Laurie Shaver's Daughter Admits to Fatally Shooting Her Dad

[@CourtTV]

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[@daletreadway8408]

What mother sends her daughter to school after she shot her dad?! Like what? Im not buying it.

[@lanielouwraps]

Me either! Terrible for the mother to put this on her. Any normal mother would protect their child even if the child did it!!!

[@corky_cork]

A selfish mother who killed her husband. No 7 year old could go to school and act normal. The mother needs additional charges on her.

[@lanielouwraps]

@@corky_cork I’m surprised with the precision and didn’t shoot her mother… I mean this is just not believable.

[@mikeandmals]

Seriously…it’s the most ridiculous statement. And manipulating her daughter into that testimony is DISGUSTING. I hope she sees all these comments

[@snowwhite2524]

Lori Daybell sent her son to school after his uncle murdered his Dad. Lori Daybell is a monster. I'm guessing that Isabelle's Mom is too.

[@gillmiller3702]

The daughter has been coached, her mother is a liar

[@laraespeaks]

100%!!!

[@drmartina6872]

Absolutely…and in my field of clinical psychology that is abuse. It’s sickening and this “attorney” needs to be reported for his coaching as well

[@bunnygaffney2765]

Yep

[@Catlover1956.]

My Thoughts too. What is her deal and why? Is she expecting to get a lower sentence?

[@brendaleelucero8940]

​@@drmartina6872 AMEN 🙏🏽

[@bullitt0713]

She remembers every single word, every single action, where everything was, the exact order of actions, every feeling, and every emotion. Meanwhile I don’t remember one single thing from when I was 7 😅😂😂

[@Marj15]

And her memories match her mom’s almost exactly.

[@Maybe.later1]

I remember some special days from my childhood, especially if they were traumatic. That's very possible in my opinion.

[@icequeen6512]

You usually don't remember when it's a traumatic event. Your brain goes into a kind of protective mode so to speak if you suffer trauma of any kind. This is why 'victims' later in life have to have all kinds of therapy including hypnosis, it's like trying to dig out those suppressed memories. We automatically go into protective mode. If we didn't have this ability, let's say we would of all become extinct by now

[@novascotiaskater1868]

And so amazingly the exact same words and steps of the incident as how her mother testified to….

[@brookebebabbling]

Not to side with either side ... But I remember every detail of every traumatic or meaningful event.

[@karoleegregerson7600]

Drugging her mom to go to sleep? How would 5 year old know that unless mom filled her head with it.

[@mikeandmals]

Exactly 💯

[@Marj15]

The same way she would know everything else if dad is really a- never home or sleeping and b- the kids are confined to their rooms. Mom is bat shiz cra cra🙂

[@djohny-ne3gg]

exactly. She's been lied to plain and simple

[@ENFPerspectives]

She's speaking from a 15 year old perspective as to what she remembers from being 5. The lawyer needs to ask her that question. I think it's possible but it needs put into a context

[@blackbway]

When I was about 4 or 5, the police used to visit my home regularly to arrest my step father for possession of ganja and child maintenance and also abusing his X. I didn't know the details then, but I gradually filled out the blanks as time goes by.

[@Asia-Jmnz]

That woman is not a mother at all, sacrificing her own daughter to save herself, speechless...

[@ianpotter946]

Are you judge, jury and executioner? Unbelievable you are judging someone you can't see as an accomplice? Judging her on her voice and emotions? She was protecting her mom, that's it. End of case

[@elinorlee1539]

​​@@ianpotter946dude Stevie Wonder could see that this little girl is lying and that this mom is a narcissistic monster! If you are this gullible, do the world a favor and please don't vote because you probably would wind up voting for someone like Trump 🤦‍♀️ I think women that try to lie about being battered to kill someone like this terrible woman and Ashleigh Banfield should get double the jail sentence just because it ruins it for people who really do get abused.

[@TY-ex5vw]

This woman is the same type of mother as Maddie Soto’s mother😢

[@bmx_helisman8252]

So the boyfriend rescued them... then threatened to kill them too. Got it. 😅

[@3rdeyevisualizations207]

My thoughts exactly

[@mikeandmals]

Riiiiight….from hero to psycho stalker

[@karoleegregerson7600]

Right. Makes no sense.

[@gogators5762]

And teleported right beside her after she shot her own father in the back of the head! He just showed up right after, her words!

[@mikeandmals]

@@gogators5762 just POOF! There he was!

[@ivelearnedalot8354]

I don’t believe the girl shot her father at the tender age of 7 no way. Best friend and mom she said. That speaks volumes.

[@MsTeaRex]

When I was 7 years old I witnessed a lot of violence for my father and mother and did I grab a gun and shoot my dad?No I ran away and hit under the bed.

[@SusanB.-MayPeacePrevail]

The child has simple/basic speech patterns yet uses/knows words like “Escalate” and “Combative”? - Then the lawyer’s leading questions of “Did you feel you had to shoot him? You’re firm on that?” C’mon, this child was coached and her mother’s behavior knows no bottom!

[@suemirchell9737]

Exactly, I was comparing her to my own granddaughter and I Know she doesn't use words like that.

[@ralf2891]

U r a Idiot

[@alexandrakoutsis7146]

She's older now and recounting events ...even if coached she'll speak using her words now not as a young child of 7

[@fulanichild3138]

Either this child is lying to protect her mother, or Laurie Shaver is the dumbest person alive. If the child actually killed her father while defending her mother from his attack, Laurie should have called police immediately and told them exactly what happened. There would have been ample evidence, such as gun powder residue on the child's hands. There is no way a child of 7 would have been imprisoned if events had unfolded the way they now claim. She probably would have had court ordered therapy or something, and this would have been resolved years ago.

