American speaks Latin with Italians at the Park! 🇮🇹 Will they understand?

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

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[@cheeveka3]

You should try to speak Latin to Romanians or Sardinian speakers one time 😁👀 be interesting to see that 😎

[@culturecanvas777]

If you try this using Attic Greek in Athens, are the languages similar enough that it becomes unchallenging? Edit: answered in the other thread. Thanks. 😊

[@imperitalica]

Thanks for the compliment 😊 Italians like me love the Latin 🇮🇹

[@caribbeanman3379]

Here's a thought: What if Romania, France, Spain, Italy and Portugal all started teaching Latin in their schools and made it a second official language for their countries; then they form some sort of trade or political union something akin to the EU and Latin would be the official language of the union used for all trade and diplomacy among the nations?

[@imperitalica]

@@caribbeanman3379 sarebbe fantastico/It will be fantastic!!!!

[@OverlySarcasticProductions]

It's so fun seeing the thought process on people's faces when they realize "why is this guys Italian so weird - wait what the hell is he speaking - OH okay this is Latin" -B

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Hahaha. Thanks for watching, Blue!

[@trungkiennguyen9193]

OMG OSP STOP HIJACKING MY ENTIRE KZbin FEED

[@MensHominis]

I know it’s a joke, but it's actually truer than one might expect: Italian dialects/languages can be so different and obscure (both in pronunciation/sound shift _and_ in parts of the vocabulary!) to speakers of other dialects that Italians could basically be tricked into believing that some made-up Romance sentences were from some random Italian dialect (this has been used for studies in psycholinguistics; of course here it wouldn’t happen, they recognize Latin from school). Or the other way round: an Italian colleague of mine from Taranto has told me that her father was once sent to talk to a ‘foreign’ trucker that had arrived at their company (her father was their language expert because he understands a bit of Spanish and like three words of English 😂). But it turned out that the guy was Italian, too: he was “from Noci, province of Bari” _(d’ Nauc’, provincia d’ Ber’)._ 😭😄

[@lionheart1234]

Wooo! Maybe a crossover in the future?

[@nostromo8491]

Just to add, but depending on the specific word, some words might vary very little from latin. In continental southern dialects for example, cherry usually stays something similar to "cerasa", in my own for example it's "cerase" (with the "e" making a specific sound). If I hadn't studied latin I would probably initially think that he was speaking in some dialect honestly! Great work to both of you by the way, from Italy!

[@CommonCommiestudios]

Everybody gangsta till the man starts speaking Proto-Indo-European

[@Risenoph]

Gawdawmn

[@demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326]

Can Greeks understand Proto Indo European?

[@CommonCommiestudios]

@@demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326 usually not, largely due to extensive phonological changes, including deletion of *w between vowels and in onset, debuccalization of *s to /h/, fronting of *u to /y/, devoicing of *bʰ *dʰ *ɡʰ to /pʰ tʰ kʰ/ and triple reflex of labialized velars *kʷ depending on the following vowel to /p, t, k/. The grammar, however, remained fairly similar to late PIE

[@povilzem]

I'm willing to be a Lithuanian would be able to hold a short conversation.

[@Correctrix]

@@demetriusstiakkogiannakes1326 No modern speaker could understand PIE. However, a few random words would come through. For example, ‘*wodr’ is one of the words for ‘water’!

[@sosxka]

As a native English speaker, I understood almost everything; I read the subtitles.

[@majimadavis3602]

😎

[@andyreznick]

That'll do it.

[@Ayy_Doll_Fiddler]

Ewwww... A subtitlist!

[@mycroftknight]

I'm not a native English speaker but I understood 😂😂😂

[@befreetv354]

L M A O

[@daviducockny]

I speak Portuguese and it’s amazing how you can feel the meaning of what is being said. It’s like recalling a language you never spoke.

[@celiazsan5448]

¡Qué bueno! Hablo español y me ha pasado lo mismo.

[@errrzarrr]

Spanish-speaker here. I feel the same. 😊

[@rafilosofo]

Eu não entendi nada kkk

[@amiesports]

its ur grand grand grandparents' genes

[@Meme-2038]

@@amiesportsactually it would be grand x45 parents

[@juanantonioescalante8627]

As an old Spaniard (72), I can say we had to study a lot of Latin language when I was a boy (10), for 7 years. So I could understand almost everything at first. It was curious and touching to me to listen to it after so many years! Thank you very much!

[@RomoloGessi31]

It's the same for me, I'm a 65 year old Italian

[@nicolozss]

We (in Italy) still study Latin in high school, even to this day, for 5 years. And, if you choose to go to go to certain high school (in Italian ''Liceo Classico''), you have to study also Ancient Greek. I think same happens in Spain, as you describe.

[@RomoloGessi31]

@@nicolozss You're too young to have it right away. My generation studied Latin from grade 2 to twelve 🤣

[@klamin_original]

I'm just 33 and studied Latin at school in Germany. I can understand what he says but I couldn't speak it as in I couldn't find the words and grammar quickly enough to have a conversation but I completely understand what he says so we could at least converse in two languages :D

[@RomoloGessi31]

@@klamin_original The same thing happens to me with German. I studied it in high school and still remember the syntax, grammar and pronunciation. When a German speaks to me slowly I understand what he says but if I have to speak I get confused and use the English glossary which contains many more Latin terms than German. The limits of Latin are given by the fact that, apart from Catholic priests, in modern schools, there was no conversation, relegating it to the role of a dead language.

[@winningtechnique1849]

The young couple just killed it. They understood everything.

[@giaume12]

@Edd Glassus how do you know?

[@nicolodesalvo3795]

@@giaume12 is probably because here in italy, the most part of high school teachs latin

[@itsmeandrea138]

@@nicolodesalvo3795 Only liceo scientifico and liceo classico students have Latin in their program. All other schools don't.

[@cresk1196]

@@itsmeandrea138 linguistic high schools study latin too

[@meekmeads]

He also switched to Ecclesiastical pronunciation.

[@drkrkt4927]

You are the kind of people we love to have in Italy, Man of culture, Smiley and easy going. Thank you for spending your time here with us!

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Molto gentile

[@almasy87-sayuri]

Sorry to intrude but you couldn't have said it better, really! :D

[@willmosse3684]

His surname is Ranieri - he is returning to the land of his forefathers!

[@setter000]

Well said.

