Thanks from Germany for making that video! It was good to see that you had the focus on the wiring part. That is exactly what I was looking for!
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
ya buddy. the wiring seems more complicated in all the instruction, but once you really get your head around it, its a bit simple.
@Karabus923 жыл бұрын
Servus aus Deutschland, Michael hast du das schon eingebaut? Wie ist das Fazit? Lohnt es sich das up zu graden?
@Benihana814 жыл бұрын
I had this system in my 2 door mk7 gti. I rented a programmer and made a huge difference in sound, all the harshness was gone and the sound stage was aligned properly. While the sound was decent, it has NO deep bass, there is a high pass filter on the sub cutting out the low frequencies significantly. At first it didn't bug me, but then it started getting irritating. After some research I decided to buy a 5 channel amp, a line out converter, and a dsp. I was originally going to replace the system, but I decided to improve on the unit. I didn't want to go to crazy, so my goals were to keep the factory speakers and the Helix subwoofer. After I installed the equipment, the sound (before eq and time alignment) was much more powerful and clear. The subwoofer definitely is capable of deep bass......it was severely crippled by the helix amp. I recorded some measurements with a mic and EQ'd the front 2 speakers and sub (not running rear fill). After finalizing the system, the difference in sound now is MASSIVE! The sound is perfectly balanced and the soundstage is incredible. I can't believe I was able to achieve this quality of sound from the factory speakers.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
thats exactly what i wanted to do if i was gonna keep the car forever. i was worried about how to tap into the signal for sub, all the way from glove. did you use parts of the stock helix harness, or run custom wires? I'd love to see a full video about it honestly.
@Benihana814 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage I'll try to make a video sometime soon...but what I did is use the helix harness and bought a computer ATX 20-pin connector from ebay to make a harness extension and connected the wires to the Audiocontrol LC7I line-out converter, and then from there I sent the signal via RCA to a Dayton DSP-408, and then to the 5 channel amp. This is the writeup (forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?9107681-DIY-Helix-Dongle) I used to make the extension, but I cut the wires to use as the signal source to the LC7I instead of rerouting back into the harness as the OP did in the thread. Then i ran the wiring from the battery to the amp/dsp/LC7I to give them power. I used this connector to tap into the helix subwoofer (www.ebay.com/itm/8-Pin-Male-to-Female-PC-CPU-Motherboard-Power-Supply-Connector-Adapter-Cable-Bea/174083087447?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item2888291c57:g:WIYAAOSwZ~ldu~wu&enc=AQAEAAACUBPxNw%2BVj6nta7CKEs3N0qWu9HUhpt2JLJWXLfi40sZPst5RwFX%2B8sHqoaIjsP3nYdR6j4q3DVoblinpW8pNcwqYDhqqt%2BBa%2BMh7aXC5EvlqPKT%2BeVPOOhqJ51W4CDd1%2BKU9y4pLHsZY%2Bgad7FD%2BSl75LMsmrN08Dg03o1%2FwztTQMEQxydb8PHLPcQ9fTg%2FWPS5NSzXK1Etpx0E%2FArW4a%2BdvuL1zkKddcCw4OqVfX76c4XbZQF4odORnNTZ8SR%2BqOUbVMk1lZMWsLRxhBrfKq1M8mZzOEK4M%2FtlY%2FsTdnnPAPJ7pxNXx74HoqNjs%2Beiu%2ByC0aXSUj3WaoRvLsx0ptmSidUBTcvNVLR6eyRFFZ6P118jWpWrU6VWqhgvLCBqW%2FCxqHzj8tFOGsFH0VBR2%2BQhNJq%2BBFOVlWLumkGwqp4d8LaIYcuba1ltQmnf5Lcll4f0BQOcW19ysyy10z%2FHFWkpviMDiNm7ind9hd0CbJVWizr720HCMP4sfhqi8xHZbLFggcXYgrNs2ZNB7NgfbXKnZ2pJMdGFluR%2B4zXUwurm9kEjuBbXGJU7Y8n1cEyjmgsJ3wvTWzAt7C7SXTn%2Be19DJhP7P4I%2FOsa4VW4Ty4Nngu5r%2BF6PnP%2BHdUNSECcmPuKBGaCFRrUF0%2BFHXoL%2F7oypc4V5yREdaTckwhGZC99e%2Fowqk0fG0l9kw7tmipyy9QumXHxph0sBi2Pi4gFIXAKYMqKl5T4NhxV3eafj8vHTJFmOOyha%2BuW5H%2B0evfY26Q4EuPv5qtYVwuuEAmzOadCU%3D&checksum=1740830874473673a86b3597413bba31da332ad7d342). Best of all, it is completely reversible if you need to remove it for any reason....just unplug the extension cable :).
