Lavery's MTB Vlog - Episode 15 - Specialized Turbo Levo Comp vs Carbon Comp Comparison

[@martymcfly6098]

Got a few rides on my alloy comp and freaking love it. First ebike and riding long technical trails and not being smoked is great. Still adjusting Mission Control settings.

[@LaveryMTB]

That's awesome mate, they can REALLY handle the technical stuff

[@billryan8721]

Same bike here for 6 months and agree.....it's a good one other than the garbage brakes. Thanks for the feedback on the damper upgrade, it's been on my list.

[@LaveryMTB]

I think the stock codes are good brakes, I just prefer the bite point adjust in the RSC's

[@hwy88forever38]

I have the alloy too and would also choose it again. The carbon bike looks great but I couldn’t justify spending another 20% for the display and weight savings on an already heavy bike with a motor.

[@LaveryMTB]

Yeah that's pretty much exactly the way I looked at it

[@hackgolfer7352]

Great bike, what light have you got fitted to the front? Thanks

[@LaveryMTB]

It's an Outbound Lighting Evo

[@hackgolfer7352]

@@LaveryMTB Thanks mate, enjoying your content.

[@hackgolfer7352]

@@LaveryMTB actually should ask if you're happy with it? Thanks

[@LaveryMTB]

@@hackgolfer7352 I absolutely love it

[@JeepingNet]

I was thinking about getting the carbon comp but then saw the carbon pro with the 38 grip2 and better brakes but now thinking about getting the alloy comp and throwing on the 38 grip2 and better brakes for much less. Great video and great bikes! I've always had alloy bikes so feels like the winning combo for me. Totally agree about the cushcore and I run that same light setup, its amazing!

[@LaveryMTB]

It's definitely good to lay it all out in a spreadsheet and weigh up the costs of each model with the components you'll change 👌

[@JeepingNet]

@@LaveryMTB I've got two spreadsheets on the go and even a selection scoring system. This alloy version certainly allows me to add the exact parts I want and still be a bit cheaper than the Pro. However the 2023 Pro is near perfect for what I'd be wanting to build. I might just see what is in stock come 2 weeks when I'll be purchasing. Thanks!

[@Andyange]

So glad I found this video. I’ve been trying to decide between these 2 exact models. A shop in Melbourne was doing the comp alloy for 9400 and the carbon comp for 10900. Not sure if the extra 1500 is worth it for the mastermind?

[@LaveryMTB]

For me, I wasn't too worried about Mastermind. It is a beautiful thing though and and gives you some quick on the trail adjustability to get more out of your battery using micro tune. Another thing to bear in mind is the carbon model has slightly better brakes I'm very pleased with the alloy model

[@Andyange]

@@LaveryMTB hi thanks for getting back to me. If I get the alloy comp model is it better to upgrade the damper or the whole fork?

[@LaveryMTB]

@@Andyange I would always say it's better to upgrade to a new fork but damper upgrade is a good cost effective option

[@Andyange]

@@LaveryMTB Ok thanks what fork would you recommend?

[@LaveryMTB]

@@Andyange there is a lot to consider when selecting the fork. It depends on the type of riding you do.

[@Donovanhikes]

Great video thanks for sharing. Question, can you leave them plugged in when not using?

[@LaveryMTB]

I generally unplug mine once it's charged. I like to charge, and then discharge, and repeat. To be honest, I'm not sure if my way is the best way though

[@videodrm8080]

Loved watching this. Where did you get the fender for the back wheel? I looks very Levo specific?

[@LaveryMTB]

The rear Fender is a 'Sico MTB Products Mud Guard', I got mine at my local bike shop

[@egimessito]

thanks a lot for the video. It would be great if you could write down the upgrades you did especially on the fork which I didn't understand. Thanks a lot very helpful.

