Rangers fan here. Spurs are my English team. Overall, Rangers showed so much more desire and commitment . I hated Ange as celtic manager (with massive respect ) however he seems to lack the skills to motivate this group of players to perform to the ability that they have consistently. Best of luck for the rest of the competition..sorry Marlon I don't agree that Rangers were poor and disparaging the Scottish game makes you sound that you lack insight. Rangers were OK , Spurs were crap. Its that simple. Look at the resources Spurs have due to the TV money in comparison to any other clubs in the competition who don't play in the premier league. No excuses. Focus you're disappointment where it's due and don't disrespect our club
@tonymcfadyen83022 күн бұрын
Totally agree mate. Credit where it's due, we were the better team.
@spurskingstv2 күн бұрын
Just to clarify it was nothing against Scottish game. I’ll whisper this quietly to you by I follow the other lot. I’ve seen 2 Rangers games this season, the 3-0 defeat against Celtic and the game against Nice. Thought you was excellent against Nice from what I’ve seen highlights in Europe have been excellent. I saw a lot similarities to the Celtic game and I saw quite a few mistakes which spurs didn’t exploit as much as Celtic did. I love Scottish football and have done for years.
@colincameron42172 күн бұрын
@spurskingstv Cheers Mate. We sometimes make up for the lack of cash with passion. Ibrox was rocking and that's almost like having an extra man on the field on the big European nights at home. Wish you could have been there to feel the atmosphere. I think Spurs will come good and still think they can win the comp with the right motivation. Not sure Ange is the man for the job anymore. Merry Christmas and all the best for the rest of the season.WATP.
@spurskingstv2 күн бұрын
@@colincameron4217 Merry Christmas to you too Colin. COYS.
@Patrick18960Күн бұрын
@@colincameron4217 as a Spurs fan who also follows Celtic, if goes without saying that I hate Rangers 😜but credit where it is due - Rangers deserved to win that game as they played with more desire, passion and skill than Spurs. Plus the noise and support from the fans was fantastic and made for a great atmosphere so fair do!
@enetaokenabirhie29312 күн бұрын
27:05 Nope sorry.....Calling out Werner is a cop out from Ange..... loads were shocking....he's picked on him as HE KNOWS the fanbase ain't feeling him. Yet it deflecting the double signing of Werner...Hes turning the bloody blame... Its not clever
@jonboycoys643 күн бұрын
He signed Werner twice. Its on you Ange.
@windrider61242 күн бұрын
Levy signing
@barrymccormick39112 күн бұрын
@@windrider6124RUBBISH!! = Flange signed it off! Wise - up! Generational Youngsters = He signed them off! Geeeezzz!
@5678hgvhjkjnbnm2 күн бұрын
@@windrider6124Twice in a row? It was Ange who wanted him back in for sure otherwise it would've only been signed at the end of the window, not the start. Everyone needs to stop defending Ange for everything the man does. Nobody is immune to criticism.
@leoephrem48893 күн бұрын
Ange out, Levy, munn, enic, Lange, all out. That’s the only way we can improve.
@Patrick189602 күн бұрын
You’re right about that unfortunately. It’s either that happens or we ALL need to get out and go somewhere else😆
@grahammcdowall50192 күн бұрын
I think if kulusevski hadn't come on i think rangers would have won...the swede was the difference between spurs getting a point & them getting beaten...he made a big difference to spurs play
@DB-gt9jm2 күн бұрын
Big up Marlon speaks a lot of sense and backs it up with facts and knowledge - just followed your channel and look forward to watching your content. We all know Ange is on his way its just when
@spurskingstv2 күн бұрын
Thank you
@RYANLAIDLAW-n4n3 күн бұрын
Great show guys. Always good to get on here after a bad performance and hear some balance. Other shows that are all negative even after a win just aren’t good for the soul, and only for fans who support that narrative. Some don’t even do a show after a win 👀 Keep up the good work and yes god help they have a better 2 half of the year.