[@cookie_dough_hangover]

Finally an intelligent comment.

[@JArent2011]

Best comment of the day.

[@sylerbo]

🎯

[@jeannettedodge5886]

💯💯

[@carolsheenyhailstoneartgra3977]

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@drmartina6872]

I took my time to listen to this testimony without reading anything about the case and I was immediately appalled. You don’t need to be a child clinical psychologist like me to come to the conclusion that this little girl was coached by her “mom and best friend” to save her a$$. Shame on her. Abuse??? This is the classical demonstrative of emotional and psychological abuse. Manipulating and emotional blackmail to get a poor child to cover your crime. Shame shame shame on her. Sick

[@mikeandmals]

Absolutely Vile….i hope the jury sees through all of this insanity!

[@JenniDoesCrimes]

Nice to have a professional weigh in on this, thank you.

[@JenniDoesCrimes]

Don’t you think, based on your experience, that there would have been glaring behavioral changes with a 7 year old that people would have noticed? A kid that just shot their dad wouldn’t just go back to school and go on with life without noticeable signs, right?

[@britt_______________ttirb]

​@@JenniDoesCrimesi would imagine the teachers would of said something or notice something. Don't get me wrong I think the mother is behind this, and being at 7 you can shoot your dad if you see that your mother is getting a--sed, . BUT if your child did shoot their father, why cover up the body the way you did ? That's the most confusing part. (I also haven't being keeping up with the trail, and haven't seen the mother take the stand yet but I have been keeping up with stories.)

[@gojobuddy]

@@britt_______________ttirb She was on the stand yesterday

[@Raizo9261]

I feel like she was brain washed by mother

[@Thetruthwillprevail231]

1000000000%. Her mother had 8 years to manipulate and brainwash her daughter into believing this to be true. I feel bad for this child. I hope she doesn’t find out the truth. She will definitely need some inpatient therapy if it does come out. She will know everything her mother told her was a lie for her own benefit. This mother is pure evil! I hope she never sees the daylight again for this.

[@rochellestarr9538]

NO,she was coached and very little "Brainwashing'.was necessary here.She knows she didnt do it because that would have been an excellent defense if told from the beginning .Shes a sacrifice who might get sympathy from the jury and walk

[@alexandrakoutsis7146]

In jail everything is recorded it would be hard for her to say anything to her daughter

[@Thetruthwillprevail231]

@@alexandrakoutsis7146 she was out on bail this whole time. So she definitely had enough time to make a story.

[@amydaniels6442]

The way the daughter turns on and off the tears is unreal. I don’t believe a word she’s saying.

[@mikeandmals]

She’s had 9 years to practice this, thanks to dear old mommy. It’s absolutely disgusting

[@beth3099]

the tears part yes but the rest is scarily convincing

[@jeanbeans7926]

I can't believe she is so nonchalant. WTH?

[@shonabeggs4640]

Yes, it's very scary. Not all psychopaths are born that way.

[@iveliserojas612]

Me either why if you a phone you don’t call 911 hello

[@corky_cork]

Nobody who killed her father at the age of 7 could testify this way. Turn the fake tears off as soon as she is told. The mother needs additional charges. That poor 15 year old almost 16 year old will do anything for her mother’s love. Her mother is a monster.

[@drmartina6872]

And let’s not ignore the leading questions by this attorney…the entire deposition or interview is conducted such that this sorry excuse for a lawyer leads this underage witness to answer these questions. I would report him to the bar

[@lizzierose007]

My sentiments exactly!

[@sierra3646]

@@drmartina6872there is the prosecutor to object.

[@lilasmith9913]

I AM WITH U ON THIS 💯! THE MOTHER IS PURE EVIL.

[@prettyhot1]

Three words let me know her testimony is fake when she said her dad " drugged her water"

[@briandickson3726]

The daughter was not credible at all. First she says her father was awful always hitting her mom and having no relationship with him and being forced to always being in their rooms. Then she shares he always spent time with her teaching about gun safety, etc. Countless other things don't add up, she learns all the lying from her pathetic mother.

[@crysn315]

She's a minor who is doing anything she can to dig her mother out of a hole. She was/is obviously being manipulated by her mom, and it's really sad her mother put her in this position to begin with. I have a lot of sympathy for her. Her mother is the awful person here, not the brainwashed child. She is probably freaking out at the thought of losing her mother to life in prison. Its hard NOT to be understanding of this child's position.

[@britt_______________ttirb]

​​@@crysn315 it kills me when people say "She's LYING". Regardless if she did shoot, or if she didn't. I appreciate your comment about sympathy and wish people see this as more clearly as you do.

[@Bigbubba3031]

The daughter is 100% credible. She killed him. End of story. This is not a debate.

[@Thetruthwillprevail231]

I believe that this child has been manipulated to think she shot her dad. She has had years and years of brainwashing and manipulation to be able to think this story is true. She is going to be damaged by this for her whole life. I feel very bad for this girl and whatever relationships she has further in her life.

[@christalzerr4551]

She seems awfully chipper and cheery discussing this major trauma 🤔

[@MrBetc]

I tend to believe that if you were told something when you were 7-8 yrs old over and over you would believe it actually happened especially if your Mom was the one that told you that. I for one do not believe the daughter shot her Dad.

[@mikeandmals]

Exactly…she’s had 9 years to manipulate and plant false memories into her daughter’s head.

[@ENFPerspectives]

Yep. Sad. I've seen people tell lies repeatedly, and they'll freak out if you dare to call them on it.

[@rochellestarr9538]

The daughter knows it didnt happen that way.This would have been an excellent defense to tell the police in the beginning.This is a case of using the minor who may bring sympathy for a jury and this "mother' sacrificing her daughter.