[@LaveryMTB]

Thank you, All upgrades are detailed in the description of the following video kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4XNdIaabKZ6mMU

[@davewilliams4157]

The weight difference is actually under 600grams between alloy and carbon frame. I went with the alloy gen3 because it rides better in the gnarly stuff and weight wise you could say there was no difference… Had mine since December 21 and still love it every time I ride it.

[@LaveryMTB]

Thanks for the clarification 👌

[@slbynum]

I’ve got the same bike same color even the same rear fender lol. I have upgraded the front fork to Fox 38 grip2. I’m running the Eddie Current on the rear ( love that tire!) and DHF on front but plan on putting on the front tire version of the eddy current soon. At the bike shop before I even took possession, I had them put a clear bike wrap on the frame gloss version. It looks fantastic. Just as you, I would buy it again.

[@LaveryMTB]

That's awesome mate, it's such a great bike. I'd imagine it'd be pretty nice with the 38's

[@francoisroux5396]

Good vidéo Links for the fenders ? They seem very good for levo Thx

[@LaveryMTB]

The rear Fender is a 'Sico MTB Products Mud Guard', I got this from my local bike shop so you have to have a search for them The front Fender is a Fox 36 specific 'Syncros Trail Fender Mud Guard - MY16-21 Fox 34 / MY18-20 Fox 36 Boost'

[@hopperschoppers]

I picked up thr Carbon comp. Battery door busted off pretty fast but they warrantied it. Was curious what you think of the mastermind display vs the led bars? Have you adjusted any of the Geo yet?

[@LaveryMTB]

I've also warrantied a battery door. I use a Garmin 820 GPS and don't really have a need for the mastermind display. If i didn't have the GPS i would definitely want the mastermind display. I have adjusted the head angle to slack and the bottom bracket to high

[@hopperschoppers]

@@LaveryMTB okay. I'm looking at those computers now that you've mentioned them. They look pretty good. Thx. Did you get the newest design for the battery door? I just had mine done a few days ago, its now ia spring loaded door with a different hinge. Definitely doesn't seem that indestructible though but I think better, time will tell. It wasn't even my pedal that broke it in the first place.

[@LaveryMTB]

@@hopperschoppers mine was replaced ages ago, so old design

[@blakee9690]

What damper upgrade fits the Rhythm 36?

[@LaveryMTB]

I got the below but it's worth talking to the people at the place you're buying from to confirm cyclinic.com.au/products/fox-racing-grip2-hsc-lsc-hsr-lsr-36mm-damper-2021

[@That.m6]

Loved watching this. Currently stuck between whether to go for the same as you i.e. Cobalt Blue Levo or the Carbon Comp. Arghhhhh lol

[@LaveryMTB]

They are both really good options. It may come down to availability I'm glad you enjoyed the video

[@That.m6]

@@LaveryMTB Thanks. How about between a used Scott Eride 900 tuned (fully carbon and top of the range for 2020) vs levo ally vs levo carbon comp. 🤔

[@LaveryMTB]

@@That.m6 I can't really comment on the Scott Eride, as I don't have any experience with it. you'll have to do some research. I can see the Specialized Levo is a great choice though

[@V8LC100]

In the type of trails that you guys ride what runtime are you getting from the battery approximately? The sales guys are telling me about five hours does that ring true thanks.

[@LaveryMTB]

Five hours of battery runtime is a VERY broad statement. For example, If i do a ride with over 1000 meters elevation, approximately 40kms, running trail and turbo mode, with close to 2.5 hours moving time, at a guess, I'd think i'd have about 20-30% battery left The battery run time, is very difficult to measure in hours as there is a lot of contributing factors, how much climbing (elevation gain), gear choice, mode choice, weight of the rider, the surface you are riding on. If you were to run the bike in eco mode the whole time, in my above scenario, you would probably get somewhere between 3 to 5 hours run time. In my opinion, the Gen 3 Levo's have incredible run time I hope this helps

[@V8LC100]

@@LaveryMTB thx mate, yeah agree how long is a piece of string hey. 3-5hrs sounds good. Pick mine up in 2 days (2020 model) but can not wait! Can't afford new at this stage.

