Lando Norris Pole at the Shanghai 2024 | Onboard with telemetry and delta compared to Hamilton

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@Tristialawirtz
@Tristialawirtz 8 ай бұрын
First of all, great job from both drivers- really shows who's who in F1 with these conditions. For Lando to start the lap so compromised and still snatch pole by 1.2 seconds is crazy good, especially considering that mistake according to Stella cost him somewhere around 3-tenths. All the professionals agree that this lap deserved it today, he really was in a league of his own. And when you think about it he really did this twice in SQ3- the lap where he went to the gravel (might've been pole by an even bigger margin if he had kept it inside there)- and again in the following lap. Superb
@Skysolo850
@Skysolo850 8 ай бұрын
That last hairpin by Lewis was amazing. Lovely V shape
@baddoer
@baddoer 8 ай бұрын
It was only corner where he was better. Norris probably distracted by car ahead. But McLaren is a better car...
@justinwalpole8956
@justinwalpole8956 8 ай бұрын
​@@baddoer mclaren were much faster
@warbird6196
@warbird6196 8 ай бұрын
Lando really knows where the grip is
@epygames
@epygames 8 ай бұрын
Some how he is really good in rain like spa 2021
@T-CainesZR1
@T-CainesZR1 8 ай бұрын
That also the McLaren has mor downforce then thr merc
@AgainstWokeness
@AgainstWokeness 8 ай бұрын
Not in T1 in the race 😂
@bill4665
@bill4665 8 ай бұрын
​@@T-CainesZR1 Doesnt matter, Lando found the racing line. Lewis didnt. Hence why Lando > Lewis.
@RadialSeeker113
@RadialSeeker113 8 ай бұрын
Thr gap in corners 3-7, is so insane
@flintey360
@flintey360 8 ай бұрын
The McLaren has more mechanical grip and down force on the car as shown on the speed traps
@Skysolo850
@Skysolo850 8 ай бұрын
The lateral load of the Mercedes is terrible
@paytonshort3708
@paytonshort3708 8 ай бұрын
@@flintey360well not necessarily they are only down in drs and not in just pure top speed. McLarens car does naturally have more downforce than mercs especially through the high speed sections.
@PolarBear69o
@PolarBear69o 8 ай бұрын
It was a lot wetter when Hamilton set that lap
@paytonshort3708
@paytonshort3708 8 ай бұрын
@@PolarBear69o it wasn’t lmao did you even watch it
@elysianpositron661
@elysianpositron661 8 ай бұрын
Thanks for the upload. Love things like this
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu
@DavidJohnson-dc8lu 8 ай бұрын
The Fia are knobheads, Lando didn't go off at all. That said the McLaren understeers naturally, I think this helped in the water. Lewis was getting mega overnap moments he needed to correct his car. Well don't Norris, the lap was mega.
@mexicanopdb
@mexicanopdb 8 ай бұрын
I mean he did go off the lap before but I agree it's completely bogus because he didn't gain any time and probably lost a ton
@Humpback-kd6rj
@Humpback-kd6rj 8 ай бұрын
yeah idk anymore after the fia gave him a free bee for the jump start before...shit really shows just how unconsistent they are.
@swayambadhe
@swayambadhe 8 ай бұрын
Why would he lose time, even thos he was off track and on the bumpy kerbs he was still full throttle and didn't loose any speed as per telemetry​@@mexicanopdb
@oransjball
@oransjball 8 ай бұрын
The problem is FIA keeps breaking the rulebook. There is no consistency.
@brisjoh9944
@brisjoh9944 8 ай бұрын
Grip mecanic of this McLaren is terrifying !
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
Or maybe Norris is just good? You do realise car performance is largely equalised in wet conditions?