[@karoleegregerson7600]

7 year old knows where 2 pink and black guns are. My 7 year old girls played with barbies. I call bull.

[@corky_cork]

Hard to believe how low a lawyer will go to protect his client.

[@Sundaylamb3]

lets be honest this is not a lawyer this is what you call an ambulance chaser. No reputable lawyer is taking this case

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

Lawyer should be charged. Especially for leading questions!!! And being an arrogant ass.

[@scottleighton1687]

I heard hell is hot and it's full of lawyers and psycho jezebels

[@brianhollon178]

@@Bunny-ur8fdyou don’t get charges for asking leading questions. Let’s get that straight please hahaha

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

@@brianhollon178 oh!….i thought you could?! Dumb me. Thank you so much for educating me. I had no idea!!

[@staceyjordan6187]

This mother is pure evil!!! To brain wash her daughter all these years and to put her up to saying she killed her father at 7 yo. I hope the mother gets life in prison without parole. To do this to her daughter is evil. This child has to live with this the rest of her life. It's totally insane

[@Bunny-ur8fd]

I feel TERRIBLE FOR JEREMY! He did nothing but probably try to get away from this crazy woman as soon as she exposed her crazy that she had swept under the rug the first times they met up. She and her daughter are despicable!!!! Prison for mom and daughter. Anyone who believes this BS needs a psychiatrist.

[@Mel-jy3kq]

Imagine having a mother like that

[@mhonio1111]

I don’t believe this girl at all! She’s lying to save her mom/her best friend from going to jail. It’s bizarre!

[@ont.cobbles]

Yip. Pinning it on her because "she's a minor so can easily get away with it." Twisted. Her mother manipulated her into this story.

[@Sundaylamb3]

nonstop lying horrific RIP Mike

[@ryanblow5260]

@@Sundaylamb3daughter should be charged with perjury and mother needs to be punished for murder, imo

[@darlin3200]

This girl is lying She would mot des ibe him like that at su h an early age. Herother bribed her all her life, making her think they are best friends.😢​@ont.cobbles

[@darlin3200]

Sorry so many mistakes😮

[@CoriAlexis93]

This is one of the most un-credible witnesses I’ve ever heard testify. Oh sweetie, please don’t lie for your mom. She literally doesn’t care what happens to you as a result of taking the blame. What kind of mother is that?!

[@y2ksurvivor]

She could never be held accountable for a crime committed at 6 or 7 even if it were true. Too young to be criminally liable. That's why they feel safe taking the risk at all. And it's unlikely a judge is going to hold her in contempt for lying under oath. Most judges choose not to throw people in jail for lying under oath even when they can, particularly when the defendant is found guilty. It's seen as a waste of time.

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Look up Lil Woody, listen to the prosecutor lie bigtime

[@Thetruthwillprevail231]

@@y2ksurvivorI really believe that the daughter thinks this “story” is true. She has been brainwashed and manipulated to think the story is true for 8 years. I feel bad that she doesn’t know the truth. 😢

[@rochellestarr9538]

Not only is the MOM attempting to sacrifice her daughter,shes committing perjury,which gets you serious jail time

[@hope199]

OMG the change in the "daughters" attitude is palpable -

[@JenniferWaite63]

The girl is lying. She sounds nervous. I don't believe her bond with her mother is as tight as she claims. Her mother is a pos, to put this on her own daughter. I despise mothers like that 😡

[@DarthAmethyst94]

The prosecutors need to question how close they are. Like, if they shared secrets or if they ever have disagreements. Like try to find out if this is a codependent mother-daughter relationship. Cuz then it will paint a picture of who was responsible.

[@elinorlee1539]

​@@DarthAmethyst94of course it's codependent! A 15 year old girl's best friend should be another 15 year old girl and not her mother! I know there's lots of helicopter mom idiots that are going to try to disagree with me and tell me that they're teenager is their best friend but that's not the way the relationship is supposed to go and it's not healthy! The smartest thing I ever heard was that if you teenager likes you, you're not doing a good enough job 🤣

[@christineisabel7827]

Im a gun owner, licensed, and I cannot figure out for the life of me how Isabelle had a enough strength to pull the trigger and hold the gun, hand guns will kick a small . child. This girl is lying, she is saving her mother.

[@JeeperzCreeperz-t2t]

I was thinking the same thing. I haven't been able to listen to the whole case but just the mechanics don't match. Did she shoot once? That's damn good aim for an 8 yr old!

[@tamastapf9117]

I would like to hear what exact gun she used and info about the gun. I know nothing about guns but have been wondering about a child using a gun.

[@zxy78267]

True, however, they were big gun enthusiasts. My dad taught me to shoot when I was seven. He taught us about gun safety first, and then let us fire the gun.

[@babs3652]

Just my thoughts. Imagine this small hands hold a gun and pull the trigger is unbelievable.

[@sonia354]

With split second timing as well….

[@cleemcbride1]

If this girl is so nonchalant about killing her dad get her off the street. Who is safe around her?

[@corky_cork]

She did not do it

[@KohalaLover]

This child didn’t kill her father.

[@Sundaylamb3]

she was too young to know how to dial 911 but old enought to shoot a gun at 6 and go to school as if nothing happened.

[@thishappyhousewife9341]

This is so awful. That woman is pure evil. That's coached testimony and it's disgusting. I don't even have to hear more than a few minutes and watching her mother sit there and twist around in her chair like she's watching a soccer game is just appalling.

[@Shhh396]

So sad these poor children had to deal with adult issues

[@bluskyz7398]

OMG, there it is - an 8 yr old shoots at her dad then sees him get shot again & " I was used to seeing violence, so I was able to perform normally at school" ??!!! NO WAY in hell! THAT was something she was told to say.

