Vingegaard DESTROYS Tadej Pogacar on Col du Granon | Tour de France 2022 Stage 11

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Lanterne Rouge

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Lanterne Rouge presents highlights of Stage 11 of Tour de France 2022 where jonas vingegaard and primoz roglic attacked Tadej Pogacar over and over.
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@LanterneRougeCycling
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@bengkeljowo2712
@bengkeljowo2712 Жыл бұрын
Mantap tanjakan tinggi speed masih stabil YAA SAYYIDII YAA ROSULALLOH
@krprice
@krprice Жыл бұрын
K😮😮😮boho
@mmmbass6068
@mmmbass6068 2 жыл бұрын
Stages like this is why we watch the TdF. And the drama surely isn’t done yet.
@l.v.3952
@l.v.3952 2 жыл бұрын
Why we watch cycling*
@bakkels
@bakkels 2 жыл бұрын
That's definitely why I watch stages like this. Year after year. It's only once in every 10 years it actually unfolds like this though. Still worth it.
@rezadyn87
@rezadyn87 2 жыл бұрын
Too bad their broadcast team is garbage
@jlsilvia
@jlsilvia 2 жыл бұрын
Epic stage. Wow!
@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS
@MAYDAYSIMULATIONS 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@NeverTakeNoShortcuts
@NeverTakeNoShortcuts 2 жыл бұрын
This stage brought to tears to my eyes
@thebr0wnhornet
@thebr0wnhornet 2 жыл бұрын
The moment wout rog and the fdj train rolled past the gc guys was hilarious, wish you had the clip in there
@sixate
@sixate 2 жыл бұрын
Heck of a stage, can't wait for the next one!
@jesmarina
@jesmarina 2 жыл бұрын
Just a thrill to watch, all the way through. Pogacar got a reality check on this stage - this is where he lost the Tour of '22. The battle next year is going to be fantastic.
@beautifulworldwithollan9032
@beautifulworldwithollan9032 2 жыл бұрын
Props to Pogi , he fought alone like a man JV was really assaulting all out 😅😅😅
@Vipers_Pit
@Vipers_Pit 2 жыл бұрын
Finally a Danish rider in Yellow. You I’m Danish. Go Jonas
@talk2tim
@talk2tim 2 жыл бұрын
nice video! and analysis
@bjsr126
@bjsr126 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta respect Roglic staying in this tour for the team despite the immense pain he's dealing with. Despite being dropped before the last climb, he was instrumental for Jumbo today.
@kgarg92
@kgarg92 2 жыл бұрын
I wish kruijswijk and kuss are there more because Roglic seems to have given all he can...cant believe kuss is not there like 2 yrs ago.
@bjsr126
@bjsr126 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgarg92 Roglic said every pedal stroke was like getting stabbed in the back and that's just in the saddle.. imagine the pain out of the saddle applying force through that shoulder. Sheesh.
@jlsilvia
@jlsilvia 2 жыл бұрын
@@kgarg92 that’s the beauty of this. Jumbo hasn’t had to control anything yet and they’ve been able to completely shelter & save Sepp to this point. We’ve seen a lot of Rafa Majka to this point afront the Yellow Group. Now we’ll see a healthy dose of the Durango Kid up there!
@schuey999
@schuey999 2 жыл бұрын
Primoz!!!
@nt78stonewobble
@nt78stonewobble 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, Roglic certainly seemed like he gave it his all. I actually have a hard time finding any riders who aren't pretty likeable anymore? There's just not the same drama queens and "bad guys" in the field anymore as there used to be. Which is a good thing, but in that regard there's less drama. :D
@jealius4340
@jealius4340 2 жыл бұрын
this is going to be studied as a textbook example of how to beat a stronger rider when you have the stronger team. Everything from the Van Aert satellite breakaway from km 0 to the relentless one/two attacking at the bottom of the Galibier. Even Van Aert falling back during the Galibier decent to pick up Roglic so he could help with the final climb. What a master piece!
@clementdenis4212
@clementdenis4212 2 жыл бұрын
But in the end it also relied on Vingegaard being the strongest rider today.
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 2 жыл бұрын
Quite right. They threw the kitchen sink at Pogacar and finally he cracked. Team matters.
@Breesey
@Breesey 2 жыл бұрын
@@clementdenis4212 but one of the reasons Vingegard was able to be the stronger climber in the end was that he and Roglic needled Pogacar early on who kept retaliating and burnt all his matches. It was a masterful strategy, beautiful to watch.
@clementdenis4212
@clementdenis4212 2 жыл бұрын
@@Breesey of course ! It was brilliant racing from Jumbo-Visma ! I just wanted to point out that the most brilliant strategy can not work if your leader is not able to deliver at the end.
@mar_man813
@mar_man813 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think everything worked for TJV except for Wout -- he paced Roglic back which was irrelevant. I would've rather left Roglic on his own and had Wout with Sepp & Jonas to help pull Jonas away even earlier than he did.
@rexcorkil
@rexcorkil 2 жыл бұрын
@Lanterne Rouge - I just caught up on today - eurosport, gcn, TdF itself, then your recap dropped and it is, as usual, head and shoulders above the rest. How you fit so much high quality information into an 8 minute video; its genius talent you have, lad... Chapeau
@Jonifico
@Jonifico 2 жыл бұрын
I think the secret is his amateur passion over super-slick presentation. You can hear he loves this. Those other people barely get past the surface.
@Jonifico
@Jonifico 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Odenfield Eurosport's a tad worse imo
@smeetsnoud1
@smeetsnoud1 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Odenfield the Tour de France channel learned the ways of F1 style content and I really dig it.
@Tibovl
@Tibovl 2 жыл бұрын
@Paul Odenfield Do they really have the money? Their hilights are so short they consistently miss major points in the race and lack time to demonstrate proper insight. They also have had some incredibly amateurish audio on the women's recaps in the past.
