LAST Seen 3 MONTHS Ago - What is HAPPENING with the CLASS 93 Testing Program & 93001..?

The bizarre roll out of the Rail Operations Group Tri-Mode Class 93 program continues - The first class example arrived into Bristol Portway docks from Stadler Valencia in Jun-23. The loco spent the majority of the remainder of 2023 at Wabtec Loughborough and mostly HNRC Worksop.
The loco finally surfaced in early Jan-24 and was dragged to Crewe Coal Yard by 37901 for static testing with coaching stock. it quickly returned back to HNRC and bizarrely hasn't been seen again more than 3 months - What is happening with the loco class certification and testing..????
Up to 10 class 93's were due to be shipped to the UK in 2023 - These are still at Stadler in Valencia and can be seen running around their in-house test track with no sign of shipping to the UK.
Another example of modern day bureaucracy creating crazy length delays on the UK railway network...????
Hope you enjoy the video! This is the only footage I have of 93001 from the 10 months it's spent in the UK..!
#class93 #93001 #delays #testing #bureaucracy #ROG #railoperationsgroup #newloco #newlococlass #stadler #trimode

[@abloogywoogywoo]

37: Do I have to keep showing you youngsters how it’s done?

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

Hahaha ..

[@keithmatthews1673]

At least we still have reliable Diesels to drag the thing around.

[@levelcrossing150]

That''s because the reliable diesel was built in the UK.

[@StowmarketRailfreight]

This is happening a lot nowadays with the locos that come to the Uk. They get shipped over, run only a couple times and then sit in storage for months without much testing or they get returned back to where they were built.

[@annatrindall9829]

Well if that is the case, what the hell is the point of having them??

[@StowmarketRailfreight]

@@annatrindall9829 That’s how I feel. A huge problem we have

[@paulfuller7409]

Come on most locomotives that come here are running in service within a few weeks. Units are a different story

[@annatrindall9829]

If they're buggering about with the 93's, god knows how the 99's will work out?

[@StowmarketRailfreight]

@@paulfuller7409 fair point. My mistake.

[@bennythebrit]

It was due to undertow testing at RIDC (Old Dalby) which has been shut since December due to a landslip.

[@NorthWestLevelCrossingsChannel]

Excellent video as always 👍

[@TrainsPlanesSpotter02333]

Amazing Video

[@martinbalmforth2665]

They were ordered for specific jobs, but in the time between ordering, and delivery, this work dried up. There is a current huge surplus of electric locos in the UK, but a huge diesel loco shortage. Vthey should have ordered diesels or bi mode.

[@railquest]

Whilst it's at Worksop, there were some light loco test runs from Worksop to Sheffield last week (twice a day in each direction Monday-Friday) on RTT, though non of them ran. If they were intended to be 93 runs then we may be close to further action🤞

[@TrainPlaneSpotter02]

Great Video I Wonder What’s Happening Whit The 93

[@stevenmoran4060]

Ordering locos and then not using them is what happens when you let Tocs come up with whatever they want built anywhere but UK and then not required to pay for them, British Rail pays the bill. Not rocket science to stop Derby closing down and design and build engines and coaching stock here again. We are, or were, quite good at it example Mark 3 coaches in use daily well over 40 years and clas 90 and 91 locos in service for the same amount of time. The Spanish units for Transpennine services just about managed 3 years! BR stock and locos were on test for that amount of time before entering service!

[@1chish]

Except that there is no such thing as 'British Rail' and these locos are being funded by private businesses. And as its their cash they can do as they please. And if you think the UK was any good at building locos then your rose tinted glasses need changing. The list of troubled locos is long and sad. Apart from which Derby can't build locos. They build complete trains (EMU, DEMU,DMU).

[@conceyullena]

Like 👍beatiuful video, greetings 🚂👍🙋‍♂️

[@stephendavies6949]

At this rate there'll be 37s still running when the 57s & 67s areno more...

[@levelcrossing150]

It's about time this country started building quality rolling stock once again.

[@annatrindall9829]

Damn right

[@MrRocketguitar]

37 to the rescue always

[@BIGV710]

yes the class 93 are parked up at valencia at the back you can see them easy i was there 4 ays ago in my artic

[@paulfuller7409]

Interesting I wondered what’s going on. But whatever it is everyone is keeping stum

[@michaeltaylor1869]

Another cracking video well done great camera work as usual I am really enjoying your lovely videos and camera work keep your lovely camera work up I am really looking forward to seeing your next video I hope you get a nice video next time also when is your next video going to be on KZbin bye for now Philip

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

They bought them for what appeared to be a contract with Grand Union and somewhere along the line, GU switched their traction plan for Voyagers instead of Push pull sets? Surely ROG are scrambling round for work for these and if the c37s are doing good, them, without work, the cl93s are surplus ? Just a thought .. 🤔

[@annatrindall9829]

No comparison.. .a class 90 would kick a 93's butt all day long

[@paulfuller7409]

???? Don’t think so

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

@annatrindall9829 lol nice one Anna .. yes, I mean, technically, the 93 is unproven, and so far, has sat alone whilst 93002 to 93010 have sat awaiting a shipping date amd what they are going to be doing is uncertain

[@annatrindall9829]

@@johnson_street_IEMD it just begs the question WHY spend all that money on new locomotives and then not use them? Doesn't make sense to me at all. Surely they could be used for freight, or maybe on the sleeper..