@juniormafia803 күн бұрын
Haha you got absolutely cooked on savvas stream the other day.. Sit down 😂
@RYANLAIDLAW-n4n3 күн бұрын
@ yeah he did didn’t he haha. So Lovely to get his attention. Sorry why do I need to sit down though? You didn’t even get to hear what I wanted to say when I sent my message. Mate, why would I come on that show and get abused? Settle down. I’m done with that show, it ain’t for me and we don’t agree. But for him to berate me in front of everyone calling me a C bomb when all I did was give an opinion just goes to show you. He says I’m aggressive on other channels? Far from it…. wtf how aggressive was that? That show has no balance whatsoever, it’s a negative bias just drumming up the hate. That’s not support!!! He didn’t even read out what I wrote caus it goes against his narrative and then he blocks me pffft. He presents facts which yes aren’t the greatest at the moment I agree, but anyone can present their own facts from their own rabbit hole without presenting other balanced positives. This is the most compelling fact you’ll hear… it’s called a REBUILD with limited rotations and injury crisis and will be painful so have some patience. Some fans have no time or compassion for that. Who you gonna get this time in a rebuild anyway? If it doesn’t work out in a few more windows then I will sit down… fair play. Until then I will back Ange. We can see the positive football he brings when it’s cooking but still heaps of work to do. Lower your expectations, they’re mid table team at best.
@juniormafia803 күн бұрын
@@RYANLAIDLAW-n4n you don't even know what rebuild means, that says it all for me.. To rebuild from something would suggest we had something built before.. In the last 24 years of Enic there's been 1 league cup.. What exactly are we rebuilding from? You're delusional and you think someone pointing out facts is them being negative.. Keep clapping
@ianpereira31193 күн бұрын
@@RYANLAIDLAW-n4nplease remind me when spurs last finished mid table
@StatesideFooty272 күн бұрын
I'll say it again, lay off Timo Werner. He's not and has never been a winger. Playing the wing is like the moon to Werner. He's got no natural feel for the position. When Timo Werner is at his best form, he's playing off off the shoulder of a target 9 in a two striker RB Leipzig system. If you want to get his best, play him up top, and let him find his finishing touch
@patrickcahill66683 күн бұрын
TJ is spot on, but giving the ball away has become a constant theme. At Galatasaray, we could have conceded 10. Forster is doing well, but he's not been on a winning team since he took over as number one.
@RenegadeSound3 күн бұрын
Indeed , look at the sheer amount of shots we have conceded . Unsustainable if we have aspirations of a European place .
@lewiskemp48502 күн бұрын
We need to sign a leader. A dominant, vocal, intimidating and respected leader of men. I struggle to believe that every player in our squad lacks the minerals to lead. But, it has been said for years, we lack this commanding individual. PEH was vocal and had the leadership skills to a point, but perhaps not the player needed. Maybe we need more than one, but someone needs to link things up. We are what we are - upper middle mid.
@IrishSpursFan3 күн бұрын
in over 50 years of watching Spurs this is as poorly coached side I have ever seen :(
@davidmcgeoch93873 күн бұрын
Really? Because if that’s true you’ve seen a Tottenham team get relegated.
@dvp362 күн бұрын
the lack of passion from this group of players is perhaps the biggest problem . The work off the ball is a joke lack of passion unwillingness to close down space . Can’t blame the manager for no heart.
@IrishSpursFan2 күн бұрын
@@davidmcgeoch9387 yes I have but this group has way more talent than that side
@DonCarly0072 күн бұрын
Son was poor, Bissouma was ridiculous, Kulu was the only one who gave me hope, theres no leader in the squad....Jan he will need to add.
