Hello, I am Italian, It was a very good lesson but I think you got the ecclesiastical pronunciation of the word Caesar wrong, the classical is indeed as you say, but in minute 7:00 you say that the ecclesiastical latin would read "cheesar" but no as far as I know "ae" is read like the English sound for the colour "red" so it's cEsar non cheesar", the "e" sound is like in the word "regina" or the English word "set" not like the English word "English", you got it right with caelum, you need to be careful with that tendency or students might get confused.
@metatronyt10 жыл бұрын
oh and also why "ueeni" for "veni", shouldn't the "e" be pronounced like the e in red here too? so ok with the "v" becoming ueni but I would still say "ueni uidi uiki" not "ueeni uidi uiki" like you say O.O
@metatronyt10 жыл бұрын
A part from that good lesson prof :) Grazie
@bigbeddie9 жыл бұрын
Metatron yes, not ee by any stretch of the imagination.....
@Tenryuu195 жыл бұрын
Also, Julius Caesar wasn't a Roman Emperor
@pentuplove65424 жыл бұрын
@@Tenryuu19 oh we got an edit, how many more edits? Julius Ceasar was Dictator of Rome.
@Nasengold6 жыл бұрын
For people wondering about the "c-sound": There was actually a latin dude back then who created a literate school and proclaimed to change the hard c and make it soft in some cases. Before it was ALWAYS hard. Well documented in latin scripts. So the clasical hard c-sound is actually a fact. It also explains why romance languages today don't understand it. It was simply changed troughout roman times. Sardinians still pronounce it hard to this day.
@jamburga32111 ай бұрын
"There was actually a latin dude back then who created a literate school and proclaimed to change the hard c and make it soft in some cases. " Really that's interestign?
@JayDillon-mm6yv8 жыл бұрын
"e" is pronounced "eh" not "ee" in Veni "i" is pronounced "ee" not "aye" in Vidi
@mirkosala9197 жыл бұрын
Jay Dillon veni, vidi, vici it is said how it is written
@nomore90045 жыл бұрын
Vēni, Vidī, Vīci
@jonathanvalk7264 жыл бұрын
@@mirkosala919 no, veni is pronounced like: wehni, not wini.
@richardbulva8 ай бұрын
@@jonathanvalk726 no. veni is pronounced veni. not wehni or wini.
@mirefleurs9 жыл бұрын
Yes. Except that "Veni" is not pronounced "wini" like you said Dwane, but "Wéni". A "e" is a "e"... the english confuses the sounds, but latin languages never.
@Olo-h6t2m Жыл бұрын
You are right
@zBlacksad11 жыл бұрын
What you're speaking here is best described as American Latin. Sorry :/
@etiennedegaulle38175 жыл бұрын
I'm American and his pronunciation burns my ears. He'd be better off learning modern Italian and going with that pronunciation.
@FlourescentPotato4 жыл бұрын
@Mike Daniels it's true though.
@fraternitas51174 жыл бұрын
this video should honestly be deleted
@MrViki604 жыл бұрын
@Mike Daniels stfu dumbass
@foaly84 жыл бұрын
somehow I doubt the romans were pronouncing the 'r' the american way..
@dylanryan34323 жыл бұрын
why?
@the-bruh.cum53 жыл бұрын
@@dylanryan3432 well look at the romances languages none of them have the american R even frickin old english had the R trill so yeah
@edwardmiessner65029 ай бұрын
Exactly. Roman R's were pronounced with a trill or an alveolar tap, like in Spanish.
@soundtracks66566 жыл бұрын
You, as an English speaker, have a bad pronunciation of Latin! Many Latin sounds are different of how you pronounce them, including C and T.
@Jadranas5 жыл бұрын
Very good point. Old languages, from Mediteranean and surrounding area have straight sounds (a=ah, e=eh, i=ee o = oh (no u sound), u=oo), different from English.
@ferdinand40264 жыл бұрын
The pronunciation of "c" was always /k/. The only languages that have this are Welsh and some other Celtic languages which were under Latin influence at one point.
@undergroundskeptic29164 жыл бұрын
I do not comprehend the reason for the amount of likes of this video.
@beeonebautista90354 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, English speakers have the worst pronunciation of Latin. The most qualified people to teach us that are Italians or Spaniards.
@beeonebautista90354 жыл бұрын
I have to agree, English speakers have the worst pronunciation of Latin. The most qualified people to teach us that are Italians or Spaniards.
@SloveintzWend11 жыл бұрын
Anglophones have difficulties when pronouncing vowels when learning foreign languages. That's due to their "Great Vowel Shift" that shaped modern English language in early modern times. Some vowels shifted some became diphthongs. Its very hard to "unlearn" this.
@davidmusicmaker3 жыл бұрын
And the incessant dipthonging!
@boneyboban19456 жыл бұрын
Brilliant. Explained everything in pronunciation. Hats off to you Sir.