[@ItalianOutdoor]

What does even mean ? Everyone is welcome in Italy. We don't classifie people, at least no more.

[@modalmixture]

I like how he is actually using a lot of direct language pedagogical techniques to help people understand what he is saying. Defining words, elaborating on the question, using gestures, but always staying in the target language. It’s very friendly and unintimidating and people seem to respond quite well to it.

[@SIC647]

I do absolutely not understand Latin or Italian (only Danish, English, German, mostly Swedish, Norwegian, and some Dutch). But his pedadogical way of gesturing and explaining, plus me drawing from the languages I do know, actually made it possible for me to understand bits of what he said.

[@siliniaTL]

Here in Italy we use gestures for everything we say ahahah

[@Islander2112]

Would the quacking be considered pedagogical? 😁

[@illiiilli24601]

@@Islander2112 yes.

[@theforeverpuddle8754]

@@siliniaTL 🤌🤌

[@Philobiblion]

The whole concept of inter-intelligibility between languages is fascinating,

[@Nico-iv3wr]

Yeah but in this case it's like a great-grandfather being summoned just to speak with his great-grandson

[@someguy2744]

​@@Nico-iv3wr Somebody better pull up on Luke with some Old English.

[@MrEgofreak]

The human brain's neural translation is something else! Something that (unfortunately) I feel we will never be able to recreate with online translators (though I may be taken for a fool yet!). I heard whispers that we're born with the ability to speak and understand every language, but we just lose it over time. Damn transitioning from our embriotic stem cells! LOL! (AKA Aging)

[@alexalfano2171]

Lucius, you should try this in Sardinia. The dialect on the island is the nearest thing to Latin

[@DP-vm2dd]

It's a language not a dialect!

[@Barfnuggets]

@@DP-vm2ddwhats the language?

[@DP-vm2dd]

@@Barfnuggets sardo

[@davide7933]

Dialetto*

[@DP-vm2dd]

@@davide7933 no è una lingua

[@evfnyemisx2121]

"Et quid est nomen canis" This is the kind of questions I want to be asked by an Italo-American speaking Latin in Rome

[@Teverell]

canis est Cerberus. (Cerberus est canis Romanus, in Pompeii habitābat, dominus ēum Lūcius Caecilius Iucundus erat). And wow that last was not conjugated properly, if I even got the right words at all! It's been a while!!)

[@kaiceecrane3884]

That one was interesting to me because of how clear it was as a native english speaker

[@DeadLightAdrift]

Quid canis agit?

[@Teverell]

@@DeadLightAdrift canis in mensam stat

[@tjovadevalivat]

@@Teverell should be ablative

[@bolinfan1519]

You speak Latin very clearly. Every syllable is understandable.

[@DMG380]

Probably not how Latin was actually spoken or you would not have so many Romance languages now.

[@seife41]

@@DMG380 he is fairly acurate actually, at least thats his goal

[@taoliu3949]

​@@DMG380 Classical Latin sounded out pretty much every syllables. Vulgar Latin started "dropping" syllables and evolved into modern Romance Languages.

[@rawkhawk414]

@@taoliu3949 I'm not a historian so apologies if my expansion comes with its own errors. But I think it's worth mentioning that "Classical Latin" in this context would mean something akin to "Received Pronunciation" in English. Or in other words 'educated and upper class Latin speakers' pronounced every syllable with regular rules. However much like English, Latin was the language of a governmental, mercantile, and cultural empire. So you've got people far away from each other who might only be half able to read or write along with changing trends in speech affecting the evolution of what would become modern Romance Languages. I add all this because the word Vulgar has a different common meaning nowadays beyond "the common people". Just repeating that you're essentially right but it's worth pointing out that "Vulgar Latin" is not bad Latin, it's just common Latin. So another way to think of it is like the difference between a local dialect and how you speak in school or for a presentation. Side note, there have been some interesting observations by linguists and videos done here on youtube about how words that mean "common" or "middle" tend to take on a meaning of "bad" over time.

[@maykolvarela]

Em português isso acontece também, vulgar se tornou uma palavra pejorativa. Não se usa mais para algo comum. Assim com a palavra ordinário.

[@FabrizioBianchi]

As a Roman, this made me cheer and smile more than I could ever think possible. If my smile gets any bigger I am gonna lose the top of my head.

[@ankokunokayoubi]

Does City of Rome have Latin course at schools?

[@ITALICVS]

@@ankokunokayoubi There are high schools that have Latin courses in Italy

[@AndrewEvenstar]

awesome

[@_Wai_Wai_]

Damn, you should see a doctor

[@Absolutely_puck_fakestine]

Ah ah , tu quoque, Fabrizio ?

[@simoneandreoni3300]

I am Italian, I studied Latin during my high school. I did love it! And my dearest friends as well...we tried to speak Latin most of time. It was a lot of fun. So now your video is making me mildly emotional. Bene fecisti, amice!

[@gennaroscalia8213]

As an italian that studied latin and ancient greek in highschool I find it so amazing and beautiful, thank you for this content

[@julestof]

Very interesting video. I am from Rome. I would like to add some useful information for non-Italian and non-Roman viewers. Parco di Tor Tre Teste is a public park in the suburbs of Rome, close to a working class neighborhood with the same name. The most part of the people being interviewed by Luke Ranieri state that they live in the next district. In Italy, Latin is still studied at high school, but not in all the types of secondary school. It is just studied in “Liceo Classico” and “Liceo Scientifico” the hardest and most prestigious branches of high schools, attended by 35% of the students primarily coming from well-off and educated families. I am specifying it just because, given the location and the way of speaking Italian of the people (with a very strong Roman accent), it seems very likely that the majority of the park-goers never studied Latin before. Since Luke’s experiment is twice interesting.

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Grazie, cercavo delle persone che appunto non avevano conoscenza del latino.

[@TheSadsham]

i know three heads tower. it's near broken tower

[@corinnejoness]

E anche al linguistico,i primi due anni

[@julestof]

@@corinnejoness grazie per la puntualizzazione :)

[@markmuller7962]

@@julestof "Puntualizzazione" è una parola interessante se ci pensi

[@Servius-Gallicus]

I did something similar at a central train station in Germany recently. Little did I know that I was speaking to a classical philology professor. The interaction was both hilarious as well as confusing for the both of us.

