LattePanda Alpha External GPU Nvidia GT1030 - eGPU Test

[@samsoulee]

Holy crap !!!!! that's awesome, would love to see a GTX 1050ti on that hardware

[@michaeloconnor9739]

1050ti? Naw, do a 2080ti. I don't care if it bottelnecks. This is for science!

[@BoredomFX]

up for 1050ti, will be waiting

[@rkan2]

The CPU is like equal to a Q9650... It should work nicely with even a RTX2080, while it will obviously bottleneck on most games...

[@alexa.davronov1537]

Doesn't make sense the bottleneck will eat the whole capacity. It's too slow for modern graphics to exchange data through such a tiny interface. It's ridiculous.

[@stefan-x9g]

bottleneck

[@glenwaldrop8166]

We were actually talking about something similar *last week* and how everyone else that has tested something similar used a 1080 Ti and showed *massive* performance drops. Thank you for a practical, real world test. Actually forwarded this to my buddy.

[@MrReddragongamingHD]

Did not expect the CPU to be that capable, I'm seriously impressed. It would be great if a tiny case was made for this which could accommodate a small GPU like the 1030. It's crazy to think you could have a PC capable of playing Doom, Overwatch and GTA 5 at 60 FPS in a form factor smaller than a brick. Some serious potential here!

[@rkan2]

RedDragonGamingHD The CPU is equal to a Q9650... It is already two years old too. It can do plenty, while also being plenty expensive... If you look at the newer Atom C3000 cpus meant mostly for servers you can get stuff that is equal to a i5-2500 (which still games plenty fine) but draw 1/5 of the power!

[@tamastenhaaff2291]

If you would mount the videocard horizontaly and use an external psu the case could be less than a liter think about that😂

[@williamrutter3619]

I love the form factor, these small boards are the future, pretty bad ass putting graphics card on, I'm impressed, keep up the good work.

[@classicgmr]

That's the #1 reason things like this get tried - because you can. :) Doesn't have to make sense.

[@camelazo]

Sure, it cost 350 usd plus the graphic card .....Doesn`t make sense to me!!

[@dedskin1]

you tube video rarly have sense , and some times are just wrong

[@gopronomad4381]

makes sense to me... and im not a genius

[@simonecastello991]

I want the same thing with a GTX 2080ti. It'd look like a gpu with a card on it instead of a mini-pc with a big gpu on it.

[@TheRogueBro]

I'm glad you did this! Literally the first thing i thought of when I first saw the M.2 slots lol

[@xMunkyChunk]

I had the exact same idea as you when I first saw the Latte panda. Love the way you think!

[@danielcortez1748]

bruh ofc my favorite channel has this build already , thought I was on the verge of a break through

[@Moronicsmurf]

I really like these type of tests.. objective, no bullshit.. "yeah its hardware limited, it works, what is the best we can get out of it."

[@havoc010101]

ET Prime , the was a great video. I like how you get great performance out of the single processors boards couple with a low end GPU. Can't wait to see the other performance videos with higher performance Gpus. Keep the content coming!

[@JeremyBennett6232]

How awesome would it be if they built one with a Ryzen APU

[@NonsensicalSpudz]

RyzenPanda

[@luisfelipegonzalez4423]

Actually there is one...udoo Volt

[@miigs9499]

@@luisfelipegonzalez4423 Bolt*

[@bhirawamaylana466]

@@luisfelipegonzalez4423 there one with Ryzen ? Now I'm more interesting with the Ryzen one.

[@SCP-POOL]

@@bhirawamaylana466 yup, Udoo Bolt uses AMD Ryzen with integrated Vega graphics. You can do serious gaming on that beast & it too is an SBC.

[@sackchief]

Imagine putting this thing into an arcade cabinet.