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
damn dude... thats what i woulda done.. i didnt want the interior speakers amped.. i just wanted the sub only.
@Benihana814 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage That's how it starts lol, then the upgrade bug hits...but now I'm happy with the system and won't be upgrading anymore.
@flysupertomcat14 жыл бұрын
@@Benihana81 I just got my Helix sub and I am thoroughly disappointed... tempted to sell it and build my own system. Things to note, I haven't had it programed yet. Does it really change the sound that much? Does the programming matter if you get an aftermarket amp? I would be willing to perform the mods you did to get the sound I desire. Are you completely satisfied with it now??? Any distortion??? Change my mind! lol
@timspringmann6972 жыл бұрын
You don't need to chain all the yellow/black harnesses in, those are for older models that don't have the Quadlock connector. Just plug the car's terminals into the empty housing and plug that directly into the Helix harness.
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@UnderGroove3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!! With your instructions are sooooooo easy to connect all. Instructions included are crazy.
@markgeraghty83563 жыл бұрын
sure bro.
@ogpudding2 жыл бұрын
Great video, appreciate it. Really helped out a lot. Thanks… I didn’t use either of the yellow/black adapters which really does nothing but extend the two wires and insert 2 more connection points. I think by not using them, that also resulted in less wires and connectors to hide behind it which made pushing the radio back in much easier. I Installed it today, 8/21/2022 in my 2017 GTI S. Picked up the part for $449 from Marietta VW. VW also has a 15% rebate on it at this time. Rented the dongle from the Mk7 forum to program. Can’t wait, sounds much better. I also kept my spare tire by using the longer spare tire mount. Again thanks for the video!
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
Congrats man. Good tip on less wiring.
@vincoinc78 ай бұрын
Thanks for this video series, I just installed a Helix in my Arteon. Very similar to your install so it was very helpful.
@LastHumansGarage8 ай бұрын
Great to hear!
@stephanpieterse69603 ай бұрын
What if - you don't use those two yellow and black additional cable connectors?? Just curiousas to what will happen? Please let me know. Sick video by the way!
@LastHumansGarage3 ай бұрын
no clue. let us know.
@EyesNico10 ай бұрын
Hi, I have battery drain from my radio circuit, do you have any idea why, any direction to looking for? Vw Polo 1.8L 2016 with ofc the helix sound system as vw accessory. (my battery is brand new and have been checked, and wire seems in perfect condition. Ihave this system since 3+ years, nothing changed since then, idk why i've got a drain now.. can't find any solution on google, hope I get more chances here) Thanks in advance for any kind of help, Have a nice day! :) Nico
@jdinotdi8 ай бұрын
Is it just me or does it only have 1 SD slot? Shouldn't there be 2 slots? Good video
@LastHumansGarage7 ай бұрын
mines has 2 slots
@bonkerscat10742 жыл бұрын
I watched your video & it’s very very good. I also apologise because I bumped the thumbs down button when I meant to push the thumbs up button 😳 I have sorted that now. Very good video 🤙🏻
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
thanks brother
@kane6087 Жыл бұрын
Hey everyone! Great video and I have a question, I just purchased the 2022 Volkswagon Tiguan and heard that these also work on them? Can anyone confirm?
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
wish i knew
@haiderzubair30903 жыл бұрын
How does this compare to dynaudio??? Is it much of a difference or better than premium vw sound?
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
I wouldn't know. I only had Dynaudio on my MK6's.. But my guess would be the Dynaudio is better just because of the better tuning, the Helix may have more bass, but the extra power to the doors messes them up.
@TheP05tm4n Жыл бұрын
I have the Helix in my Passat. Probably a stupid question, but if I unplug the amp to take the sub out (I need to lower the floor) will it kill the audio completely?
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
i think the inside speakers are still connected. should work.
@stephanpieterse69604 ай бұрын
Hi mate, awesome video! What is the dimensions of the packaging?
@LastHumansGarage3 ай бұрын
about 4" bigger than the subwoofer. naw im just jokin, i have no idea, sry
@liamanderson63414 жыл бұрын
Great install demo, think that a lot more people will be doing this now as you’ve given them a detailed walkthrough👍🏼 much appreciated!
