Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso in Japan 2024 qualifying

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yelistener

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@yelistener
@yelistener 5 ай бұрын
Exhaust sound 2024 vs 2021: kzbin.info/www/bejne/e4TJiJWMf6aXrMk
@AgainstWokeness
@AgainstWokeness 5 ай бұрын
The difference between Alonso and Strolls car is between the seat and the steering wheel
@Urgrannytranny
@Urgrannytranny 5 ай бұрын
Stroll is over 6ft though. His seat setup must be different like that of Albon or George.
@ErKilloVI
@ErKilloVI 5 ай бұрын
@@Urgrannytranny i think he meant the pilot(stroll) is the problem
@tiberiuscx5847
@tiberiuscx5847 5 ай бұрын
@@Urgrannytranny I think you should only watch Nascar! I turn left real good!
@GenAvAviation
@GenAvAviation 5 ай бұрын
@@tiberiuscx5847 ?
@ah__xmr
@ah__xmr 5 ай бұрын
Macedonia is Greek
@rinnie4174
@rinnie4174 5 ай бұрын
I dont understand how a guy that is in f1 almost 7years gets beaten so hard by rookie
@joshflynn2173
@joshflynn2173 5 ай бұрын
😂
@bo_of3112
@bo_of3112 5 ай бұрын
@@erlinghaaland2268 Their sponsors are starting to pull their weight though, aramco supposedly making performance demands for stroll / demands to move him to their wec team.
@jurekgadzinowski2895
@jurekgadzinowski2895 5 ай бұрын
@@erlinghaaland2268 That would be great, it would make Aston my favourite team on the grid with no doubt and I am sure that i wouldnt be alone with such opinion.
@Loren6898
@Loren6898 5 ай бұрын
You don't know who his father
@connarcomstock161
@connarcomstock161 5 ай бұрын
@@erlinghaaland2268 Sainz has already signed with Merc for 25/26.
@mambofever
@mambofever 5 ай бұрын
High downforce setup - Slower in High downforce corners ☠
@c0mplex564
@c0mplex564 5 ай бұрын
I’m starting to think it’s a skill issue…
@AjayV84
@AjayV84 5 ай бұрын
​@c0mplex564 You think?!
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 5 ай бұрын
That was trully weird to watch. All those corners would benefit from it. It's like he is afraid or has 0 confidence in the car.
@AdventureByJake
@AdventureByJake 5 ай бұрын
Or their high downforce setup is overly draggy. Seems optimised for slow speed corners. It’s curious why they’re running two completely different cars this year. I can only think that this is to help their development program by having twice the data available.
@ghostmw8
@ghostmw8 5 ай бұрын
Verdict: Skill issues
@Coen80
@Coen80 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, Suzuka is a real drivers circuit, and it always shows. The cream always comes to the top on these kind of tracks.
@werner9643
@werner9643 5 ай бұрын
Compared to fernando everybody has skill issues
@kevinmbangue9226
@kevinmbangue9226 5 ай бұрын
@@werner9643lol
@AZBCDEE
@AZBCDEE 5 ай бұрын
@@werner9643🤣🤣🤣🤣sure. He’s had a skill issue for the past decade Had a skill issue beating OCON😂😂😂 AND A ROOKIE😂😂😂😂
@AZBCDEE
@AZBCDEE 5 ай бұрын
@@werner9643how many wins last decade for crylonso?😂😂😂😂
@blenzo8344
@blenzo8344 5 ай бұрын
Stroll is slower in high speed because he's constantly losing lower gears to get rotation. Alonso is getting the rotation with higher gears which allows him to carry way more speed even though he's on lower downforce. Verdict is Alonso is driving with more front end and lower wing than Stroll is willing to do (most likely do to confidence and pure ability) and the lap times are showing every session
@clementmoreno31
@clementmoreno31 5 ай бұрын
Agree but Stroll seems to struggle with his front tires, like the balance or aero balance is completely different !
@backupraceres
@backupraceres 5 ай бұрын
Yep, Alonso always relys on the front axle to feel the car
@SevenMrTee
@SevenMrTee 5 ай бұрын
Skill issue never explained this beautifully.
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 5 ай бұрын
Yes he's plainly slower than Alonso, but this is clearly an issue with setup. Too much downforce and the suspension wasn't set up to cope with it, the car is bumping all over the place in highspeed corners. And to top it off, the extra stiffness made it worse in slow corners as well. Yeah, Stroll isn't as fast generally, but that car wasn't set up well. Not easy to drive it like that and make no mistakes, especially when you're under pressure. It's easy to sit at home and just sh-t on somebody.
