LaVar Arrington Says Austin Rivers Comment on Basketball Players Playing Football is Ignorant

2 PROS & A CUP OF JOE- Brady Quinn, LaVar Arrington, and Jonas Knox talk about the comments made by Austin Rivers in regards to basketball players being able to play in the NFL today. The guys break down the story and LaVar thinks the comments are ignorant, but maybe not for the traditional reasons.
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[@tricky3112]

Name one NBA player that can run a 4.3 40 yrd dash, bench 350+ Squat 400+ and can take vicious hits? None!!!! The NFL is a different beast! Greatest athletes in the world.

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Aw stop most pro athletes were multi sport athletes coming up any way where u from

[@gsp3428]

If many pro basketball players decided to play football they would not be in the NFL, they would dominate the NFL. Lebron James would be the greatest receiver ever. So would a number of guys in the NBA, its already been proven. Guys like antonio Gates, college basketball player wasnt good enough to play in NBA, Tony Gonzales college basketball player wasnt good enough to play even close to the NBA, and a bunch of others who became big Time NFL players who played college ball but couldnt sniff the NBA. NBA players have everything football players do, except they are a foot taller than many NFL players.

[@user-hk9wl1jx5k]

@@gsp3428 Gonzales was a football player who played basketball. Every defensive player besides the big run stuffers could play in an NBA rotation as a 3 and D player. When you look at athletic testing football players are superior to basketball players. LeBron is good in the NBA because he plays a small man's game and gets to use his size and strength. He would not have a size and strength advantage in the NFL. Besides the NFL tests for PED's. LeBron would be suspended. You have to have football instincts to play football. They don't have them.

[@gsp3428]

@@user-hk9wl1jx5k There are no players in the nfl that could even come close to sniffing an NBA team, and lebron would be the most unstoppable receiver in NFL history most likely. 6'8 270 pounds, runs faster than pretty much everyone in his prime. Cornerbacks are generally around 6 feet tall on average, no one can stop lebron or many NBA players if they decided to play footall, the height difference is too big combined with elite athleticism also.

[@zazzazoozay2914]

Bruh 6'8 wr? No freaggin way. Any cornerback or safety could stand flat footed for 4 quarters showing no respect. He would have to play TE which he is definitely too soft to play.

[@paul-pq4xp]

Both sports are completely different disciplines

[@17thN.O]

Completely agree.

[@heartbreak25]

Yep, once your body matures after college, you pretty much specialize.

[@JamesKlass79]

Facts plus one is a contact sport the other is a collision sport.

[@moonbiter3230]

I was really waiting for Lavar to say, “they may not be a star player, but they’ll be an Austin Rivers” 😂

[@marsalisthomas2111]

Football players are far more explosive than hoopers

[@Daniel_Capital]

Absolutely not.

[@jsm530]

​@@Daniel_Capitalthey are because they wear pads which are heavy and also take nonstop harm.

Zion, Stephen Adam's, are the only players who would survive the physicality of the NFL

[@marsalisthomas2111]

Zion probably could Steven Adams 6'10 he wouldn't last on a football field

[@1Eashawty]

There’s not 30 nba players that could play in the nfl & there’s not 30 nfl players that could play in the nba

[@EBIJunk-u6z]

LeBron James who was timed at 4.60 in the 40 yard dash at age 28 would be a fantastic TE. Ja Morant with his leaping ability and speed would be a great WR or CB. There are many NBA players that could athletically play in the NFL. It would take some time to get accustomed to the physicality and at least some NBA players would be able to get accustomed to the physicality and some would quit. It would be easier for NBA players to get accustomed to the physicality of the NFL than it would be for NFL players to develop their skills for the NBA.