[@briandickson3726]

I know, how pathetic that someone so dumb could coach her on such a statement. Her mom did that obviously!

[@dudemorris7769]

Ridiculous, this girl has said this from the time it was learned about her father being gone. You weren’t there & if you were, you may be the guilty person. Please let us know you were there so the police can come pick you up for your statement & following interrogation.

[@bluskyz7398]

Don't need to have been there if you have any common sense about human nature. There is not an 8 yr old on the planet who has the fortitude, life experience, body/emotional control to act completely normal at school after having just seen her father's head blown off. or anybody shot in the head, let alone someone you know, even if her father was abusive. It's an experience that would be hard for an adult to shake off, let alone a very young child. PLUS, if I'm the mother, I'd be nervous as hell that my child would not be able to handle herself at school, should not go to school, etc. "You OK honey? I'm fine! OK, let's get you to school!" As if the pet hamster has just died. Then no counseling after that? She probably didn't need counseling, because she probably wasn't there. She was probably in the car, waiting to be taken to school. Their entire story is completely preposterous... DUDE.

[@briandickson3726]

@@bluskyz7398 I’m shocked her lawyer allowed them to testify. What a stupid story they thought up!

[@bluskyz7398]

@@briandickson3726 IKR?! I guess he figured it's her best shot, that the jury will sympathize with the daughter? Or may create some doubt for one juror?

[@True_crime_justice]

I don't believe the daughter! Well rehearsed testimony! Shocking to see the extent of manipulation by her mother😡

[@annebosworth7048]

Yes she learned her lines well..

[@bullitt0713]

I think it is possible that she actually believes she shot him because her mother convinced her that she did. Many people are saying she’s lying, but I think it’s possible that she actually believes it. Everyone knows the truth except for her daughter.

[@JenniferCastro173]

Groomed since 7 to answer these questions at 16yr old. Just because they may come one day

[@djohny-ne3gg]

sure, you can tell a child something enough and they will believe it as fact. Just like lori vallow told her kids they were all diddled by dear ol dad. Turns out mom was just the lying murderer

[@ENFPerspectives]

Sadly, if adults can be convinced through gaslighting, children can be even more so. 😢. Idk why I watch these. They're so sad.

[@shecat1964]

I can attest to this happening. False memories can be planted in a child. My youngest daughter believes im the worst mother on the planet, because her father and her grandmother got her to believe i was the one who did bad things.I kicked her father out when she about 2. He is an abusive, alcoholic, narcissist. I suffer from cptsd. He even kicked me down the stairs when i was 7 months pregnant with her. He did not get much visitation for a few years and i let her make the choice. I did not want her to resent me for keeping her father away when he had done nothing to her, that i knew of at the time. He never paid me a dime in child support, I even supported him for many years, bought everything for her. As she got older he kept a job here and there and would buy her things i said no to. So he became her fav person. He bought her and messed with her head. She has very little good memories of me she says. She is now 19. When she speaks to me at times, i know those words come from his narcissistic gaslighting mouth. She now seems to lack empathy or compassion. I nearly died from covid and its like a switch flipped in her. She suddenly started being extremely nasty to me. I tried to get emergency mental help for her, as we suspected she may have been developing BPD. The child phycologist flatley refused to even see her. Then she ran away at 16 for a year and came back home after her boyfriend kicked her out. She brought 2 cats. Then 2 years ago i was diagnosed with lung cancer and lost part of my lung. She could care less. When i came home from the hospital, she had let her cats pee all over the house and i had to live in my bedroom while i recovered. Her 2 older sisters would atest i spoiled her and babied her. I was making more money after she was born, so she got more than her sisters did as kids. She also had some physical issues when she was younger. I did everything for her, then when i got sick i was not able to do as much and her father convinced her it was because i did not care and just neglected her and i was just a big faker. I chose a no win. She was going to hate me for not allowing her to know him or hate me because hes abuser. Instead she turned into him. The biggest mistake was to allow him to stay in her life and put up with how he treated me when he came around. I wish i could go back and do it over. So yes i know personally, how a child can be manipulated. Sorry for the book.

[@shecat1964]

@@ar4203 Are you a psychologist? Do you know 100% how every person's mind works? Everyone has their own reasons for watching, Some associate with the crime. Has nothing to do with morbid curiosity. To insult someone for their own personal reason for watching, is just wrong. If you have morbid curiosity that's you, That is not everyone else.

[@angiec9650]

I was trying to be open as she recounted what happened… she lost me at “and then Jeremy appeared and took the gun off me & shot my dad then told us we couldn’t tell anyone or he’d do the same to us” … Totally COACHED!!

[@chicago1779]

She was seven when he died so easy to manipulate her! How awful of a human her mother is to sacrifice her daughter’s freedom for hers! This poor girl how awful to be so badly traumatized at the hands of her mother! Shame on this excuse of a woman

[@ryanblow5260]

No way a 7 year old got a gun and shot her father!! This mother is a monster, and does not deserve to walk free! How could someone live with themselves after doing all this?!

[@StephlovesJesusandCountryMusic]

Younger kids have been in the news for getting a hold of a gun and shooting siblings etc, yes mostly accidental but yes it happens

[@CramKam123]

@@ryanblow5260 no way a 15 year old articulates her testimony that way. She's been totally rehearsed and it's so obvious and so sad. All of the defense players should be ashamed.

[@brendaleelucero8940]

RIGHT 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@ChristRecords2O16]

Type "young child finds gun" and see what comes up

[@thatnewguy23]

@@ChristRecords2O16 way too many. It’s almost all news channels and the videos are OLD.