@justincharles6585
@justincharles6585 5 ай бұрын
You're correct, you have to overdrive the car to make it perform. Just like last year when Sainz and Leclerc kept running off track at times, they had to over drive the car to be competitive. That's what casuals don't understand
@lorenzorubino2195
@lorenzorubino2195 5 ай бұрын
How can you see if the car is bottoming out from an onboard, with the audio coming from both sides? There is no major steering input differences other than driving style. Worse in slow speed corners base on what? The hairpin? Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso..
@MyRealName
@MyRealName 5 ай бұрын
@@lorenzorubino2195 Who mentioned bottoming out? Only you did. Worse in slow speed corners based on I have eyes and I can see and understand what I see. If you can't, your problem, don't go crazy here. The whole onboard from Stroll is shakier, and that's a fact. It's shakier because you have to make the car stiffer to take the extra downforce to avoid bottoming out and that's a compromise in itself. "Where Stroll braked earlier but clearly less compared to Alonso.." - lmfao :)
@dco1019
@dco1019 5 ай бұрын
It's also a setup they no doubt got pushed to cause stroll couldn't get the hang of the circuit and needed a bit more confidence so more downforce on the car.
@lorenzorubino2195
@lorenzorubino2195 5 ай бұрын
@@MyRealName I assumed that with the "suspension wasn't set up to cope with it" you meant that the car was bottoming out. The fact that you laugh about my phrase makes it clear that you have no idea what you are talking about. Sorry if I sounded aggressive, I was really interested in seeing if there was a technical view behind your first comment.
@rwo5402
@rwo5402 5 ай бұрын
It's not just the higher downforce that slowed Stroll down but also the weight of daddysmoney and the abundand luck of talent.
@jcooper_
@jcooper_ 5 ай бұрын
Stroll has a solid racing career ahead of him - just not in F1. He's obviously very competent, rarely ends up in tangles during the race and is generally quite reliable, but he's just missing that final 1% of pace and edge. He'll be great in WEC or something similar.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 5 ай бұрын
He has terrible awareness and provoked insane accidents because of this. The one he had with Fernando 2 years ago was an airplane crash.
@ThePointlessBox_
@ThePointlessBox_ 5 ай бұрын
*me sitting behind a computer never even set foot on a race track in my life* me: fucking traaash
@judgedrew2076
@judgedrew2076 5 ай бұрын
It definitely looks way closer onboard than the 7 tenths. I thought it would be a bigger difference
@powerjian8193
@powerjian8193 5 ай бұрын
Alonso has top talent and keeps making efforts.
@yuuyama2961
@yuuyama2961 5 ай бұрын
stroll is not so bad driver . alonso is just great . if you have ever played racing sim, only 0.8 second slower than top of the world is not bad time
@mightyOmouse
@mightyOmouse 5 ай бұрын
Nice video. Just out of curiosity , what did You blur out there? An add?
@eraserrx
@eraserrx 5 ай бұрын
He wants us to focus on the speedometer.
@jonathanking8429
@jonathanking8429 5 ай бұрын
Copywrite bro
@joaquingonzalez834
@joaquingonzalez834 5 ай бұрын
​@@jonathanking8429not exactly, as the footage has the F1TV logo and all
@KleinAB
@KleinAB 5 ай бұрын
Short answer - Alonso is a different caliber of driver.
@pietrekk1
@pietrekk1 5 ай бұрын
It could be interesting if they had put high downforce setup for nando
@pharmika
@pharmika 5 ай бұрын
Because one has a very uncommon gift and the other is the son of the owner.
@TheFelix1703
@TheFelix1703 5 ай бұрын
Stroll is braking in every fast corner just a tiny bit and Alonso just yeets it because he trusts the rear of the car to not step out. One guy actually rotates the car from the rear, the other is so afraid, he'd rather overlay on throttle input just so that he doesn't spin off. It's ridiculous to witness Stroll week in and week out perform like this.
@marinekong235
@marinekong235 5 ай бұрын
because he was just strolling along
@vasilevanciu6494
@vasilevanciu6494 5 ай бұрын
I mean.... look at how clean alonso's lines are compared to Strolls, that guy even manages to smoke a front tire while doing a slight left. Like how the f???
@RR-xu5xk
@RR-xu5xk 5 ай бұрын
Alonso looks so much smoother on the steering wheel.
@dezpotizmOFheaven
@dezpotizmOFheaven 5 ай бұрын
Stroll ran higher downforce setup and still is slower through the S's section the whole time. 😅
@celo1390
@celo1390 5 ай бұрын
Como em esportes de velocidade, décimos, centésimo fazem total diferença!
@dopico87
@dopico87 5 ай бұрын
The real question is. Why now?? Why not 3-4 years ago with Vettel? Stroll is worst now than then? Is Alonso faster than Vettel?