[@bobbytaylor6946]

Lavar is right when he say there is a ton of football players that played basketball the reason their still playing football is they couldn't continue to the next level in basketball. They didn't choose football football chose them. The life of a basketball player is much better. Guaranteed contracts, longevity, no inclimate weather etc. If there is a choice no one's choosing football

[@tonywong8134]

I think 30 is too big of a number, but to transition from the NBA to NFL is easier than the other way around. Antonio Gates, Julius Peppers, Jimmy Graham all played at pro-bowl levels and were former basketball players. I've never heard of any such former football players making that transition to the NBA. What hurts is that NFL players are very short compared to NBA players. Like Myles Garret is 6'4" but there are point guards, the smallest position on the court, that are taller than him. Handling a basketball is much more difficult that catching a football with sticky gloves on.

[@macmoney88]

Nate Robinson was a corner in college and became a pretty good nba player.

[@anthonyray5713]

Not one NBA player is running 4.6 or faster.

[@thomascrowne5167]

Charlie Ward. Goggle him. He could have went either way. He even said Football is way tougher. And he was a Heisman trophy winner.

[@ddjyt2009]

Skilled high school football players choose basketball over football. Skilled big guys choose basketball over football. No one looks at an nfl player and imagine them playing basketball. Countless examples of nba players fans wonder what they’d be like playing football.

[@vindigga6]

NFL is the only sport where guys can walk on with zero experience, one comes to mind is willie parker, steelers running back. He was a truck driver and tried out and became a pro bowl RB, victor cruz is another walk on. Football also has guys come from other sports, baseball? Russell wilson and pat mahommes, theres also been guys come over from rugby. And i agree you could only transition in certain positions, wr, te, special teams, easy stuff like that. Football is also a sport where u can easily change positions, ahmad bradsaw was a qb in college, drafted as a corner, became a all pro RB. You really cant do that in the nba, if your a 7fter your a center and thats it. If your 6ft your a point guard, your not playing center. Football, they can stick u anywhere as long as you make the effort.

[@Ohmug3nW3apon13]

He said right now, nope their nba body aren’t conditioned to take hits.

[@fortone3390]

Jimmy Graham was a bench warmer while on the University of Miami's basketball team for three years, Antonio Gates was a power forward on a final four basketball team. He made to the NFL without playing college football. Ronald Curry, Tony Gonzalez, and Julius Peppers were all top notch basketball players on the college level. Lavar is a joke!

[@lorenzoyoung698]

Julius peppers was not a top notch basketball player, he was barely getting in, did you actually watch the games

[@gsp3428]

Exactly the people I thought of, not one of those guys could sniff the NBA, except Peppers if he decided to play, he was talented, but a much better football player.

[@Daniel_Capital]

and Lavar wasn't good enough at basketball, that's why he had to play football

[@fortone3390]

@lorenzoyoung698 I didn't say top-notch NBA prospect.. He was a bench player on the Tarheels, so yes, he was a top-notch basketball player.

[@RyTrapp0]

Go watch clips of Draymond playing TE - this doesn't go how you think it does

[@Daniel_Capital]

I agree with Austin. NBA players are taller, way better dexterity and hand-eye coordination, jump higher, have to play offense and defense.

[@KynartiSpencer]

I was in the Marines and never heard them compare it to any sport

[@ReneLuis-ge7df]

Who???

[@deedotson1]

I wish I would see KD running a crossing route, he would get folded in half 😅

[@cotati76]

NBA players wouldn’t last a single NFL scrimmage let alone a real game. They flop and flail and cry when nobody even touches them. LeBronze is constantly on the ground when he’s barely touched and then rolls around grabbing his neck. You think he could take a hit from a free safety and live? Those NFL boys are extremely tough and NBA guys just don’t compare.

[@woody64436]

The best Athlete play football and it not even close I’m sorry. NFL player are tactician with their foot work and speed. And encompasse all area of athleticism, strength, speed, jumping, throwing, tackling. Stop the fuss bruh

[@future_teknokrat7585]

Football requires less individual skill and explosiveness from an athletic standpoint, but they have the better athletes... in my own experience, the best football players also were some of the best basketball players. My HS bball team was alright during the first month and a half. When the football players showed up, we were championship material.

