today confirmed that gvm upgrades will void all drive line warranty. I'm sure lovells have told u different, its probably a good up grade after warranty. Hope Toyota has built a tuff rig for ya and u don't have any drama's

[@markward38]

Hi Troy, I’m considering upgrading my suspension from the standard to the Lovel’s kit. At the moment I’m very disappointed with my 300 the way it tows. The vehicle feels very floaty ,soft and caravan sways. Did you find that when towing before upgrade.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Mark, yeah, we were disappointed also. the steering was very floaty due to the rear sagging. getting a front bar with the Lovells upgrade sorted it right out tows like a dream now 🍻

[@kathleenwhelan6500]

We're in the queue for a lovely 3850 upgrade for our 300

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Kathleen, I'm sure you'll be happy with the results. hopefully, you're not waiting too long

[@AU_4591]

So all those upgrades what if anything was done about radiator and trans cooling? Still have the STD anchors fitted?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Yeah, I'm not sure, we'll keep you updated on our lap of Aus. 🍻

[@HenryAnyona]

We just in the process of ordering LC 300( Dusty bronze). Stuck between choice of 3800gvm/gcm or 4200gvm/gcm. Planning to tow max 3T- 3.5T max. We want to keep 7 seats. Maybe in future do draw system setup. Just undecided on the decision as I don’t know what upgrades I’m going to have on the car. Any advice?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi, thanks for watching and commenting. Personally, l would get the 4200kg. This way, you'll have plenty of payload, and you won't have to worry about what accessories you want to put on afterwards.

[@pata8167]

I just picked up our 300 with 4.200 per rego the lovells agent i had. I'm put these two lights on as the 300 reversing lights are shit out of the factory start of our new rebuild

[@JourneyUnknown]

Awesome 👌, you'll be happy with the upgrade 🍻

[@darlineainsworth1460]

Just wondering what state u guys r in as WA don’t allow GCM only GVM so when I investigated doing it was advised no warranty any longer . Can u advise what state as I know QLD is ok but WA and NT won’t do it or if it is done will not be acknowledged legally eh ? Thanks 🙏

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi, Our car is registered in Victoria with a federal approved GVM/GCM. Each state does have different rules and regulations, unfortunately.

[@philliphodges8416]

Hi there ,could you tell me what fuel consumption you are getting when towing. Thanks. Phil.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey Phil, thanks for tuning in. We average between 18-20 Ltr towing.

[@darrenbailey573]

Is it correct that the tyre size is stated as the factory size only on the Lovells compliance certificate? If you went oversize would the GVM no longer be compliant?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Darren, we were told to only increase our tyre load rating above 116. There is nothing to show tyre or wheel sizes on the compliance plate. I believe if you get an after-market wheel, it will need to get signed off to become legal.

[@dantheman6159]

Lovells don’t do the BTC upgrade YET as it awaiting final sign off. expected release date is 30.10.23. If you have the platinum kit 4200kg GVM, which I think you guys have, you will be able to upgrade to the 4.0T once it is released. Will just need another compliance plate and engineers certificate.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Dan, that's great to know 👍

[@lorenzoscribani]

Lovells have just released the 4T BTC. Not cheap though. You need to use their own hitching system called the hiace and use the WDH. I’m yet to find out if you need it if you’re towing

[@PJ-rf4uw]

Good explanation, I personally would just buy an F250, Chev or Doge Ram if I needed the higher GVM and/or GCM. By doing this upgrade you unfortunately just lost whats left of your 5 year Toyota warranty.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks for watching. Nah, we've already had warranty issues after our GVM. Had it fix no problems at all. Like any mod - you'll only void your warranty if the mod caused the breakdown. therefore, Lovells has a warranty to cover any suspension issues.

[@rollyb5061]

should be interesting when you put it over the weight bridge fully loaded

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cheers 🍻. There's some interesting results on our next episode 👍

[@MarkCooper-rv4fr]

A 2400kg axle rating on a 4200 gvm isn’t enough. Good luck with that. I recently weighed a three hundred with 250kg in the rear & only 250kg on the ball. It was at 2200kg on the axle. That was with no passengers.