[@chicago1779]

Imagine making your daughter believe it was her 😢

[@Sundaylamb3]

she is a narc and she is convincing the daughter that she will have a payoff of some kind

[@rochellestarr9538]

SHE DOESNT BELIEVE IT WAS HER.If that were true,that would have made an excellent defense from the beginning.This is an attempt to make her the killer and get sympathy from the jury and possible walk.Perjury charges should be brought.

[@KohalaLover]

Isabel, the daughter, doesn’t want to be an orphan. Her mother is her world and she doesn’t want to lose her. I don’t buy her testimony. A seven year old shooting her father to the back of his head with a .38? Then bounces off to school like nothing happened. Laurie is cruel and cunning.

[@chicago1779]

The mother has turned this little girl against her father before anything ever happened! So so sad that she will not remember her dad in a good way! This woman has ruined her children’s lives

[@maisydaisy9216]

I mean I don’t believe she shot him but CLEARLY dad was abusive

[@southerncaltattooedbiker3643]

This Wicked Monster is having her daughter who was 7 take the fall for her Father's Murder😠‼️ Did she also put him under the fire pit and put cement on top of him. She is now 16 she could go to prison for the rest of her life this is DISGUSTING😠‼️

[@eatwithcandy7147]

Is there something wrong with you obviously the seven-year-old daughter did not kill him. And you want her to go to prison for white she’s covering up for her mother she’s been schooled and trained for this day. Why don’t you understand the case before you throw a kid in jail

[@4Mr.Crowley2]

This women is a narcissistic sociopath and she doesn’t care at all that her child could be imprisoned for life. Mom guilt-tripped her into lying, and the daughter is far far too young to realize how her mother has used her to save her own a$$ and doesn’t care about her or her future at all. The way she says her mother is her “best friend” makes my skin crawl as it’s so typical of narcissistic mothers to single out one child as special. They befriend one of the daughters and talk to them about inappropriate things like “boys” when the daughter is still a child. Ugh. This mother has filled her head with so much garbage (like the “powder in the drink”)

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@southerncaltattooedbiker3643 had her out picketing. How disgusting is that?? We are suppose to protect our kids. And if her hubby was abusive. She's at fault too for keeping her child in that environment. You CAN ESCAPE ABUSE BUT HAVE TO BE WILLING TO DO WHATEVER IT TAKES. many are not willing.

[@corky_cork]

She won’t go to prison…the mother will

[@southerncaltattooedbiker3643]

@@cynthiahagerman5718 It's Disgusting that her daughter is out side with a picket sign. I sure hope she is not going to be charged did they have her do a lie detector test to see if she is telling the truth ? Because I don't think she wants to go to prison for the rest of her life.

[@JackieHerron-p4k]

That daughter is lying for her mother how dare she throw her daughter and her boyfriends under the bus she is a selfish narcissist she might have endured some abuse but she didn't have to kill hum she just wanted him out of the way why didn't she call the police if it was self defense also its pretty strange that her daughter went to school right after she shot the man give me a break her mother is also an abusrt by telling her daughter to take the blame for shame on her guilty for sure can't wait until the mother gets cross examined she should of gotten her daughter counseling if she cared so much about her also this woman seems to go through alot of boyfriends and just moving them in with her children in the house just seems to me that she only cares about her own happiness also she had to of had help burying his body so disrespectfully what a shame can't wait until I get to see her hauled away in handcuffs

[@MamaBlisss]

Pure evil

[@DoctorEduardo]

Thats not a narcissist, thats far more likely Borderline Personality Disorder/bpd....the most envious, sadistic, destructive of types that always sabotage their partners & play the victim.

[@3rdeyevisualizations207]

Each case gets more weird than the last one, who send their baby to school after a shooting

[@gmurph6499]

Her testimony is so ridiculous. Mother should be ashamed of doing this to her child.

[@angelac3937]

Lol why does it sound like she was given a script to follow.

[@mollylenyo1407]

Why isnt the parent responsible? Big lie. How does a kid hold a gun to the back of an adults head? Hummmm

[@louiseeathorne-mellow9105]

The gun I understand a 38, needs 12lbs strength in hand to pull trigger. I had to do excersies to stretch my fingers to play classical guitar music I was younger than 7yrs plus I did alot of manual work from 6yrs on family dairy cattle farm (we didn't have big sheds, parlour in the 1970s small sheds where pitch forks shovels, buckets, old fashion hay bales - cowshed with pipe line). My father had a very short temper, always in fear - mother was narcissistic high IQ diagnosed at 80yrs personality disorder. Everything is telling me Laurie is narcissistic, coached daughter- I really don't believe Mike ever touched her. She shot him in back of head - you need to be good shooter. Follow the money. Lots of signs. Another level she reminds of Amber Hurd. Best wishes from Cornwall UK 🇬🇧

[@NanaSusanna-i8f]

Just like how does an arm have dog bites but doesn’t…FKR

[@JennieC21]

@@louiseeathorne-mellow9105 Yes, for a bit there it was like a “the dog stepped on a bee” moment 😂

[@debraann2288]

I cannot believe what I am seeing. This mother screwed her kid up for life! She’s disgusting. This child is so obviously coached. Defense counsel has to slow her down from the same exact story. This is so disturbing.

[@legendarymayormarylikestur8874]

ME said 1 bullet entered, no exit wounds, 1 bullet recovered from the skull. Kiddo claims 2 shots to the back of the head. LIE Kiddo went to school with zero change in behavior or mood. On the stand, she talks about shooting her dad like she's describing eating lunch. This kid is like mommy.

[@jeannettedodge5886]

WOW! She's been schooling her daughter, thats so disgusting..

