Law & Order in Ancient Rome - The Law

[@InvictaHistory]

Following a community vote, I am happy to launch our first "How They Did It" season ever which will be covering Law & Order in Ancient Rome. Expect a new episode every week! Here is the list: 1 - The Law 2 - Crazy Roman Laws 3 - The Courts 4 - The Case of the Sacred Chicken Killer 5 - Policing Rome 6 - Roman Jails 7 - Peace in the Provinces 8 - Investigating a Murder 9 - The Issue of Egypt

[@Jakob_Herzog]

The case of the sacred chicken killer? Da fuq is that?

[@tomas19958]

Nice channel: here some other ideas:make more virtual tours , to rome and their horse speed race , corytnh , carthage ,and the baths of these 3 cities, teathers , and anfitheathers, and the constitution under platon.

[@lewistaylor2858]

awesome!

[@ajithsidhu7183]

Where is csi haratio

[@albinlindmark1383]

OMG yes please give us!

[@jasepoag8930]

Law and Order: RPU In the criminal justice system, plebian based offenses are considered especially heinous. In Rome, the dedicated detectives who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Romans Pleb Unit. These are their stories.

[@eofalassion]

Dun Dun!

[@bryanlee7295]

Bam bam bam bammm

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

Man of culture, I see. =)

[@dohnjoe4100]

Roman Plebs unit= Cohortes Urbanae

[@branimirkolarov3493]

Bruh

[@lvcivsfvrivsimperiosvs9466]

"Yes according to roman laws" Caesar : "As if there is any other kind of laws."

[@Musefan891]

"Seventeen thousand thousand Drachma"

[@flamixflame2685]

@@Musefan891 .

[@BaconHer0]

HE WAS A SENATOR OF ROME!!!!

[@Biggus_Nickus]

"HE WAS A CONSUL OF ROME!!!"

[@lvcivsfvrivsimperiosvs9466]

@@Biggus_Nickus "Shame on the ptolemies, SHAME!"

[@legateelizabeth]

With the ever increasing complexity, one might say that Roman law eventually became... Byzantine.

[@Crick1952]

*Budum tiss*

[@romeo-manny]

(^_^)

[@anthonyitaliano7316]

get. out.

[@vaclavcervinka65]

@@anthonyitaliano7316 no u

[@georgeptolemy7260]

Nice

[@HighAdmiral]

You forgot a step. After being approved by the Senate, you'd have to ask Tribune Aquila if he was OK with the law being passed.

[@brycekenney6751]

I understood the reference...

[@procrastinator99]

Historia Civilis?

[@bugzyhardrada3168]

Lol

[@paulallen579]

... yikes!

[@Frenchylikeshikes]

Maybe we should learn from the Plebeians: just all leave, refuse to do what we are expected to do, and demand fair changes.

[@tomh2572]

Strike

[@jmitterii2]

@Lazarus Zoolander Now it's called protesting and striking. Commies wouldn't allow striking, at least not the USSR or People Republic of China... like what is going on in Hong Kong right now. So nope. It's called fighting for your freedom and better living circumstances.

[@AnglosArentHuman]

@Lazarus Zoolander Have fun getting stomped on, snake.

[@LostArchivist]

There is a difference in the form of tge ubiquity of automated processes. It can not replace the people, but it can replace some of us.

[@davidec.4021]

People don't actually realise how much of our modern world and way of life we own to the Romans...

[@TomOostenrijk]

Some people don't, anyway

[@LordSesshaku]

@@SimonWoodburyForget Spoken like a true: "I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about". Laws are not inflexible and complex because they're as old as the roman empire. The Roman Law System is very different to both the common law and continental law systems. The reasons why Law are "inflexible", specially on the criminal side of law, are extremely more complex for reasons far more "contemporary" than you might think.

[@TheArklyte]

Yes, we sadly do.

[@baneofbanes]

Simon WoodburyForget You realize we don’t actually use Roman laws, right?

[@494949david]

no , because Europeans don't and never had any culture "giggle"

[@syahran1518]

damn, you can get death penalty for making diss tracks?

[@mrspeigle1]

We have slander and libel laws today, the penalties are just much more lenient. And this was an era of history when blood feuds and Duels to the death were a thing.

[@jmitterii2]

@@mrspeigle1 And the plebs and the even lower classes handled disputes often outside of the law still. Was kind of a gangsters paradise... or misery depending on how rich and how much you could trust your thugs.