@brisjoh9944
@brisjoh9944 8 ай бұрын
@@manavkumar6590 Norris is good too
@Max-xc3tl
@Max-xc3tl 8 ай бұрын
@@manavkumar6590definitely good driver but also had the setup perfect for the conditions. Hard to get both of those in one go so congrats to him and his team on the pole lap
@ddha0000
@ddha0000 8 ай бұрын
@@manavkumar6590 na, the McLaren warms its tires better and has really good mechanical grip
@aaronhusain1659
@aaronhusain1659 8 ай бұрын
They were also running higher downforce then the other teams so that helped too
@lekudos
@lekudos 8 ай бұрын
Maclaren tyre warm up really doing good work for Norris here 👍🏿
@ETHANTHEGOAT33
@ETHANTHEGOAT33 8 ай бұрын
LETS GOO LANDO
@mrdraw2087
@mrdraw2087 8 ай бұрын
Norris really takes a tight line in these slow corners, which seems to work quite well. Reminds me a bit of Russell's qualifying lap in Belgium 2021.
@kendracampbell3458
@kendracampbell3458 8 ай бұрын
I think that’s the lap where Russell said he watched Lando’s line on the track and then tried to copy it.
@Tristialawirtz
@Tristialawirtz 8 ай бұрын
@@kendracampbell3458 Yep, Lando was taking a different line to everyone in that quali session too, which as you said is where Russell got the line from. On the outlap for the sprintshootout you can actually see Lando exploring the kerbs and going a bit all over the place probably to establish where he wants to go on his flyer.
@Amin-dd9mk
@Amin-dd9mk 8 ай бұрын
I notice the McLaren is slightly grippier into the corner. Lando is a great driver don't get me wrong.
@glenroy83
@glenroy83 8 ай бұрын
His car had more downforce than the others, and his tyres warmed up much faster.
@Tristialawirtz
@Tristialawirtz 8 ай бұрын
RedBull arguably had more downforce too, and tyre warming in these conditions is largely down to the driver actually- don't take my word for it as its been addressed by most of the drivers and TPs or race engineers. That lap was still mega and ultimately completely unchallenged by anyone on the grid too. Not to mention his teammate didn't manage to find any answer what so ever
@betelgeuse227
@betelgeuse227 8 ай бұрын
How did you get the telemetry
@f89ful
@f89ful 8 ай бұрын
Why lando lap deleted at first? I dont see any 4 wheel outside the track.. good luck tomorrow Lando..!
@ChrisRigbyFilm
@ChrisRigbyFilm 8 ай бұрын
It’s because he ran wide on the last corner before starting his flying lap. Usually happens that way because you can gain an advantage down the straight to start your lap faster, thus cheating.
@ehh300
@ehh300 8 ай бұрын
@@ChrisRigbyFilm Just to finish the context, in this instance he started his lap in the gravel and thus they determined there was no way he gained an advantage and reinstated the lap. Cheers!
@jpwi8718
@jpwi8718 8 ай бұрын
​@@ehh300 They didn't need to determine anything. They choose whether they're using that rule and publish it in the race directors notes before the race weekend even starts. They just made a mistake here as that rule is not in the race directors notes for China.
@ChrisRigbyFilm
@ChrisRigbyFilm 8 ай бұрын
@@ehh300correct
@norbertschmidt5997
@norbertschmidt5997 8 ай бұрын
Anybody here after the race 😂
@Neil-bv1qd
@Neil-bv1qd 8 ай бұрын
Best driver in F1 right now without a doubt in my mind. He smashed Max by 2 seconds, that's with a bad launch to his lap as well. He lost an estimated 0.3s. ABSOLUTELY NO ONE is surprised either. Says it all really.
@kakmaster6945
@kakmaster6945 8 ай бұрын
He is probably 5th best at the minute, but not close to neither Max or Alonso and probably not Hamilton or Leclerc either.
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
@@kakmaster6945LECLERC LMAOOOOOOO bro can’t even keep it on TRACK when it’s wet 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Norris is so clear of that little quali merchant fraud 😂😂😂
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
@@kakmaster6945’Probably’? He is definitely close to Verstappen and Alonso; only a moron would deny that. He’s been better than Hamilton and Leclerc this season- he’s actually beating his teammate.