[@ianallen2]

"Me and my mother are very close, we do everything together" She missed out the part about "I will lie about shooting my father to stop me mother from going to prison". If she was guilty of shooting her father, she sounds very calm about it.

[@StarryNightsAreForDreams]

The daughter tells the EXACT same story her mother told, including info about the neighbor the girl met one time at probably age 5, the dad’s friend, etc. Very very telling. The mother is a disgusting murderer who is “framing” her daughter because no DA would have prosecuted her at age 7. Mommie Dearest started weaving the story long before Daddy showed up under the concrete fireplace. I don’t believe the daughter’s story even 10%, and I don’t believe the mother at all. Looks like the jury didn’t either. Laurie Shaver, look at yourself and what you have done to your children. How do you even look in a mirror?

[@blackwinged9898]

It's such a tragedy for the daughter. She's old enough to know learn the consequences of perjury. It's obvious that nobody cares for this child.💔

[@jenniferbossert2088]

I’m just gonna say this, regardless of if we believe this child or not she is a child and was 7 years old when this incident occurred, she is also a victim, a victim of her circumstances. She didn’t ask for this life or make this happen. It’s either she shot him to protect her mother or she is lying to protect her mother. Calling this child pathetic and shameful is not okay.

[@SandileMabena-p9g]

Totally agree with you 100% it's such a shame reading all this comments

[@amberlynn8591]

Agreed, it is her so called mother who is pathetic and shameful!

[@crimeandcrafting]

Totally agree. I really tried to keep an open mind but she sounds too rehearsed Still, though, this kid has been through it. Through. It. But people are dumb and will unfairly criticize her

[@LadyHawk783]

Agree its not the child, she is being manipulated

[@SandileMabena-p9g]

@@LadyHawk783 how so if may explain to that

[@sunshine22723]

I don't believe it

[@lisamorehouse7469]

Sorry, daughter's testimony not credible.

[@lorabethluebchow]

Shes rambling. No way is she telling the truth. She stutters and cant seem to form a coherent opinion on certain actions to describe her fathers character. Oh "he was aggressive, we stayed in our rooms" "he sleeps on day because he works nights" make it make sense please! Daughter should also be charged for falsly testifying

[@shonabeggs4640]

Good mother's are never their children's 'best friend' that's the first red flag.

[@dmacku]

...still who put him under the fire pit????

[@nonicosio]

i would guess tha cat did it, but probably dead to testify

[@Por2ugal]

@@nonicosio😂😂😂

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

HE sure didn't bury himself

[@eatwithcandy7147]

The boyfriend she was having an affair with and the monster

[@TJ-qh7kf]

​@@cynthiahagerman5718Indeed

[@kurky72]

Nobody in the comments believes this, I doubt the jury will, She sounds so coached

[@dawnanngallagher8495]

Kids raised in an abusive home aren’t like other kids. Often times teachers don’t notice a child is in a horribly abusive home. The dad had guns and raised his young kids to shoot. Nothing in this family is normal. I don’t believe Jeremy can’t do any job. Jeremy is protecting his relationship with his current wife. He cheated. Hell he followed the family around several grocery stores. He isn’t innocent. Kids do things to protect their families. Look at kids who are sexually assaulted by pillars of the community.

[@amberalexander2741]

“He came right in before I even had a chance to move anything yet,.. “. ??? Did I hear that right ?? Kinda strange to say

[@pattyakriel9918]

Combative. Physical. Tense - her words?

[@pettykittyfam]

I can't believe a lawyer would help coach this child! This is horrifying. Laurie did this and this girl is innocent. When she said her mom was her best friend that is an immediate red flag! You shouldn't be best friends with your minor children 💯

[@bunnygaffney2765]

Never spent time with her dad but then she says they used to shoot all the time .yep that makes sense

[@lynettemacvicar1034]

Laurie testified that she wouldn't know jeremy if she saw him today..how does she know he has changed his look then? And then the daughter said he drove by the house not too long ago.none of the girls testimony is realistic. her emotions are not what you would expect if she was reliving such trauma. This is a well rehearsed story.

[@Darkmankind]

This sounds like some slow-cooked bullsh*t. A whole lot was going on for a seven-year-old.

[@mozzy8890]

This girl needs to be evaluated she’s dangerous with these lies

[@Seasheasells]

No way in hell this girl remembers these details from when she was 7

[@annettedantzler1200]

How can a young child shoot her father in the back of the head and then go to school like it’s no big deal. That tells me she couldn’t have been around unless she’s a coldhearted and unemotional child. But she did cry today… So I know that’s not true.

[@SandileMabena-p9g]

It's very unfortunate but it happened

[@dawnanngallagher8495]

You don’t seem to understand the trauma and abuse children experience, witness and face. In some communities kids see people get shot repeatedly and witness horrific crimes you and I can’t comprehend and they go to school and function. School is their refuge. The child didn’t grow up in a normal home.

[@stacyhenry5578]

If you pay attention.... She's not saying she killed him.She is saying jeremy killed him....

[@pattyakriel9918]

Escalate, not rare occurrence, often. Tears on Tears off.

[@WarriorWomann]

There’s a special place in hell for parents that throw their own children under the bus just to save their own skin. It’s so obvious this child is covering for her mother and has been thoroughly coached.

[@sheznoladyy]

It's clear that she's lying.

[@Truth1561]

Mum swinging in her chair having fun whilst her daughter perjures herself on the stand. I’m glad she’s now locked up!

[@ericaearly7008]

This little girl has been damaged for life..

[@mariadavis8745]

I agree and when she comes to terms with what her mother has done to her, there’s no telling how she will react. She needs counselling. I bet the mother never thought of getting her some sessions.