@francesca70936 жыл бұрын
You were very helpful. Most people are afraid of Latin. You made it interesting and relaxing. You're a great teacher. Thank you. PS. Veni is pronounced "E=egg" Veni. It's very hard for American speaking people to pronounce Latin. AEIOU are pronounced differently in English. In Italian I'm able to understand the sound. In English I see where the problems are in the pronunciations.
@jakobpfeil42432 жыл бұрын
no it is not. i think in english [e] does not exist
@Philoglossos10 жыл бұрын
Why are you pronouncing it with an anglophone "R"?
@metatronyt10 жыл бұрын
Probably because he is American and can't roll his R. But I agree that he should say that the "r" should be rolled like in modern Italian or Spanish. If he says that then I woudln't have a problem with his anglophone "r" as some people just can't get the rolling of the "r", but yes it is important to specify.
@Philoglossos10 жыл бұрын
Metatron Ciao! Come va? xD
@metatronyt10 жыл бұрын
Bathrobe Samurai ahaha bene grazie :D e tu? :)
@Philoglossos10 жыл бұрын
Metatron Benissimo! xD Tornerò in italia tra meno di tre mesi, quindi sto provando a praticare l'italiano molto xD. Com'è la tua scuola?
@metatronyt10 жыл бұрын
tutto bene a scuola grazie ^_^ ecco! Infatti per un attimo mi sono chiesto: "ma Bathrobe Samurai era italiano?!" ahah complimenti per il tuo italiano. Dove andrai in Italia? In quale città?
@braschigiovanniangelo55598 жыл бұрын
I'm from Rome and latin here is kept only by some small traditional catholic churchs during the service. Latin pronunciation is different from yours. Yours look more an Anglo-Saxon pronounciation!
@Ivansthename7 жыл бұрын
It’s tough, he has a bad accent and messes up sometimes. Still he probably know lots.
@keegster71676 жыл бұрын
+Ivansthename Don't trust him just because he's an expert. He's no expert when it comes to pronunciation. Read Vox Latina, or any other good Latin pronunciation guide (made by linguists though, Latinists don't care much about pronunciation and it shows), even a small amount, and you'll see that he got his vowels and consonants both very wrong.
@stonker_the_isophile3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@lindamiranda287710 жыл бұрын
I am learning Latin because I want to understand Spanish better and to help me in pronouncing some of the big Law words, since I am a Political Science major and I come across a lot of words that are Latin.
@johnbenson49276 жыл бұрын
Linda Miranda My friend, if you want to learn Spanish then start learning Spanish, not Latin. Latin is far more complex.
@edwardmiessner65029 ай бұрын
Beware! Except for a few who know better, we USAmericans pronounce Latin almost completely wrong! For example I've heard a US Supreme Court justice pronounce certiorari as "sir-shir-ree" 🤢
@peterszeug3089 жыл бұрын
Actually, what I have learned, is that classical latin around 0 AD was pronounced much more french, that vowels before nf and ns were nasals and the ns were dropped, and that m at the end of words were also dropped and the previous vowel was nasalized. And also that the s was more pronounced like in portuguese.
@abelpalmer5523 жыл бұрын
You are correct, however the basic rules as stated here by him still hold.
@pite911 жыл бұрын
Note that the german word for emperor is Kaiser, a word that without a doubt was introduced to the germans by the romans. The romans most definately pronounced Caesar as a K-word. We know this because if it was a S-word, then the germans would have written it with a S, as Saiser.
@giampierover783211 жыл бұрын
are you sure? classic latin pronunciation is not credible. www.forumarcheologia.it/antica-roma/pronuncia-della-lingua-latina-t39.html
@fdsbernardo10 жыл бұрын
giampiero ver I am Portuguese and it is very straight foward for us to read latin. But this classical pronouciation is just wrong. I don't have a doubt about it.Beside that there are actualy many things about the correct pronounciation tant i don't see discussed anywhere. I even truly believe as a native speaker of a lalin language that Lex and Rex is supposed to be read (lays) and (Rays). Like the words still used today in italy portugal and spain. This claasical reconstructing team didn't have a clue about it.
@rentaghostokish562810 жыл бұрын
Fernando Bernardo Nonsense. Just coz you are portuguese doesn't give you any natural advantage in latin. Stick to losing at soccer and ex-colonies.
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
Fernando Bernardo Hahah, funny. I'm originally Romanian, so also a native speaker of a Latin Language, and we too pronounce Lex and Rex just as they're written.
@JosephYanchar10 жыл бұрын
Fernando Bernardo These pronunciations of 'lex' and 'rex' are because your language has been vulgarized from the original Classical Latin. Classical reconstruction is much more complicated than just referring to a single Romance language, yo.
@giampierover783210 жыл бұрын
Il suono della V è di derivazione Etrusca (era rappresentato da F rivolta a sinistra) Valerius si legge Valerius e non Ualerius (Oualerios come traslittera Polibio). Vedi Nigidio Figulo. La pronuncia "classica" è un cotinuum di errori.