[@graf]

I ended up speaking to a couple in Sabadell who turned out to be Latin & Ancient Greek professors, though they didn't speak much unfortunately, more of the reading/writing kind :(

[@spoilercortespodcast]

@@graf Too bad they don't talk anymore fluently in ancient languages.

[@zytr0x108]

What language did you use? Middle High German?

[@The_Not_So_Great_Cornholio]

Oh what a gas. 🙄

[@Tigerfox_]

WHich train station and do you remember the professor's name?

[@faryafaraji]

This is really awesome; if we had more content like this, more people would be willing to learn Latin, or at least learn about Latin. When the gentleman picks up on cherries and pears and understands what they mean, or the "prefer" words, it's basically a practical demonstration of non-linguists still having an innate grasp of cognates and phonetic change over time. Once my Romanian friend and I tried doing this: we'd both speak in a sort of creole, where I'd speak in a half French half Occitan-ish made up speech on the spot, and he'd do the same with French and Romanian--basically speaking non-existent Romance languages being improvised on the spot, we kept the phonetics close enough to a typical Italian sound, similar to how you'd switch to Ecclesiastical at some points so the cognates would be clearer. We managed to spend the entire day conversing with no problem

[@ancientromewithamy]

Well said! I've had Spanish speaking friends say things like "I didn't know you knew Spanish!" but I was writing things in Latin. A Norwegian friend amuses me by the way she perceives German. It breaks my heart that so many people are afraid of language learning, though, so many myths about it are out there. That you can't learn past a certain age or whatever.

[@danielroy8232]

this is some advanced level nerd shit and I love it.

[@svetliodoychinov5580]

So true. I am a Bulgarian and have spoken with a Russian and Serbian each one of us speaking our own language + mixing what little we know of each others and had no issue communicating simple things. Love your music by the way.

[@DzikaPuszcza]

​@@danielroy8232 It sounds that way, but everyday people do it all the time. Slavs (Polish, Ukrainians, etc.) pick up each other's languages that way real quick...

[@Knotreally]

Haha, this is hilarious! :)

[@lucille.phoenix5504]

I’m so glad to have found you! Listening to you is a great help, as I teach myself Latin.🕊️🕊️🕊️

[@UmamiPapi]

0:37 Upon hearing Latin he felt fear and his first reaction was to fight you.

[@TL-Sneax]

lmao, made me LOL man!

[@Schnuckiputz685]

His ancestors must have been of a tribe that hated Rome 😂😂

[@andrewsabeni137]

LMAO HAHAHAHA

[@chiarar7321]

I think after hearing “salve” he was going to greet him raising his hand and then stopped.

[@macromagno8029]

That reaction is ‘cause Salve was very used at Mussolini’s era, so that turned into another fascist symbol

[@davideandreagorla2207]

it's legendary when the guy immediately gets "cerasa" (cherry), which is very different from "ciliegia", because "cerasa" is also how they call cherries in lots of southern dialects

[@ITALICVS]

Not only southerners but even northerners. In Milan it's similar.. "sciresa"

[@davideandreagorla2207]

@@ITALICVS effettivamente sì. io ho sempre "scirega" (sono milanese), ma penso che anche "sciresa" sia plausibile vista la somiglianza al francese "cerise". e anche lì la radice latina è sempre la stessa

[@petera618]

I was taught 'a cerasa by my Sicilian mother then I learned it's ciliege in Italian.

[@YouBlu]

a Roma moltissimi le chiamano ancora oggi così, cerase

[@petera618]

Nel dialetto siciliano ci sono tante parole che possono essere di tanti origini come arabo, spagnolo, e francese. Come l'uva, in siciliano si dice rascina viene dal francese "raisin". La mela si dice pumu, pomme in francese.

[@KertPerteson]

So good to see that actual italians can actually understand latin so well! I loved this video!

[@shellyharry8189]

I love how the faces of the Italian speakers lit up when they understood what you were asking ❤️

[@John-qd5of]

Mirabile auditu! Wonderful to hear! But I just used the second supine.

[@selmahare]

Lol Yes like some kind of genetic memory was hitting them. It is a beautiful language Latin, one they should be very proud of having given the world.

[@godofthisshit]

@@selmahare Eh, it's dead for a reason.

[@areaxisthegurkha]

​@@godofthisshityour grandma is dead for a reason

[@osmaniesquijarosa4308]

@@godofthisshit is really dead when it has a bunch of offshoots? That's like saying English is dead, because old English "died". Italian is basically modern "Latin".

[@xMinoYTx]

6:45. There's a colloquial verb "cicerare" which means to talk or to chat in Italian. Basically, what she said was "I chat sometimes".

[@Brandon55638]

That was so funny! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@hadhamalnam]

3:21 this guy was also hilarious, the way he listened intently to the dialogue just to say non te capisco at the end

[@easytos]

I think it probably also helps that you know Italian lol. Which let's you where they are at in the conversation when they respond. I can imagine dialogue is still possible, but it would just take a little longer I'd think if the person speaking Latin didn't know Italian. Thanks for the video, I love your stuff!

[@PASTRAMIKick]

I understood almost everything as a Spanish speaker, in both the Latin and Italian, in my experience some words that are nothing alike between Spanish and Italian, are usually similar to the French word.

[@موسى_7]

As an Iraqi, I struggle with Egyptian Arabic, which is still Arabic. Algerian Arabic? No Arab from the Middle East can understand that!

[@DonMrLenny]

@@موسى_7 there are tons of french words in algerian arabic

[@ericcarlson3746]

"sumus" much closer to somos than siamo... for example

[@DoomGoober]

As someone who studied French, some key words do sound very similar to French.

[@manfredneilmann4305]

@@ericcarlson3746 Exactly!

[@modmaker7617]

I'm a Slavic person watching a video about an Italic/Romance language using a Germanic language to understand.

[@Tonyx.yt.]

the majority of words in english came from french, latin and other neo latin languages, only like 1/3 is germanic

[@modmaker7617]

@@Tonyx.yt. English is still a Germanic language because the current percentage of the lexicon doesn't matter in language classification only the language's actual origin. English started as a Germanic Anglo-Saxon language that over time gained a lot of Romance vocabulary due to French rule.