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

@annatrindall9829 I think, listening to the dialogue, it's also something down to certification from NR but beyond that, it does seem like they are keeping their intentions quiet for them.

[@aviano72]

Hmm, interesting I generally love Stadler trains and this 93 looks great

[@personwhotalkstomuch4898]

The problem is in my opinion that they are building them in Spain like the EMUs & DMUs but their spec on the OHLE is completely different to here in the UK, hence they’re having to do a lot of software programming to get them to work. Look at those EMUs that LNWR ordered a while ago, they are only just coming into service after being delivered ages ago, some still awaiting in sidings to be commisioned.

[@trainsplanes]

You’d of thought they’d have addressed any OHLE issues in advance due to learnings from the class 88 entry into service.

[@colinsheppard9662]

But it hasn’t ran on the mainline it’s been towed. The loco hasn’t ran under its own power on the UK network

[@1701_FyldeFlyer]

Dont you mean 'hasn't run' on the mainline?!

[@jimihendrix991]

...or maybe the 93 was in stealth mode and they are testing the 37.... 😉

[@andrewreynolds4949]

There’s been a decent amount of online discussion over whether much of a market exists for the sort of niche these could take, and I tend to side against them. The class 99 seems a decent concept, with the high demand on similar class 66 roles; but these seem to be much more like the the class 67, which have shuffled around and struggled to find work too much of the time.

[@paulfuller7409]

The 93 has issues with network rail. They will not release the paperwork for it to run until it’s sorted. Also the unions need to pass it as well The 99 is a unknown quantity at the moment. But are slated to work out of Felixstowe at the moment. We will see.

[@sapphirejunction8993]

Electricity costs too much???...just go ask DB about it lol

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

Hahaha.. but don't ask Freightliner

[@chunx06]

It was only ever bought as a demonstrator, will never see use full time

[@jacobstrains-vr6uw]

why didn't ROG just keep the 47s and 57s instead of giving them to GBRF and buying new trains

[@leonblittle226]

Because they are old, past worn out and the parts supply for them is getting non-existent. 57004 was basically scrapped to keep the small GWR fleet in service, and even then 57312 is on hire for the PAD-RDG shunt release job

[@lisaodd3196]

I still can't decide if I love it, or hate it...

[@delticnapierdccsound4236]

They should paint it pink n stick a trunk on the front!

[@latexborg]

Nellie the Elephant. If anyone knows what we are on about 😅

[@delticnapierdccsound4236]

@@latexborg I totally do.

[@latexborg]

@delticnapierdccsound4236 but will the 93 Trump off to the circus 🎪 🤔 😉

[@keithmatthews1673]

Pink? I''d go for white!

[@delticnapierdccsound4236]

@@keithmatthews1673 🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭🤭

[@user-gi3xw5yc5u]

Who is running the Railways nowadays?.

[@ThatVoxelBlock]

I would not even call it a run I call it a delivery run I wander has it even moved under its own power Edit: I found a video of 93 006 but running not in the uk

[@petersmith4455]

hi, why can't the clowns at RO group use exsisting 90 and 86 locos, these 93s look ghastly and the driver can't look out of the cab

[@delbennett4534]

I agree totally, European crap

[@StPetersLayout]

Using outdated locos isn’t the future everything old does need to be replaced

[@nigelbevan8449]

Have to agree with you 💯% Peter.

[@johnson_street_IEMD]

86s are all gone bar 86101, 259 and 401 .. 90s ... there's 12 going spare at Crewe IEMD

[@jacobstrains-vr6uw]

I see what you mean but unless you add a small generator or run them with a generator vehicle a pure electric loco is useless to ROG which is why diesel bi mode and even tri mode makes sense to have

[@CT-pv9gu]

Seems a shame with these new locos. All that effort to build them and they hardly get used... Same with the 69s - what are they even used for?

[@jamescollins3647]

The 60s are very busy, there hasn't even been time to paint 69009.

[@paulfuller7409]

69 General user loco to release. 66 s for other long haul work

[@andrewreynolds4949]

69s have been all over the place; plenty on engineering trains,RHTT & freight use

[@nigelbevan8449]

Sorry to be a killjoy, don't like the shape of the 93. I first saw this type of locomotive on the back of a low-loader leaving Portbury docks a few months ago... There just doesn't seem to be any character to it... Sorry, just my opinion though.

[@terrier_productions]

The last UK locomotive to have any flair or character so far is the 68 in my opinion. Problem is that all to most new locomotives will be either electric or bi-mode