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
thanks mate, it wasn't "hard", but routing the wiring was the biggest pain
@lpautomotive40074 жыл бұрын
Awesome! Where will you put the spare tire?
@jralphroman4 жыл бұрын
I heard with the longer bolt Volkswagen sales you can fit the spare tire
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
no spare. i have an air pump and patch kit.
@GTI_CHHA4 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage You wouldn't believe this but this morning on the way to the office I had a complete flat due to a nasty piece of glass. Bad luck. This is the first time I ever had use my skinny spare wheel. Would not trust the liquid chewing gum as it 1 might not work and 2 would have ruined the inner parts of my rim...
@davidheether16554 жыл бұрын
I have my spare and my helix sub. I just set my helix on top of the spare. And I run the floor on the top notches. Programmed it sounds so freaking awesome. I added this system in a 2017 GTI sport.
@styergreg3 жыл бұрын
@@davidheether1655 where did you get the longer hold down screw?
@GTI_CHHA4 жыл бұрын
Nice job brother. By the way, was there any stock subwoofer in your spare well? I have the Dynaudio (European market) option, comes also with a subwoofer, which seats nicely in the spare wheel. Super nice packaging from VW, but the bass is so so.. But the sound quality is good, super clear.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
no, any GTI with a base stereo does not come with a subwoofer. And the Helix is rumored better than the Fender setup by people who have heard both. The bass is huge on this thing with 80's rap.
@GTI_CHHA4 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage NA gets Fender, but I wouldn't be surprised that the sub is identical except for the badge.. The Helix must be better than the stock sub, as the stock bass is not impressive at all. The extra Amp plus solid sub housing makes the difference.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
i doubt the sub is identical. helix and fender are different companies.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
yes the key to all of this is the amp.. it sounds like 4x as loud and clear.
@azbabby4 жыл бұрын
LastHumansGarage fender being panasonic, helix being vw
@andregirbal63514 жыл бұрын
Nice install, like ever. Want to buy me the same helix sub...but what was the packet size and weight please? Thanks to you for your always helpfull howto's.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
35 lbs.
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
and as a guess, 24" x 24" x 9"
@zacburt1592 жыл бұрын
I can’t find this kit anywhere can you please send me a link!!
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
Prob extinct at this point..
@glenngaucigrech4 жыл бұрын
I have a question .. i believe one of the additional (harnesses) is for the right hand drive vehicles . Is that the case .. bevmcause i see you have installed both together.. im asking because I drive a right hand drive and that would make sense to me .
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
no idea man
@glenngaucigrech4 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage never mind it was that jumper plug which os for ledt and right hand drive
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
@@glenngaucigrech oh ya i remember that plug.. i didn't need it on mine obviously.
@glenngaucigrech4 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage i made a longer rj45 cable (plus a coupler for the dummy plug) so i can program on the go .. (bought a dongle)
@beorange2000 Жыл бұрын
I have the Battery there in my polo gti 2020 I don't think this will fit over it
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
damn!
@bkelly41414 жыл бұрын
Will the Helix Harness work with both VW MK7 GTI Stock head units ? And will it be the same harness configuration ? I have the stock Discovery radio . Thank you for your help
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
i dont know, sry
@Nolexe Жыл бұрын
What kind of dongle do you use? Would i be able to program this with an obd11?
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
its a special dongle dealers have that pretty hard to find. but you can prob buy it
@Nolexe Жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage Thank you for your reply, I actually found it for around $150 in my country. Will probably check first what my dealer want for doing the setup for me :)
@jonlynch16413 жыл бұрын
great video! question - the S trim doesn't have the CD/SD head unit(at least in the '21 mk7.5). any idea about doing this install with the CD/SD player missing? curious how much extra trim needs to be removed.
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
no idea, never had an S. i heard the non-cd player one is even harder cuz u have to open up the center area?
@jonlynch16413 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage thanks, from what i've gathered i think all of the connections run straight to the back of the infotainment screen. expecting to run short on slack.
@henrypammer16774 жыл бұрын
Why my Radio Not Works ? I Have no picture on mit Screen and the Radio is always off? Please i Need help?
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
no clue man. did you install a helix?
@darrellroireau40613 жыл бұрын
Nice setup wish we could have heard it!
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
Sorry about that
@darrellroireau40613 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage no problem. I like that you save on trunk space just don't get a flat! 😆
@Justinlifts3653 жыл бұрын
@@darrellroireau4061 you can pull it out easily
@NoReverse772 жыл бұрын
If you remove the feet you can keep your spare tire in.