[@rawkhawk414]

@@Tonyx.yt. Yes but most everyday speech is Germanic. You have to account for the fact that the other 2/3rds includes medical and scientific jargon, which is almost exclusively Latin and Greek--and that this pattern is shared by most European languages. I myself used mostly Germanic words here and could have used less Latin ones and still sounded normal. I have never studied German or Dutch or Swedish and can still find myself understanding chunks of what they say. German is the hardest to make intelligible without studying it because it's so....casey. English has lost almost all of that. Can make out some things in written Danish, but spoken it's pronounced so wildly. On the other hand, I'm fluent in French and even a stereotypical pop cultural French/Romance phrase like "Voulez-vous coucher avec moi ce soir?" is nonsensical unless you studied French or a Romance language or were taught its meaning.

[@valentino3191]

That is so wonderful. Rome lives forever in its People. Latin is not a dead language.

[@sos.gamers]

well its a dead languange, but since Italian, spanish, french, rumanian and portuguese come from latin thats why we are all latinos we can understand easly between us

[@Frastato]

Neo-latin...​@@sos.gamers

[@Clearskies3848]

⁠​⁠@@sos.gamersthat’s not true in the least bit. It’s not easy to understand what is being said going from Spanish to Italian or Italian to Portuguese

[@sos.gamers]

@@Clearskies3848 That depends, i talked to several italian friends and they can understand my Uruguayan Spanish really easy, maybe because Uruguay was populated with Italians and Spanish and we dont really have native-americans over here, they were all killed when europeans arrived. So Spanish from Uruguay has that italian accent, and i also can understand italians talking, the same goes for portuguese is way easier to understand than italian...

[@dragondx2]

as italian, never studied latin, i could understand almost everything (even if with subtitles i admit it's easier)

[@Hclody95]

have you tried to go to sardinia? it is told that the sardinian language is the closest language existing to latin, it has even kept some of the grammar. it might be interesting the comparation between latin and sardinian

[@riukrobu]

We'd love to have him!

[@riukrobu]

@Riccardo Pibiri In Casteddu, podit essi. Fadiddu bandai in Nùgoro a biri chi su Sardu est morrendusì. In prus: s'Italianu regionali sardu, fintzas su nostru de Casteddu, allogat meda costrutus de su sardu e duncas de su latinu etotu e assora no diat essi sa pròpriu cosa ca in sa penisula. Fradi miu, cun totu su coru: fortzis est genti arrimada cumment'e tui chi est cuncordendi su problema in primis. Tui, dda stimas, sa lingua tua, in primu logu?

[@Jormone]

@Riccardo Pibiri non è così tragica per come la descrivi, abbiamo ancora qualche speranza di farla rinascere come lingua. Per Luke gli consiglierei di andare in qualche paesino del nuorese, li il sardo è parlato attivamente anche dai bambini.

[@tardigrado_irriducibile]

Yes, it's true. For example, in sardinian "domu" means house and comes from the latin word "domus".

[@giuliab8484]

@Riccardo Pibiri Io sono straniera quindi non parlo il Sardo, ma a scuola i miei compangi parlavano in Sardo tra di loro e io non capivo niente

[@giulianorivieri2806]

My grandpa (Sardinia) used "UBE" for "Where" in his dialect. We say Domu for House. And many others sardinian-latin words. Hundreds...maybe thousand. Go to Sardinia.

[@STRANGERINMOSCOW1]

That's because Sardinian is one of the Romance languages, derived from Vulgar latin (not classical Latin).

[@ItalianByLatin]

One thing is certain: My Latin students understand and learn Italian easily! Thank you for this video👍🙂

[@matt04eldorado76]

You still have latin people born 2000 years ago by you in your class? Must be amazing, ask them if they want to join me on my reconquista of Gallia

[@ItalianByLatin]

@@matt04eldorado76 All students at our high school in Germany learn Latin as their first foreign language. They only learn English as a second foreign language. As a third foreign language, they have to choose between ancient Greek and French. They can voluntarily learn Italian as their fourth foreign language.

[@frexelsio6786]

@@ItalianByLatin your high school is very strange !

[@ItalianByLatin]

@@frexelsio6786 There are around 200 high schools of this type in Germany. We call these high schools "altsprachliches Gymnasium", which means "ancient language high school". Another term is "humanistisches Gymnasium”. 🙂

[@frexelsio6786]

@@ItalianByLatin ah ok I did't know that. That is fine, I understand German :)

[@JoeTi88]

As a Vietnamese French speaker, I couldn't understand anything without reading the subtitles. It does related a lot but sounds far more different. Thank you !

[@e.g.1651]

That's f****** awesome ! Language is really something else in its own world and time. Nice vid !

[@stefanosarr8467]

You should definitely try this experiment in Sardinia and see the reaction of locals speaking sardo. Pretty sure it's gonna be interesting as our language, as you might know already, is considered to be the most direct evolution from ancient Latin or even viceversa, as some recent theories are saying. Great video and congratulations for what you do! =)

[@CallistoPili]

absolutely a Must!, I bought the big "Pittau" dictionary Italia/Sardinian language and it is much clearer where the words came from.

[@andrewstephens8790]

great idea

[@Phantasos25]

Consider that we also kept the hard sounds of the consonants, like Chentu ( kentu) for one hundred, or Chelu ( Kelu) for the sky. But in my nuorese dialect we also have some sentences that are almost identical to Latin, like: "Ponemi tres panes in sa bertula" that in Latin is "Pone mihi tres panes in bertula" that means "Put me three breads in the saddlebag".

[@Schnuckiputz685]

I was gonna suggest this. I was first introduced to Sardinian through the song Fibai E Tessi by Randagiu Sardu 😎💪

[@algerr3952]

I had Latin in school for over 4 years. It‘s funny how, if he asked me, I could actually answer in Latin 😂 . I wonder what his reaction would be, if someone actually answered in Latin.

[@Nini-pw4uf]

When I was 15, we went to Italy, with my Latin class. With Latin (and French), we were able to communicate quite well. I have to say that it was easier than our trip in Germany, although at the time we had learned German for 5 years and Latin for only 2 (but we’re french).

[@markoz673bajen8]

Funny how I say C'EST Francais ! means Let's French ! Instead of it's french to moi professuer de français.

[@Pollicina_db]

In my opinion as someone whose mother language is slavic and second one is english I found it far easier to learn italian instead of german. I studied german for 12 years in school, I can understand it, but I absolutely can’t write it and I can barely speak it. I’ve been learning italian for a tear now and I can definetly see the difference between the two, italian is far easier to learn.