[@LaveryMTB]

@@V8LC100 you'll love it 👌

[@kountification]

Ruthy beginning I must say!! 🤪At what configuration do you prefer riding the turbo Levo...?! Also, does the paint scratch easily? Good stuff dude!! Oh yes, one more thing, let's say I would bring you an MX wheel Kenevo 180/180 single crown to try would you be excited? This is something I would definitely want to do!!!

[@LaveryMTB]

By configuration, do you mean the geo settings? If so, I run the BB in the high position and the head tube in slack I haven't bothered with any additional frame protection and the paint is fine. For me personally, I find the stock suspension fine, for the bigger stuff, I have my Specialized Enduro which is 170/170

[@mikewormsman]

What mud guards do you guys run

[@LaveryMTB]

Sico MTB Products Mud Guard - Rear Syncros Trail Fender Mud Guard for Fox 36 - Front

[@robbief1]

Have you had the motor replaced yet?

[@LaveryMTB]

No, mines still going strong

[@robbief1]

@@LaveryMTB - I really want to get one, but petrified of spending most of my time waiting for motor replacements..... seems it's a bit of a lucky draw

[@egimessito]

I have the comp carbon. I think the brakes and one step higher in spec too. BTW what size are these bikies - they look small. Like S2 or S3

[@LaveryMTB]

The Alloy blue is an S3 and the Carbon black is an S4. The brakes are the same on both the Comp Carbon and the Comp Alloy. I updated mine from Code R's to Code RSC's

[@LaveryMTB]

It's also worth pointing out that Specialized puts 200mm front rotor on the S3 and 220mm front rotor on the S4. I upgraded the front rotor on my Alloy S3 to 220mm

[@egimessito]

@@LaveryMTB from the specialized website the breaks seem differ. R vs RS. I remember I looked it up too when I bought it. Thanks Allory Front Brake SRAM Code R, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, S1-S3: 200mm, S4-S6: 220mm Rear Brake SRAM Code R, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 200mm Carbon Rear Brake SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, 200mm Front Brake SRAM Code RS, 4-piston caliper, hydraulic disc, S/M: 200mm, L/XL: 220mm

[@LaveryMTB]

@@egimessito hmm, it seems you're right. I thought the RS was only related to the guides

[@beniu985]

hello friend, is it possible to remove the battery!?

[@LaveryMTB]

The battery is removable to allow you to swap batteries or service components but I wouldn't suggest riding it without a battery in, if that's what you're asking

[@beniu985]

I meant if it can be taken out to charge it separately, e.g. at home;).... thanks for the answer 😁👊

[@isozero7265]

Is it an S2?

[@LaveryMTB]

Are you referring to the size? If so, the Blue bike is an S3 and the black bike is an S4

[@brianshea4906]

Buddy crop dusted a couple of leaf peepers as we dropped in to the bike park the other sounded like he sat on a duck…brought me right back

[@brianshea4906]

Lovely fart 🎉 …you’ve won a new subscriber

[@LaveryMTB]

Hahaha, glad you like it 🤣

[@JohnSmith-sj2dk]

surely you keep your microphone in your back pocket??

[@LaveryMTB]

I'm guessing you don't approve of the audio quality? 🤷

[@oldschoolp9838]

What type of headlights are those?

[@LaveryMTB]

I'm not sure on what you mean by headlines?

[@oldschoolp9838]

@@LaveryMTB sorry it was a typo. I meant to say headlights. 🤦‍♂️

[@LaveryMTB]

I'm using the Outbound Lighting Evo Downhill Package (Evo & Hangover). These are great lights

[@oldschoolp9838]

@@LaveryMTB thank you.

[@satyrsilence]

I picked the carbon , coz the color and finish of frame feels much better.

[@LaveryMTB]

They are beautiful 😍