@draregrevtaam1147
@draregrevtaam1147 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tibovl He also takes his time. This is up quite a bit after the stage, but I always prefer high quality over fast poor production.
@markdonovan1540
@markdonovan1540 2 жыл бұрын
TJV has been building up to this, what an epic stunner of a TDF stage. Jonas and Nairo were so strong. Shout out to Geraint Thomas who is still in the GC contention.
@wattier8218
@wattier8218 2 жыл бұрын
I think everobody is suprised by thomas still being there, but i dont think he will stand a chance. He cant beat any GC guys like Pogi and Vinge 1v1 and even if he has Barle and Ganna, they cant beat Vingegaard having WVA and Roglic
@elonif4125
@elonif4125 2 жыл бұрын
@@wattier8218 Yeah, but with the 40 km ITT he should be able to podium.
@MarriedWithBackpacks
@MarriedWithBackpacks 2 жыл бұрын
Thomas, 3rd place in Paris! I really hope I'm right!
@wargey3431
@wargey3431 2 жыл бұрын
@@wattier8218 he can climb we all know that he won the tour on alpe d’huez and he’s one of the strongest time Trialers amongst the GC favourites can’t see any reason why he wouldn’t make podium especially if Pog cracks again today
@wattier8218
@wattier8218 2 жыл бұрын
@@wargey3431 Pogi only cracks if jumbo puts their whole team to it and i didnt say that he wont make podium, i said he wont be a challenger for the tour. Lets hope Jumbo has to work hard for vingegaard. If not and they are able to keep on launching like this, the tour will be over by today
@nowave7
@nowave7 2 жыл бұрын
I think that Jumbo played this stage to perfection. I remember the two previous years, they were trying to wear down Pogačar by riding a hard but steady pace almost throughout all of the mountain stages, no matter how hot the day was, or how high up in the mountains they were. And back then, Pogačar also didn't have a lot of teammates around him, but he could keep up with that steady pace. I think they finally learned from their mistakes, and they tried a completely different strategy this time around. These attacks came early, and came hard, and just kept on coming! They really wore him down, and this was the perfect stage to execute such an attack, and Jumbo really couldn't have played it better!
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
That was only 2 year ago, last year JV soon didn't have the team anymore but just hanging on and see where Vingegaard stranded. I think last year they likely would have tried a different tactic too, though impossible to know for sure since then there was just one GC leader for them initially.
@mar_man813
@mar_man813 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, this was the anti-Ineos and thank god for that. Exciting one two bursts that provided excitement and forced Pogacar to cover all of them on his own. In the past TJV has just pulled Pogacar to within 1km of the summit and then wondered why Primoz or Jonas couldn't get a few seconds.
@famousatmidnight15
@famousatmidnight15 2 жыл бұрын
Pog should have let Rog go up the road. Then Thomas and co. would come into play. He tried to do it all himself, he needs to draw other riders in to assist.
@martinsolden77
@martinsolden77 2 жыл бұрын
@@famousatmidnight15 He would have lost the tour right there if he did, remember Rog would have had two riders who would fall back right away and wout would have killed any team between the mountains.. G. Thomas would not help, they would rater play it defensive and see where the chips land on final mountain.
@Avianthro
@Avianthro 2 жыл бұрын
Pogacar will surely have learned his lesson...not to get suckered into countering every single attack but to keep a strong and steady pace. Those attacks deplete one's reserves too quickly, but only if you let them.
@joelecho
@joelecho 2 жыл бұрын
Something to consider: The fact that WvA is sitting, basically waiting on the other side of the summit put Pogi in a position of threat. If He and Jonas are leading on the road, there is no worry about Jonas attacking because as long as he rides his own pace and stays close, he will close him on the decent. Whereas with WvA waiting there, he feels like he has to ride hard to prevent attacks because even a 10 second gap could turn into a minute+ if Wout is there to power Jonas down the hill. Which is a genius bit of tactics, because if Jonas DOES feel like he can crack Pogi, then Wout is there to take him to the next climb with an even bigger gap, and in that case perhaps even pace him for the first k or so, but even when Jonas DIDN'T attack it still puts Pogi under immense pressure. /edit: You actually talked about this 1 second after I paused to make this comment. :P
@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack
@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack 2 жыл бұрын
When WVA went up the road at the flag drop, why would the entire UAE team just let him go? Was it genius from Jumbo or a failure by UAE?
@Rahul-eh3rf
@Rahul-eh3rf 2 жыл бұрын
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack what UAE team? They have 5 domestiques left for Pogacar. Bjerg and Hirschi have looked absolutely terrible, probably because of sickness. They both finished behind Caleb Ewan today, among the last 5-10 riders to finish barely ahead of the time cut. They could barely do anything. And you cannot spend Majka, Bennett, and Soler when you need them for the mountains. This is when having a joke team like UAE instead of Jumbo superteam hurts you so much
@Jens-hy7dm
@Jens-hy7dm 2 жыл бұрын
@@BizInTheFrontPartyInTheBack There's the small issue of being able to follow or catch WvA when he attacks. They'd have to waste an incredible amount of energy at the beginning of the stage if they want to have a chance to catch him
@MarriedWithBackpacks
@MarriedWithBackpacks 2 жыл бұрын
That UAE team is tired AF. They have been pacing for almost the entire TDF. They already lost a lot of energy. Meanwhile Jumbo could just sit 'easy' in the peleton and save their energy for moments like today. Except WVA, he just has a truckload of energy. That man is a beast. That's what I think.