[@sid-alitelab8958]

c'est français means it's french@@markoz673bajen8

[@bazingaburg8264]

This is so good, love it! It highlights the hilarity of arguments like "how come there are still apes if that's where we come from?" Drawing static boxes around fluid processes leads to such arguments if people don't comprehend that's what they're doing.

[@donsena2013]

It's so wonderful hearing Latin properly pronounced -- much s it was spoken in the first century

[@ski2mi]

And you know that how?

[@donsena2013]

@@ski2mi From a formal study of classical Latin. After three years of such study at the high-school level, I was able to score 667 (from within 200-800) on the Latin College-Board achievement test (the CEEB), which was rated as particularly good

[@ski2mi]

@@donsena2013 Congratulations on learning how we think Latin might have been pronounced. That wasn't my question.

[@Jonassoe]

Imagine Jackson Crawford going around asking Danish/Swedish/Norwegian people what their names are in Old Norse haha It might go well if he tried it in Iceland.

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

I’m sure it would be spectacular

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

Danes/Swedes/Norwegians don't like talking to strangers and many of them just leave when they can't communicate so it wouldn't be a fun video.

[@MarkRosa]

@@robertoprestigiacomo253 The Icelanders would just listen and talk normally with no difficulties :)

[@joelthorstensson2772]

@@polyMATHY_Luke As a native swedish speaker, most of us would just look at him weird and go "Where the [expletive] did you learn swedish?!" Lol I can understand most basic sentences of old norse (weather, time of day, greetings and basic questions), but anything more complicated and it might as well be some norwegian gibberish!

[@indenturedLemon]

people would probably think he just being a drunk Danish lol

[@sjmarel]

I confirm. Spanish speaker here, and I had no trouble understanding the conversations while washing the dishes. Pretty amazing, though I have to say that the context helps a lot.

[@astrol4b]

Luke I'm so glad people like you exists, I'm Italian, and I purposely have chosen a liceo without latin when I was young, the reason being they tried to teach me in middle school but everything was an endless memorization of cases, and I've noticed that despite the hours and efforts even people that end the liceo classico don't speak Latin and Greek at all and they can't even translate from Italian to latin, they only learn written latin to Italian. I blame the obsolete method, there is no reason why people can speak English (sort of) at the end of high school but not latin even if they study it more.

[@ricplays5905]

i chose the liceo with latin and unfortunaly its a very obsolete method of teaching. i have a lot of issues with the latin subject and my grades are pretty low despite all the efforts i put in.

[@astrol4b]

@@ricplays5905 well my tip would be to use courses like assimil or the one Luke is promoting in the video alongside the standard homeworks, it's far less boring and in the long run far more effective, if you are from liceo classico Imagine having the second test from the graduating exam and finish it in a an hour without too much headaches.

[@tigergaminggr8079]

The exact same thing happens in Greece. When I finished school I could speak both English and German but I couldn't even write a sentence in ancient Greek because the teaching methods are so obsolete

[@elenacipollone3799]

assimil is great indeed. Different tools depending on starting languange to target one, yet always immersive method. Also, always funny, with jokes etc and some good insights on the culture. Anyway - and unfortunately - in italian high schools you don't need to speak in latin to get high grades, you need to translate, fullstop :-/ just keep studying the dull method, take it as a puzzle to solve, not to communicate.

[@astrol4b]

@@elenacipollone3799 the thing is, once you get natural with a language translating isn't a riddle anymore, it's just... Reading.

[@megapangolin1093]

Excellent and fascinating video, love the beauty of the Latin and the way you speak. Love the Italians, so bright, engaging and up for it.

[@johngreenstreet9347]

This was strangely interesting and informative, thank you. Italian people come across as very pleasant and sociable.

[@g.d.1800]

Hello from a Greek Aromanian speaker! I'm always fascinated by the similarities between Latin, this great historic language, and our little non-written, non-official, verbal language of the mountains and the countryside that came to life through it. I'd love to hear if you've ever been interested in our language, which unfortunately is rapidly dying, and if you possibly have tried to learn more about it. Keep up the great work!

[@testadelcomputer1839]

My granmother is aromanian from Albania, her language was mix between latin and italian

[@g.d.1800]

@@testadelcomputer1839 Well Italian comes from Latin. I'd say Aromanian is a mix of Latin and Greek.

[@PopescuSorin]

salutari din Romania!

[@stephanobarbosa5805]

você compreende romeno ?

[@draculakickyourass]

I don't think aromanian is dying. Maybe you should visit the Dobrogea region in Romania. There are more than 2 million aromanians there. Also many romanians speak it, because is basically a romanian dialect,easy to understand and speak.

[@Dante7Even]

Sono molto felice di vederti parlare in latino e in italiano in modo così naturale 👏🏻👏🏻

[@hizaleus]

I could understand that though I only know a smattering of latin or Italian. (I am an educated, native speaker of English with some ability in Spanish.) It all depends on the vocabulary required for the situation

[@guillermorivas7819]

Italian is very close to Latin when it comes to its vocabulary and pronunciation. This is the fundamental reason, I think, Italians can understand the gist of Latin. Aside from the fact that Italians learn Latin in high school. Spanish speakers may have a slightly harder time understanding Latin but it just depends on the context-- i.e., if the words/phrases used in Latin are very similar to Spanish. For example, for many Spanish speakers, they would have a slightly harder time understanding the following: Salve, ut facis hodie? Americanum sum. Mihi placet pira et mala. Bibo cervisia quoque. But... They would understand the following much better: Bonus dies, quomodo vales? Quid facis hodie? Ego Americanum sum. Mihi placet pira et ceresia. Bibo cervisiam quoque. Pone in mensam et sellas. Ponlo en la mesa y sillas.

[@diegone080]

Only in scientific and classic high school

[@CHRISPARKERXC]

is like Ancient Greek and greek, different languages

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

Not all Italians study Latin in school. As Diego mentioned, Latin is only studied in specific types of high schools belonging to a category called "liceo" (there are more than 2 types of liceo) but there they only study ecclesiastic Latin and they don't study it as a language: the point in those classes is more translating pieces of Latin literature. 99% of the students struggle a lot with Latin and virtually nobody learns anything more than a few words. I never studied Latin but I could follow all the dialogues in the video because they were simple dialogues and Luke spoke fairly slowly and I'm Sicilian and that helped because some bits are uncanched in my dialect.