@aaravgoyal4034
@aaravgoyal4034 8 ай бұрын
@kakmaster6945 Look at the F1 Sprint Qualifying analysis - McLaren was only 0.02 seconds off the pace of red bull, effectively meaning he's the second or third fastest on the grid right now. Don't know where u got the "5th best" from
@Neil-bv1qd
@Neil-bv1qd 8 ай бұрын
@@kakmaster6945 Youre talking about the cars mate not the drivers.
@pooyakhalili406
@pooyakhalili406 8 ай бұрын
Great job by Norris, but he was also helped by Mclaren, opting for a higher downforce rearwing. That may not help him in the race
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
Didn’t make that much difference in top speed on this lap did it? Both cars were almost even through the speed trap
@ar9gaming2020
@ar9gaming2020 8 ай бұрын
Scenario 7
@虎ちゃん-v8t
@虎ちゃん-v8t 8 ай бұрын
He got big balls
@rodclark5831
@rodclark5831 8 ай бұрын
Should have compared him to Alonso!
@Abhinay-eu2xo
@Abhinay-eu2xo 8 ай бұрын
Lewis absolutely avoided the Apex.
@rotorairgroup8409
@rotorairgroup8409 8 ай бұрын
That was until the race.
@Humpback-kd6rj
@Humpback-kd6rj 8 ай бұрын
wait im confused....so he didnt exceed track limits?
@ani1185
@ani1185 8 ай бұрын
No. What tv showed was the previous lap. In some tracks when you go out, you get both laps deleted ( like austria ) cause you may start the new lap with an advantage (that's determined ont the race director notes) Here in China according to those notes, you only get deleted the one in which you go out, that it was the previous one. That's why the lap is valid.
@Humpback-kd6rj
@Humpback-kd6rj 8 ай бұрын
@@ani1185 are u for real? like why cant they make shit like this clear? idk where all these info coming from
@deideideigd2418
@deideideigd2418 8 ай бұрын
​@@Humpback-kd6rji think his lap was not deleted because he didnt gain any advantage since he went off the track in the gravel
@G_WOLF
@G_WOLF 8 ай бұрын
@@deideideigd2418which doesn’t make sense, cause is it supposed to if your off track in general
@ani1185
@ani1185 8 ай бұрын
@@Humpback-kd6rj it's pretty clear. Before every gp fia uploads a document with race director notes that are track specific, that is of public knowledge, you can check them. The difference between China and Austria is that there's gravel on T16 at China. On that note, that's why the notes of those circuits are different.
@adambonot2439
@adambonot2439 8 ай бұрын
Great sprint😂😂
@diesel-technology5507
@diesel-technology5507 8 ай бұрын
12km/h down at the start/finish line due to going off on the last corner but some clown in the stewards room decided to delete the lap 😂
@justinwalpole8956
@justinwalpole8956 8 ай бұрын
Both amazing laps, but in my opinion, Hamiltons is better because before the rain the Mercedes were rubbish
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
Your opinion is dumb; car performance is largely equalised in wet conditions. And the Mercedes isn’t so inferior to the McLaren that the performance gap would come out to 1.2 seconds 😂
@justinwalpole8956
@justinwalpole8956 8 ай бұрын
@@manavkumar6590 mclaren were running much higher downforce than any other team
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
@@justinwalpole8956 Then why wasn’t their top speed much lower than it was compared to Merc? Or Aston? Even if they weren’t running a higher downforce setup, it wouldn’t have mattered. 1.2 seconds is a monumental gap and Norris was 3 seconds faster than Piastri
@justinwalpole8956
@justinwalpole8956 8 ай бұрын
@manavkumar6590 piastris car went into neutral, costing him a huge amount of time. Without that, he would have qualified 2nd.
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
@@justinwalpole8956 He was 1.1 seconds down on Norris’ time through 2 sectors. Absolutely no chance he qualifies any better than 4th even without the gearbox failure. Piastri is nowhere close to Norris in wet conditions. Hamilton’s lap wasn’t even close to being as impressive as Norris
@maylux9458
@maylux9458 8 ай бұрын
Is the car fkn censored or the camera just awful??