@yassineyassou2411
@yassineyassou2411 5 ай бұрын
Cuz Alonzo is just one of the Best pilot ever… And stroll is just stroll
@abk009
@abk009 5 ай бұрын
alonso's hand movements are far more smooth then strolls but the thing is he is close. stroll is young but if he's not able to perform better in 2 years he's future is going to be not very bright...
@CockMcBallsddd
@CockMcBallsddd 5 ай бұрын
The high downforce did let Stroll make some great looking but ultimately meaningless passes in the s curves during the race. Awesome video man. Your channel is a one of a kind in your content AND the quality. I love it.
@princemay73
@princemay73 5 ай бұрын
One is F2 caliber and the other F1 champion caliber
@benfrese3573
@benfrese3573 5 ай бұрын
On the other hand he somehow managed to out qualify the Fernando Alonso three times in 2023.
@connarcomstock161
@connarcomstock161 5 ай бұрын
Yet again we get treated to why the *SPASTIC WINDOWLICKER* needs to GOOOOOOO!
@noyes4968
@noyes4968 5 ай бұрын
RPM? Stroll also MUST BE inbred
@ahmadsalman5121
@ahmadsalman5121 5 ай бұрын
best rookie of all year
@Blackearbaiya
@Blackearbaiya 5 ай бұрын
Daddys cash is giving the car too much weight
@noisettehawk22
@noisettehawk22 5 ай бұрын
I guess your car is light then
@AleMattia
@AleMattia 5 ай бұрын
Stroll don't deserve this seat! Drugovich deserved! 🇧🇷
@Captainriad
@Captainriad 5 ай бұрын
Whenever I hear the name drugovich . I can't feel he's Brazilian. I'm sorry . 😂😂 He's originally from east Europe I guess
@yelistener
@yelistener 5 ай бұрын
2:50 Sorry it's 3-1 so far in 2024, not 4-0 because Stroll beat Alonso in Australia Q3 this year. I forgot about it when making this vid.
@problemforyou
@problemforyou 5 ай бұрын
Unforgivable. Unsubscribing.
@alvarorey9308
@alvarorey9308 5 ай бұрын
Understandable!
@Elexic
@Elexic 5 ай бұрын
⬆️The duality of man⬆️
@ethanmathiotte
@ethanmathiotte 5 ай бұрын
Just yelistener, why the engine of Alonso is like Honda ( logic ) but the stroll is more like Mercedes for me, can you tell me why ?
@unthenner5519
@unthenner5519 5 ай бұрын
Then you should've gone off stats not off memory dude!
@srisudharsan6115
@srisudharsan6115 5 ай бұрын
Alternative Title: Why is Stroll so much slower than Alonso "all the time" Edit : This aged well at the Miami GP
@ShivamhunxD
@ShivamhunxD 5 ай бұрын
ALL THE TIME YOU HAVE TO LEAVE THE SPACE (Stroll continues to leave 0.770 in timing sheet) 🗣️🔥🥶👹🔨
@justincharles6585
@justincharles6585 5 ай бұрын
​@@ShivamhunxDholy shit good one😂
@wile123456
@wile123456 5 ай бұрын
Because he is simply going for a stroll
@ibraheemh5586
@ibraheemh5586 5 ай бұрын
Tbh he outqualified and was ahead of Alonso in Melbourne and in the other races this season he wasn’t far off alonsos pace
@CockMcBallsddd
@CockMcBallsddd 5 ай бұрын
STroll really isn't a whole lot slower most of the time. He's usually within 2 tenths. But I know you guys don't care about accuracy or the truth, you just wanna talk shit.
@vamositalia4600
@vamositalia4600 5 ай бұрын
Stroll's team radio in the race is the funniest I've heard in a while, that voice crack at end🤣🤣🤣
@Coen80
@Coen80 5 ай бұрын
It's so cute as well that he tries to be like his big brother Alonso 🥰🥰
@jefferson2214
@jefferson2214 5 ай бұрын
Its not cute, hes trying to act like kimi or alonso without having the skill backup
@AJzilllaPro
@AJzilllaPro 5 ай бұрын
@@jefferson2214No he isn’t.
@memolano100
@memolano100 5 ай бұрын
I know, his high pitch also. He sounds like a cartoon. Someone should animate that audio.
@AKK5I
@AKK5I 5 ай бұрын
GP2 ENGINE! GP2!