[@animadverte]

It is not ecclesiastic latin, if it is directed to translate classic pieces of Latin literature. And usually students learn much more than a few words. way more than a few.

[@robertoprestigiacomo253]

@@animadverte It is ecclesiastic Latin because what they "translate" has been adapted through the centuries and sorry but no, people don't really learn much in high school unless they are really interested and make an extra effort. Those few who did learn something are exceptions (either they had very good and passionate teachers who deviated from the classical way of teaching Latin or they made an extra effort as students).

[@kamikazemelon787]

I really like this video - I like to scroll the comments and see what I can understand while listening which is very little but knowing a bit of Spanish, French, and Italian as well as the pre- and suffixes we often use in English helps a lot!!

[@chorabari]

So interesting! Watched this video around the time it first came out. I found it interesting that the Italians could understand the Latin, but I couldn't understand either. Rewatching it now after learning Italian for a few months, I can understand quite a bit of both!

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Well done!

[@matthiasdinkelbach1661]

This summer I spent a half term studying in Rome. I was going to Mass in Latin almost every day and I can say that it helped me understand the sense of what people were saying in Italian a fair amount, given that I don’t speak a lick of Italian 😅

[@VasileIuga]

I have some questions for you, Luke. 1. You think Latin can become the official EU language? 2. Is too complicated to be a practical language for a continental confederation? I put this questions because Latin is a neutral language and if all the people of Europe will learn it, the paper work nightmare will end without reigniting old feudes( well, maybe not with the Greeks). 3. Also, if is complicated for the job( only if that will be your opinion), can Latin be tweeked to be more versatile, as a romance language? I guess you can make a video about this subject if you see fit, about bringing back Latin from the dead. I do have the opinion that Latin never died, just evolved, but I don't have a better term for this kind of project. The only simmilar case I know(if I am correct) is the case of the Hebrew.

[@Stoirelius]

Of course it is too complicated to be a practical language for a continental confederation. Have you ever studied Latin?

[@maius1778]

Mmmh well there is interlingua...

[@peterfireflylund]

English has already won that competition… even BRICS+ use English ;)

[@MagnsATK98]

There shouldn't be one official EU language, but English is the language most people understand and most non natives are already taught in school. We Scandinavians are taught English in school and most people would not be fine with having to learn Latin in addition. Especially since it's a language with no native speakers and English is a better lingua franca globally.

[@francisdec1615]

It won't happen. And if you simplify the grammar you've kind of ruined the idea to begin with.

[@highgroundproductions8590]

This guy is brave and has no sense of awkwardness whatever. I admire that.

[@rubenlopezusa]

Sensational! They get a very close idea, enough to keep a certain level of basic conversation!! But even I, as a Spanish, Catalan, Portuguese speaking person can keep a basic level of conversation with an Italian. We share the same root language.

[@richardmori1389]

Absolutely awesome to hear this language come alive. Thank you!

[@Olly133mhz]

Capolavoro totale! Continua così Luke - è davvero fantastico vederti in Italia e fare questi video davvero meravigliosi. Se dovessi mai organizzare un incontro da qualche parte con un pubblico, faccelo sapere!

[@Adler2935]

I was in Sardinia (Cagliari / South Sardinia) a few weeks ago. The people there speak sardic language which is heavily influenced by Latin. Please go and try this experiment there.

[@aitokoojii1462]

When I was in Sardinia, I was greeted with buongiorno, or however it's spelled. I don't speak italian at all, so I can't really say if they talked in Sardinian or Italian, but it sounded like Italian to me.

[@Adler2935]

@@aitokoojii1462 it depends on where you've been. For example in Alghero they speak a Spanish dialect. But in Cagliari they speak for sure sardic language which you will hear all day

[@redivivo]

"salve" is actually a greeting in Italian, it means the same as it does in Latin and it's used in every region of Italy

[@aitokoojii1462]

@@Adler2935 I was in Cagliari for a day, and for almost a week in Seulo.

[@aitokoojii1462]

@@redivivo I don't remember hearing a single salve there, though.

[@dr.tomgio6694]

Lucio, I would love to see you come down to Magna Graecia - especially the Province of Lecce - and speak to the people of the five or six communities that still speak Griko Salentino. Pax et Bonum!

[@ugurcanuzun]

3:48 Ok, why did I just learn turkish for cherry comes from Latin? Ceras would be prounced as Keras in classical latin and would sound exactly like Turkish for cherry, Kiraz.

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Very cool

[@nikiTricoteuse]

This was really interesting. I would have LOVED to hear you talking to people from Sardinia who speak Logudorese dialect or, people from the Alto Adige Dolomite Mountains area who speak the Ladin language, both of which are supposed to be very close to Latin.

[@alicarbajobrisam2309]

Once again, I felt like I'm participating in this video as a native Spanish speaker and as someone who has studied Portuguese as well. I try to avoid reading subtitles and try to understand the whole conversation through my skills on the languages that I've already mentioned. It is really interesting and the thought of finding some random person trying to communicate with me in latin seems to be a fun experience.

[@mareka3740]

Che video interessante ! Sono polacco ma so parlare fluentemente l'italiano e ho anche studiato il francese e credo anch'io di essere in grado di capire il latino piu' o meno come gli italiani intervistati a Roma.

[@CiRi_Ola]

Sono di Roma... Non parliamo neanche Italiano.

[@frandan9346]

In effetti 🤣 leggendo alcuni commenti mi viene il dubbio che alcune persone abbiano scambiato il latino con i dialetti regionali

[@popipopi3126]

Vabbè se senti nomen ci arrivi che ti sta chiedendo il nome, se dice habitas lo capisci che ti sta chiedendo dove abiti

[@Lexforlife74]

parla per te

[@alessandropelizzoli6613]

Perché, tu sei certo che il mericano parli latino? Ha ripetuto tre domande che al biennio del liceo sanno tutti i ragazzini .... Incominci a analizzare approfonditamente un testo letterario estratto dalla Divina Commedia...poi vediamo lui cosa sa. E soprattutto vediamo se lo mettiamo a parlare con un italiano o un francese iper laureato in lingua e letteratura americana,...magari scopriremmo che manco sa la sua di lingua....