[@cheapR1]

Naw, the athletes would follow the money. You can get a guaranteed contract in the NBA. Anyone who has both NFL and NBA talent is in the NBA

[@lorenzoyoung698]

Naw bruh that just meant y'all was trash without the football players

[@JorgeVassall]

Sorry people... Austin was right

[@kevinyang6283]

people say football takes no skills? every damn sport takes skill, every position on the field takes skills...anyone can play a sport but do you have the higher skills than the other....

[@1nceagin]

Here is the flaw in Lavar's argument: He said that if you got a basketball player that has never played football, he could play wide receiver or tight end if you split them out. If you got a football player that has never played basketball, he would struggle making a college basketball team and would have a zero chance of making it on an Nba team...

[@tonejack1]

I can tell you never put the pads on.

[@1nceagin]

@@tonejack1 I can tell you don't read...

[@efitchpatric]

Football looks very easy when looking at from the stands.

[@thurmanwashington3120]

no it doesn't... I feel those hits from the stands, almost spill my bear...lol lol

[@maa7332]

Ahsmwm Lavar stopped playing basketball bc he was not good enough, and played football. This is what most football players do. Everyone tries to play basketball. Do you realize that Tony Gonzalez played college basketball and was a backup forward behind Sherrif AbdurRahim at Cal? He might be the greatest TE to play football. Football players are crazy. Name one person who played college football only and then played in the NBA.

[@ambassadorbarak2884]

They play Major League Baseball ask Kyler Murray

[@maa7332]

Missed your point?

[@anthonyray5713]

Do you know the story of Charlie Ward?

[@maa7332]

@@anthonyray5713 Yes; he played both football and basketball, and was a far better college football player than basketball player. He was the Heisman football award winner as a senior. Thus, an average NBA talent basketball player would have a better chance to football if he desired to get hit, correct?

[@anthonyray5713]

@@maa7332 Ward was better than an average talent in the NBA. He played for 10 years on teams that made it to the ECF and NBA Finals. He was the starting PG on some of those teams. He was not guaranteed to succeed as QB. Thats why no one drafted him in the 1st round. Secondly, and most importantly, getting hit in the NFL is more than a notion. I heard a former NFL player say that EVERY year, they have to re-adjust to getting hit in the NFL. That's one of the main reasons for training camp. Finally, the height, weight, speed, and leverage needed to play football is much different than basketball. Barry Sanders could not make it as a PG (too short) and Tim Duncan couldn't make it as a WR (too slow).

[@bradley6836]

Antonio Gates never played college football and played college basketball and will be a hall of fame football player

[@Azula_7]

I’ll tell you the number one reason why NBA players will never make it in the NFL. That sole reason is, you’re never going to touch the ball every play. But every play, either you gotta hit someone or some one is going to put you on your ass.

[@DefSquadFan]

Charlie Ward won the Heisman then led the Knicks to the Finals.

[@lorenzoyoung698]

Charlie Ward didn't led the Knicks , don't exaggerate in order to make your point

[@Daniel_Capital]

led the knicks . Thanks for that i literally lol'd at this comment

[@WISHBONEL7]

Although 30 may be an exaggeration , your game must be much more sharper in basketball .

[@magicfanben]

Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, Tony Gonzalez, Antonio Gates are all failed basketball players whose lack of athleticism are fully exposed on a basketball court. NFL athletes are far more diverse, but nba players would break the nfl with enough training.

[@untamedn7987]

Too say that any of those guys lacked athleticism is completely wrong.. maybe they weren’t tall enough or didn’t have the skill. Randy Moss is probably faster and can jump higher than 95% of players in NBA history. The football player is typically the better athlete. Just not as tall. And taller doesn’t mean more athletic.

[@Rome_22]

NBA is more skill and NFL is more toughness and speed. Simple as that.