[@pata8167]

Mine with a towball weight of 340kg and a rear axle 1.260 =1.600 still giving me 600kg with you want take the weight off the rear put a load distribution hitch on put more weight on the front My 300 with a ARB bull bar and winch and me at 92kg in the car the front axle is 10kg over weight with a GVM upgrade at the moment Lovells is definitely the way to go

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks Mark, you mightl see a totally different result on this Saturday's episode 👍

[@Swinopolis]

Good explanation guys, regarding the Luxury Car Tax - I've done my Lovells upgrade pre-rego, you mentioned Luxury car tax refund? How does one achieve this?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey Matt, l believe this is done prior to picking up your vehicle through your dealer. Otherwise, if you are a primary producer or tourism opperator, you can claim a refund using the application for a luxury car tax refund - for primary producers and tourism operators form. This refund must be claimed within 4 years of becoming entitled to it. can be claimed back through the ATO. Hopefully, this helps 🍻

[@Swinopolis]

@@JourneyUnknown thanks, I did check with my dealer, they said you cannot claim this (even though technically the vehicle is now a slightly different category due to the upgrade) unless you use it for the purposes you mentioned there. Shame, for LC300 owners LCT makes up a significant contribution to the purchase price, it would pay for your Lovell's upgrade and a bullbar at least :) - Thanks again.

[@petergreber7051]

That seems crazy taping over the reverse lights.

[@ryanturner9457]

But very easy to remove and have your lights back, Lovells have to disable to make legal and easy for the owner to remove black tape.

[@AU_4591]

Obviously taping over the reverse lights probably means they are no longer ADR compliant. If they're worried about people walking behind vehicle then fit a reversing buzzer

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks Peter, Yeah its not ideal.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks for watching and commenting. definitely something Lovells could've installed or at least inform you that they will tape over your reverse lights. 🤔

[@frankguernier2280]

The other thing to consider is the risk you take with voiding your factory warranty. Toyota's engineers approve the weights and tow limits only to factory stated limits. If you have a drive train failure or steering/suspension issue they have the right to walk away. If you ask Lovells to take on the Toyota factory warranty and give you that in writing they will refuse. In effect you have paid $7000 for a set of springs and dockers and thrown your Toyota warranty in the bin.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Frank. we've already had warranty issues. Toyota had them sorted straight away. if we end up with suspension problems (all hypothetical, of course), then Lovells will cover the warranty for that.

[@ryanturner9457]

Lovells don't fit the extra indicator in the front guard like others ? Stephen.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Mmm, I'm not sure. they didn't with our install.

[@ryanturner9457]

another bonus with Lovells, no ugly extra indicators on the front guards and the easy to get working again reverse lights@@JourneyUnknown

[@ryanturner9457]

Just been told the indicators are only needed if the 3rd row seats are removed and reclassified as a NB1 goods carrier.kzbin.info/www/bejne/pnzdhnqGetV3otk

[@red_rocket.]

How is your rear axle loan when fully loaded with van on?

[@JourneyUnknown]

The rear axle with the van hitched fully loaded is 2129kgi with a payload of 271kg remaining. kzbin.info/www/bejne/sKPYgJ2tqNKYnJIsi=FQtG7djZNJ8LdXal

[@jayeprice]

What type of rooftop tent did you get for the 300??

[@JourneyUnknown]

We had an AliCab loaded, although recently changed our setup without a rooftop tent.

[@red_rocket.]

I understand that the 300 has an aluminium roof and there is no official Toyota load rating. You could do damage in off road situations and on corrugated roads.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Toyota have a roof rack rated at 125kg for the 300. Our rack is rated at 150kg with 3 mounts. They don't stipulate the roof loading. Although in saying that if they have a rack at 125kg ld be working with that number.

[@lorenzoscribani]

Hi guys, Just wondering. How does the 300 ride without the caravan? Is the 4200 GVM upgrade quite harsh when not towing?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi, We find it rides really well without the van in tow. We do have a bit of weight in the rear, which probably helps 👍

[@lorenzoscribani]

@@JourneyUnknown Good to know. I have a new 300 coming in a few months and tossing up which way to go. Day to day it will be wife’s shopping trolley with 2 kids in the back so don’t want it to ride too harsh. But getting full drawers and fridge in the back constantly. Might have to keep the fridge full to assist with dampening 😃 keep up the good work guys 👌

[@JourneyUnknown]

Perfect. Are you keeping the rear seats in? that will also help.

[@lorenzoscribani]

@@JourneyUnknown nope. They’re going to make room for lithium, compressor and dc-dc charger. Getting those RVSS drawers with the built in evakool fridge drawer. Planning an aus lap in 2026

[@JourneyUnknown]

Awesome 👌

[@steveturner263]

Do you have any idea how much the GVM upgrade increased the height of the vehicle?