[@mattc9875]

@@alessandropelizzoli6613iperlaureato 😂 questo ragazzo sta semplicemente facendo un esperimento senza alcuna malizia dopo essersi studiato il latino per passione…vi mettete sempre a piangere per un czz…se foste onesti ammettereste che oggi giorno di Italiani che sanno il latino ce ne sono proprio pochi, e sul commento ironico riguardo l’Italiano c’è molta verità…

[@g.o.9072]

you are such a humble guy, so great guy, so friendly, and so intelligent... i love history also, also roman and greek, my wife is southitalian, pls continue with your nice content...

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Grazie

[@rodrigohag]

I'm impressed because I understood 95% of what was said in Latin. I thought Italian was closer to Latin but I was shocked when I saw that many words were more similar to Portuguese than Italian.

[@martinaa8356]

My Latin high school teacher told us that languages tend to change more the further you are from the source. And then she gave an example: formosa in Latin, bella in Italian, hermosa in Spanish, but now I checked with google translator for Portuguese and now I'm a bit lost because it gave me linda.

[@rodrigohag]

"Formosa", "Bela", "Linda" and "Bonita" are synonyms in Portuguese and we use all of them hahahah. Probably the same thing happens in other languages. In Italian they have "Formosa" and "Bella". In Spanish they have "Hermosa" and "Bonita". @@martinaa8356

[@bibbleislife2]

6:14 hearing the kids play hide and seek in the background made me happy, because it reminded me of when I played with my friends. (I’m italian btw so if I wrote something wrong it’s for that.)

[@simonwelser6973]

Have you ever considered coming to Switzerland (Grisons) talking to the local Romansh-speaking people in latin? Romansh has developed from latin but due to very remote and isolated valleys back in the day, it evolved very different than Italian. It’s kind of a latin-lombard mix.

[@f205v]

With a few German words thrown in the mix!

[@wyqtor]

He could also go to Val Gherdëina up in the Dolomites, where they speak Ladin.

[@AndreiLeskar]

If you can, you shoud do this experiment in Romania too, i think it will be interesting!

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Some day

[@jdnw85]

@@polyMATHY_Luke try in Spain, and compare Gallegos, Catalanes and Castellanos

[@Correctrix]

@@jdnw85 He’s done Spain.

[@7121976]

Me encanta tu canal de KZbin. Soy de Costa Rica, el Español es mi lengua materna. Al leer el latín se comprende fácilmente. Por contexto se saca lo que quiere decir.

[@Texasmount]

I just loved your video, because I speak portuguese and I could understand some things!!

[@Republic3D]

I love this video. And that many of them understand it very well!

[@claibornedavis]

This video… this channel… both so cool! Thanks for the great content and originality!

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

I’m really glad you like it!

[@_.angel.candy._]

I'm Italian and understanding those people speak is so fun Also those are simple sentences that use words that are really similar to Italian so they are understandable. Really fun video tho Latin is also taught in most high schools in Italy

[@mithrasenkidu9423]

I'm French and my name is Louis, just like this Italian man in the video whose name is Lugi. Here in France we have lots of medieval historical texts written in Latin that mention the French kings called Louis. "Ludovicus" is the form that appears in most of them. So basically you could call this guy "Ludovice" in vocative. ^^

[@Lisa-t1n7l]

This brought back my high school Latin . I understood him! I also speak some Spanish, which was a huge help. I'm not surprised that Italians could figure out what he was saying. But they wouldn't have been able to figure out a complicated conversation, other than a few words.

[@gabrieleaimo]

Hi Luke! I've been following your channel for a while now and I'm always fascinated by your videos. I'm Italian and I find easier to us to understand the ecclesiastical pronunciation since it's the one used in schools and in the Catholic world (and it sounds closer to italian). I noticed that in this video you switched sometimes from classical to ecclesiastical when you wanted to help people to better guess/understand your sentences. The first time I heard you speaking I didn't even know there was a classical pronunciation and I thought you were highly educated about grammar but the "typical American guy" screwing up "our" pronunciation. I quickly realised I was so wrong and I have to thank you since you tought me someting new.

[@highgroundproductions8590]

You are an icon. A legend. A character.

[@giannapple]

I SO wish l had you as my Latin teacher back in my Liceo’s years!!! l’m italian and what made me hate Latin (and generally any other foreign language) was the teaching method used in Italy; the only thing that is “teached” is the grammar, nothing else matters in the italian schools, at least up to high school level. Can you imagine that? 5 years of Liceo studying english grammar and almost no conversation training, almost no native speakers’ pronounciation examples (we got it by own initiative from songs, not from the school)… and that was (l believe it’s the same today) what we got. And now aplly the same method with Latin… 🤦🏼‍♂

[@zach_factor1683]

the fact that none of them seemed particularly surprised by how weird his "Italian" sounded, must mean they hear different varieties of the language quite often. it really goes to show just how diverse and how distinct the Italian dialects can be!!

[@bernardfinucane2061]

I took Latin in school and used a few words when I was a tourist in Italy. It works.

[@TheOttomila]

Try doing this in Nuoro, Sardinia. At the end of the day Sardinian is the most similar language to Latin

[@daless3526]

In line with your fruit question, "the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree". Nice to know there is still some Roman left in us Italians.

[@chrisnichols9014]

Roma Invicta!

[@haeleth7218]

Great video. I would love to see an Old Norse speaker go to Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Iceland or the Faroe Islands to see if the same is true.

[@yrua96]

Fascinating how in calabria dialect we call cherries “cerasi”

[@alexanotfromamazon]

Salve is still used in italy actually

[@gaiusmarius8628]

I'm Iaponus. Now i'm in Gallia and learning the language. The pronunciation and listening are too difficult for me. On the other hand, listening latin and italiano are easier ! And surprised Italian is so similar to French in written form! I love your video.

[@gillian67ec]

French is closer to Italian tha Spanish is actually. Not the pronounciation but the written form it is. My opinion, I know other people have a different one :-)

[@Ryuuuuuk]

I was in France in holiday this year and could get along reading the menus with my little knowledge of Italian ehehe

[@ausgepicht]

I don't speak Italian but I do speak Spanish. I listened to the first half without reading subtitles and I understood you. I rewatched it to see what the Italian was and was surprised to see how different the Italiant was for the most part. Since many Europeans are multi-lingual, that makes me wonder how many Italian you spoke to have experience with Spanish. I'd be curious to know how much Italians with zero Spanish skills understood you. You should do a video where you pre-emptively ask if they can also speak Spanish.