@sirmounted8499
@sirmounted8499 5 ай бұрын
strolling around the track
@ramezehab662
@ramezehab662 5 ай бұрын
last stint in Japan stroll had softs and Alonso had hards , not in a single lap stroll managed to put a lap that was faster than alonso's , and alonso was slowing down to give piastri drs
@TXR_078
@TXR_078 5 ай бұрын
Because he was fighting everyone you idiot
@23-DJ
@23-DJ 5 ай бұрын
that is just unacceptable
@ErickMcNerney
@ErickMcNerney 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, even though everyone was saying the hard was the better tire. Softs were atrocious in Japan - because of the high deg. I'm not sure how much information can be gained by this comparison. It's not as big of a deal as you make it out to be. The strat on his side of the garage was pretty perplexing.
@the4GIVEN
@the4GIVEN 5 ай бұрын
​@@ErickMcNerney they are pretty useless in a race setting because of the deg. on a lap to lap basis they are a lot quicker than hards.
@haru69380
@haru69380 5 ай бұрын
jesus christ alonso alone is making lot of money in the championship for aston hes worth everypenny to aston
@satanswolf
@satanswolf 5 ай бұрын
AM with the current pairing is braking even, Alonso is making what Stroll is destroying
@xhowitisx
@xhowitisx 5 ай бұрын
Unfortunately, Aston don't need money, which is why Lawrence throws money away every time he let's his son 'race' the car.
@R9R1
@R9R1 5 ай бұрын
Its like they're in a different category
@misawajason
@misawajason 5 ай бұрын
The difference between talent and daddy's money
@joetri10
@joetri10 5 ай бұрын
The difference between Car setup and car set up lol
@misawajason
@misawajason 5 ай бұрын
@@joetri10 Or daddy's money
@joetri10
@joetri10 5 ай бұрын
@@misawajason I'm going to go with set up, but then i know the sport so i have the advantage
@misawajason
@misawajason 5 ай бұрын
@@joetri10 You know the sport so that means you word is the gospel. Got it. Talent has nothing to do with set up then? Years of grinding to be able to find a good set up vs. years of being put in machines because of daddy's money and being told what set up to run. Back to my original statement...the difference between talent and daddy's money.
@joetri10
@joetri10 5 ай бұрын
@@misawajason No i know the sport which means i know what i'm talking about over a guy who just spouts about money because it sounds like the correct answer xD.. The concept of the car centers around Fernando, because that's why he's there... They both have very different driving styles... Lance is the struggling one. This is an conversation that's older than time itself and barely anyone who talks really understands this concept and they never want to. Instead of putting time and effort into learning about something, they just default to 'He's BAD!' and think thats enough. I dont understand how you can become a fan of a sport so technical and not give a damn about it at the same time.. It would drive me crazy.
@ronbelanger4113
@ronbelanger4113 5 ай бұрын
Zero pressure to truly perform. Hope he goes to WEC soon.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 5 ай бұрын
Poor wec
@maximogiachino5085
@maximogiachino5085 5 ай бұрын
Don´t undervalue wec like that...
@TeamSenke
@TeamSenke 5 ай бұрын
he should be in formula 2
@Willbrse
@Willbrse 5 ай бұрын
As someone who watches other series... no. He needs to retire. The guys in other series are professionals too. Hoping this guy goes anywhere else is disrespectful towards these other series.
@Zero_Ninety
@Zero_Ninety 5 ай бұрын
What's the WEC ever done to you?
@omerozgor
@omerozgor 5 ай бұрын
2:50 actually stroll beat alonso in qualifying in melbourne this year. It is 3-1 so far.
@durodesduvo8424
@durodesduvo8424 5 ай бұрын
Oh you’re right Alonso went wide or something.
@yelistener
@yelistener 5 ай бұрын
Oh damn, I forgot about it. My memory sucks sometimes.
@Magic_Alonso
@Magic_Alonso 5 ай бұрын
@@yelistenerits fine ur videos are epic
@_exttt
@_exttt 5 ай бұрын
​@@yelistenerAny chance of a comparison between stroll and Alonso in Monza quali last year? believe there was like an 8 tenth gap between them in Q1
@TheAYM91
@TheAYM91 5 ай бұрын
Alonso damaged his car by going wide but it was still a terrible qualifying by Stroll. He qualified behind even Tsunoda.
@ask.repeat
@ask.repeat 5 ай бұрын
Suzuka is the ultimate drivers track, Stroll’s Achilles heel.
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 5 ай бұрын
Perez almost on pole? Finally the great drivers are rising to the top 🙄. It's a car and setup track, always has been.
@ask.repeat
@ask.repeat 5 ай бұрын
@@Malc180s Yeah don’t listen to what any of the current or ex-F1 drivers say. You know best.