[@matthewdennis1739]

Different skill sets, different talents, different body types...it will be very rare that anyone from either league would be able to have any degree of success in the other league. The sports are just too specialized and both take so much focus and dedication.

[@Rome_22]

@@matthewdennis1739I agree. Thats why we dont see it happen.

[@chrisallen3333]

You have to have skill and talent in both. You are not playing in nfl if your skills aren't any good

[@tonywong8134]

Speed is very important in the NBA. But NFL players are tougher but much less skilled than NBA players. I think speed is equal in both sports.

[@matthewdennis1739]

@@tonywong8134 I think saying NFL players are much less skilled is silly. Football requires just as much skill as basketball, the skills are just different. Blocking is a skill, technique is very important. Tackling is a skill, technique is very important. I'd love to see an NBA player try to tackle prime Derrick Henry or try to block prime Aaron Donald. I'd love to see a basketball player throw a 50 yard bomb perfectly into a receiver's outstretched arms. I'd love to see a basketball player kick a 60 yard field goal. All of these things are skills and I think NBA players would have just as difficult of a time as NFL players would have shooting, dribbling, and passing.

[@EBIJunk-u6z]

To say all NBA players would quit once they took their first hard hit is just as ignorant as saying all NFL players do is catch the ball and run north and south. Some NBA players would get accustomed to the hard hits and some would quit. People adapt and I'm sure some NBA players would be able to and some would not.

[@Autobots12344]

NBA the level goes up in skill, The NFL goes up in mental illness savageness

[@IamBlackMagic03]

Nfl players are freakish athletes. You got guys running 4.7 40s, doing 12-13 consecutive backflips, jumping out of pools flat footed..... all at 260-280lbs. Show me nba players doing any of that at same size. Then add in the strength and power.

[@TOoLoUd89292]

NBA players wouldn't survive one game whereas a football player could thrive in the NBA it's different but Austin Rivers head is up his but.

I'm good at both, 99% of Basketball Players CAN'T play football. Most Football players don't have the skill/finesse and coordination to play basketball

[@davidhernandez2968]

I agree. Military, football, and mma go hand n hand. Different breeds of people. Hoopers are too finesse for a mans world.

[@IamBlackMagic03]

Nfl two a days training camps would break most basketball players. Also rivers refers to jimmy graham, tony gonzales, antonio gates playing basketball, but they never played in nfl. A lot of guys play multiple sports but only capable going pro in one. Then you have a julius peppers who played college bball and go to nfl. Charlie ward could have played nfl but opted for nba.

[@RJ-qs6nm]

This is one hundred percent because of how soft the league is now. When Joey porter and John lynch were ripping peoples heads off, nba players wouldn’t think they’d be able to walk into the nfl 😂 enjoy your soft league nfl fans, where anyone thinks they can play now. Sad

[@AdrianKendrick]

No matter what rule changes they made you still get tackled. Austin is wrong

[@RJ-qs6nm]

@@AdrianKendrick you get tackled - you don’t get hit anymore. Two completely different things. Hitting is pretty much out of the game. It’s literally a different sport now.

[@undisputedtruth4954]

Austin Rivers was an average-at best NBA player. He's extremely biased because he's only looking at the skill & athleticism. If football was strictly about skill & athleticism, TB12 wouldn't have made any team to have the chance chance to become MJ of the NFL. Brady has taken hits that would've retired the modern nba player, and Brady got up, talked his talk, and ran the next play; many times taking another vicious hit as he threw the ball. It's one thing to get knocked to the ground by contact, but it's something otherworldly to have 2+ guys driving you into the ground/turf. NBA players aren't rocked up enough to absorb those types of falls repetitively 60 times every Sunday. They won't finish week 1, if they get 5 of those over 4qtrs. I watched Shaq be acutely aware of the damage he'd cause by allowing players & fans to absorb his 300lbs + momentum. Imagine Austin on 3rd & 6 running a crossing route across an NFL LB's face? The Box Safety & LB are putting 490lbs of bad intentions on him the moment he touches the ball...and he might get moved toward a 330lb DT who just turned. NBA players don't want that kinda "physical". They're not conditioned for that level of violent punishment, snap after snap.