[@ottosantiagolassus]

,in other words LIFE♥

[@CaptainBBS]

@Big Poppa Burgundy true but tiny small form factor tabletop would love this

[@cosmicbutthairs]

Would be sweet in a 1up cabinet

[@merlingallagher4484]

A j5005 or j4105 mini itx is cheaper and faster and has a full pcie slot

[@CaptainBBS]

Oke but the latte panda pcb is zoo cute That's why my arcade pc needs to be this

[@kharilester]

Thank you for doing this! This video is sure to spawn many projects.

[@bunneza]

I love the frakenstain feeling when seeing this beauty

[@kindbud]

This setup with a Pico PSU could be one of the best compact/budget builds I’ve seen in a very long time without compromising a lot!

[@rb26_10]

I just can't believe.This little thing performing this good

[@TheRedmarlboroman]

The video I have been waiting for. Great job. Can’t wait for you to test a better gpu. This latte panda must be good for its form factor or else it wouldn’t be sold out already in dfrobot.

[@Cyberdyne_research]

if they continue to use M.2 and nvme on SBC they have a mad future in emulation. in 4 or 5 years it could be possible to tie a gtx1080 and a 1tb nvme to a SBC and build a emulation powerhouse, and by then well have 360, ps4, and switch emulators. imagine every decent game in history on one box the size of a lunchbox. im super excited. as always love your work man. loving batocera btw

[@wolfsweater1]

This where the Hades Canyon starts to make sense. Neat that it can be done though with the Alpha.

[@MrNBondy]

Man, this is wicked. If it wasn't so expensive I would jump all over this!

[@matheustoledo948]

Why do u make me want to but this more and more? This is Very Very sick, love it, its Small, usual, a Lot of things to do, not just for gaming, but home Office for example, draw Studio, animakers and Lot more, Just amazing

[@bvs1q]

oh my god thats incredible, also could you try using a flex pci-e adapter/ cable? so you could get the card parralel to the main board or off to the side so you could consider/ experiment with form factor for a single 'system' and itd be cool if you could get a small form factor/ small server or an open frame industrial/ medical style psu for it, and eitherway try to get it in a smallest (by total dimension or by single greatest dimension) possible enclosure, with either a decent power brick since it should all run on 12 (?) or an open frame psu along with the boards in a single build (though i guess it would add cost and unnecesary size increase to a unit if the power supply could just be a brick thats hidden on the floor behind some furniture) still super cool, thanks for showing this!

[@purkie103]

Depending on how much of a bottle neck it causes I'd be interested on seeing emulation performance with a 1030 or 1050ti as it could be the kind of thing where you could build a really tiny emulation PC (way smaller than itx) which you could stick in a backpack which is more powerful than single boards but more compact than an itx pc.

[@CheffBryan]

Especially the half height 1050 Ti. If I didn't have money dedicated to my own builds, I'd be tempted to solder a PCIe cable extension onto the M.2 adapter and lay that video card down nearly on top of the SBC.

[@purkie103]

@@CheffBryan instead of soldering you might be able to get a m.2 to pcie x4 or x16 riser cable then have a small bracket which would hold them next to eacher

[@IncredibleMeep]

Thats exactly what I've been looking for

[@glenwaldrop8166]

Depends on what you're emulating. Honestly everything below a PS2, N64, Wii, Gamecube, Saturn, PS1, SNES, Genesis, will run perfectly on this. The PS2... probably not. My Skylake 2.8GHz i5 has trouble with it. All of the rest of them should run flawlessly though.

[@purkie103]

@@glenwaldrop8166 I'm thinking more like cemu and citra and also other PC game performance. Where the bottleneck is going to be the CPU

[@gvii]

That is pretty darn cool. Kinda gives you inspiration for some really interesting and maybe a little goofy builds. Just because you can. :-)

[@TheNZJester]

If you brought one of those PCI-E x 16 extender ribbon cables you could turn the graphics card sideways and create a system that would fit in a more compact space. They have some with a lock for the Graphis card on the socket it plugs into and you could secure the other end with some hotmelt glue.