@carmelasicurezza
@carmelasicurezza 8 ай бұрын
water
@motordragon1975
@motordragon1975 8 ай бұрын
Or to Lando and Lewis and I: Wa’er
@maylux9458
@maylux9458 8 ай бұрын
yea but why is the damn cockpit not blurry but the car not visible
@carmelasicurezza
@carmelasicurezza 8 ай бұрын
@@maylux9458 actually good point, that's strange
@serekkirikiri344
@serekkirikiri344 8 ай бұрын
Actually Perez was second fastest, if he wouldnt go straight in the last corner he would be second by like 0,5 second
@Akshaytg
@Akshaytg 8 ай бұрын
Actually everyone would be fastest if they drove faster. If my grandma had wheels she would be a bicycle ahhh comment
@mapleleafkay9824
@mapleleafkay9824 8 ай бұрын
@@Akshaytglooool
@serekkirikiri344
@serekkirikiri344 8 ай бұрын
@@Akshaytg nah man, just saying perez was faster than the others apart from lando.
@viktorbjorkman5632
@viktorbjorkman5632 8 ай бұрын
@@serekkirikiri344 No, you're saying: If it had ham in it, it would've been closer to a British carbonara
@Slosloowslooow
@Slosloowslooow 8 ай бұрын
Here you can see its fakeresult
@muhamadmycukus2
@muhamadmycukus2 8 ай бұрын
He bottled it like in russia
@ahmetyolcu5337
@ahmetyolcu5337 8 ай бұрын
The main difference is Lewis missing almost every single one of his braking points and understeers off the corner, therefore lose time and distance. Lando really judged where the grip is perfectly.
@beilultesfom4929
@beilultesfom4929 8 ай бұрын
I can’t see shit lol the driver must be going though it haahha
@wahbzbwwnjss
@wahbzbwwnjss 8 ай бұрын
Norris' lap wasn't even the best lap slower than previous s1 s2 time
@cvessex
@cvessex 8 ай бұрын
Saudi 2024 all over again😢
@ToffepeerTH
@ToffepeerTH 8 ай бұрын
Sadly this will probably mean he will overcook his tires in dry conditions with this setup.
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
It’s really not that much downforce…
@slimstrait780
@slimstrait780 8 ай бұрын
​I@@manavkumar6590actually this track is rather abrasive If his warmup was this good, I can't seem them being quick in the dry. It's not just about downforce level.
@totowolff8609
@totowolff8609 8 ай бұрын
Shame he lost it in 1-3 corners
@totowolff8609
@totowolff8609 8 ай бұрын
In the sprint
@DarkWater4Eva
@DarkWater4Eva 8 ай бұрын
Lando always get the special favors. If he didn't go wide off track he would have probably spun out. So he did get a benefit. Besides the track was wet so he didn't "lose" any time because everyone was driving slower than usual. F1 with it's inconsistent rules when Lewis is involved.
@bastordd
@bastordd 8 ай бұрын
Norris make Lewis a amateur 😅😅
@G_WOLF
@G_WOLF 8 ай бұрын
Lmao Norris is amateur with no wins to his name 😂, keep talking shit kid 🤣
@manavkumar6590
@manavkumar6590 8 ай бұрын
@@G_WOLFTeamLulu fan triggered 🥺 keep your mouth shut lil bro, LuLu is getting pummelled by RUSSELL 😂😂😂
@G_WOLF
@G_WOLF 8 ай бұрын
@@manavkumar6590 Russell p11 while Lewis is p2 The math ain’t mathing 😂🤣
@G_WOLF
@G_WOLF 8 ай бұрын
Watch Lewis pass Russell in points in one weekend haha
@ChrisRigbyFilm
@ChrisRigbyFilm 8 ай бұрын
What did he make Max look like then?
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