[@bagelboy4234]

Basketball players have incredible endurance, gross motor skills, and hand-eye coordination but most lack the explosive athleticism to play in the NFL. Running on a hard surface in sneakers is a lot different than running on turf in cleats.

[@JourdanChaney]

Football players get so emotional about stuff like that

[@arlondwilliams971]

Smart people get emotional dispelling nonsense that's caught traction

[@matthewdennis1739]

Well, if someone is putting down what you dedicated your life to and that person has no idea what they are talking about I can see that bringing out some emotions.

[@20Schmidt]

They seem to..agree

[@nhialor5321]

Jordanchaney is an idiot! It’s not about getting emotional rather the disrespect.

[@spoonbred]

NFL players are waaay more athletic than NBA players as far as strength and speed go....

[@PhoenixRising82672]

Austin got what he wanted and that's attention He's understanding how to get the algorithm up

[@Eujoung]

Austin Rivers is trying to make a claim that the best athletes play basketball. The best athletes in the US play football. The best athletes in Canada play Hockey. The rest of the world the best athletes play Soccer (Football). This has been understood for over 100 years. Why are these Dukey's (JJ Reddick) make these dumb takes?

[@robbyj13]

Austin is absolutely correct. The type of athleticism basketball players have translates over to football better then the athleticism of football players translating to basketball.

[@20Schmidt]

Overall..best athletes are in NBA (team sports), imo. Toughest physical sport? No question it’s football

[@MatthewSmith-lr8bm]

Lavar is in his feelings. The fact the someone like Mo Alie-Cox was a basketball player at VCU a mid- major a school without football yet has been in the NFL since 2017 is a testament that its easier to go from basketball to football. Besides alot of these NFL guys that played basketball in highschool don't have the measurables to play in the the NBA, hell Lamar would be a small point guard.

[@jfliguy]

This isn't Madden.

[@tonypassaretti]

And none of them could make the Major Leagues.

[@williamfahey4712]

They wouldn't make it through training camp

[@Harun-cd6jz]

If the NFL has gotten softer over time then wouldn't the same apply to the NBA? If guys in the NBA are load balancing from a non contact sport then they aren't making it in the NFL. Full disclaimer. The NFL is my favorite sports league, football is my favorite sport, and I played organized football growing up so I'm biased. But the sporting that I've always considered the closest to us would actually be hockey/NHL and not the NBA. It's just that we (black Americans) dont play much hockey so I dont have experience playing it in real life, but on TV, hockey looks like it is the nearest sport to football in terms of physicality and toughness not basketball or baseball.

[@edwardt7364]

Football is not complex

[@adriankendrick4281]

Just because they have rule changes you still get tackled. That is what makes it not a easy sport.

[@Timeculture]

The capri-sonne part is accurate at!

[@legendarynesian787]

NBA is more skilled? How? Dribbling and shooting? Alot of the NFL players in high school played multiple sports and were getting recruited in multiple sports other than Football, like basketball, track and wrestling

[@Daniel_Capital]

Lavar’s rant was so nonsensical and incoherent. He even mentioned bears (huh?)

[@ZMSportsnShorts]

Power forward probably play tight end in the NFL

[@TOoLoUd89292]

The athletes in football have played other sports like look at prime and Bo Jackson they played baseball which is a skilled sport only reason we haven't seen multiple pro athletes play both is because the seasons intertwine but at least prime and Bo were successful whereas Micheal Jordan was mid....

[@himgod6495]

If wolves still had rivers, Vegas odds of championship would increase by 40%???