@proarte40819 жыл бұрын
+giampiero ver La pronuncia cosiddetta "classica" è un'enorme mistificazione....già il fatto che i suoi inventori l'abbiano definita "classica" la dice lunga su un certo grado di ideologica presunzione. Al massimo potrebbe essere definita "arcaica", o pronuncia delle origini, più o meno come si parlava ai tempi della codificazione dell'alfabeto latino...cioè nel VII secolo Avanti Cristo...il ché dice poco o nulla su come la gente comune pronunciasse il latino 700 anni dopo...nell'era classica, ai tempi di Cicerone e Giulio Cesare.
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh4 жыл бұрын
E' un imbroglio in inglese. Senz'altro dopo secoli le parole latine in inglese hanno una pronuncia 'nativa'. Poi, per la musica si usa la pronuncia ecclesiastica. Poi, 'recentemente' arriva la pronuncia restituita: 'restored classical pronunciation'.
@AlessioGiandomenicoMameli8 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry, but I want to remarke that you pronounce the latin vowels as they were like the english vowels! that's very wrong! You have to read them as they are pronounced in Italian and in Spanish language.
@junemelo99293 жыл бұрын
Thank you Dwane. I really didnt know about classical. I often heard latin in catholic rituals and ceremonies. This is new to me. Thank you again.
@gianfrancow28509 жыл бұрын
Shoudn't the vocal "E" be read like in the word "Emerald"??
@BroadcastBro6 жыл бұрын
Yeah exactly
@Auoric6 жыл бұрын
It depends wether or not it has a bar above it.
@animox90384 жыл бұрын
The english accent in his Latin is a bit annoying
@Chairman_LmaoZedong Жыл бұрын
English has completely ruined original Latin pronunciation.
@animox9038 Жыл бұрын
@@Chairman_LmaoZedong true
@RahulKumar-ju3ym Жыл бұрын
Annoyance is good sign that means u r immersed 😊language of the god's...latin
@GreatMusicVideos9 жыл бұрын
veni was never pronounced like "vini" - what are you talking... you have no idea of classical latin..
@keegster71676 жыл бұрын
ikr. smh.
@sebastiankwintal28285 жыл бұрын
In classic latin rhere was v and u described the same way, f.e. „vvlgata” = „vulgata”, and c was sometimes k and sometimes s or c. So Julius Cezar /Yulious Csezzar/ and not /Kezzar/
@antoniosavalgarcia024 жыл бұрын
Caesar was actually pronounced /kaesar/
@sebastiankwintal28284 жыл бұрын
@@antoniosavalgarcia02 maybe /kaesar/ maybe /chaesar/ or maybe /csaesar/ the problem is: nobody knows it for sure today.
@joslez75739 ай бұрын
@@sebastiankwintal2828Si si sabe con seguridad: hay estudios filológicos al respecto. Ignorante.
@Scuppetta1998IT8 жыл бұрын
6:07 in veni the "E" letter sounds like in regina not like the English one. Caesar sounds very different from how you pronunced. Great video anyway :)
@laurencesiegel93622 жыл бұрын
Yes, the way I learned Classical Latin from an eminent classicist born in 1915, Caesar is pronounced KY-SAHR (equal stress on the syllables), not Kaiser. Wenny widdy wicky. I call it prep school pronunciation.
@SockMonkeySwag10 жыл бұрын
"vini, vidi, vici" = "I came, I saw, I conquered". Where is the "I' ending and the imperfect tense parts in that? And if it is supposed to be just that, then shouldn't there be the "I" ending (o) and the imperfect tense (ba)? If anyone knows, please comment. Thanks.
@visuallatin10 жыл бұрын
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@mackenziecook55709 жыл бұрын
Its in the perfect not the imperfect- perfect has different endings than o s t mus tis nt it has rather I isti it imus istis erunt
@helgedell7 жыл бұрын
Ended up here by coincidence, following a discussion about how to pronounce "Caesar". You're coming through as a great teacher, keeping the ancient materiel fresh. Well done! :)
@bilbohob71794 жыл бұрын
Sure he pronounce it wrongly.
@eurech2 жыл бұрын
@@bilbohob7179 You're utterly ignorant. There are several ways to pronounce Latin.
@DINSDAY778 жыл бұрын
Hi, I am done with my basic grammar classes which I did well on. Now I am in my Second semester of translation and what I translate always comes out as nonsense. My teacher goes way to fast as does not like to slow down at all and gives you no clue as to what she might pick for the exam after we have translated a book....I love Latin and put in the time but I feel like giving up. Like there is something wrong with me. Does this get better? What can I do this summer to focus in on making my reading comprehension better. ?