[@MogofWar]

Look! When Italian extended families moved to America and began to reconnect with contacts who had also happened to transplant, the Mafia spontaneously generated as a result. Just saying...

[@gianalfredo2325]

Next episode: C.S.I Gaul

[@ajithsidhu7183]

Roman haratio will be there with his sunglasses

[@whiterosecicero4802]

ajith sidhu Finds a body crucified. Looks like someone has crossed the line Puts on sunglasses

[@jasepoag8930]

@@whiterosecicero4802 Looks like sombody got....NAILED. yyyYYYYEEAEEAAAAA

[@Taistelukalkkuna]

@@whiterosecicero4802 There is no crime here, just accidental death. He was in our Cross Fit program.

[@TheJPworld]

Better Call Gaul

[@lewistaylor2858]

The law is Rome's greatest contribution, it was remarkably advanced and formed the basis for all civil law jurisdictions.

[@lewistaylor2858]

@@OrangeCub14 yes I do, we still use it today, particularly law concerning property and delict. The presumption of innocence i.e. "innocent until proven guilty" is Roman law.

[@codysing1223]

The Emperor Protects

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

but a loaded -Bolter- ballista never hurt either

[@danielpavlick5006]

@@Big_E_Soul_Fragment Having been hit by a ballista, I can truly say that it doesn't hurt.

[@andresrivero783]

@@danielpavlick5006 stop calling dicks "a ballista"

[@rachaelsdaddontdrink]

@@andresrivero783 DAMN!!! That was hard!

[@overlordinquisitor6565]

Brother!

[@editorrbr2107]

As an attorney, I cannot thank you enough for this. So many of our professional institutions and institutional habits - from contract law to (generally) being clean-shaven in court - were copped straight from Rome. It is an historically conservative, traditional profession, and so much of the road show started in the ancient city. ...and I think most lawyers still have a bit of a boner for Cicero.

[@roberto8650]

Do you exercise in a common law country, civil, or other?

[@MCAroon09]

Today's law was sponsored by Raid: Shadow Legends

[@aGuS161292]

I actually studied roman law at university, it is easy to say that the actual civil law and many other aspects of the legal system are firmly based on roman laws and how they functioned although, yes, the actual legal system has evolved over time and is somewhat ajusted to the actual times.

[@bhavyalakhina5205]

1:55 In the initial days under Romulus the city could only grow by opening its gates to criminals

[@IllicitGreen]

Bhavya Lakhina and for wives/women they raped the Sabines

[@Stormvermin-bx1lh]

I guess thats where the roman tenacity comes from.

[@makky6239]

@@IllicitGreen it's probably just a legend

[@here2there880]

Augustus: "I will make it legal."

[@procrastinator99]

HE IS THE SENATE

[@stepbruv8780]

I AM THE RAWW

[@Camuska]

THE LLLLLLLLLLLLLLLAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWW

[@ajithsidhu7183]

Chow dressup as a roman

[@typoanonymous]

I am the ribbed

[@reddeath356]

Patrician One: Let's not cut the rabble in on our new government. They aren't well bred or important enough. Patrician Two: Yes, I totally agr- Patrician Three: Hey guys... Where are the Plebs going? Don't we need them to defend the city? Patrician One:... *Begins sweating*

[@andresrivero783]

Oh boy now that we have seen "the law" i cant wait for "the order" episode

[@Dire_Domino]

We need a Roman court show!

[@DoReMi123acb]

One of the greatest aspects of the western world is how they detailed and wrote down their long and storied histories and culture. This is easily one of the greatest achievements of western civilization. Plus, it laid the foundation for the modern world that we all live in.

[@r.p.4756]

How is this unique to the west? Persia, Asia, the Maya and many more did the same.

[@pomosophist6736]

Yah yah, water is wet too!

[@r.p.4756]

@@islamisthetruth3402 "3 centuries of eurocentrism ruined the meaning of history." What do you mean with that?

[@mybutthasteeth1347]

Good timing. Literally had a seminar on treason in the Roman empire today, and am covering this in uni at the moment.

[@LucidFL]

so thats where the word pleb, which i get called in call of duty lobbies, comes from. thanks romans

[@jmitterii2]

Funny, you would hear and use a word and not know that main origin. First time I learned and used the word pleb was play the first Caesar computer game. Essentially, it's Latin for peasant.