@Malc180s
@Malc180s 5 ай бұрын
@@ask.repeat Perez truly is an elite driver, you said if mate
@Alonso_The_GOAT
@Alonso_The_GOAT 5 ай бұрын
It was. Now it rewards the most stable car.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 5 ай бұрын
@@Malc180s DELULU
@jean.l4681
@jean.l4681 5 ай бұрын
The answer is in the question
@mattiabranchini7347
@mattiabranchini7347 5 ай бұрын
Honestly Stroll's lap is not bad. It's just that Alonso is still very quick and there're a lot of small things which he does better and that in the course of a lap add up to the final deficit. Kids in the comments saying Stroll is a bad driver have no idea how good someone like Alonso is.
@ajw1045
@ajw1045 5 ай бұрын
This is F1 mate. There's no room for drivers who aren't near Alonso's level.
@STheRadi
@STheRadi 5 ай бұрын
@@ajw1045 Considering just two or three of the current drivers are near/on Alonso's level I'd say there's some room, it's just that Stroll is not even near, he is miles away.
@noobednatherium4082
@noobednatherium4082 5 ай бұрын
Stroll is legit bad, they're better drivers on the sidelines
@mattiabranchini7347
@mattiabranchini7347 5 ай бұрын
​@@ajw1045Imo just Ham, Ver, Lec, Nor, Rus, Sai are close for worse or better to Alonso's level. That would mean we'd have F1 races with 7 drivers. I don't really see the point of it. It's true though that probably there're rookies with more potential than Stroll.
@takecourage92
@takecourage92 5 ай бұрын
​@@mattiabranchini7347Ocon was much closer to Alonso when they were teammates. Stroll is down there with Sergeant and Zhou in the conversation for worst driver currently racing.
@Spartan_117--chief
@Spartan_117--chief 5 ай бұрын
Love these kind of comparison videos dude, Nice work.
@TheDarioHenrique
@TheDarioHenrique 5 ай бұрын
Because he's a terrible driver, I hope I helped 🤓☝🏻
@ABYTE64
@ABYTE64 5 ай бұрын
Is bad, but not the worse
@huehuehue7451
@huehuehue7451 5 ай бұрын
I'd like to word it more positively, Stroll has the skill of an average F2 driver while Alonso shows everyone why people call f1 drivers as best in the world
@TheDarioHenrique
@TheDarioHenrique 5 ай бұрын
@@ABYTE64 Aston Martin lost 4⁰ position in the constructors championship last year because of it, the same thing occurred by 6⁰ position in 2022 and 3⁰ position again in 2020
@yassking04
@yassking04 5 ай бұрын
​@@huehuehue7451I also would like to see Stroll getting awesome results, but he is terrible in consistency. Everybody says that he's unskilled, he doesn't know how to drive etc... but he's actually very good, don't forget that he got the pole position in the hardest qualifying in the last 20+years (Turkey 2020) beating wet driving monsters like Verstappen and Hamilton, but he's not able to keep those skills, and he can be able to move from Ayrton Senna to Yuji Ide in a matter of laps.
@_mevt.33
@_mevt.33 5 ай бұрын
A higher downforce rear wing doesn't affect the top speed as much in a DRS straight tho Given Alonso likes understeer it's quite possible that Lance ran a much higher front-wing.
@_mevt.33
@_mevt.33 5 ай бұрын
When will they fire the windowlicker
@zibingotaeam3716
@zibingotaeam3716 19 күн бұрын
alonso has said in spanish media that he doesn't care for under- or oversteer - he'll drive it the way it is fastest the reason why the Renault cars he got WDCs in were so understeery is because it was the fastest way to get that particular car around the track
@Yetabronz
@Yetabronz 5 ай бұрын
Plenty of times that for example, sainz was outqualified by leclerc by more than 8 tenths and nobody was judging him this harshly. Stroll had a specially bad weekend but he’s judged like he’s supposed to beat Alonso every week when he clearly can’t. You really are judged based on your teammates performance and Lawrence did his son dirty all these years lmao
@justinburley8659
@justinburley8659 5 ай бұрын
People quickly forgot how Stroll beat Alonso the weekend before
@AJzilllaPro
@AJzilllaPro 5 ай бұрын
@@justinburley8659Yeah so it’s 3-1 to Alonso which isn’t even that bad.
@csvigneshwar3390
@csvigneshwar3390 5 ай бұрын
​@@justinburley8659That one was not on track, If George had been more carefull, Alonso would finished ahead. That said I am with Stoll in Japan, that poor guy got his car setup wrong and struggled.
@justinburley8659
@justinburley8659 5 ай бұрын
@@csvigneshwar3390 He beat Fernando in qualifying and was ahead until the safety car benefitted Alonso
@FailedRacers
@FailedRacers 5 ай бұрын
Looks like Stroll's setup was bad too though. I can see lots of understeer. To me this looks like they've chucked on a whole load of downforce at the rear without matching it at the front. Then of course there's the obvious skill gap, but I can definitely see an Understeering Aston on the left.