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ 2 жыл бұрын
Well Pogi could have just let Roglic or Vingegard go at say 60 or 50 km from the finish line. Ride his own pace just like them. Only if they are stronger they will stay before him. I dont believe in a domestique doing anything in stages like this. On the climb its man to man. On the descent it's just going downhill fast. Only for getting food or water they are useful in these stages. It's too though. Pogi maybe would still have lost some time that way but less than now..
@ThomasKeldermanToday
@ThomasKeldermanToday 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best ever stages I have watched
@robbecasteleyn2212
@robbecasteleyn2212 2 жыл бұрын
This was one of the best stages Ive EVER seen my mouth dropped several times, i couldn't believe my eyes. I hope the battle ain't done yet
@jalilsyed01
@jalilsyed01 2 ай бұрын
Watching this in 2024. I can say that Pogi matured and learned his lesson from this stage.
@jobserboy
@jobserboy 2 жыл бұрын
Primoz catching Roglic by surprise 🤌🤌🤌
@DonGroggy
@DonGroggy 2 жыл бұрын
🧐🧐🧐
@ManWalksDogs
@ManWalksDogs 2 жыл бұрын
@@DonGroggy 1:38 😄
@ChristianW1975
@ChristianW1975 2 жыл бұрын
Same person
@pihi42
@pihi42 2 жыл бұрын
If Pogi wins at the end, this will remain one of the highlights of a Tour we haven't seen since the Dark Ages. If he doesn't it will only make him better next year. We can only speculate what this Tour might have looked like with a healthy Roglič.
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 2 жыл бұрын
To old, the young guard are here sadly
@abone2pick
@abone2pick 2 жыл бұрын
Lol so pogi has one bad day and that means roglic would have dominated his ass the last two years ?🤣
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 жыл бұрын
@@iminc5498 I don't know, a Rog at the same level of the last 2 years would have at least finished a close 2nd behind Vingegaard today and with a better ITT, all cards would still be in play imo. At the very least we'd have seen a 2 JV rider podium.
@lukewalker1051
@lukewalker1051 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of the dark ages, these climbs were a lot harder on bicycles made of stone. When men were men.
@aboredperson4202
@aboredperson4202 2 жыл бұрын
@@MDP1702 ummm what? Pogi 's ITTs are actually better. Not by much though. But definetly better.
@hjaltemller7376
@hjaltemller7376 2 жыл бұрын
Kom såååå Vingegaard lålå
@florianvoyer9351
@florianvoyer9351 7 ай бұрын
Always so entertaining to watch again. Looking like a baby whale getting attacked by a group of orcas: relentless and pitiless
@pauljansen1137
@pauljansen1137 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible team performance from TJV.....so damn strong.....
@chrispyy606060606
@chrispyy606060606 2 жыл бұрын
That was a pure tactical racing brilliance by JV today. It’s crazy to think it took the entire team pummelling Pog to make him lose 3 minutes.
@kgarg92
@kgarg92 2 жыл бұрын
They succeeded. 3 minutes is a huge margin. Especially with a climber like Vingegaard. And he isnt too bad at time trial either.
@wargey3431
@wargey3431 2 жыл бұрын
Think of the Team Sky days it’s not crazy to pummel one man and him still today when Movistar had the trident they tried pretty much the same thing against froomey and failed spectacularly And let’s be honest it wasn’t the entire team pummelling him it was mainly Vingergaard and Roglic and it absolutely destroyed Primoz Vingergaard just had better legs than Pog
@ChristianJosephs
@ChristianJosephs 2 жыл бұрын
I actually think while it was a great stage, today is the stage where they have to defend yellow as a team. Today we see if they can pull it through or not :)
@wargey3431
@wargey3431 2 жыл бұрын
@@ChristianJosephs if any team can defend yellow it’s TJV they are in the position team sky were back in the 2010s
@ChristianJosephs
@ChristianJosephs 2 жыл бұрын
@@wargey3431 I totally agree, but I want to see it live today :D Pogi will be on the attack. At some point it will be Pogi vs Vingegaard again late in the stage.
@ProWeAreSo
@ProWeAreSo 2 жыл бұрын
Jonas looks like the home alone kid and Pogi was the Wet bandits this stage
@MarTvOfficial
@MarTvOfficial 2 жыл бұрын
hahahaha
@cpt.slackbladder3187
@cpt.slackbladder3187 2 жыл бұрын
Hyenas picking off a lion, joking 🙃 Jonas was a monster 👹
@kingrafa3938
@kingrafa3938 2 жыл бұрын
LOL People staring at me right now at the bus after reading your comment 😂
@4lc4p0rn
@4lc4p0rn 2 жыл бұрын
over the last 24 hours i think i became a bit more of a pogacar fan. first everyone else complains that the police should have done more after climate activists delay the race for a few minutes, pogacar takes it with a smile and calls it a fun experience. then he looks like he's actually enjoying himself when he makes jokes at the camera while under pressure from all sides. then he still takes the time to come over and congratulate vingegaard after a stage where he cracked completely, and he's bloody smiling genuinely while doing it... AND to top it all off, he announces publicly that he's gonna attack tomorrow. hats off for pogacar, he's shown himself to be a proper sportsman today!
@henkemenke
@henkemenke 2 жыл бұрын
They are just jealouse of pogacar. He made cycling interested agin. Before it was boring
@frankburn6312
@frankburn6312 2 жыл бұрын
He didn’t “crack completely”. Just burned too many matches. Cracked completely =Yates at the Giro
@eonbart
@eonbart 2 жыл бұрын
Could not agree more. I hoped to see him losing time today but I almost felt sad for him on the other side after I saw how much of a sportsman he is.
@4lc4p0rn
@4lc4p0rn 2 жыл бұрын
@@henkemenke who are? also, cycling is interesting when there's genuine competition, im pretty sure you need more than one person to make things competitive.