[@chucktaylorii]

This would be an interesting way to make a small form factor PC, not much bigger than a GPU... NUC homebrew??? Maybe not but a boy can dream. 😉 "Because I can" that is a tinker attitude, and I love it! Keep on tinkering, not enough of us in the world.

[@setyembong8597]

The first lattepanda alpha egpu I ever seen👍👌👍👌👍👌

[@eiszapfenderwutendenwinde3233]

Good work, very interesting. Waiting for more quality content.

[@ShannonPope84]

The lattepanda seems like a beast for the size.

[@TheDrunkenBeard]

I could see using a PCI-E 4x extension cable, fabricating a case so the GPU can lay on its side. You could also upgrade to a GTX 1050 using just PCI power as well to get a bit more umph while keeping it all internal using an upgraded 100w USB C power supply. Could be a damn good E-Sports gaming box or even media player.

[@soulogy]

literally got the notification just now, already 100+ views lol. Edit: its cool to see what this thing is capable of with an external gpu, would be amazing as a portable mini emulation/gaming pc if you could get it all cooled powered and inside a small form factor pc case.

[@NIVO1972]

I've got a 1050 low profile that would be ideal for this as well(also a Zotac hehe). A pico psu would be ideal, but not ideal in cost. Even some acrylic with threaded bolts could give it a semi open case look as well. I do have some smoked plexi left over from a bartop build so that would be even better. This is a great idea for a portable build for sure. Thx ETA.

[@tmangaming91]

I love stuff like this, had to subscribe

[@RedMageGaming]

Nice, I think the Latte Panda alpha needs a different cpu cooler though... or at least one that vents away from the board, and not over the USB ports.

[@StaticVapour590]

That's how you do it. Just AWESOME! I want one so bad

[@Isaac_Diggs]

Awesome Video , I was waiting for this. Would love to see your power source solution

[@DJDa9L]

I actually think this could be a fun project to build into a flat screen monitor. So that you can have a easy to carry lan party computer .. I know its not super fast at gaming, but when i go to lan parties at my age (30) you don't need the best of the best any longer. Its actually more important to be practical.

[@spkt0r]

@ETA Pirme, thank you for this vid, I have been trying something similar with a Intel Nuc, with no success. My main reason is incompatible M.2 to PcieX4 adapter's I will try the one you are using since its cheap.

[@PaulMansfield]

Many Intel NUC minipcie slots are for Wi-Fi adaptors. You might get lucky with a nuc that can take a nvme ssd, and replace the sdd with a SATA device.. but then you probably have a NUC with thunderbolt so used that instead.

[@40L900L]

BRO!!! GREAT CONTENT!!! You just blew my mind, I was looking for a small solution for my home workstation. Currently, I have Desktop with ASUS GTX 1060 3gb. (POSTED for sale) and with the difference, I was planning to get HP Omen, but LattePanda is de wae! Just possibilities are inspiring! PS. GREETINGS FROM NYC!

[@1nZaneR]

not bad! it would be great to have everything incl the external cpu + psu in a slim slow profile case so you can mount it on the back of a screen to have a all-in-one system.

[@totalrandomtechnolog]

Oh, please do a video with that GTX1060, that's the exact same model i have on my i5 750. I would love to see that single board computer stacks against my old i5 :)

[@KomradeMikhail]

Did you actually try it first without the external power supply ?... The 1030 is famous for running on slots with low power spec. It only draws 30watts max, which is supposedly within limits of the riser.

[@montykemp4057]

The lattepanda PSU would not have enough juice to power it. Especially with the TDP turned up. At 20v and 2.25A there would be 45 watts max total. It might just work barely work though.

[@mchammer907]

Holy crap this video is vary impressive it dose better then my gt710 and icore 3 with 4 gigs of ram just subed

[@FVBmovies]

Makes me smile. Thanks!

[@bactanite]

If there were small, attractive computer cases for these single board computers, this gear would make a great htpc. Most games could be played on low settings as well.