@GD_HdF
@GD_HdF 5 ай бұрын
Btw, the straight line speed difference isn't that big. And it's not just because of the way Stroll exited corners.
@amvalkyrie6496
@amvalkyrie6496 5 ай бұрын
Yeah, and to be fair that was Alonso's 6th or so qualifying run and a masterpiece of a lap
@pencil6703
@pencil6703 5 ай бұрын
Stroll was trying new car updates this week, that's why
@MrThedestroy3r
@MrThedestroy3r 5 ай бұрын
@@amvalkyrie6496That was Fernando’s Q1 lap mate. His first one actually as he only did a single attempt in Q1.
@MrThedestroy3r
@MrThedestroy3r 5 ай бұрын
@@pencil6703Also Fernando. Both were on identical cars. Stroll got the updates in FP1 and Fernando in FP3, so he had a full session less to try them.
@svitii
@svitii 5 ай бұрын
Just curious, why did you blur the video on the back straight? Did some Alonso groupies flash their boobs there or something? 😂 Great video as always mate, keep it up!
@davezhu7651
@davezhu7651 5 ай бұрын
It just shows how Alonso is the GOAT
@AndrewSyAFoek
@AndrewSyAFoek 5 ай бұрын
Song? Its fire!
@lovrinjo685
@lovrinjo685 5 ай бұрын
Song name: qsebenois-we good
@SweetFlexZ
@SweetFlexZ 5 ай бұрын
Remember, Stroll was very close to Vettel.
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 5 ай бұрын
Speaks more about Seb.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
He wasn’t really. Vettel was in Q3 in 2022 while Stroll was 19th.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
@@lukavujeva6584and what does Alonso losing to Ocon (who was destroyed by Ricciardo, Perez and beaten by Gasly) say about him?
@lukavujeva6584
@lukavujeva6584 5 ай бұрын
@@paperplane-db8qf you are not serious now!!? With Alonso having how many PU and gearbox retirements? Alonso was 0.220 sec faster on average in qualifying and out-qualified Ocon. 15-7 was the fastest lap for Alo in the race, while the race result was 8-8. The issue was that Fernando had several key mechanical failures where he lost 30-40 points relative to Ocon, and almost every time such retirement occurred, he was supposed to gain good points and was in front of Ocon. If just 1/4 of those unlucky retirements didn't happen, he would have more points than Ocon at the end of the season. Simply put, those two do not fit into the same sentence. It’s like thinking that 16 GB of Ram on Windows or Android is faster than 12 of Apple.
@Axel22250
@Axel22250 2 ай бұрын
@@lukavujeva6584Bro ain’t nobody reading all that
@benjaminklein6164
@benjaminklein6164 5 ай бұрын
The reason is: Alonso can drive F1 cars. Stroll is a young boy who is unmotivated and relies on his dad's wallet, but as long as the profit is right, it's acceptable.
@yatmanilyas154
@yatmanilyas154 5 ай бұрын
Alonso aracın ön tarafının yol tutuşunu kaybetmeden dönüyor virajları ama stoll kaybediyor yol tutuşu. Özellikle ilk sektör, birbirini takip eden virajlarda çok belli. Alonso beklemiyor dönmek için. Fren noktasında o kadar güzel konumlandırıyor ki aracı virajı gaz vererek dönüyor. Bu yeni kurallar gereği zaten böyle kullanmak lazım. Adam işi çok iyi biliyor.
@MathewBT81
@MathewBT81 5 ай бұрын
Great comparison, really easy to visually see how much Stroll is struggling with wrestling the wheel vs Alonso's smoother inputs 🏆
@oscaraurelio8869
@oscaraurelio8869 5 ай бұрын
Does this mean that while Alonso considers his car as a tool to get the job done, Stroll spends his time battling against his car, as if he thought it was this which would prevent him to get points?
@JuTakii
@JuTakii 5 ай бұрын
@@oscaraurelio8869no
@yezzytatta8035
@yezzytatta8035 5 ай бұрын
Difference between given seat and earned seat.
@Devilfish6666
@Devilfish6666 5 ай бұрын
hes worse than Massa or Kimi relative to Alonso and thats saying a lot as these 2 were completely taken apart by the man from Oviedo. Strolls has to be swapped for smbd that is at least a bit closer....If they can get Sainz it would be huge
@iiAscari
@iiAscari 5 ай бұрын
Stroll = Troll. Blud drives like a GOAT (at times), while most of the times he drives like Nikita Mazepin.
@skela098
@skela098 5 ай бұрын
You have a double world champion racing driver (who won titles against Schumacher), and just a very good racing driver (none of us writhing here would never be even close to Stroll's driving skills, just because he is in racing for 20 years, with unlimited budget), so what is exactly unusual or weird?