@frankburn6312
@frankburn6312 2 жыл бұрын
Btw , Simon Yates at the 2018 Giro was wearing the pink jersey at the beginning of stage 19. Froome attacked 80K out and win. Yates finished 35+ minutes down. That’s cracking.
@Nicklasbenstrup
@Nicklasbenstrup 2 жыл бұрын
I can watch this rest of my lifetime - what a day of racing and I'm a really proud Dane 💛
@PeterLarsenJr
@PeterLarsenJr 2 жыл бұрын
Fellow Dane (ancestors ago, yes) here feeling proud with you friend!
@pipolchamp8205
@pipolchamp8205 2 жыл бұрын
i'm a pogi fan but i can't stop watching this video too. the way they relentlessly beat down pogi was a masterpiece. stronger teams will always beat the strongest rider.
@Nicklasbenstrup
@Nicklasbenstrup 2 жыл бұрын
@@pipolchamp8205 I'm a big fam of Pogacar aswell - those who isn't fan of him isn't fan of real cycling! But I just love to see cycling when everyone is going to their limit and even above, no bullshit just let the legs do the talking - that's what we all wanna see 🙌
@Nicklasbenstrup
@Nicklasbenstrup 2 жыл бұрын
@@pipolchamp8205 and Vingegaard showed already last year that's he is good, so we knew what show we could expect this year. But surely Pogacar will fight back and entertain us all - Vive le Tour 💛
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 2 жыл бұрын
Pogi will be an all time great if he comes back from this, if anyone can, he can. With the ITT in his back pocket also, he will still believe
@JR-xv6mv
@JR-xv6mv 2 жыл бұрын
He's already an all-time great. Even if he loses this TdF, he's 23 years old. Heck, he could retire today, and would be an all-time great.
@Daniel-ng8fi
@Daniel-ng8fi 2 жыл бұрын
He's also got them good doctors who will fill him up tonight, so should be at peak levels tomorrow while everyone else is tired
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 2 жыл бұрын
@@JR-xv6mv Hey, I don’t disagree. But this would be insane, for the record I think he comes back and wins. In his interview after the stage, Jonas said he was on the absolute limit following Pogacar in the last 1km of Galibier. Can’t wait for the rest of race
@EejeyDude
@EejeyDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@iminc5498 no Vingegaard didn't say that he was on his absolute limit in the Galibier, what he said was the word "insecure" but what he meant was he wasn't sure if Pogi was on his limit or not that's why he didn't attack, it was at Col du Granon where he said that if he didn't try he won't know and he tried because if he didn't he wouldn't have won. On the Galibier, if you look at Jonas' face he really wasn't on the limit, he was just getting a free ride behind Pogacar, compare that to his face on the last 3km of the Granon, that's where he tried to be close to his limits or at his limit.
@Nytaarsfyrvaerkeri
@Nytaarsfyrvaerkeri 2 жыл бұрын
But Vingegaard has a Better TT after 20 stages.. so nope 😜
@Enigma71559
@Enigma71559 2 жыл бұрын
At 4:07 pretty funny. Pogacar flips his left elbow to Jonas asking him to come through. Jonas shakes his head. "Uh...no." "I'll be 'coming through' a little later though."
@joelbattick7907
@joelbattick7907 2 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂this was a really good take. I noticed this very same thing
@chrisko6439
@chrisko6439 2 жыл бұрын
After having done 6.5 WOW!/kg for over two hours, Lanterne Rouge needed a bit of rest before making this video.
@alesnovak2906
@alesnovak2906 2 жыл бұрын
Now I know how Jonas fans felt to this day.Congrats to Jonas from SLO :)
@mototaco2132
@mototaco2132 2 жыл бұрын
Great team work by Jumbo. I recall doing Alpe D'Huez when I got a chance to visit France, it was a ball buster of a climb.
@nataneley
@nataneley 2 жыл бұрын
Heck yeah
@justfixit5022
@justfixit5022 2 жыл бұрын
Not the Alp D'Huez that's stage 12
@electrocontinuo
@electrocontinuo 2 жыл бұрын
Personally I think Tadej's expression at the end of the stage is more "I FEEL SO ALIVE!!!" than defeat. I'm sure he wants to win but looks like it won't bother him if he doesn't. Enjoying the challenge and pushing himself to the limit. More interesting (for him and viewers) than if he just slam dunked every big stage. This tour has been really good!
@Tibovl
@Tibovl 2 жыл бұрын
He was still smiling in his interview, while congratulating Vingegaard, while doing the white jersey presentation. I'm beyond impressed. No one even would have blamed him if he would have shown disappointment or even anger, but the kid just smiled. Truly a great rider, on and off the bike.
@martinsolden77
@martinsolden77 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tibovl I think doping has a played a huge roll on how we use to see riders...allways nerves abouth controls, not showing emotions due to the feeling of not riding it clean.. These riders ride alot like you would see in a yung riders race, pure joy of racing and full gaz if the legs are in for it. what a joy
@strangemobius
@strangemobius 2 жыл бұрын
Beautiful ride by Vingegaard.
@Tom-qx8yh
@Tom-qx8yh 2 жыл бұрын
Was waiting for your video before going to bed
@MohammadIsmail-sq5jy
@MohammadIsmail-sq5jy Жыл бұрын
After watching this year tour we can make the conclusion that Vingegard is better than pogcarh especially on the mountains so it wasn't just all the difference between teams.
@1630revelloify
@1630revelloify 2 жыл бұрын
One of the most exciting stages I've seen at the Tour. TJV were always going to take multiple attacks to Pogačar, and the contributions of Van Aert, Benoot, Kruijswijk and Laporte at various points should not be dismissed. A very different (thankfully) strategy to the old Team Sky approach of closing down attacks incrementally. Primoz Roglič was astounding and selfless. Nairo Quintana was aware that Barguil was suffering and proved right to attack. Bardet and Thomas showed their experience by challenging without going into the red, but Vingegaard's solo was a ride for the ages. Chapeau!