@ChristopherHornsey2 күн бұрын
Johnson is such a frustrating footballer.... he might have done better scoring goals, but nothing else he does contributes to the game. He has so many opportunities to run at full backs but passes back, cannot cross, cannot dribble, I just don't see him as a top top player, mid table to Championship is his range.........he needs upgrading in the summer as need wingers like that Cerny for Rangers having a run and dribble to create chances!!! Chelsea ruined Werner like they ruin many players before or nearly ruin like Salah and De Bruyne. The guy was prolific at RB Leipzig. Such a shame his confidence has gone over the years and he just not good enough footballer now Get rid of Bissouma as well. The midfield is the weakest area for Spurs, knew it would be when Pierre and Skip would leave and don't get proper replacements in!!! I really like the number 43 for Rangers Raskin, he had bite, was aggressive in the tackle, led the midfield. I would have had him in our midfield tonight!!! Love the panel tonight..... agree with many points but agree mostly with orignalhartman......the fans are not realistic at the moment, squad was never going to challenge this year. Spurs have not been in the "we have the right to beat so and so teams" for years as so many fans think they should be..... and Rangers are a massive club, regardless of the squad they have. Was always going to be a tricky game, but not seeing some of the players not playing annoys me!!
@LeighRichards273 күн бұрын
We got out of jail big time - rangers should have been 3 goals up before we scored. And really disappointed to see Ange publicly hanging Werner out to dry after the game - Ange wud do better to look at his own in game tactics. And he keeps talking about not having any 'options' without mentioning its because of a shocking summer transfer window which he keeps telling us he was 'happy' with.
@ianpereira31193 күн бұрын
I think in the short space of time ange has been here the squad is coming on nicely. Couple more windows we'll be ready unless you think changing a whole squad can be done in 18 months?
@LeighRichards273 күн бұрын
The squad is weaker than the squad we had last season, thanks to a very poor summer transfer window. But it reduced the club's wage bill - which we all know is what matters to our owners @@ianpereira3119
@jacklegros66143 күн бұрын
@@ianpereira3119Nonsense!!
@AdamsSpursView2 күн бұрын
@@ianpereira3119 how is the squad coming on nicely are you blind or something? Not 1 player in our starting 11 or bench when everyones fit gets into arsenal city liverpool or chelsea's squads.... maybe van de ven at a push, but all our other players are inconsistent, average or coming to the end in son's case
@kirkhammett21072 күн бұрын
We know TImo is crap, he signed him twice. He should have mentioned Son in that as well, he was awful
@paulkirk69893 күн бұрын
Keep seeing comments saying Archie Gray was '' composed , I would bet He and Werner was the worst players for losing or giving the ball away and the rest were pretty bad .
@jacklegros66143 күн бұрын
Gray is pretty average
@StaffanDeluxe3 күн бұрын
Kulu should be our captain next season. If he is still here..
@kcplumbingservices3 күн бұрын
No confidence no effort
@phillipanthonyjoseph25563 күн бұрын
With the fixture list the way it is and the intensity that Ange requires of them to play his way I think players save themselves for the big games Man U and Liverpool at home I think there is a fear if they play with tha intensity every game they are going to pick up injuries
@chickling79012 күн бұрын
The squad is so thin that Ange cannot rest/bench.drop players when they aren't playing well. What the hell is he supposed to do?
@barrymccormick39112 күн бұрын
Open his gob at the start of the season and see what most could see = For what games we had on our plate. We never had enough if injuries occurred.
@chickling79012 күн бұрын
@@barrymccormick3911 Mate, that makes no grammatical sense. Try again....
@johncampbell3153 күн бұрын
The only positive from this game is that we played better with 11 men in the second half a message to ange stop playing with 9 men in the first half🙄😊
@Jedimm2 күн бұрын
Ricky and LWOS, we cannot say Poch got everything out of the players we can get when one of those players was Harry Kane that we did not pay for. He is one of a generation. Son was on the up.
@RootyToot-c1v2 күн бұрын
LOL it's not 'risk-averse' football Ricky - it's exactly the opposite! Thank you guys for another great stream, you're all helping to keep me sane ATM.