[@trla6505]

@@jmitterii2 so thats why why half of mexico call itself pleva

[@makky6239]

@@jmitterii2 my first was i don't know, we have the word "plebeu" in my language and i used to call the kids of lower grades like that lol

[@hugosetiawan8928]

How old are you

[@GarfieldRex]

Thanks God there were no further references to Law & Order. Can't wait to watch all How they did it episodes 😎

[@darthsidious6753]

Roman law started off by passing through two stages, the formation of civil law and the formation of the law of nations.

[@Big_E_Soul_Fragment]

I AM THE LAW

[@budmeister]

I see you are an Exeter fan.

[@jeckjeck3119]

I AM THE SENATE!

[@Madhattersinjeans]

I love democracy.

[@gameoflife9576]

@@jeckjeck3119 I AM THE ONE WHO WAS WAITING FOR THIS COMMENT

[@jeckjeck3119]

@@gameoflife9576 Still on the high ground, I see.

[@vincenzosaglimbeni1832]

I simply love your channel! As Italian and naturally really enthusiastic about the roman culture or period in general, I'm astonished that someone that isn't Italian is just as enthusiastic as I am about the romans. No mean to offend you though. Thank you so much for your incredibile work and effort to make these fantastic videos! Greetings from Germany

[@rickykrahn4959]

I'm American, and I gotta say Roman history is by far my favorite to learn about. That said, it seems as though history enthusiast are a dying breed here.

[@DimBeam1]

1:36 START

[@anon2427]

Over 2000 years later and this system of law is echoed in civilization across the entire globe

Rome maintained a very articulate list of laws and punishments for their infractions. This list accompanied Romans to outer territories during expansion. The enforcement of these laws and their punishments were well documented and recorded in Roman archives for future reference. Punishments were escalating from verbal rebuke to the most insidious, crucifixion. This being said, the level of the infraction determined the punishment administered to the offender. Minor theft, being perpetrated against a Roman citizen, could receive a first time verbal reprimand and ordered restitution. High crimes of gross theft, or murder of Roman citizens could result in being whipped, flailed, scourged or crucifixion. Scourging and crucifixion were a death sentence. Hardly anyone ever survived scourging, secondary to blood and body tissue loss, sepsis or shock. It should be noted here, a ordered punishment would not result in being scourged and then crucified. When any infraction of the law did not concern a Roman citizens or Roman property, the senior Roman administrators would refer the matters back to local authorities and sidestep getting involved for obvious reasons. Why be the bad guy for the benefit of the local tyrants to cast blame on. Make the locals deal with their own law breakers. Taking this entire situation into a more closer perspective Pilate, who hated the local Jewish population to begin with, would have NEVER allowed himself to be ensnared into becoming their bad guy. He would have popped that hot potato right back into their laps in a heartbeat and not got involved in a local law dispute. Allegedly, Jesus broke no Roman laws, did no injury to Roman citizens or property so therefore would not be punished under Roman law at any level. Now Barabbas, guilty of murdering Roman soldiers and civilians, gross theft and plunder of Roman property, would have been dead meat when he was captured and NEVER released in exchange for anybody. Barabbas would have been convicted and ordered to be crucified and pilate would have enjoyed wine and grapes while he observed from his field tent. The Romans were very strict and articulate with their legal matters and Roman administrators in the territories were no fools. They could be brutal when necessary but smart enough to never get involved when not their problem. Antiquities researchers should be more observant to the facts before getting mired, and blinded, by the fables.

[@steamedvegetables8195]

DownTown Brown 71 references? Sounds interesting

[@johndilday1846]

My understanding is that the Jewish leaders claimed that Jesus claimed to be the Messiah,who would be King of the Jews. This directly rebelled against Roman rule. The Jewish leaders also created a very real threat of rebellion, and if Pilate couldn't keep order in Jude's, you can bet that the emperor would have appointed a new governor who could.

[@alexanderchenf1]

We have a PhD here

[@Sigmar2025]

Reading Marcus Didius Falco and watching this video is great

[@miteor]

Beverly does a great job with the artwork 👍👍👍

[@Toshineko]

Roman citizens: My lord... is that... legal? Augustus: I will make it legal.

[@apostolispouliakis7401]

Please more Roman anything

[@abbieb8130]

"Power, once consolidated, is difficult to disperse." Amen.