@warwickpadmore4644
@warwickpadmore4644 2 жыл бұрын
Omg! Just the opening seconds were amazing. Jumbo Visma riders were relentlessly attacking Roglic like a pack of jackals going in for the kill! And I haven’t even finished watching the vid.
@JPL454
@JPL454 2 жыл бұрын
*Pogacar
@racerjunkee
@racerjunkee 2 жыл бұрын
LR also got a bit confused about Poglic @1:42 hehe
@JPL454
@JPL454 2 жыл бұрын
@@racerjunkee Roglic will try to catch Roglic, that must be hard
@warwickpadmore4644
@warwickpadmore4644 2 жыл бұрын
Of course, I meant Pogacar. Thanks for pointing out my oversight.
@ekifi
@ekifi 2 жыл бұрын
Excited for Vingegaard but the Tour's end is still far away
@MrBernt1968
@MrBernt1968 2 жыл бұрын
It is funny how some people make it sound like Jonas Vingegaard only won Tdf because of his team.
@alexanderishere1857
@alexanderishere1857 Жыл бұрын
Pog expended unfathomable amounts of energy the whole stage.... and discovered that even his energy wasn't limitless.
@trudgin62
@trudgin62 2 жыл бұрын
Eh Vinnie, Roglic & WvA beat pog on col du granon… no one was destroyed and they certainly didn’t do it alone
@javorgeorgiev6130
@javorgeorgiev6130 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think he was feigning confidence. He was just wrong.
@dzanikken
@dzanikken 2 жыл бұрын
What a wonderful stage. This is what we've been waiting for, and oh boy did we get it. My personal highlight of the stage was Jonas and Primož taking turns and attacking Tadej. Most say this was Tadej's tactical mistake but in my opinion, this just shows the respect Pogačar has for Roglič. They know each other better than anyone and Pogačar would never just let Roglič go. Despite Roglič's injuries and discomfort, he's still a force to be reckoned with and I doubt Pogačar knew the condition (and daily form) Roglič was in yesterday. For all he knew, Roglič could have had super legs yesterday and his back pain had finally subsided, so he just couldn't afford not to follow his attacks. Plus, this was the place where Roglič got his first TdF win back in 2017, attacking 34 km out. As we've seen, 2 or 3 minutes is not that much of a gap, and that could have easily been (a healthy) Roglič at the end instead of Jonas. My only hope is to see Primož make a comeback, preferably at this year's Vuelta. He's still got too much of a fight in him to simply become and settle for a status of a super domestique for JV.
@wernervon5508
@wernervon5508 2 жыл бұрын
Watching TdF since 1980 (Joop Zoetemelk! TI Raleigh!) but - to be honest, had some sabbatical years during Armstrong's reign during the early noughties (hated the obnoxious guy even before his de mascarade some years later). Never felt so emotional when this etappe rolled out with the last climb as it's culmination. Man, I must confess I shouted dewey eyed to the tele when Jonas made his final attack.
@nateridesbikes9204
@nateridesbikes9204 2 жыл бұрын
THERMOBIBLICAL ATTACK
@mmmbass6068
@mmmbass6068 2 жыл бұрын
Surely the highest peak in the Superlative Mountains!
@billcook4768
@billcook4768 2 жыл бұрын
That shot at 3:37 feels like something out of Lord of the Rings @, with the Nazgûl chasing someone down.
@KnightMirkoYo
@KnightMirkoYo 2 жыл бұрын
I feel like Pogi was let down so hard by the team, and Jumbo used the opportunity to the max wearing him down before the climb. And THEN he even pulled UAE for the bridging, as a nail in the coffin. An incredible athlete, but every body has limits.
@anejtomazic5423
@anejtomazic5423 2 жыл бұрын
Hirshi and bennet have covid, almeida also didnt come because of covid. It sucks, but dont count him out yet
@KnightMirkoYo
@KnightMirkoYo 2 жыл бұрын
@@anejtomazic5423 Yeah, it's not their fault, and he did everything he could. Losing to Covid must suck.
@G400-y6e
@G400-y6e 2 жыл бұрын
This was the best stage in Tour de France history.
@kovacsmate6124
@kovacsmate6124 2 жыл бұрын
*recent
@G400-y6e
@G400-y6e 2 жыл бұрын
@@kovacsmate6124 show me a better stage this is the best one I’ve ever seen or heard of
@woutverriest2665
@woutverriest2665 2 жыл бұрын
@@G400-y6e 2011 had a lot of good ones
@janullrichultra8446
@janullrichultra8446 2 жыл бұрын
2008 and 2011 got some really nice stages
@vinniamsterdam700
@vinniamsterdam700 2 жыл бұрын
1986 Lemond vs Hinault had multiple crazy stages........long time ago!
@NateBerkopec
@NateBerkopec 2 жыл бұрын
LR definitely deserves a lot of credit for calling out two weeks ago that this was where TJV was going to make the attack, and that the attack had a very good chance of succeeding. Let's hope LR continues to be correct in his predictions, then we should see some great action in the Pyrenees and the final TT...
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ 2 жыл бұрын
Well I guess others could have also told you this. Since it's the hardest stage of the Tour.
@PLF...
@PLF... 2 жыл бұрын
Honestly, probably the best stage I've seen since I started following the tour in the mid 90s. The tactics from Jumbo Visma played out to perfection and the 1-2 punches from Vingegaard and Roglic is what we always hope for the GC-guys to try. After so many years of a dominant lock-down team that will swallow up all inklings of excitement, the duel of Vingegaard and Pogacar could very well last a decade. It's going to be awesome, in all of the true sense of the word.