@pspcow
@pspcow 5 ай бұрын
I picture fat men criticizing footballers, same idea
@barbagiggia
@barbagiggia 5 ай бұрын
I would outperform Lance with just 1 month of intense training/driving and i'm just a 2 times regional kart italian champion.
@AugmentedGravity
@AugmentedGravity 5 ай бұрын
Because he is lance stroll and he is Fernando Alonso.
@AMGU2B
@AMGU2B 5 ай бұрын
I don't recall so much talk about Stroll being a terrible driver before Alonso joined AM.
@vamositalia4600
@vamositalia4600 5 ай бұрын
That's absolutely embarrassing, Alonso is almost 43... imagine if he was still 30/31 like in his Ferrari days, Stroll would be more than 1 second behind🤦. And then I don't know what kind of setup was that... how was that a high-downforce setup???🤔 the car had so much understeer.
@fotbitr9052
@fotbitr9052 5 ай бұрын
He’s always been so hack and slash with his steering wheel - unbelievable to think he was on a higher downforce set up with the amount of adjustments he makes during a corner, just pick a direction dude!
@kilierloop
@kilierloop 5 ай бұрын
Stroll probably thought that he can have almost similar performance like went was with Vettel
@alvarorey9308
@alvarorey9308 5 ай бұрын
Stroll discovered why Vettel got annihilated by Leclerc despite 4 extra years of experience at Ferrari, and why Alonso was competitive with Norris & Ocon despite having infinite levels of bad luck!
@Alonso_The_GOAT
@Alonso_The_GOAT 5 ай бұрын
@@alvarorey9308 Vettel also got beaten by Ricciardo in 2014. No blown diffuser no party.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
Stroll was P19 in Suzuka when Vettel was in Q3. Vettel just checked out after he announced his retirement but still scored more than double his points.
@paperplane-db8qf
@paperplane-db8qf 5 ай бұрын
@@alvarorey9308Alonso didn’t have bad luck in 2021 and was only a few points ahead of Ocon lmao. Alonso just an Overrated fraud who lost to midfield teammates and a rookie
@alvarorey9308
@alvarorey9308 5 ай бұрын
@@paperplane-db8qf If Alonso is an "overrated fraud" than how does Vettel look that the gap between him and Raikkonen and Stroll than Alonso did!
@DarkBatman467
@DarkBatman467 4 ай бұрын
The gap is very low but there is 14 place difference
@D0n_k3yyy
@D0n_k3yyy 5 ай бұрын
2 things why Stroll is slower than Alonso. 1. Car Setup 2. Terrible driver.
@slimstrait780
@slimstrait780 5 ай бұрын
No one told him to run so much wing
@whitesse13gaming91
@whitesse13gaming91 5 ай бұрын
​@@slimstrait780 the team did.
@jurekgadzinowski2895
@jurekgadzinowski2895 5 ай бұрын
Not terrible. He is below average in F1 grid. Not the worst or 2nd worst.
@valtteri_its_james
@valtteri_its_james 5 ай бұрын
Comparison between kite with fighter jet would be more closer than this
@darshang1262
@darshang1262 5 ай бұрын
Lack of talent
@Mudz728.
@Mudz728. 5 ай бұрын
Stroll needs to go he’s rubbish. Constantly moans
@theunknown21329
@theunknown21329 5 күн бұрын
Lord Raghunathan will also beat Stroll
@eulogp9888
@eulogp9888 5 ай бұрын
Crazy how small 0.7 seconds are.
@benjaminleparlier7975
@benjaminleparlier7975 5 ай бұрын
Sometimes you get a gp2 engine and others you get a gp2 driver
@barryalangroves8759
@barryalangroves8759 5 ай бұрын
One driver has awesome talent the other driver has no talent
@Kittysune12
@Kittysune12 5 ай бұрын
because alonso is new lawrence stroll son
@Frietpan
@Frietpan 5 ай бұрын
stroll is literally non stop twitching at the wheel... alonso isnt. tweek should go home and drink his coffee.
@saku0207
@saku0207 5 ай бұрын
Alonso has much better entries and exits in every corner. Alonso is simply the much better driver.
@The_Noticer.
@The_Noticer. 5 ай бұрын
Why would you run more downforce than required to break traction with the tyres? There literally isn't a reason to run excessive downforce because the tyres will eventually be the weak point. This is pretty much driver setup 101...
@marcianof1rst
@marcianof1rst 4 ай бұрын
Why do cars have different sounds if it's the same engine?
@fiv5ten
@fiv5ten 3 ай бұрын
Mainly because of different exhaust shapes
@zrxnxmd
@zrxnxmd 5 ай бұрын
Q: Why is Troll so much slower...... Answer Below Keep going Because he's this much Lower than any other driver on the Grid.