[@saintouija6403]

I love law & order and Rome. This made my day complete ❤❤❤❤

[@Riastrad-hq6ds]

Thank you, not enough people talk about the Pax Romana and I really want to know more about it

[@cluckcluck6494]

No one: Meanwhile in Rome: *Law and Order sound effect*

[@gianlucaborg195]

Nice documentary. I am loving it. keep up the great work!

[@Marinealver]

Hebrews: We have The Ten Commandments Romans: We have The Twelve Tables

[@davidi5803]

@The NIFB Jesus no dumbass they were just the first 10

[@Taquese1999]

Cant wait to see the video about the Lex Aquilia and the humanization of the civil process.

[@VelocityZap]

This kind of reminds me of today's current American Politics in the Government. Hot damn, the similarities are striking.

[@baneofbanes]

Velmex Zorro Almost as if the Founders drew a fair bit of inspiration from Republican Rome or something. Anyway, it’s not just the US. Rome is the foundation of the entire West.

[@raphaelostrowski6336]

I don’t know if your kidding or not but this is kind of common sense

[@VelocityZap]

@@raphaelostrowski6336 sorry, meant to clarify on the part where he explains the turmoil part of the republic. Two parties, law twisting for better advantage, etc... Lol

[@martinan22]

There used to be a wikipedia page with the most elegant Brocards. Now it has been littered by including way too many. But I used to read the old page and marvel at the fundamental legal principles described there, most of them inherited from Roman law, no doubt.

[@joeroylemusic]

Yes! Been waiting for something just like this! So excited :D

[@justsomeguy3931]

Great work, as always

[@cferolie]

This was one of your best content and extremely important to a Roman

[@fabioferrarese5600]

9:58 hmm overlapping and complex laws, some things never change, right italy?

[@gabrielinostroza4989]

"Hello, I'd like a copy of permit 838"

[@scorpixel1866]

@@gabrielinostroza4989 The port? It's at the end of the road next to the sea.

[@overlordinquisitor6565]

1: No heresy 2: No xenos 3: Praise the Emperor

[@Dfathurr]

You should add the original law and order tone in every chapter for better sequence

[@ZBlue0]

14:30 It almost looks like the spread of civil and common law were influenced by the Roman/Byzantine and British Empires, respectively.

[@mrspeigle1]

If it works it works.

[@Man-O-Little-Tan]

Congrats they show your vids in my history class now

[@Rdasboss]

“Politicalnorms frayed until they were ultimately stretched to their breaking point”

[@jovanweismiller7114]

So many books, so little time! And I seriously doubt your sponsor 'distills' the books I'm interested in.

[@DCMarvelMultiverse]

Try Justinian's law reform and legacy.

[@devriestown]

You sir are doing great work.

[@qxrbil]

Hey, that stuff about the late republic was starting to sound like the US...

[@frankharr9466]

It's fun watching this system come together.

[@istoppedcaring6209]

well just look at mediëval europe, I am a history student, and pretty unique is that we have history of western european law, given by a law and history doctor, I noticed that many professors have oposing standpoints, but this is a good thing since history is far from certain in the grey areas, what is written down is rarely all the truth behind it, many times laws were recited over and over again in certain places, which can only be explained for more marginal matters as them not being lived by completely, and if the majority doesn't care what can they do, arrest all of them, put them all on trial?, no better to remind them of the rules, but even so, common law never came from below, rather influence from common practices wil have been there, but the determining factor was that judges declared it as such, which defeats the idea of laws forming from below entirely

[@nicholaszoelle6510]

Solid video and channel man. I would recommend diving yourself into the translations of the original sources.

[@lnstall_Wizard]

you made a good one here. thanks so much! need more!

[@nathanielkramer3092]

Who would’ve known this video would’ve become so topical

[@emirjusufbegovic4474]

Thank You so much!❤❤❤❤

[@RAZOR_1224]

*insert law and order meme here.

[@greggapowell67]

Your work is always exceptional.

[@BlasphemousBill2023]

Thanks, that was concise and informative!

[@voiceintheopen345]

Good work. thanks

[@procinctu1]

I was waiting for the law and order bass drop.

[@zach7193]

Boy, that was something. The title is nice. Added Rome into it. Well done.