[@JourneyUnknown]

it's lifted around 2 inches

[@steveturner263]

@@JourneyUnknown Going to be interesting once i set mine up if it will fit in the garage lol

[@johnrhodes9892]

Very informative, so we’re you happy with Lowell’s?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, John. So far, so good after a few months of driving. We're definitely happy with the ride quality 👍

[@brendanrust9275]

I didn’t think if you upgraded your gvm this increase your GCM? What’s changed to to increase this? Also the roof loading was an issue on my crusier and roof top. 100kg limit which include the rack. Then the rack has a limit, and then there’s a limit when off road. Be careful, not covered if any of this is over.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks, Brendan, Lovells are one of a few companies who offer both GVM & GCM upgrades. It's worth double checking your roof load capacity. Toyota has a genuine roof rack that has a load rating of 125kg 🤔.

[@frankguernier2280]

All of these happy campers spending bulk $$$ chasing the impossible dream. Sp now you intend to drag bulk weight way over the amount that Toyota design the vehicle for. What happens when that oil thirsty engineer the transmission said enough. See what Toyota say then. I would highly doubt Toyota will provide an extended warranty in writing. You are on your own.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Come on, Frank, try and be a bit more glass half full 🤔. The car is rated to tow 3.5t. Our van weights are well under that.. We also have had a warranty claim after the GVM with no issues what so ever, fixed straight away 👌. ld probably prefer to go off what Toyota management has explained to us in regards to voiding any warranty

[@brendanrust9275]

@@JourneyUnknown fair enough and that’s great it does both. I drive a 76 series Land Cruiser anf roof loads capacity is 100kg! Your roof rack capacity is more the issue!

[@JourneyUnknown]

Nice. Roof loading on the 300 is fine. Toyota has a genuine rack for the 300 that has a load rating of 125kg. All this talk about only 90kg roof loading is BS.

[@donr62]

Who covers the warranty if something goes wrong with something related to the upgrade? Toyota or the upgrade supplier?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Lovells have warranty if the suspension breaks

[@donr62]

@@JourneyUnknownwhat if the chassis cracks? Or the transmission has a problem because of the extra load. Sorry but Toyota will wash their hands of it for sure.

[@JourneyUnknown]

That's like living with hypotheticals with every decision that you make. We've also already had warranty issues with Toyota with no problems

[@NothingsImportant]

Any reason why you went the Cruiser over an American truck?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Mainly because of the size of the American trucks. We want to be able to get into tight camps.

[@rickmacason]

can you confirm you GCM upgrade is ok in WA ? assuming because its registered in VIC its ok ?

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hey, yep, it's federally approved 👍

[@rickmacason]

@@JourneyUnknown - thanks for that, just need to keep my car registered in another state then Dept. of Trans. in WA wont recognise GCM upgrades as stupid as it sounds

[@JourneyUnknown]

Bloody ridiculous 🙄

[@theadmiral7726]

Do you need a lr truck licence now.

[@JourneyUnknown]

I'm surprised Dan A hasn't implemented that legislation 🤔 😳

[@rodneym5868]

Have to agree in regards to the reverse lights, makes no sense to me.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cheers, Rod. lve recently read that this is a temporary solution until the new reverse kits are ready 🤔

[@pata8167]

Lovells are bring out and upgrade to 4 tonnes brake it so you can take it off later

[@johndeveraux8472]

Nothing extra done to your car, it’s a new 4 tonne hitch for your car and caravan with weight distribution bars.

[@JourneyUnknown]

That's handy to know. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@scottcox8559]

There will be plenty of people that will get these upgrades and think they can tow 4T. Always surprised that they dont upgrade the brakes, alot of extra weight to pull up.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Yeah, one would hope not 🙄

[@scottcox8559]

@JourneyUnknown the other follow-on effect from these upgrades is that you no longer have any toyota factory warranty.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Nah, not quite correct, we've already had a warranty claim with no issues after the GVM. The only time you will void a warranty claim is if the upgrade has caused the brakedown.

[@scottcox8559]

@JourneyUnknown I guarantee that if you blow an engine, gearbox or diff. They will say it is due to excessive load.

[@JourneyUnknown]

We"ll cross that path if it happens. There is no point in thinking about hypotheticals.. Otherwise, any car with bigger tyres or even a snorkel wouldn't leave their driveway.

[@jennylacy7867]

How much weight can u put on the roof of a 300??

[@seabee167]

Not enough for racks and a RTT

[@JourneyUnknown]

Great question, Jenny. Toyota has a genuine roof rack rated at 125kg, so all this talk about the 300 only having a roof rating of 90kg is BS. Our rack has a rating of 150kg with 6 fixing points. We have under 100kg loaded atm.

[@JourneyUnknown]

@seabee167 Yeah, that's not correct.