[@dianabrooklyn9762]

Will Jeremy be called to testify? She just accused him of murder. 🙄

[@Ahlly144]

Yes that’s sick

[@brbrknndy]

So her father taught her to use a gun when she was 5 years old? I don't believe her.

[@zxy78267]

My dad taught me how to shoot when I was seven. He started teaching me about gun safety a couple of years before that. He had a lifetime membership to the NRA. Guns were very common in the rural area where I grew up. We know that the father had guns. It's not implausible. I was tall for my age and I've always had long fingers, so I can't say that it's impossible that she did it. I have questions, but I think they did too much prep for her, so that it was almost like taking an oral test. She talked really fast which means she was nervous. People said that she was fake crying. I think it's a horrible and traumatic experience to have to rehash in front of people and knowing that it's televised. I think she was trying really hard not to cry, and it's been several years, basically half of her lifetime ago. I will not judge a child. It's a completely different situation than when an adult cries.

[@Marj15]

My kids and I were taught younger than that. There’s a lot I don’t believe in her testimony (hit I believe that SHE believes it), but the age he taught her doesn’t cause me too much doubt.

[@brbrknndy]

@@Marj15 You were taught to use a gun younger than 5 years old?

[@brbrknndy]

@@zxy78267 Teaching about gun safety and teaching someone to use a gun are two different things. 7 seems reasonable to me as an age to start teaching someone how to use a gun. Remember she was supposedly given free access to a gun at 7.

[@bozz3002]

she def dont remember all that from when she was 5

[@stacyhenry5578]

I find it interesting.The one thing that the daughter did not know... What's the fact that jeremy was married....

[@bunnygaffney2765]

O boy.. this little gal is going down for purgury. That mom should be ashamed of herself.

[@Bodiddly55]

When was the last time anyone was charged with perjury in a case that you can remember? It just doesn't happen, I'm not sure why an oath to tell the truth is even given before a witness testifies, if it's a defense witness a very good chance it's lies anyway.

[@LRE44]

Great point!

[@Val.D.1990]

@@Bodiddly55so EVERYONE who needs a defense is guilty in your opinion right ? That’s very interesting 🤔 you should NEVER EVER serve on jury!!!

[@Notpublished]

She turned those tears off like a hose. Not buying it.

[@southerncaltattooedbiker3643]

She might get an award for her performance. It's obvious that she is lieing and I find it hard to believe that she shot her Father.

[@charrielyn1231]

@@southerncaltattooedbiker3643 Yeah: the little 7 yr old girl held, aimed and shot with accuracy, a heavy 38 caliber revolver that requires 12 lbs of pressure just to pull the trigger!!!🙄

[@southerncaltattooedbiker3643]

@@charrielyn1231 I carry a 38 Special by Rossi and I'm 5'3 and 85 pounds and I'm 65. I carry it everywhere and everyday no matter where I go if I'm going into a bank, hospital, Dr's office I put it in my purse I don't ever want to be cought off guard by a crazy person. Even my 74 yr old Husband Carry's a Glock everywhere He is a member of the biggest Motorcycle Club in the World we both also carry a buck knife. My Husband is 6'4 with hair past his butt and a beard passed his belly button I also have hair too my knees and if either cuts it we will file for Divorce. As a Mother my self I would never think of blaming either of my Daughters or 5 Grandchildren it's just wrong. When the State asked her questions she couldn't get her rehearsed story straight it felt like the Mother had gone over what happened her whole life because she couldn't remember little things but she could remember the story her Mother told her every day and it's not like the Mother has been locked up all this time. That child lives with the guilt every day she was only 5 or 6 and I don't believe she could shoot that straight to hit him in the head, and who does the Mother claim to have buried him in the yard and then put concrete on top ? I hope that the Mother gets the Death Penalty or life with no parole‼️

[@70sladyalways25]

I don’t think the jury will either.

[@lunarphoenixforyourface]

Ever been 15? Ever been around a 15-year-old?

[@daletreadway8408]

She was 8 at the time? How does she remember from that long ago? Seems unrealistic

[@heatherdowhaluk2128]

7

[@elinorlee1539]

She said twice "it was difficult I had to use LIKE two hands ? " So did you use one hand or two hands cuz how do you use LIKE two hands?; she literally speaks as if she doesn't believe herself and she's trying to convince all of us as well of herself because she knows it doesn't sound right

[@the-helpful-stranger1154]

I was prepared to believe this poor abused child's story but this is clearly a rehearsed and memorized story. First off, she speeds through it trying to make sure to hit all the points. She tells it likes it bulletin point to bulletin point. More importantly though... it's her voice. You can clearly tell when she stops adding emotion to her voice and then ramps up to bring it back in for the major parts. But when she starts talking, the emotion goes away. It isn't her fault, I grew up in a similar type of household when it came to being coached. But it is definitely not the truth. Mom should spend a lot of time in prison just for this mental and emotional abuse. Just look at how she talks about her father in the start. Poor thing has been given such a hateful view of her father. He may not have been a good man, or the best man... but nobody deserves that.

[@gmurph6499]

I want to believe her but she doesn’t come across sincerely. She changes emotions very quickly and adds a lot of details to small things and brushes over big things like the shooting with no details or emotion. I’m concerned she isn’t telling the truth and might be covering for her mother.

[@NancyDrew1]

She is completely rehearsed.

[@junehanzawa5165]

I hope the jury sees clear through those obvious lies like everyone else is seeing. No 7 year old shoots anyone in the back of the head execution style. The mother should be charged additionally for child abuse for putting her up to this. This mother is pure evil. A total monster.