[@jenicabunderson2451]

Great video! Thanks for making it. Question: after votes were placed in Rome's treasury, how did Roman citizens learn about the new law? Word of mouth? Was there some sort of centralized way to get the word out about new laws?

[@fclp67]

this sounds exactly as dysfunctional as modern law does, truly a magnificent legacy

[@Kalashinator]

Should've added the DUN DUN, but with spathas banging against scuta

[@roisin9401]

👀 👀 all those history books

[@ezralbs5157]

It would be really cool if you guys did a video on "static electricity" in the ancient world. Source material I'd probably very hard to come by but I've never heard anyone delve into this subject. You know it had to freak people out when they shocked someone or got static cling putting on a toga. If this never comes to fruition so be it. Just think it would be cool.

[@oanaalinafluieras443]

Super video!

[@sjappiyah4071]

Blinkist actually sounds super useful

[@MelonPython]

And this "law & order", was it through the whole Roman era or was it just a part of a century? Because he doesn't specify what time period it occured and a lot of things happened during those 800 years..

[@jagvillani338]

In the third video on The Courts, could you comment on the portrayal of the courts and justice seen in the Rome television show after Pullo is arrested and tried for murder?

[@PauloRobertoMarinhodeAlm-hi9mm]

Excelente aula.

[@biggvshavtivsdickvsii8541]

These videos take me back to 33 A.D.

[@philipklemow8082]

Keep them come I like this kind of stuff

[@paulquintanaf]

I was expecting the *dun dun* sound 😔

[@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939]

Plebeians: finally we get the respect we deserve Britain: shut up pleb

[@jmitterii2]

US, EU, China, entire world really: Oh ain't that cute.

[@jedimastertitaniumdickmana2939]

Are you ripping on me or something

[@callanadamwilliams8200]

In the Roman justice system, the people are represented by two separate but equally important groups: The Tribunes, who represent the people, and the Senate, which makes the laws. These are their stories. DUN DUN

[@htoodoh5770]

Lol

[@Rahavin1]

Skip to 01:38 to get past the advertisements

[@JRGProjects]

CSI Alexandria *Sees a gutted slave at a rich senator's home" *Puts on sunglasses* "It appears somebody was a sacrifical lamb" YEAHHHHHHH!

[@DavidJohnson-xr2rz]

I didn't realize the extent to which the modern world was planted on the foundation of the Roman Empire.

[@alexroselle]

Lex et Constitutio: Mens Rea

[@ryanmalone9544]

Great video

[@karlbergman4870]

Love this

[@223Drone]

Up next CSI: Rome.

[@geekinutopia5899]

3:00 the latter point still holds true today.

[@adamtyniec9154]

You've done a great job explaining Roman law which is hard to understand mostly due to the lack of sources. Nevertheless I feel obliged to clarify two things you've mentioned but not described properly as I think because of making this video simple to understand. First of all at 4:47 you talked about "death penalty for singing abusive songs". Well...translating latin literally yes but it was written to regulate all kinds of words that may insult other citizen. Especially those which where spoken. Secondly I'm not sure but from the beginning romans where writing laws on the "tabula" which was a board made of clay not wood so twelve tables should also be written on the clay tabula but as I say I'm not certain about it. And finally you didn't mention about praetors and they big role in jurisprudence since they were able to publish edicts which were the main source of law after XII Tables. Praetor had three main task to do with law. To assist ("adiuvare" which mainly means to interpret), to complete ("suplere") not ideal XII tables and to correct ("corrigere"). Also they decide about argument between citizens if it is even worth to argue about what they...argue. The role of judges wasn't so important in early republic and empire as it was in the late empire and when the supervision of law was take over by bishops of early christianity. But anyway great video and I will subscribe for more ;) And sorry for my English....

[@buu678]

You should a video on byzantine law

[@darek4470]

Mistrzowski materiał .

[@alimohtashimkhan2711]

Please explain five legal acts of Roman law.

[@evershumor1302]

Nice, a new sponsor company.

[@miltonthomaslowe]

Did the Senate functioned in Rome after the last emperor?

[@AdmiralBonetoPick]

Starts at 1:36

[@legoshi7350]

Omg the thumbnail is so

[@piotrgrzelak2613]

Invicta is wrong early on. In Indo-European societies priests have always been a higher caste than secular lords

[@piotrgrzelak2613]

@Derek only because the emperor had the highest religious power as well, technically they were priest-kings