[@seabee167]

@@JourneyUnknown sorry meant some RTTs, but weight adds up quick with the rack itself, RTT, solar and extras which most people carry. I had to downsize in weight from a South African RTT to a 65kg aussie brand RTT on a Yakima 3 bar rack. Cheers

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cool, fair enough. you're right it all adds up. there is a bit of a misconception on what a 300 series roof load is. Considering Toyota, have a genuine rack rated at 125kg lm tipping that would be your starting point 🍻

[@ppal64]

Don’t know why you say only Lovells does the GVM+GCM upgrade. Quick google search shows just about any shop that has seen springs is offering it.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Because at the time that episode was filmed, Lovells and Jmax were the only ones that offered the GVM/GCM. thanks 😊

[@pointednowhere5858]

Upgraded front and rear axle??. Lovells don't do that. You will blow out your rear axle load if you load it up to 4200/7700. This is why JMacx do a rear diff replacement to legally retain your 3500 tow rating. Be interesting when you get it professionally weighed

[@ryanturner9457]

The axle upgrade is on paper its a re rating but not as high as a JMACX

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cheers. It's a load rating of 2400kg on the rear and 1800kg on the front axle, You see on our weigh-in this Saturday morning if we get anything near these weights 🤔

[@WilliamLudbey-jv9gh]

Very informative and great advice

[@JourneyUnknown]

Thanks KB!

[@johndeveraux8472]

How much is the 4200 gvm Jmacx kit?

[@Dorko85]

Black tape 😂 that’s just lazy for them not to disconnect it!

[@JourneyUnknown]

That's what we were thinking 🤔 😄

[@ppal64]

The hose is hanging because they don’t CARE what they are doing.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Apparently, that's how the engineers want them installed 🤔

[@ausguy4385]

In regards to the hose it will rub and wear.... they will blame you when it leaks.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Mmm, time will tell 🤔

[@AussieDazza]

I honestly dont see the point of buying a vehicle which was designed for certain weights by the manufacturer engineers and then getting GVM, GCM “ upgrades “. by a third party.Just buy a 2500/ 3500 series pick up from Ford, Ram or Gm. Eg- a 3500 Ram has a 1.7 Ton payload.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Yeah, each to their own! Our experience is to be able to travel the country without having to lease out 2 caravan sites to park the car as well. Very happy with the Toyota Landcruiser 👍

[@peterlewis1049]

You haven't touched on what happens to the vehicle warranty 🤔 or any change to insurance because now the car is being used outside its design and engineered specifications from the manufacturer even though a second manufacturer and engineer say its safe the manufacturer might not agree

[@JourneyUnknown]

Hi Peter, to have our car insured after the upgrade costs us $10 per mth extra. There is no issue with the warranty, Toyota approves the GVM throughout the RND process along with every other car that has had a GVMs in the past. Hopefully, this answers your questions 🍻

[@JourneyUnknown]

Toyota has just clarified that the only time you will void your warranty is if the GVM installed has caused the breakdown. alongside any other modifications done on your vehicle.

[@bazza2540]

Nice big 4x4. Just don't carry 4 adults and some beer, you'll need to spend another $7,000 for that...

[@JourneyUnknown]

Cheers Bazza, l suppose we'll find out on this Saturday's episode 👍

[@bazza2540]

@@JourneyUnknown Not knocking you or lovells but what I'm saying is really Toyota is shocking not giving this car a 3.5T gvm from factory, and makes me think a RAM and F150 are a better choice for towing big vans and skipping all this hooha

[@JourneyUnknown]

Yeah, all good 👍. l agree it would be nice if Toyota built a truck fully capable 🤔

[@ausguy4385]

Any kit is legal interstate 😂 Rego is state based! Your car is only required to meet the state its registered the issue is selling to interstate. They simply have a new engineering company for that state. Easy...

[@JourneyUnknown]

Federal or state, they'll find a reason to give you a fine wondering 😏

[@ausguy4385]

Would never recommend lovells not even someone I hated 😂 Crap service Crap installation Crap ride Dont cheap out go jmax. Actually upgrades to the alex not paper BS.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Sounds though you've had a bad experience. So far, so good. we'll let you know if we have any issues down the track 👍

[@frankguernier2280]

So you have just blown your Toyota warranty and ignored their safety engineers expertise vs A tin pot company. I bet Lovells won't honour any warranty for the vehicle. Risking safety for your family.

[@JourneyUnknown]

Please, Frank 😄. The only time warranty is void is if the suspension upgrade is the cause of the breakdown. In that case, Lovells has a warranty to cover such instances. There is no difference from any other upgrade before the 300 series. Absolutely increasing the safety of our family with the GVM upgrade appose to towing without it 👌

[@frankguernier2280]

I beg to differ on the warranty If you have transmission or engine failures. Toyota will walk away based on the changes you have made on weights exceed their design rules. I hope Lovells have given you a written warranty taking up where Toyota leave you. Their hand book on warranty is very clear on what they will not cover.