@racerjunkee
@racerjunkee 2 жыл бұрын
great analysis as always. Watched that Jumbo plan B movie just prior to the stage so i got quite excited about Jumbo lying down all their cards on the tarmac and getting the results in the end by complete obliteriation of the field and the gc. But a big gamble as well as u also said on ur pod. Also that smile from Roglic when he crossed the line and vingegaard pausing that interview for a hug with Wout told so much about the team. Unbelievable stage and such a beautiful sport. Can't wait for tomorrow
@TheLanorth
@TheLanorth 2 жыл бұрын
Kamaaaan Jonas Kamaaan!
@riquelmeone
@riquelmeone 2 жыл бұрын
What a Tour so far. 10th placed in GC has 13 minutes on mailloy jaune, afyer stage 11!! And Alpe d’Huez is still to come. We are truly blessed after the sky years
@otto0363
@otto0363 2 жыл бұрын
TJV played their cards well, but ultimately Pogi can only blame himself for this loss. Should have let Rog go at the bottom of Galibier and wait for Soler and McNulty. He knew that Rog isn't on 100% and he should have saved himself. His theatrics at the final 5k of Galibier was also questionable.
@yunghoene8753
@yunghoene8753 2 жыл бұрын
true but it would have been a gamble to let roglic go since he was only 3 minutes behind him in gc. from now on he will only have to mark tjv attacks from vingegaard since roglic is really out of the gc fight after todays stage.
@otto0363
@otto0363 2 жыл бұрын
@@yunghoene8753 Roglic would have gained about a minute or so had Pogi waited for Soler and McNulty. I'd say that would have been pretty easy to control with 50k left.
@lemao_squash4486
@lemao_squash4486 2 жыл бұрын
Hindsight is always 20/20
@smeetsnoud1
@smeetsnoud1 2 жыл бұрын
@@otto0363 in that scenario where Pogi actually waits for them, Roglic will absolutely smack the rest of Galibier, knowing Van Aert is waiting at the top for him. Definitely more than a minute, Van Aert/Roglic against Soler McNulty. It would be disastrous to have Roglic back in GC contention, so Soler and McNulty offer a hard pace for the first 3ks on granon, and then Pogacar would have to go mutant mode. Meanwhile Vingegaard just finished his lunch sitting in his wheel. Pogacar was always going to find trouble today. I actually really liked how TJV dismantled Pogacar: the only one who can beat Pogacar is Pogacar. Jumbo picked their first battle on the mental game, challenging his usual attacking style with an even more attacking style. It really shook him: frustrated, alone, not on top. Only one way to shake it *Never back down, double down* It's near impossible to beat Pogacar on any given stage. But today's stage was the perfect storm and Jumbo capitalized on it in a beautiful way.
@ismellsalt
@ismellsalt 2 жыл бұрын
Easy to say in hindsight as we now know rog didnt have it today, at the base of galibier he had shown no signs of weakness yet. Completely understandable not wanting to potentially let such a dangerous competetitor back in the race imo.
@elliotwatson3754
@elliotwatson3754 2 жыл бұрын
Just wait until tomorrow, let's hope the stage is even more exciting than today!
@geuros
@geuros 2 жыл бұрын
Team Jumbo is incredible. Once again Wout shows how crazy insanely good he is and how valuable he is for the team. He made almost 3 minutes on Barguil and saved a lot of energy pacing for Jumbo. Why was catching Barguil important? Vingegaard got those additional 10" bonus for the win in the end. So professional, masterpiece by Jumbo. Btw look at Tadej at 5:50. His shorts are full of dried salt. According to an expert (former pro) in the stream I watched, that's not a good sign. Glad Tadej had a day like this, he made us believe he is human after all. I hope he can recover and make it still interesting. I honestly don't have favourites, I just enjoy the show.
@duncanmartin2626
@duncanmartin2626 2 жыл бұрын
Pog did an incredible ride today - he dealt with all the 1-2 punches, then towed Jonas up the Galibier at a pace no-one else could do, and only really struggled on the upper slopes of the Granon. I don't think there's another in the Tour who could have done that. But he said that Jonas was the best climber in the world, and he wasn't wrong - doing all that work really cost him. Thomas was a surprise - he was there for the 1-2 punches when no-one else had followed, and while he got dropped at the top of the Galibier and Granon, he rode at his pace and didn't lose too much time. I was also surprised by Yates - even though he paced sensibly across the whole day I still thought he would have been much further back. Let's hope today is just as epic.
@mojoe5480
@mojoe5480 5 ай бұрын
Jumbo Visma destroyed Tadej Pogacar
@ForeverDayGreen
@ForeverDayGreen 2 жыл бұрын
2:26 I don't think it's Pogacar being overconfident rather then him realizing what game Jumbo were playing. Help wasn't getting closer and he knew that he couldn't keep chasing back their moves. Therefore attacking and potentially opening a gap that would allow him to settle in a steady pace seemed like a reasonable option.
@noternunstoned
@noternunstoned 2 жыл бұрын
If Pogi had more team members and didn't have to counter attack, maybe things would have turned in his favor. We'll never know, I still think Vingegaard is the best pure climber I've ever seen, Wout is the next/current Sagan..
@essexbirds1870
@essexbirds1870 2 жыл бұрын
Pogacar has met his match. Jonas does not realise how good he is , yet.
@scooter2163
@scooter2163 2 жыл бұрын
I remember a quote from Vingegaard from about a month ago or more, and I was surprised at how confident he was but he knew what he was talking about... he said something like "I could win the Tour this year..." something like that.
@micmac9451
@micmac9451 2 жыл бұрын
In an interview he said he has already tried to get 2nd place, so his goal is to do better this year
@11-inch
@11-inch 2 жыл бұрын
With the amount of juice they injected into him 6 weeks prior no wonder he is confident 😂
@scooter2163
@scooter2163 2 жыл бұрын
@@11-inch if he's not your guy he must be cheating. lame.