@edwardmiessner65029 ай бұрын
Get bilingual books from the Loeb Classical Library in the Holyoke Building, Harvard Square in Cambridge Mass., outside of Boston. I'm sure they're also online.
@irvin29511 жыл бұрын
Isn't the R rolled?
@ede_17 жыл бұрын
Irvin Gomez Yes, it should be!
@elliotvernon79716 жыл бұрын
Latin grammarians from the classical period described the sound R as ‘the dog sound’, which suggests it was more gutteral like the modern French ‘r’ than the effeminate rolling of modern Italian.
@tenienteramires44286 жыл бұрын
It should be a tap, as in American English TT in the word "beTTer".
@Kjalarrr5 жыл бұрын
@@elliotvernon7971 The French went out of their way to pronounce their r's that way. Latin would not have had that r. Lol
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh4 жыл бұрын
@@elliotvernon7971 Effeminate rolling of the Italians. So, is it also the 'effeminate' rolling of the Spaniards, the Romanians... as well ? Not to mention the Sicilians! Tu es cretinus magnus.
@TG-oq2jx4 жыл бұрын
I like how everybody in the commenta suddenly is a Latin teacher
@philv252910 жыл бұрын
in classical pronunciation you said "creavit" instead of "creawit"
@senarajapaksha63665 жыл бұрын
Dil upnar or preeth psrai
@barbthornell47867 жыл бұрын
But the way his videos/instructions are organized, these are the most easily RETAINABLE lessons I've ever seen.
@debanjandutta1591 Жыл бұрын
Excellent sir, I've watched your video class for the first time and very much eager to learn The Latin from basics, you have detailed in comparison with English words. It's clear how Latin syllable is different from English. I've watched many other videos but could not clear it before. Thank you sir, once again. Greetings from India.
@calcinatoir9 жыл бұрын
I find it helps to use the actual dipthong Æ to remember that it is a long A (aie) sound rather than a short A (ah) sound. IN PRINCIPIO CREAVIT DEVS CÆLUM ET TERRAM for example. (Classical does not employ U. a V is always a U such as in SALVE "Saloo'eh" or VICI "Ueekee")
@ArizonaPatriot9 жыл бұрын
At 2:42, when you say that V always has the W sound, were you speaking of Classical or Ecclesiastical Latin, because I do not believe that you specified as much, though if I had to infer, I would have to assume that you meant the Classical pronunciation as that is the way you've addressed each of the preceding letters thus far. Thank you.
@visuallatin9 жыл бұрын
+Antigone Freimann Hi, Antigone! Yes. I was referring to Classical Latin.
@ArizonaPatriot9 жыл бұрын
I thought as much but appreciate the confirmation.
@christinezaslavsky6475 жыл бұрын
Thank God for this channel! My 12-yr-old son likes Dwane’s style. His videos help us with Henle 1. Having said this, I will address all these critical commentators: Type in latintutor channel to hear gorgeous pronunciation as well as more advanced teaching. 😊
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
It's a good lesson. Although, it's Veni Vedi, Vici. All with a 'V'. V is indeed 'u' or 'oo' but only in some situations. **EDIT: After further research I must admit I was wrong. In classic Latin, V is indeed pronounced with the 'w' sound.
@Artecus10 жыл бұрын
Hi Protector, please amend your comment. It is confusing my mother. I tell her, "No, he said he is mistaken. He knows it's `w'." But, she keeps pointing at your comment.
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
Arthur E. Michalak Done! I hope your mother believes you now.
@Artecus10 жыл бұрын
Protector of the Republic Thanks, mate. I will show her and shout 'AHA'.
@MrRXY1110 жыл бұрын
why is "vici" pronounced "viki" even though "c" is in front of "i" and should be pronounced like "ch", or is the "i" showing, that the word is in past simple and is irregular?
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
MrRXY11 To be honest, I'm not exactly sure. When I was a kid back in Romania and we were learning Latin back in school, we first learned our own vulgar pronunciation, which is just like you said, with the "ch" sound. Then we also learned about the pronunciation historians believe to be correct and it was with the 'k" sound instead of "ch". After lately doing more online research on the matter, I've found that nobody actually knows with certainty was the actual pronunciation was. The church pronounces Latin one way, Classic scholars another way, individual romance language speaking countries a different way, some historians have their own theories, and so on. I have to say I prefer the vulgarized pronunciation version I first learned (almost identical to how Italians pronounce Latin too) because it's the closest to my native language. So really, I'm not sure.
@saharvarona4 жыл бұрын
how do i pronounce Sine paenitentia vive,
@alfazveersingh29243 жыл бұрын
what is langauge.i indian
@nurlatifahmohdnor89392 жыл бұрын
Page 163 calumet = n the peace pipe [C18: from Canad. F, from F: straw, from LL calamellus a little reed, from L: CALAMUS]
@steelandbanjo10 жыл бұрын
Which dinosaur can jump higher than a house? None of them- dinosaurs are all dead.