@АлексейКастевич
@АлексейКастевич 5 ай бұрын
Stroll is actually fast when on his day, he has a pole position in the wet, but he never seemed to have fully understood how to drive these ground effect cars.
@vgerster
@vgerster 5 ай бұрын
Feels similar to Daniel, who had much better success before the current ground effect era
@willho4202
@willho4202 5 ай бұрын
Even with a higher downforce setup he got absolutely railed in sector 1, Stroll never fails to entertain
@nmelol
@nmelol 5 ай бұрын
how do you know what setup do they use?
@willho4202
@willho4202 5 ай бұрын
@@nmelol Stroll mentioned it in an interview after the race, saying his higher downforce setup meant his straight line speed was awful
@benitocamelas7238
@benitocamelas7238 5 ай бұрын
could be Stroll, could be Vandoorne, could be Massa, could be Ocon or could be Raikkones, doesnt matter who you compare against Alonso.. all of them will look like the same crap.. you are comparing Alonso's fellow to GOAT
@carstenbech7757
@carstenbech7757 5 ай бұрын
At 1:48 Stroll is going 216 KMH at 10389 RMP in 5. gear, and Alonzo is 211 KMH at 11641 RPM in 5. gear, seems like a big difference in gear ratio ? What am I missing ?
@davissi
@davissi 5 ай бұрын
I quote Alonso 'Stroll is a potential future world champion' (February 2023)...are we saying Alonso doesn't know what he's talking about?
@PsychedeliKompot
@PsychedeliKompot 5 ай бұрын
The difference between the cars wasn't as simple as mere setup differences. Stroll's car had "upgrades" and the team hadn't figured out how to set up the car to work with them yet. Compare this to their previous shared quali sessions that year and you can easily tell that their gap isn't actually this big. Stroll did beat Alonso before after all, and not just in the Australia Q3 session where Alonso had damage (which was Alonso's own fault). Last year, their average quali gap was on the larger side of the grid, but still not the biggest or among the biggest 3.
@gopr3117
@gopr3117 5 ай бұрын
It must be something to do with tyre warmup or something? Alonso can maintain the operating window and Stroll can’t? We know Stroll is quick over one lap on his day, so there must be a technical reason why Alonso’s sector 1 is faster - and not just “Stroll bad”.
@VassilisSiomos-r2r
@VassilisSiomos-r2r 5 ай бұрын
Fernando is faster than you
@luisanvicente
@luisanvicente 5 ай бұрын
I don't think he had that high down force setup. He was indeed second in race in terms of max speed with 333km/h. He shouldn't blame the car that much. Alonso is doing miracles with it but that doesn't mean the other one isn't lacking performance....
@tadge-rico
@tadge-rico 5 ай бұрын
Alonso appears to be slower in, keeping the car settled, and then quicker to accelerate out. I think Stroll is trying too hard to go fast, when he would probably do a lot better if he just concentrated on being smooth. slow=smooth=fast!
@jean-baptistedelbos8050
@jean-baptistedelbos8050 5 ай бұрын
guys, he is not such a bad driver. Alonso is one of the 2-3 best driver and has a lot of experience. Lance won the F3 euro series with 14 victories before come in F1. Maybe the car does not fit with his driving style. of course, maybe he would not be in F1 if his father was not the owner of an F1 team, but he is not a bad driver for sure.
@Andre_The_Millennial
@Andre_The_Millennial 5 ай бұрын
Stroll's steering inputs ALWAYS look abrupt and janky. There's no way you can be fast driving like that.
@psk5746
@psk5746 5 ай бұрын
So you have one of the most experienced and fast team mates in F1 history and you don't learn anything from their car setup ... heck I'd start by copying it exactly!
@skidooboy8977
@skidooboy8977 5 ай бұрын
garbage analysis. of course he’s slower. alonso had entry 1-4 kms above strolls depending on the corner.. 2-10 analysis score
@91TheClash
@91TheClash 5 ай бұрын
I realy do hate that guy, but to be honest: I dont see a mistake from Stroll this time. It seems that the setup was very worse for this track. Also it´s 3:1 not 4:0. I really dont want to see this guy in F1 anymore, but he is not that worse like it seems..
@10MasterM
@10MasterM 5 ай бұрын
I’m racing go-karts myself sometimes, and the track’s record holder is much quicker than me, I wish I could the telemetry data comparison to see where he’s gaining on me 😅 To me it seems impossible to go any quicker.
@Ding_Bat
@Ding_Bat 5 ай бұрын
Simple answer is that Alonso has talent, while Stroll only has money. Money can get you a seat you don’t deserve, AND keep you there, but that’s it.
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