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
nice!
@bcn_sosa77806 ай бұрын
Is there a link to this ?
@LastHumansGarage6 ай бұрын
hmmm... this was 5 years ago.
@Wututalmbout4 жыл бұрын
Just bought a 2019 Tiguan R-Line and it’s the base model sound system; no sub. Would this fit in the spare tire compartment as well?
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
Don't know if its compatible with a Tiguan.
@carlosamaya87093 жыл бұрын
You don't need to plug into the back of the radio?
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
you do. the glove area is the radio harness in this case
@carlosamaya87093 жыл бұрын
Can I connect an amplifier (Rockford Fosgate R2-300X4) or an subwoofer from the Glovebox?
@fredofernandez9175 Жыл бұрын
Wouldn't his be the same on a mk6 gti?
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
dont know, prob different.
@poneyboymiller3 жыл бұрын
Sir, thank you very much for your install video. Was the hold down pin you've used part of the kit or was it purchased separately? If so, where could I purchase them?
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
you mean the wire pin release tools? Can't remember where i bought them.
@poneyboymiller3 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage Not quite, I was referring to the black plastic piece to hold the red/brown wires you mention at the 7:35 minute mark. Thank you very much for the reply.
@toddsheasby46203 жыл бұрын
I have a brand new polo is it possible to install subwoofer to it
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
anything is possible mate. with the right design and price.
@mmadchef8082 жыл бұрын
Where did you get the steering wheel cover?
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
what steering wheel cover are you referring to?
@mmadchef8082 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage I have a 2017….did not realize 2018 was different. No perforations in the 17.
@gregory9740 Жыл бұрын
Got a link to buy?
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
naw not anymore. they're hard to find
@HieuNguyen-ts1bo4 жыл бұрын
is it the same sub that comes with the SE experience package (Fender Audio)
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
no.
@juanbeltran16244 жыл бұрын
Do you known how I can find somebody to program my sub for me. I just installed the helix sub in my 2019 gti
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
you need to find someone renting a dongle on the forums, or go to a dealer. or just buy a dongle yourself.
@anmolpreetsingh95718 ай бұрын
I need the connection radio cable
@DavidFernandez-sc5ws3 жыл бұрын
Can I use this with the spare tire still in place?
@markgeraghty43013 жыл бұрын
you need a longer spare tire hold down then.. and you have to run your trunk floor in the upper position.
@Rasmus-o2w9p3 жыл бұрын
The new version of this sub comes with a pole that mounts on the spare, the product is named the same as the old one but it ends with a B
@Rasmus-o2w9p3 жыл бұрын
@@-vickyspit- Do you know the part number for this post?
@Itsjasentho2 жыл бұрын
What dsg paddles are those?
@LastHumansGarage2 жыл бұрын
oh those were s2tpp paddles. www.s2tpp.com/VW.html
@wolfsburggti44763 жыл бұрын
Is there a step by step instruction that I can read out? This will be a nightmare to follow during the install
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
Yup. A nightmare for anyone doing it. If you aren’t comfortable w it if pay someone.
@KermieCorleonie4 жыл бұрын
Does the AMP come as a part of the Helix "kit"?
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
Yes of course. It’s a 35x4 rms @ 4 ohm or 50x4 rms @ 2 ohm plus 160w rms x 1 for the sub. But it’s too loud. More than enough clean power. It has a bad gain ratio on our base system, and no one can listen over 50% volume without hurting their ears.
@georgieporgie75233 жыл бұрын
cheer's nice very good detailing.
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
thanks bro
@georgieporgie75233 жыл бұрын
@@LastHumansGarage did you remove your battery terminal before installation?
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
@@georgieporgie7523 of course.
@cj1112223 жыл бұрын
How long it takes to ship?
@LastHumansGarage3 жыл бұрын
a while.
@TherealAlibaba Жыл бұрын
I have demo switch and the coding dongle.
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
nice one mate!
@thel3gionas2 жыл бұрын
Genius , sacrifices spare tire for some extra bass :D
@davidfernandes30134 жыл бұрын
Awesome ;)
@LastHumansGarage4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@mattb4rd Жыл бұрын
Ate a bowl of dramamine while watching but thanks for sharing
@LastHumansGarage Жыл бұрын
LULZ@!@@ that is hilarious bro!! I prob had some wonky camera settings in this one..