[@TigerClaw305]

This could be useful for those that built MAME Arcade Cabinets. You would need a good enough CPU and GPU to run some of those Arcade games that are more demanding.

[@RetroAdventure]

That is crazy cool, I would love to see a laptop gpu hooked up to this...

[@gaby1491]

i would be very interested to see the numbers if you used a 1050 ti. Also great video, I'm now subscribed to your channel.

[@ZalkDrives]

Wow, it would be awesome if somebody would make a tiny little portable gaming pc with this.

[@ParaLux89]

What is the total power consumption of this build under load?

[@darshan5726]

15 w + 40w to 50w

[@Andrew-pm7kj]

@@darshan5726 GT1030 actually only uses 30w at max.

[@Deffcolony]

10:07 omg lol that white car tho

[@jameslewis2635]

I wouldn't expect to see much better performance on this kind of rig than what the GT1030 is capable of due to the PCIE 4x issue. If you could change the adaptor or add another adaptor to move it from PCIE 3 4x to PCIE 2 8x you would likely get better performance using older generation cards.

[@Kris-jk9mq]

I've ran a 1080 on a x1 riser with only 20% loss in benchmarks

[@markhaus]

Would love to see a vid that investigates at what level of GPU that gets paired with it do you see the CPU bottlenecking the GPU. Also at this rate, it seems like when 7/10nm parts come out we might just get a gaming capable SBC if you pair it with an external GPU.

[@hidde663]

subscribed cuz i wanna see the 1050ti/1060 6GB results, 1030gddr5 is so far quite impressive. tho an RX 550 would have done better, especially in vulkan titles

[@Xeno_Bardock]

The problem is LattePanda Alpha costs $400 when it should cost less than $100. You can build a decent gaming PC with $400.

[@Dweller12Videos]

The m3-7y30 alone is supposedly $281, although it's a couple years old now. Even assuming Intel is selling them for half the original price, there's no way this would be under $100.

[@CrazyBlueTv]

You can buy Tablets with this Chip for 400-500€ or less and that include much more

[@mickgrimes9078]

i was super exciting when seeing this, went to go look at buying one.. and womp womp.. ill buy a nuc for that price holy crap. this with the newer ARM chips will be cool tho >_>

[@seaofrage]

Aw wtf. I saw some lattepanda thing on amazon that was 150 bucks. I guess it was some lower end one.. for 150 it would be tempting to be honest. Easy to make a small form pc out of that. But oh well.

[@malvage0]

I wonder if there's any way to make this little beast into a DIY laptop or tablet

[@Elinzar]

with a pci-e flexible extension, a good battery, a 3D printer and some barebones screen with an hdmi input and , it may work fine for a laptop

[@harryouil]

r/cyberdeck

[@Goguetaxl]

nice cant wait for the emulators. I want to see how it handles the ps1 and ps2 emultator.

[@jonesbecker3238]

I bet it will run great

[@yousefaljubaili7800]

loved it man . i just has to say

[@kitman566]

Okay, this is just a suggestion... you should try to test the LattePanda Alpha by getting a lower-end GPU. This one is a GeForce 9500 GT EVGA video card. I have in my HP Compaq dc5800 Microtower, usually my experience without this card would be bad, but it made a whole big difference in my gaming experience. Again, just a suggestion.

[@s26me]

with a ribbon cable maybe (and a pico power supply) this setup could definitely became the smallest gaming-capable computer

[@ROH101]

Even it performing better than it's priced game

[@nscantling]

Would love to see one of these boards with a Ryzen 2200U for a chip. It's a 12Watt chip instead of a 4.5Watt chip, but it has around 40% better performance in cpu and loads more GPU grunt.

[@dark_sxoul9882]

The Temps are amazing

[@TeslaMaxwell]

this is awesome man and I dont think you would be able to saturate more pcie bandwidth with that cpu.