@iraf.official2 жыл бұрын
2022.08.30. 20:30
@Schlog14 жыл бұрын
And AFAIK, Ss in classic Latin were never pronounced as 'z' before a vowel, like they are in English, Italian, etc. So 'Caesar' is actually 'kai-sar', not 'kai-zar'.
@matteobasile5846 жыл бұрын
Why do you pronounce Regina correctly, meanwhile you say Veni with the sound of E like (E)at? You should pronounce Veni with the same sound of E like (E)xaxtly
@joegormley27614 жыл бұрын
Persistently stumbles over the ae combination. Oh dear.
@juliegonzalez9843 Жыл бұрын
Great video! Very interesting. Do you have handouts?
@adamdickson14045 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this simple and easy to understand explanation - fascinating!
@gianfrancow28509 жыл бұрын
if you want to listen the best latin pronuntiation on the planet just search youtube for this italian professor.. luigi miraglia
@5Dale653 жыл бұрын
In Europe, in Poland at least, they teach even other pronunciation called "traditional". "Ae" is pronunciated as short "e". "C" is "ts" before e, i, ae, y. Yes it's "ts" sound, not "ch" like in Italian. So "caelum" would be "tselum" with "ts" and short "e". The "g" however is always hard. "V" is always "v", never "w". There are some other strange oddities however. "Qui" is "kvi", "quod" is "kvod" and "sua" is "sva". "Ti" like in "actio" is "-tsio", thus "aktsio". Have anyone ever encountered such pronunciation? Don't know if it is isolated to Poland and teaching Latin here, it might be because many Latin words in Polish are pronunciated similiar, like "akcja" (action) is "aktsia", "wino" (wine) is "vino" (despite it's written with "w"), "perswazja" (persuasion) - "persvazya".
@BTL6666 Жыл бұрын
I think the C pronounced as a TS is very much influenced by the Slavic pronunciation of the letter C...For ex , in Romania, when we learn Latin C is C ( the way you pronounce the letter K in Polish, and not TS)...and ae is pronounced more likely like E...so Caelum would be Celum( fonetically Chelum)...like you say it in Italian. But in the end which language is closer to Latin as pronunciation? Polish or Italian and Romanian?...V is V...qui ..is like cvi( kvi in polish and not tsvi)...sua will be sua and not sva...u will be pronounced as v only in the qui,quo,quod,,,like cvi,cvo,cvod...action will be said like actsio...I think that Slavic pronunciation of some letters influenced a lot the way you are thought Latin there in Poland!///and on top of that is the Classic Latin :))) So what you say, the way you are thought in schools might be in part of Europe( Poland and other Slavic countries) and not in all Europe...It'll be interesting for example to know how are they thought in Italy or France or Spain to pronunciate the Latin language?! So different countries, different costumes...and also very interesting in the same time!!!
@duvar31766 жыл бұрын
Basically, classical is read in Spanish and church Latin is read in Italian 😂😂
@sharvjoshi63043 жыл бұрын
Actually 'G' wasn't a letter in Roman Latin it was crated in medieval Europe by adding a tail of 'j' to 'C'
@edwardfranks52156 жыл бұрын
from below...as 10 sounds were heading to 7 or 5. and the letter a sounds of amica, amicae, amicae, amicam (no m pronounced) and amica ablative were reduced to one sound AH. By the way v was not a ww but an asperated vw as vwuh that became b in Spanish and Portuguese and Catalan.
@DaniellePasin8 жыл бұрын
uahauhauahauha thumbs up for the akward joke
@mea.histria7 ай бұрын
Caesar, decem, centum are pronounced with a "ch" in the Latin language because if not then it would be next words in a modern Italian pronounced with a "k" (e.g. Cesare, Cicerone, dieci, cento, celo, etc.), and what about many Italian surnames that are also pronounced with a "ch" (e.g. Lancia, Marcello, Luciani, Manzini, Carlucci, Ceccarelli, Cellario, Cecili, Colucci, Gucci, etc.).
@xp51262 жыл бұрын
How is ad and ab pronounced? Is it uh b or uh d (sheesh sound for a) or is it like we say it in English? Ab as in abdominal and ad as in addition.
@homersamson61707 жыл бұрын
What is also helping me is using Google translator to hear the correct pronunciation of the words. And by using that, I hope to get a natural feel for how Latin should be pronounced.
@Fritz_Haarmann2 жыл бұрын
Isn't that just the italian voice?
@dragonchild362 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thank you! I'm currently learning Latin on Duolingo and came across your channel. This clarifies a lot. Followed...lol.
@marija5rovic2 жыл бұрын
This is all wrong! He is pronouncing Veni vidi Vici WRONG!!!
@falgo66611 жыл бұрын
Wow, I have learned more handy things from this 7 minute video than from 3 years of studying university chemistry.