@henrikrathje7698
@henrikrathje7698 2 жыл бұрын
Jonas said already in January that he was gonna win this year. And he did. He was simply stronger than Tardej this year. Gonna be interesting next year :-) Pogačar needs a stronger team if he wants to beat Jonas in 2023.
@timrush8544
@timrush8544 8 ай бұрын
The greatest stage in TDF history
@carlosa.sanchez896
@carlosa.sanchez896 2 жыл бұрын
This was a catastrophic failure for UAE, composed of bad luck, illness and bad recruitment. Grand tour races are extremely competitive and Pogacar met more than his match. As for the key role Roglic played in the takedown, it was revenge. Primoz never forgave Tadej for punking him only 2 days from a sure TDF win 3 years ago. The Jumbo Visma team was intact, compared to Team UAE in tatters, but they're also a stronger, more well rounded team, man for man. Those Ayrabs have the $ but they need a serious consultant to help them draft better. This stage was all about a better team pounding away at a former champ without any team to help him. That said, today's stage 17 was even worse for UAE. Pogacar had Brandon McNulty with him all the way to the final summit, but they couldn't drop Vingegaard, who was all alone and still hung on their wheels. The mantle has changed hands and Tadej Pogacar has been put in his place by not just a better team, but a better GC rival who will now live rent free in his head, like Lance did in Jan Ulrich's head for many Tours. I predict Pogacar will never win another TDF and the days of 4,5,6 TDF wins are but a memory. Let's see how long Vingegaard lasts.
@donreavis1463
@donreavis1463 2 жыл бұрын
Does anyone think/hope Roglic goes all in for Alp d'Huez glory? He's lost enough time on GC.
@petechambers1511
@petechambers1511 2 жыл бұрын
Everyday I record the tour then watch it in the evening, fast forwarding through the uneventful bits so I can cram 5 hours into 3. No fast forwarding today however and so glad I record it as highlights do not do it justice. If people who think cycling is boring just watch a stage like this with good commentary that describes the tactics then they would be converts.
@Frontman936
@Frontman936 2 жыл бұрын
This was peak TdF. In the toughest stages the strongest need a tow from a superstar team to final climb.
@wanderalmeida9584
@wanderalmeida9584 2 жыл бұрын
Pogacar´s arrogance finally taking its toll. Great ride by Thomas.
@PeterLarsenJr
@PeterLarsenJr 2 жыл бұрын
Epic day. Great strategy by TJV. And Vingegaard was tired of being SECOND PLACE to Pogocar.
@KrugzTube
@KrugzTube 2 жыл бұрын
The entire Jumbo Visma team were just incredible this year! And Vingegaard got his first tour victory which was more than deserved!!
@a.l5939
@a.l5939 2 жыл бұрын
Can’t remember a stage being this interesting. Them days with Froome were boring nobody was really attacking him imo but Jumbo today man… phew 🔥 this is the reason we watch tdf!!!
@zigzagnemesist5074
@zigzagnemesist5074 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah but froome attacking on a descent will always be a legendary moment
@a.l5939
@a.l5939 2 жыл бұрын
@@zigzagnemesist5074 that was legendary. I actually remember another intereseting stage. In 2019 when Alaphillipe lost his yellow jersey to Bernal in stage 18 I think and the race got stopped due to a snowstorm. Before the stoppage all the favorites were fighting for yellow that was a good day too
@iminc5498
@iminc5498 2 жыл бұрын
If Pogacar had a team like Froome had for his TDF wins, they’re be no attacking here either. Froome’s team was always OP, so there was no point in attacking.
@a.l5939
@a.l5939 2 жыл бұрын
@@iminc5498 I know & 100% but it’s like they weren’t even trying you know… it was boring but yeah Ineos was too good back in the day.
@Fyr35555
@Fyr35555 2 жыл бұрын
@A.L It was stage 19 to Tignes, Bernal attacked early on the Col de l'Iseran and was in virtual yellow at the top, then on the descent there was a storm over at the finish and a landslide meant the finish was cancelled and times were taken at the top of the Iseran
@sgameirojr
@sgameirojr 2 жыл бұрын
So he is human after all. Amazing race. I had to stay up until 3am in NZ, but I couldn't sleep. Lots of coffee today. BTW, I watched it live, and still came to watch your highlights. Keep it up!
@clementdenis4212
@clementdenis4212 2 жыл бұрын
Best TDF mountain stage in the last 20 years.
@conorcurran9431
@conorcurran9431 2 жыл бұрын
Ive waited all day for your video and it didn’t disappoint. Today was insane. Nuclear watt bombs dropped everywhere
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 2 жыл бұрын
Pogacar was left high and dry by his teammates. I suspect they'd not recovered from the 'forced marches' they'd had to do on previous stages... 🙄 Jumbo Visma have been very organised, so far. They took full advantage of an isolated Yellow Jersey. Thanks again for your great coverage, sir! 👍 M 🦘🏏😎
@user-ui6kv2np8i
@user-ui6kv2np8i 2 жыл бұрын
How can a guy who has lost 2 team mebers due to Covid, plus have another 2 who are still in but who are clearly as sick as fuck (with it), be left 'high and dry' by them?. He's basically only got 3 team members left.
@markdowse3572
@markdowse3572 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-ui6kv2np8i 'High and dry' simply means he was left exposed. The phrase does not impose blame.
@DavidLaburglier
@DavidLaburglier 2 жыл бұрын
This might be the biggest win of all time for Lanterne Rouge! I didn't believe it was possible, but here it is: Termonuklear Jonas 🇩🇰
@MeesterJ
@MeesterJ 2 жыл бұрын
This might become his most watched video no?