[@luciferslettuce]

Life is good for ETA. You have a job/hobby get to enjoy all kinds of tech and write it off during tax time because it was for the business. Almost makes me want to start some kind of tech channel...who am I kidding that's work! Lol

[@GaudyMarko]

technically that's an internal GPU, since external gpus refer to stuff like the Razer core which connects via thunderbolt as apposed to PCIe and you are still mounted to the main board.

[@jasonbarry3216]

GaudyMarrko looks external to me! LOL They make those egpu’s that connect to a laptop with a MPCI connection also.

[@zombee38]

ETA is my favorite mad scientist ever !

[@BrainSlugs83]

PCIE 4X is fine for most gaming. Unless you're doing multiple cards in SLI or doing something crazy, you're never going to hit full saturation on a gen 3 PCIE x16 slot.

[@silvanpaul2531]

This would be a perfect budget steambox

[@Thought_Police]

subb'd loving your vids, just got a B+ recently and you've helped a lot, so thanks

[@DoRC]

Very cool but that price is a big ask. Im sure there are some uses cases for such a powerful pc with gpio capability etc but i cant think of any.

[@stevey500]

This thing would make for a great NAS build. Raid controller through the m.2 riser.

[@Kris-jk9mq]

I used a Rock64 and an 8tb USB drive with offsite offloading for critical data. $30 NAS that runs on 1.2 watts :)

[@stevey500]

What software are you running for your 1.2w nas? The advantage of using the LattePanda Alpha is ability to run lightweight VM's, video encoding watch folder, etc.

[@Kris-jk9mq]

stevey500 I'm using Open Media Vault v4 Stretch build for the rock64. Getting up to 112 MB peak SMB file transfers 100 MB avg. It's also running DLNA addon and was thinking of using Plex addon down the road.

[@GhostPrivacy]

You totally have to try two gpus and try mining something with ccminer or something. It would be really interesting. Do it! Get them views!

[@alexa.davronov1537]

Considering how short the PCIe interface on this board is I think it as slow as computer is itself generally ...

[@RuffPlay]

It'd be neat to add a pcie extension cable and fixate on a monitor.

[@joewilliams3352]

I would be interested in seeing a scenario with a higher end GPU at a resolution that is GPU bound.

[@Kris-jk9mq]

I've ran an EVGA 1080 SC and a 1070 FTW on pci 1x risers before. About 20% loss in 3D benchmarks but played movies and games fine.

[@metalslug26]

Im thinking potential bottleneck from a 1050 or 1060 GPU due to the PCIE slot limitation but test away. Next you should make a 3D printed case for it.

[@AJRestoration]

Time for custom low profile CPU cooling...

[@fuckshit7008]

Nice.. Amazing find

[@thanhavictus]

And can you leverage the EXPLOMOS for a laptop that happens to have an m.2 pcie-enabled slot for it's wifi card? Cuz that would be great for converting old pre-TB laptops too.

[@dabutler44]

Loving this

[@origionalwinja]

this is a cool video. thanks for sharing

[@ccricers]

Really one one to try with a Quadro P620. It has 512 Cuda cores so it's between a 1030 and 1050. And still single slot.

[@charliebrownau]

Gday. Can you please test an PCI-E HDMI capture card on the little SOC board this might make a great dedicated HDMI capture box to host OBS and connect an USB2 Audio interface for XLR MIC

[@gvi341984]

Handles itself like the 2200u in laptops in a very funny configuration

[@DavidMG99]

Perfect! 👍👍👍👍

[@xaytana]

If you can find a way to do it, I'd be interested in seeing gpu performance with the extra 2 lanes from the other m.2 slot. It'd give you 150% of what your current bandwidth is, and could make gaming even better. The m3 chip is also supposed to have a total of 10 lanes, I wonder where the other 4 are going to. I have suspicions that 2 are going to the arduino side of the board, and if they are, I wonder if you could tap those lanes for extra gpu bandwidth, since they'd be unused for gaming purposes. I'm also kinda disappointed the m3 only has 10 lanes instead of the typical 16. Also kind of surprised there's no chipset to provide expandability, including additional pcie lanes, since that's also fairly standard for processors outside of SoCs. For gaming and basic computer uses, I don't see the point of this and other boards like the UDOO Bolt. At the cost of the board, gpu, case, peripherals and other needed accessories; a laptop is cheaper, more powerful, and more bang for your buck, even some mini PCs are the same way. I know some of these boards, like this one, have uses outside of general PC use, like the arduino capabilities of this board, but even then, what's the best use-case for this product where it needs a PC and arduino on one board?