@mynameismarvin10 жыл бұрын
Hi! :) I just watched your video. Very informative for beginners. I'm not sure if you made a continuation to this video but I think you missed some pronunciation points for Classical Latin and Ecclesiastical Latin. Like how "gn", "sc", "ti" change in Ecclesiastical, and how "h" is silent in Ecclesiastical.
@dandelosangeles5614 жыл бұрын
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@ingotak9 жыл бұрын
Well, and what about medieval pronounciation of Latin? It has many forms and depends on the area. For example central Europe (Germany, Austria, Czech republic, Slovak republic, Hungary, Poland). It is similar to the church Latin but quite different. :)
@BTL6666 Жыл бұрын
I totally agree with what you say here...and also differently thought and expressed in the Latin descendent countries like Romania, France, Portugal, Italy, Spain...and on top of that is that the Classic/ Ecclesiastical Latin
@troyvalle26959 жыл бұрын
Your videos are great! I'm happy I found them here.
@mr.steady54984 жыл бұрын
I'm here to learn more but I feel like I've lost more lol
@inkstersco10 жыл бұрын
This video could benefit from a word or two on when to use each pronunciation e.g. doesn't medieval text usually use something like Ecclesiastical Latin. IOW in which dialects to use each pronunciation.
@Sinsta1311 жыл бұрын
im merely watching this because of the SUBSTANTIAL lack of interesting and FREE latin language resources. however, the video author seems incapable of pronouncing classical latin correctly. 1. roll your /r/'s 2. keep your vowels pure and clear 3. caesar is ['kai.sar] not ['kej.zø:] as in the vid. finally, i would like to state my lack of faith in the teacher due to his novice level mistakes. i shall stay here for a while though... and lol @ "kick-a-row"
@keegster71676 жыл бұрын
Yea, this pronunciation is the most atrocious that I've seen. Couldn't he have read Vox Latina at some point?! And although your pronunciation is very close, I'll just point out a couple things. It seems more likely (based on the spelling mostly but also it's evolution and the fact that Latin's sister languages spelt it differently) that was pronounced [ae̯] actually (though even though I marked the second one as nonsyllabic, they could have been the same length, but a a dipthong). And so it could be ['kae.sar]. Also, there is evidence, because of how Greek loanwords that began with /k/ were treated in colloquial Latin (they were loaned as /g/ in Latin), that the initial /k/ (maybe all /k/s?) could have been aspirated. So ['kʰae.sar] would also be correct.
@jamburga32111 ай бұрын
Also hasn't S evolved too? In church Latin, it also makes a z sound and while in classical Latin, it's always s?
@__donez__5 жыл бұрын
1:07 Was... was that a pater joke??
@subdread99879 жыл бұрын
holy crap. so that's why ceaser's legion pronounces ceaser differently.
@lucjannastalek99789 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but according to what you have said earlier wouldn't that be "kreawit Deus"?
@ptrblz11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video a great, simple and understandable explanation.
@dafo16486 жыл бұрын
And in German pronounciation the c makes before the e, i, ae, y the ts sound., like "Tsitsero".
@ksica6 жыл бұрын
i'm serbian and we pronounce it as 'ts' too eta: this is how we pronounce latin kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGPYmZmJhZegn5Y (yes, it's a song from carmina burana :))
@magister.mortran6 жыл бұрын
It is still wrong. It is neither classical nor ecclesiastical, it is just wrong. It is tsh (ecclesiastical) or k (classical).
@JayDillon-mm6yv8 жыл бұрын
"ae" is pronounced "aye" not "ay"
@AndreiPS8 жыл бұрын
Pot, meet kettle.
@loganlion63145 жыл бұрын
I’m just starting school in a new city. My mom asked me what I wanted to focus on as a new hobby. I told her I wanted to tackle the old Latin language. And to learn 1 new word a day. I found the translation for imagine. Which is meditati. But I can’t find anymore info on it other than imagination. I asked my teachers but the don’t know. Can anyone tell me if that is the Latin word for imagine? Thanks!
@johndavidthacker7 жыл бұрын
How are digraphs and dipthongs pronounced? As in "Kalanchoe"? (the 'ch' and 'oe' sounds) kal-un-KOH-ee?
@jacobfabian63928 жыл бұрын
Is this teaching the Latin the Romans spoke or modern church I want to learn Roman how would I do this ?
@cinemafanatic66876 жыл бұрын
my favorite animal is the fox and fox in latin is vulpes I'm confused on how to pronounce it is it (voo-l-peh-s/woo-l-peh-s) or (vuh-l-peh-s/wuhl-peh-s)?
@MaximKretsch9 жыл бұрын
I wonder what age-old voice record entitles you to state that in classical Latin "c" is "always" pronounced hard, no matter what vowel follows? In EACH modern latin language there is the same traditional distincion between ka~, ko~, ku~ on one side and ze~, zi~ on the other (if a cedille isn't added as diacritical symbol). It is most unlikely that this is all by coincidence.