@andrewcairns24963 күн бұрын
It's an old adage but the game is won and lost in midfield. With that in mind, Biss has been shocking for far too long. Sloppy passes, not tracking back, being out of position, clumsy tackles, no leadership. I know alternatives are slim but jesus, he needs a kick up the arse.
@chrissmith60223 күн бұрын
Just a little bit of perspective from a Rangers fan … your second half subs are worth more than our entire club. Sad to hear the continued tropes about pub leagues etc,
@ulsterbeargaming49712 күн бұрын
Rangers run you ragged WATP
16 сағат бұрын
Just listened great podcast again . I Love Hartman & agree with most comments only one thing it’s not about not being realistic we are as spurs fans but we should expect more. We should expect to play premiership league football level.Every game should be better than the last . What worries me is most of seasons we are usually better before Christmas so god help us this season . As for playing for themselves play for their profession that they get paid lots of money yes short lived but they will survive in their pensions because they are good at football. Also play for their careers & fans ,that pay a hell of a lot of money to watch , I know so many traveled up to Glasgow. As for levy /ange out it’s not going to change because we rant and swear at social media at.Be constructive with criticism& recommendations.
@izuaff043 күн бұрын
Any kid nowadays that can kick a ball labeled as professional and get paid 50k a week....standards has really fallen..
@5678hgvhjkjnbnm2 күн бұрын
Think thats just our shitty scouting system tbh...
@vickymorris63232 күн бұрын
🤣
@chickling79012 күн бұрын
People forget about the goal we scored. The build-up was meticulous, measured and well finished. That is what we can do when we stick to the plan and hold onto the ball.
@Patrick189602 күн бұрын
Even a blind mouse will find the cheese once in a while
@chickling79012 күн бұрын
@@Patrick18960 What a stupid thing to say.
@Patrick189602 күн бұрын
@chickling7901 How so?
@chickling79012 күн бұрын
@@Patrick18960 Because as soon as we trusted the system and built-up properly, we scored.
@Patrick189602 күн бұрын
@ in the same vein I can point to how in every game with a few exceptions, we needlessly and carelessly give the ball away in the opposition end which leads to a rapid counter and the ball in our own net. You tend to forget about the number of times this occurs even when playing teams like Ipswich ffs. You can’t look at goals in isolation and make a judgement that his “system” is working
@dvp362 күн бұрын
Can talk about tactics all day but the reality is the lack of effort from that team is a joke . Don’t play as a team, work off the ball is embarrassing don’t close space or work for each other , Reality is that Postecoglou needs guys who will leave everything on the park and work manically for the cause . It isn’t happening and that’s unforgivable.. Rangers are a really poor team , Celtic slap them about in 2nd gear with such ease ,they don’t give the ball away and have them chasing shadows . So no excuses.
@colincameron42173 күн бұрын
Just one more point. Getting paid 60k per week doesnt guarantee performance
@lynseywheeler52332 күн бұрын
Southampton are down I expect them to play with a freedom we will struggle with …How many Spurs players buy into Ange.
16 сағат бұрын
Great podcast only just got a chance to listen. I love Hartman & agree with a lot of his comments. But being realistic we are as spurs fans. But we should expect more we should expect premiership league football. Players should be playing for themselves, their wages yes short lived but they won’t be worried about pensions. They are paid it cos they are meant to good at football.Play for their fans that pay lots of money to watch them. I know iota of people were in Glasgow. We usually play better most seasons before new year , god help us this season .As for constantly hearing ranting & swearing at levy &ange levy is not going anywhere. So save it give constructive criticism &recomendations. Cos it just gives another excuse on why the team are not performing.
@jonboycoys643 күн бұрын
get to the protest on the 22nd. Have a voice.
@StaffanDeluxe3 күн бұрын
Anyone else think they rak "free from desire" to literally?