[@xaytana]

The two 1030 cards are the only GT cards and the only cards to use 4x, every other 10 series card is GTX and supports 16 lanes. Other cards should be tested, and upper end cards should see bandwidth bottlenecking. GT cards, and products that use them, are typically marketed as multimedia products, not gaming products. Any GTX card, which are marketed for gaming, needs the bandwidth; and if I recall correctly, do not officially support anything less than 8x outside of eGPU setups. Once Intel starts supporting the 4.0 spec, this would be less of an issue, as 4.0 essentially doubles what 3.0 provides, making any x4 slot and eGPU have the capability of having desktop-like bandwidth. Also, PCIe 1.1 is severely outdated, and only has slightly under a third of the transfer rate of 3.0, any testing you've done is fundamentally flawed, and you most likely have a CPU bottleneck with a system that old; try running some games that are actually graphically intensive, like most modern games.

[@杨俊秋]

I add a gtx1050 to hp 800 g1 DeskMini with a m.2 M-key to pci-e x16 adapter ,it ONLY lost 5% performence,and can perfectly run most games ,but the power supply is too big to carry around...so buy an itx-case computer if U want take it to anywhere...

[@NOOBGAMER-fq2ln]

Future 😍😍😍

[@ROH101]

GTA 5 on it. Mind blowing... Really impressed with this.

[@tadmikowsky7520]

Nothing noteworthy from me - just wanted to chime in :: This is eff'ing awesome! :D

[@sicariodesviado678]

Also a Zotac GeForce GTX 1070 mini would pair with this size form factor perfectly.

[@TobyIKanoby]

Because you can, ok, but for me it is just interesting what can be done with simple stuff like this, it is where you can really see progress and the future. High end is interesting but how many years ago would this have been high end stuff in a big case?

[@MirelRC]

Put some settings a bit higher to increase a bit gpu usage, to try to make equal to cpu usage or pretty same usage to have a smooth experience, in gta 5, and if that doesn't work, reduce a bit from population density and distance scaling.

[@NateMac000]

I'm using the Gigbyte 1080 Thunderbolt 3 External GPU Box with my Mac Pro, I wonder if you could go M.2 to Thunderbolt 3 Adapter. That would keep your GPU and PSU all in one box.

[@ETAPRIME]

I’ve been looking into buying the Akitoi mode or the Sonnet eGFX box but I’m really hesitant on forking out $200 on a gpu enclosure.

[@NateMac000]

ETA PRIME I had that originally with a 980ti, but I wanted the psu built into the box. PM me I have the other enclosure sitting around being a paper weight.

[@PPekka]

Hello. I have watched your videos and because of these I wan´t to add a gpu to my old Small Form Factor Acer Veriton L670G. It has an Mini PCI-E slot and I could use it to connect a gpu, but I don´t want to use additional power supply. Could use please test with one of your mini PC:s that will the 1030 work without additional power to the riser? Or does the riser need the power to work? I am thinking of using GT 730 2G (23W) or 1030 2GDDR4 (20W) if they will work without additional power.

[@Uhfgood]

Could you do a small video on 4k video performance on the latte panda alpha?

[@AlphaFox78]

Wow, really cool how you can use an adapter to the M2 slot to create a PCIe connector!! the 4x connection should be plenty, what gen is it?

[@timothyking5060]

I definitely want to see you use the 1050TI