@visuallatin9 жыл бұрын
Maxim Kretsch Agreed.
@giampierover78329 жыл бұрын
PRONUNCIA DELLA "C": 1) I toponimi sono assai conservativi e nei secoli oppongono una notevolissima resistenza al cambiamento. Nei toponimi non ci sono tracce della "C"dura: mai s'è detto AriKKia (Ariccia) o PlaKentia (Piacenza) o KirKeo (Circeo). 2) La prova a favore della “pronuncia restituta”: il Cicirro. Sua inconsistenza. Orazio (satira 1,5) scrive: 'Nunc mihi paucis, Sarmenti scurrae pugnam Messique Cicirri, Musa, velim memores et quo patre natus uterque contulerit litis.' Esichio (2, 481) dice che "cicirrus" significa "galletto". È chiaro che Orazio gioca con il lettore presentando questo "Messer Cicirro" come un galletto pronto alla lite. In genere i galli non fanno "ciciriccì" ma piuttosto "kikiriki", Per tanto il "cicirrus" di Orazio era in realtà pronunciato "kikirrus". Questa è la tesi pro "restituta". Il tutto appare completamente logico, se non fosse che i cicirri sono i ceci e non i galli. Una verruca grande come un cece era sul naso di un ascendente di Cicerone e da questa ha preso il nome la sua famiglia: CICERONIS avo verruca in naso fuerat, "CICERIS" grano simillima; ex ea verruca cognomen "CICERONIS" genti omni fuit. Esichio, che scrive in greco, questo non lo sa ed incorre in errore. Quindi niente galli, solo ceci. Non è una parola greca, è italica e tuttora esistente ed invariata (pronunciata con "C" dolce da sempre). Non una prova a favore della “restituta” ma prova contraria 3) Le traslitterazioni dal latino al greco (e viceversa) non hanno alcun valore di prova. Che i Greci trascrivessero con K il C latino si deve al non poter fare altrimenti; quale altro segno grafico avrebbero dovuto utilizzare? che i Latini trascrivessero con C il K greco, si deve invece al progressivo scomparire del K dal latino e al non poter usare il digrafema CH che, forse, indicava una C aspirata.
@felixiusbaqi9 жыл бұрын
Maxim Kretsch I had the same objection when I first started studying Latin. But one has to remember that pronunciation in any language varies drastically over time. The modern Romance languages evolved from the Latin in common use from the end of the Western Roman empire up into the Middle ages. There was nearly a millenium after Cicero and Caesar for the language to change. We can't assume that modern Romance language pronunciation mirrors the pronunciation of Agustus and Virgil any more than a hypothetical future offshoot of modern English would mirror the pronunciation of Chaucer. As for C originally being pronounced as K there is actually a plethora of evidence. For example: the transliterations for Caesarea in Hebrew, Arabic, and Greek all begin with a letter approximating a "K" sound. The German pronunciation of Caesar even to this day is "Kaiser". We even have inscrptions where letters usually spelled with a C such as "pace" are written as "pake".
@magend86589 жыл бұрын
Maxim Kretsch The same one (Voice Record) that told him "All Dinosaurs Jumped"!!! :)
@davidbrainerd15207 жыл бұрын
classical = academic
@Giorgosm140819487 жыл бұрын
CE, CI, GE, GI sounded hard in classical times all right, but SLIGHTLY palatalized, THIS IS A LINGUISTIC RULE. The process of full palatalization took some centuries to complete and become the church Latin of today.
@DansilSchroeder7 жыл бұрын
1:57 Ave, true to Caesar.
@NN-qv7if7 жыл бұрын
we used to pronounce principio with "tz" sound for c. Any other languages do that? Also cicero pronounced like tzitzero
@mirkosala9197 жыл бұрын
in Italy is like it's written so Cicero
@osmondgo83624 жыл бұрын
It's like Woody Harrelson but sober.
@peterutman97549 жыл бұрын
Which pronunciation do you use for your teaching videos? I am learning classical.
@visuallatin9 жыл бұрын
Joe Joe Hi Joe! There are two major pronunciations for Latin. I learned the restored Classical Latin in school. In the Classical pronunciation, Caelum (sky, heaven) is pronounced with the K sound. Later, I discovered the Ecclesiastical or Italian pronunciation. Here Caelum is pronounced Chaelum. I abandoned the restored Classical Latin for many reasons. I talk about all of them in my book, Via. You can find it here: www.dwanethomas.com/via/
@barbthornell47867 жыл бұрын
Would it be possible that "v" had a more slavic sound like "vwuh" than either v OR w?
@oliviacharlotte81854 жыл бұрын
Can anyone who speaks Latin or knows it in depth, please help me? I would LOVE to know what ‘See the good’ is in Latin, in the sense of a wise saying that people and all should ‘see the good’ in the good and bad! Thank you☺️☺️
@anubisu10248 жыл бұрын
Isn't R trill sound?