@ericnoack13243 күн бұрын
Seriously I can show you why we make things so hard for ourselves I watched this on Sammy Sk and his tracking chart shows exactly what the problem is. Coming out of defense , we just fck around with the ball too much.While we have our little triangle passing party the opposition is already on their spots, you stand here I stand there how does it look coach ? Meanwhile, our lot are still farting around with the ball and I hear someone call out " Are you guys set yet ? ' "yeh where set,just let me check my chart first. now you can come forward and see if you can get through " Bloody hell, I am pulling my hair out by this point , and so must many of the fans, Amge is having a fit on the side line and looks like he is about to give birth, but no one is listening. We need new troops, we need to change the captainancy , no one is leading the young, no one is bossing their mates, it's like oh Udoggie , excuse me , can you just come back a tad if you don;t mind ? yeh sure mate fck u !! Ok I know these guys are cooked , and that is a point missed by the pundits , ummmmm how many cups were we playing in last season ??? NONE DITTO ........bee geesus guys this team is running on empty .
@johnmanifavas26103 күн бұрын
Any bloody system you play, if the players don't perform to the level they should you wil fail
@paulkirk69893 күн бұрын
Started openly criticising players , next it will be Levi and the board after a barren January transfer window , then it will be the sack.
@kevg7073 күн бұрын
hiding behind injuries has nothing to do with not being able to pass a effing ball properly and for someone the other day who says he dont pubically call out players another lie from him calling out Werner
@jacklegros66143 күн бұрын
The passing at times is dreadful
@jonboycoys642 күн бұрын
He agreed to it. These aree my players he said. He is a yes man. Get him out. Come to the enic out demo on the 22nd.
@robinrunham80092 күн бұрын
Great show guys. Feel Ange fan base spit players need look self no passion pride in shirt. Feel away fans coys
@gareth.branicki14223 күн бұрын
At the moment we threadbare with injuries needed more expo in summer as well as youth. Interest their were games last season we ahead it’s the second half early and we tiring he bought Højbjerg on and tightened up we did grind out and at times scored extra time winners losing Højbjerg was a mistake without getting va senior international who can break it down and slow it hardest is one who will join a team to only be a second half sub neither Biss or Bentancur's can general a midfield when we have to hold on or grind it out
@user-d9h7i2 күн бұрын
Son should be fired. He is overpaid and at his age has no future.
@jonboycoys643 күн бұрын
How many re builds? Enic out.
@naughtypaperclip-bb9yn3 күн бұрын
Our team wouldn't get out of the championship so bad such a toxic club now and on the bbc gossip we've been linked with another 18 year old great i feel so sorry to season ticket holders you pay so much to watch that team i went to Bournemouth great evening out but spurs headless chickens rubbish first time years going to a live game disappointing to see my team lack any clue of a plan with a highline
@iHateeeMarmite3 күн бұрын
"Give Ange time" 😂😂😂😂
@jacklegros66143 күн бұрын
And more time ..and more time ...
@John-g8s7r2 күн бұрын
We need a real captain on the pitch like a John Terry or Tony Adam’s
@radstevens3 күн бұрын
Ange is a coach and a manager, make no mistake. So dismissive and shortsighted, he's coached players to perform better everywhere he's been and is doing it now at Spurs. So reactionary... "It's only 4, 5 or 6 of the starting lineup missing ... They're not playing for the manager" 😅 seriously, it's laughable commentary They have a WEAKER squad than last year yet are playing Europa League. Where are the Hojberg and Perisic replacements not to mention loss of Kane, didn't get Eze or Neto etc Where is the Bastian Schweinsteiger of the 2014 WC final ? Midfield is shit Frankie de Jong from Barcelona and Angelo Stiller from Stuttgart, give them a go plus some rotation on FB and CB ✌️
@jacklegros66143 күн бұрын
But the players are not good enough irrespective of manager