@mohdfaizzamri9869
@mohdfaizzamri9869 Жыл бұрын
It wasnt “Vingegard destroys Pogacar”. Its Jumbo Visma againts Pogacar. Or more like Everyone VS Pogacar. Yes he still managed to secure 2nd overall
@HolgerDanske874
@HolgerDanske874 Жыл бұрын
No. Look at Tour de France 2023. Vingegaard vs everyone, still he secured the win.
@New.Adventures.Sailing
@New.Adventures.Sailing 2 жыл бұрын
I was wondering if Pogacar would like to take back the other day when he was whipping his teammates for no strategic benefit. He went looking for his team and they were gone. Well tomorrow, we could see a lot more UAE on the front controlling things. Vingegaard did an excellent job today, great teamwork for Jumbo. Wow!
@timlages1257
@timlages1257 2 жыл бұрын
Pog is more likeable as a non-superhuman
@therusheffect7784
@therusheffect7784 2 жыл бұрын
Tactical masterpiece by Jumbo. WVA putting in work again!
@nathantang9964
@nathantang9964 2 жыл бұрын
I really want to see nairo win one more stage
@傅傅-z2r
@傅傅-z2r 2 жыл бұрын
Vingegaard just showed his usual ability, it's Pogacar who cracked badly and fell even behind Yates and Gaudu.
@smilee4evaahh754
@smilee4evaahh754 2 жыл бұрын
anyone else hoping Kruiswijk will hit top 10 again? haha
@GardEngebretsen
@GardEngebretsen 2 жыл бұрын
I mean, he is 9th now, so it's not impossible lol
@osar7664
@osar7664 2 жыл бұрын
Breakin’ out the thermo-biblical!
@JMLMF1
@JMLMF1 2 жыл бұрын
this was a masterclass by jumbo-visma.
@kasperjager
@kasperjager 2 жыл бұрын
LETS GO! EMOTIONAL AFTER THAT VINGEGAARD ATTACK AND WIN
@deanjepsen4570
@deanjepsen4570 2 жыл бұрын
Jonas Vingegaard is a monster on a cycle, and we supporting him som mutch here in Denmark.. Absolut a Monster.
@holdenmcgroin8699
@holdenmcgroin8699 2 жыл бұрын
The last 2 TDF he was mostly solo and TJV finally realized they have the stronger team and isolated Pogi… what a textbook teamwork play by TJV! Absolutely spot on!
@cheechorino3710
@cheechorino3710 2 жыл бұрын
Milli views congrats 🎉
@Timbucktoothed
@Timbucktoothed 2 жыл бұрын
I simply ❤️❤️❤️ your commentaries. Especially you filling the gap as to what the riders would think or converse with his team is brilliant. Thank you!! Simply the best.
@pythor2117
@pythor2117 3 ай бұрын
Revisiting this moment before the 2024 tour.... man I really liked Jumbo's jerseys in this edition
@mariomanov8453
@mariomanov8453 2 жыл бұрын
Jumbo Visma double-triple attacks give a result,they got all energy of Pogacar and Jonas finished him on Col de Granon..What a stage,one of best at the TDF history..
@fitgury2
@fitgury2 2 жыл бұрын
Sport doesn't need words like "destroys", even if you get a few more clicks... Just enjoy it.
@IztokGolob-Naklo
@IztokGolob-Naklo 2 жыл бұрын
I expected this. As a Slovenian I dreaded it. There is no way Pogi can cover everyone.
@holmbjerg
@holmbjerg 2 жыл бұрын
Is Slovenia divided in Team Pogacar vs. Team Roglic?
@IztokGolob-Naklo
@IztokGolob-Naklo 2 жыл бұрын
@@holmbjerg there certainly are Pogi and Rogla fans. And with that arguments, mostly about how Pogi won two years ago by tagging along behind Primoz. Most of Slovenians regardless of having a favorite rider are happy for both. And thankful we actually have not just two but four talented riders with Mohoric and Tratnik as well.
@AbhinavGoyal-b5d
@AbhinavGoyal-b5d 11 ай бұрын
Looking back at it, it was the last time Pog wore the Maillot Jaune!
@thierrybichat3741
@thierrybichat3741 2 жыл бұрын
L'erreur qu'a commis Pogacar est de répondre aux multiples attaques de l'équipe Jumbo, il suffsait qu'il reste dans son rythme déjà élevé au pied du galibier et il serait revenu à la pédale sur les échappés, cette expérience lui servira à l'avenir, il faut néanmoins souligner la force de l'équipe Jumbo qui possède quatre leaders , UAE n'avait pas un tel niveau.
@EgeBerkGonul
@EgeBerkGonul 2 жыл бұрын
39 secs for Pogacar, Tour is over. 2:22 against Pogacar, Tour starts over. I am not blaming people for thinking this way. I have the same approach about GC and I see nothing hypocritical or inconsistent. I just want to demonstrate how invincible Pogacar looks. I don't like hegemony in sports and I would like to see someone different wins Tour, even though I admire Pogacar. But if he does something surprising, it won't be surprising anymore.
@RB-xv4si
@RB-xv4si Жыл бұрын
Pogacar didn’t lose this stage on the Granon. He lost it on the Telegraphe and Galibier, where Vingegaard could sit on Pogacar’s wheel and draft as his teammates attacked on the shallower, faster pitches. I don’t think even Pogacar was aware of his extra energy expenditure until it was too late.
@drewcama2488
@drewcama2488 2 жыл бұрын
Incredible! Jumbo all in team work no egos, one goal, just destroy Pogi! But he isn't done just yet! It's time for the battle in the trenches to get dirty.
@ilbertollorosso6378
@ilbertollorosso6378 2 жыл бұрын
I need Durianrider's assessment why Pogacar would have won on rim brakes.
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