@rogeriochamorro11464 жыл бұрын
As a native speaker of a Romance Language, that pronunciation is far from the Latin sounds. It's so American.
@jamein71644 жыл бұрын
Wait I thought there was no j in the classical latin alphabet????
@anjdah11 жыл бұрын
Can I ask a question? Is the "E" not prenounced as the "E" in e.g. the word "VEIN"? and not as in the word "need"`?
@berzubirze5 жыл бұрын
Hmmm, were they pronouncing american R as you do? I was tought they were rolling
@andresmora51927 жыл бұрын
Latina, lingua antiqua roma est progenitor, ex linguis romanorum, lingua magis pulchra in mundo. !!!! ✋😁
@SDOV83 жыл бұрын
Nicely presented. Thank you.
@SloveintzWend11 жыл бұрын
It is, but since V was accepted in the alphabet U represents U.
@Aeux10 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clarification.
@utubetipico87359 жыл бұрын
please someone help me. do you pronounce latin E like an [ee] sound, or like and [u, in murder or burial] sound? PS: i am spanier
@liquidcancer45733 жыл бұрын
It's an e like in perro
@whitenightf39 жыл бұрын
Great what about the Latin they speak in courts. Years ago a Judge said this to the prosecutor in a case I was involved in. duos ictus in cerasis Ve victus "two bites of the cherry" Woe to the vanquished
@VxV6319 жыл бұрын
At this point Ecclesiastical latin and original latin is like the difference between American English and British English. Both are right at this point by right of time and distribution and accepted methods. It's good to know the origins of both tho.
@nonesuchone4 жыл бұрын
Most dinosaurs didn’t jump. Checkmate, professor-man.
@dejan72085 жыл бұрын
Can any one tell me the which pronunciation was first used like the oldest
@JamesMartinelli-jr9mh4 жыл бұрын
There was old Latin: Prisca Latina. Then there was 'Classical Latin'. Then there was Late Latin. When the faithful could finally speak freely it was the 4th century - Late Latin. This is 'ecclesiastical Latin'. It is not based on Italian. Rather Italian is so conservative in SOUNDS that both have the same sounds / of Late Latin. Words entered English from Latin over the centuries and changed in sounds exactly like 'native' words changed - mostly in the vowels. The 'Classical Pronunciation' is based on linguistical comparisons and educated guesses. It started in the 1800's among linguists. So, for English speakers there are 3 ways to pronounce Latin. Note that the ecclesiastical pronunciation is used in classical music as it is more mellifluous.
@delta781910 жыл бұрын
you are wrong with v... veni, vidi, vici. V is V not w.
@dimensioncx860710 жыл бұрын
That's something a lot of people pronounce incorrectly, it's actually with "W".
@Artecus10 жыл бұрын
Dimension is right. 'V' in Latin is 'u' or 'oo' sound, and, when it fronts a word, is a 'Ue' or 'w'. Example: Gvlgari = `Goolgaree'. Vngartium = [w]oon'gartioom.
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
None of you are exactly correct.. I'm Romanian in origin and I grew up there. I've studied Latin for five years in school and one in college. Romanian is also the closest modern widely spoken language to the classic and vulgar Latin in terms of grammar and pronunciation. It's actually both. In certain instances, like those mentioned by Arthur is 'u' or 'oo' and in others, like the one mentioned by Tekla, it's 'v'. So, you're all right, or none, or whatever. So, in this particular instance it would be, Veni (with a V), Vedi, Vici. Literally translated in Romanian it's: Venii, Vazui, Invinsei.
@Artecus10 жыл бұрын
Protector of the Republic Protector, isn't `Veni vidi vici' pronounced, in Classical Latin, `Weni widi wiki?'
@weedmastersr10 жыл бұрын
Arthur E. Michalak Actually, after writing that comment today I've looked through some of my old notebooks. The pronunciation we were taught in Romanian was actually closer to the way vulgar Latin was spoken. Anyway, we were taught two theories. One was that the correct pronunciation is in most cases as written, where the second "restaurationist" one (is there such a word in English?) said that researchers have been trying to come as close as possible to the way Romans used to use it (classic Latin) and v is indeed pronounce 'u', 'oo'. So is u (of course). So, you were actually right. Apologies!
@jakobpfeil42432 жыл бұрын
in caeser i think the r would be rolled with the tip of the tongue like italians do
@abelpalmer5523 жыл бұрын
Guys -especially all the italians and native romance speakers- chill the f out, it was a good lesson. We know he didn't really try to put on his best accent, you don't need to lambast him with pejorative comments about how English speakers just have absolutely obscene pronunciations of Latin, especially because he got the essential elements right.
@KingRobertIofScots6 жыл бұрын
I thought V sounded like a w, and it also is used as the vowel we know as u. There was no u originally. For example: Jvlivs Cæsar.