[@crystaljudy8130]

This is truly disturbing the lies the daughter is telling i know that she wants to sa e her mom she better hope they dont put charges on her too

[@crimeandcrafting]

Probably not for an 8 year old or perjury for this trial. They’d never get a conviction and they shouldn’t

[@crystaljudy8130]

@@crimeandcrafting oh I thought she was 16 so she was 8 at the time I see but still she knows not to lie and she's chosing to do so js

[@RachelAlmanza-b6b]

I'm 57 and if someone was to ask me what I did 8 yrs ago I don't think I could remember so accurate! Much less if I was a 7 yr old!! 8 yrs later that child remembers so perfectly! My butt! Ain't buying that!!

[@brendaleelucero8940]

HONESTLY this lady Laurie is a MASTER MANIPULATOR 💯 When her marriage wasn't working out, she Put On Her Hustle to find another Poor Soul to DESTROY 🤬 Pointing her finger at EVERYONE ELSE but herself!!! Her daughter Will Eventually Grow Up to Resent and Hate her for trying to get her Young daughter to take the Fall for her. It's a Damn SHAME and Ultimately Laurie herself WILL STAND BEFORE GOD and HAVE TO ANSWER FOR WHAT SHE HAS DONE 👹🤡👺☠️

[@brendaleelucero8940]

There came a time when You (Laurie) started Dating???? Dating...I don't know and about that but DEFINITELY she was Having Sex with MULTIPLE MEN 🤷🏼‍♀️ I just Don't Understand WHY some People just Don't get a Divorce, OTHER than REVENGE and ANGER Due to being REJECTED! ALL the Way Around, this is EMBARRASSING to ALL THOSE INVOLVED 💯🫣 Married People TRY YOUR BEST to LEARN A LESSON from FATAL ATTRACTIONS as THIS 😩🙏🏽

[@charrielyn1231]

Yeah… and I’ll say it again: I’d rather be me standing before the Pearly Gates than some others I’ve seen through the years!😬😬😬

[@ademarbenitezaranjo8299]

oh my gosh, the daughter sounds rehearsed and heavely couched, plus her memory is pristine when it comes to the shooting but totally blurry about the year, seasons, staying in her room while alas speding time learning how to shoot in her many acres home, shame shame shame on the mom

[@lisarogers7415]

A 7 year old shoots and/or witness her father being shot dead goes on with life as if nothing happened. And the fact she’s talking so fast is a clear indication she’s going off what she was coached to say. Pathetic!

[@voodootattoohawaii]

what a coward to let your daughter take the blame. happy birthday to your daughter. the gift was putting her mother away for lying on the stand

[@ChazSmithProductions]

So her father was killing her mother so she got a gun and shot her father then Jerome showed up, took the gun and shot him again to finish the kill. At no time did Jerome rush in to stop the fight... he just appeared on the scene immediately as she shot her father and without knowing what was going on he decided to shoot the dad, too. Then no one ever talked about it again. Huh?

[@QT-Hush]

No one remembers this amount of detail or the specific order that things occurred in several years later. Especially when recalling an incident that occurred at the age of seven years years old. This is likely what her mother told her happened and she believes that's what happened, or she is lying to protect her mom. This poor girl.

[@MamaBlisss]

The way she turns off her emotions so quickly is very telling. It says a lot about her mother allowing her to be the sacrificial lamb.

[@snowwhite2524]

I feel really bad for this girl because she doesn't deserve any of this trauma. I wish that all children were born to loving parents with safe, healthy, and happy home lives. I hope that she heals from this trauma and that she's able to find peace, healing, and happiness.

[@Chrisrazz]

The lie in this case is crazy like this post if you think she lying

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

@@Chrisrazz im a human lie detector wth a degree in law enforcement. That kid was lying either consciously or having been brainwashed

[@missysbloglife]

​@cynthiahagerman5718 and I'm the queen of England 😂

[@dudemorris7769]

@@cynthiahagerman5718you’re a liar. Absolutely you aren’t a child psychologist or child psychiatrist & can not, as a “specialist” as you claim to even make an assumption as you did. Actually, quite frankly if I believed you in the slightest I would have your IP address ran & reported to the board in your state. You have never worked with children & any “”body language Experts (cough cough), will tell every one of them that they are 50% accurate in majority of their assessments. They learn more after and only after facts have been revealed. The majority of law enforcement don’t solve crimes, especially interrogators, with a single person. They use multiple techniques and methods, along with multiple people. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[@micscha]

The daughter needs to work on her acting. You can hear the bullcrap too easily in her voice.

[@randolphbean1108]

Like mother, like daughter. Mommy brainwashed her.

[@jenniferbossert2088]

Where is the brother? We need the brother to testify. He could possibly be the key witness to this case.

[@heatherdowhaluk2128]

😂he was 3 at the time

[@joannephillips4110]

I agree... strange the brother doesn't know anything. How did the neighbours not hear Mom calling for help outside?

[@joannephillips4110]

​@@heatherdowhaluk2128Oh... I thought the daughter said they were both taken to school.

[@beverleywhiteaker355]

How could the daughter go rite to school after shooting her dad she would be so upset

[@OliverFortniteRobloxMinecraft]

You will never convince me as the mother of two children of the age this girl was that these memories are even remotely accurate. Perhaps elements of it may have occurred (but probably not) but a child doesn’t understand these things, cannot pinpoint event sequences like this and memories change over time for adults let alone small children.

[@corky_cork]

Yes, a 7 year old can shoot her father then go to school and act normal. Are you frigging kidding me?

[@susanbarton8873]

Not Believable!!! She's had over 8yrs to be COACHED. Shame on this mother for putting this child on the stand.🙃

[@ms.j9693]

Didn't know how to call 911, but knows how to use a gun?