[@Glossologia]

Practically none of these people speak Spanish to be sure (speaking Spanish is not actually very common in Italy, especially not in a working class area like this). Overall Italian is a little bit closer to Latin than Spanish, though not by a lot.

[@Pollicina_db]

Penso che lo spagnolo ha molte parole che proviene dall’arabo, quindi per italiani è ancora un po’ difficile da capire tutto.

[@Phantasos25]

I've never studied Spanish,. I was able to understand the 85% of Spanish conversations during my trip there. For Italians Spanish is super easy to learn

[@Roarshark12]

This video made me so happy :) I love it when people are this enthusiastic :)

[@lydiafife8716]

I studied Latin in high school for 3 years and I could amazingly understand most of the Latin after all these years.

[@roycarpenter6380]

Many of my generation - I am 82 - learned Latin at Grammar Schools and it was a necessity for entry to some Oxbridge Colleges and medical schools. In my medical career Latin was still widely used up to my retirement. Interest esse hoc experimentum experiri in Anglia !

[@sharkie115]

It would be interesting to try the same thing in France, Spain and Portugal.

[@culturecanvas777]

I'm certain the French would understand nothing 😂 except the few who study Latin.

[@milfredcummings717]

@@culturecanvas777 Maybe they would understand if they speak Occitan. He should try it in the south of France.

[@Italianguy37]

The real question is did our ancient ancestors speak with their hands as much as modern Italians🤔 lol

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Given how Cicero was assassinated, I would say yes.

[@Italianguy37]

@@polyMATHY_Luke lol

[@culturecanvas777]

@@polyMATHY_Luke 🤣🤣🤣

[@culturecanvas777]

I think they did, because Ancient Rome emphasized oratory skills as part of their standard education. And they did not have phones or bullhorns. They had to use hand gestures to communicate.

[@DrWhom]

@@polyMATHY_Luke ...but the hands were cut off for something he had written. Did the mob believe him to be an ambidextrous writer?

[@HasufelyArod]

0:05 wow, smooth camera work and smooth transition. Good job, Luke.

[@doctorteethomega]

6:40 I practiced the pronunciation of the word "cotidiae" so many times after watching this. It's very tricky with my current natural accent, but I'm trying!

[@salt1956]

I studied Latin for three years at high school. I reached the point where I could read Latin with some confidence, but I didn't know anyone could speak it. Having sufficient vocabulary is usually the thing which holds you back from speaking the language. The presenter of this video has a broad vocabulary, although nobody can speak Latin back to him, so he isn't being tested. Salve magister!

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

Salvē! Ecce: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aajTiWx6icaXb8Usi=GAEl8cIlT6b14D9j

[@veefernaodias4134]

I started learning Latin after watching your videos, PolýMATHY is really one of the best channel ever tribune luke . 😊😊

[@felixcid3441]

I find it interesting that Latin doesn't seem to differenciate between two kinds of to be like Spanish does. 'Ubi sumus' would require the verb 'stare' in Spanish = *Ubi stamus. I thought all complexity in Spanish was inherited from Latin, while Spanish tending to simplification, but here it seems that Spanish developed on its own a more complex and abstract view of to be: ser = active aspect of being vs estar = passive aspect of being.

[@polyMATHY_Luke]

This is a characteristic unique to Spanish and Portuguese. It doesn’t exist in the other Romance languages

[@Philoglossos]

It's a myth that languages get less complex over time. Some things get simpler, others get more complex. :-)

[@Correctrix]

@@polyMATHY_Luke There is a little of it in French too. The modern copular verb is a blend of the mediaeval ‘estre’ and ‘ester’. You can see that the past participle ‘esté’ (now ‘été’) and the imperfect ‘estais’ etc. (now ‘étais’ etc.) are from the latter verb. In Italian just as in Spanish, you have to use ‘stare’ for the continuous tenses and to ask how someone is (as ‘Come sei?’ would ask what they are like). And as in French, ‘stare’ supplies ‘stato’ as a p.p. for ‘essere’. Let’s also not forget Catalan. It derives from Old Occitan, so it used to use ‘estar’ in a very limited way much like French, but it’s now heavily Hispanicised and so ‘estar’ is now used for continuous tenses, sometimes location, etc.

[@Correctrix]

Spanish has actually produced some complexity. Latin had no future subjunctive for example, but Spanish developed one from the Latin imperfect subjunctive, forming two new imperfect subjunctives from the Latin pluperfect subjunctive and pluperfect indicative. The Romance languages also all have a new future formed from the present of ‘habeō’, and a conditional (which Latin lacked, making do with the subjunctive) from the imperfect indicative of ‘habeō’. The Romance languages have also formed a past anterior which expresses a very fine nuance between the simple past and the pluperfect, e.g. ‘en cuanto hubo llegado’. In pronouns, the Romance languages have developed stressed and unstressed forms (e.g. ‘te’ versus ‘ti’) which don’t quite correspond to case distinctions, and Spanish in particular has developed more gendered pronouns than Latin, with ‘nosotros’ and ‘vosotros’. All Romance languages have also developed levels of formality in the second person, either by using the plural (e.g. ‘vos’) or by shifting to a grammatically third-person pronoun (e.g. ‘usted’). All Romance languages have developed articles, often combining with prepositions or with their nouns in complex ways.

[@angelavonhalle5144]

Language evolution, complexity or simplification I recently saw a video saying how the french contribution to english was partially built on by english but french-sounding neologisms. Intellectuals using french sounding words, which were actually invented following gramamtical rules. And some of these were then introduced into french. As for SER and ESTAR that's a stumbling block even for native school children, who use them correctly, but get stumped in school.

[@fuguee_aoe]

To be fair if you spoke "high" latin in some backwater village back in 200 AD you'd get much the same results. We've got some inscriptions of "vulgar" latin and they are surprisingly quite understandable and much closer to how we structure sentences nowadays

[@terryrogers6232]

Amazing. Had a friend, my boss, go off to Italy one time speaking Spanish. He got along fairly well. I was a bit shocked not only that Latin would pass with Italians but that I could understand half of it (not looking) though my last Latin instruction was 65 years ago. I did live in Syracuse...(New York :-) ) and when very young live in an Italian neighborhood.

[@thesushifiend]

I had a classical education in the UK which included some basic study of latin for a couple of years. As an adult I’ve spent some time learning German, Danish, French and Spanish and it’s surprising how much of what you were saying in Latin I could understand. I even impressed myself!! 😂