[@20Schmidt]

If this podcast was hosted by former NBA players..the opinions would be very different. lol

[@anthonyray5713]

I listened to Rasheed Wallace and Bonzi Wells talk about this. They said the same thing these guys are saying. Bonzi Wells was an all conference cornerback in college.

[@tmc4rex]

Lol. Austin rivers is the wide out...your favorite NFL gonna run the ball to his side? Trust he is making a key block?

[@tmc4rex]

AD would make a great DE. Eh. Prolly not.

[@drlove994]

lol he’s right

[@gsp3428]

Its not even a contest, NBA players could not only play in the NFL, they would dominated the NFL with their combo size and speed and athleticism, they are half a foot to a foot taller and more athletic than NFL players. Its been proven with football players who played basketball, not one could play in the NBA except maybe Julius Peppers but all became superstar football players in the NFL.

[@DeezzzzzzNuts12]

You're definitely a couch potato

[@davidstewart799]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 what a joke! Julius Peppers was a football player who played basketball as a secondary sport the same with Gonzales and Grahm. Quit spinning it to fit your agenda

[@gsp3428]

@@davidstewart799 what agenda? Graham was a basketball player first who converted to football because he couldnt make it the NBA. Peppers had a much brighter future in football thats why he chose it and Gonzales could never sniff an NBA game.

[@jermaineswain3903]

The league made the game soft.

[@joev4643]

Ok so if it’s all about the money which it is. Why didn’t you continue with ball. You were nice and guaranteed money, don’t se the logic in that. It’s so dumb to compare sports it’s like comparing eras. You have to legit take into account every single variable. Yes most nfl players might have played high school but if you’re a certain height the school would gladly take you

[@cotati76]

Very few players in the NBA play defense. You can land a 747 in the lane mow. How many times a game do you see the guy with the ball completely blow by a defender that wasn’t really trying? That happens every game all game long.

[@Bobbleheads56]

They are both just actor leagues at this point

[@iamdebaby8152]

The wouldn't need load management. The NFL plays one game a week. U get hurt u have a week the heal. And what % of nba players actually load manage? I feel like that's not as common as y'all think.

[@THESBARTIS]

Naw bro the injuries these guy are getting are way worse. They're playing with fractured ribs, sprained ankles, brused bones, broken hands, there's a reason nfl players get addicted to pain killers they really out there playing hurt. Nba players sit out because they're sore

[@iamdebaby8152]

@@THESBARTIS they can play with those things because their jobs don't require them to do that much. Everyone only has one job. And nba players play injured all the time. Andrew Wiggins played in the playoffs last year with a fractured rib. Nba players dislocate their fingers and pop it back in all the time doing the games.

[@THESBARTIS]

@@iamdebaby8152 have you ever done anything physical in your life. You trippin

[@klohr311]

Just say both league are soft..lol..most nba guys will be special team player and play as gunner.

[@hb3041]

Lavar got beat by his wnba girlfriend 😅

[@GrumpyCat8000]

Ppl act like Charles Oakley was this great player, all he did was foul more than the average guy, u don't think if Zion Williamson was allowed to foul ppl he wouldn't break ppls necks in the 80s, seriously if they let lebron foul ppl like bill lambeer nobody in the 80s would survive him

[@maybe1time281]

I agree and disagree. Yes, Zion has the size to bully people. No, Zion is always hurt. If he was playing in the NFL or the NBA in the 80s or 90s, he would always be hurt.

[@CourtneyMiller-ui8xp]

🤔💬So were your guys's comments about the Deshawn Watson Saying that he was a trust fund baby Those were pretty ignorant comments as well😳😳😳😳😳

[@chrischilds7693]

😮

[@nhialor5321]

It ain’t easy making an NFL roster. Ask The Rock, Bill Goldberg, John Cena and Steve Austin to name a few. How disrespectful to assume any cats in the NBA will be able to play in the NFL. There’s a reason y they’re in the nba.

[@HighTopJop]

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