Caught in a Conspiracy - Law & Order

[@homework1992]

“How many points will you be worth in prison, son?” ICONIC.

[@metal87power]

It'd be a good startup for real criminal activity and his inmates' respect.

[@karazor-el6085]

@@metal87power He's only tough when his opponent is a young woman half his size and strength. Six months in prison, he'll know what tough is when he's become "the good time that's had by all."

[@karazor-el6085]

Runner-up: "Tell your FATHER what you did to Cory Russell." His father can't even look at him.

[@jayfirepokeboy]

In prison probably 50, 90 if he crys

[@corssecurity]

Passed around like a party favour.

[@shadowcouncil9570]

"Here's our hall pass" Godamit Lenny, that's why you're my favorite. XD

[@lady_gale]

I just like how teacher goes, “Oh”

[@chr970]

EST character in the entire series.

[@chr970]

Best make that.

[@seanmaher3518]

It’s a great hall pass

[@geocross237]

@@lady_gale Sounds like this has happened before.

[@therealrvasinger241]

I love the kid's father. 1)Shut up. 2)If I have to tell you to shut up again, you will remember. 3)Ethan....TALK!

[@5Mariner]

I like him too. Instead of coddling his son and treating him like a victim, he's FORCING his son to own up to his role in this.

[@Suthek]

Ethan: "Shae bragged about i..." Dad: "I told you to SHUT UP!"

[@uofc57]

But you can see Kincaid is uncomfortable with it - the father seems almost abusive (not that it excuses the kid’s behavior)

[@94hawaiijedi]

I thought the father was going to slap him upside the back of his head.

[@jaxcoss5790]

@@94hawaiijedi 😂😂😂

[@athroughzdude]

"These girls give it away!" Well I think we see where the boy got his views on women from.

[@Solider7]

Did he lie? There were a bunch of girls there. The fact that one of them went back on her consent doesn't change that she was there in the 1st place. Still, from what was said about what happened, including from Shane himself, he should've known that he was crossing into criminal act.

[@demsochimbo5383]

@@Solider7 except consent is literally the only thing that matters.

[@tatertot7112]

@@Solider7 crossing into a criminal act? And men wonder why women done like them?

[@Solider7]

@@tatertot7112 That's ok. Most women in America are being rejected anyway. Enjoy your cats, we'll be sure to invest in cat food stocks.

[@geocross237]

Imagine if SVU was around this time. Fin: "Did Monica 'give' it to you your first time?"

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

The thing is even though he confessed, it's clear that Shane still thinks he did nothing wrong. Like he just said he did, cause he had too

[@jdrancho1864]

So what difference does that make?? He'll have a felony record for the rest of his life.

[@HeronCoyote1234]

@@jdrancho1864 and get a taste of his own medicine in prison.

[@XTheCrystalBeastGuyX]

@@HeronCoyote1234 And have no future or understand why he was held accountable for his actions.

[@geocross237]

He's lucky SVU wasn't around this time; Benson and *_Stabler_* would put the fear of God in this punk.

[@angelorobledo1536]

What's worse is his dad doesn't think he did anything wrong either. The proportion of boys and men who find this behavior acceptable seems to climb on both ends of the income curve

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

I love how his Dads threats didnt bother Ethan, but when McCoy told what it would be like in prison he starting singing.

[@intldawn]

That dad is a G. Kid is almost a head taller than him and he cowed immediately

[@erikhayes3515]

Old School!

[@MsGothlover]

What's a G?

[@inferics3602]

Not a G...a bully

[@therealmrfishpaste]

@@inferics3602 So if someone in authority insists that a person under their authority does what is moral, just and ethical....they're a 'bully'?

[@channell11]

@@MsGothlover Gangster.

[@PeytonCarpen]

“That’s great, you get an A for self-esteem!”

[@strategicsage7694]

Love that exchange between McCoy and Schiff.

[@lucycapprabelle7494]

"EXCUSE ME CAN I HELP YOU?!!!" "Here's our hall pass" *"oh..."*

[@artboymoy]

I remember Claire being aware of Jack's relationships with his past assistants and Jack taking notice, but there were bits in other episodes that made me wonder if they took it further than co workers and friends. That's what I love about OG Law and Order, it really was story centric but we got bits of character histories that rewarded the viewer who came back every week.

[@rabbitsfoot8]

yeah jack and claire had a fling..he was truly heartbroken when she got killed in that car accident

[@electroskates2434]

(TT)

[@gbonkers666]

Yeah, they mentioned it in one of the future episodes. I loved when they first met and she told him, it's not going to happen.

[@Iamkcs2c]

I like that the character side story was in dribs and drabs. SVU is often a soap opera.

[@engg84]

It's funny looking back at episodes and they're always discussing cases alone over dinner or drinks 😄

[@Panwere36]

The worst part of this is that this is (like far too many of the worst cases) is based on real events.

[@senoramariposa]

Yes, there was a real life high school group in California called the Spur Posse.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

@FRANCO PEREZ Actually, most cases was partly or fully inspired by real events - even if they sometimes (especially in SVU) went backwards to hook you into the famous case and then flip the script halfway through to keep you guessing.

[@ZarkowsWorld]

@FRANCO PEREZ It is exactly the same. maybe English isn't your native language?

[@emerybayblues]

@@senoramariposa I remember them b/c they appeared on some talk show(s), bragging.

[@emerybayblues]

@@senoramariposa en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spur_Posse

[@midnightsunrocks]

I know it's fiction, but it's heartwarming to see rapists face justice. Wish it happened more in real life.

[@tedcomet3121]

It does

[@powerboon2k]

Are you a police officer or lawyer doing anything to help or are you just sounding off in the comments without any actual first hand knowledge of what you're talking about? We already know the answer.

[@JR47846]

@@tedcomet3121 it doesnt anymore they get away if they are imigrants or sons of them or if they come from a certain religion...... just look at sweden or uk

[@AndyBluebear-fi9om]

@@JR47846 What an asinine comment that isn't based on any fact or figures, just regurgitated talking racist and xenophobic talking points.

[@JR47846]

@@AndyBluebear-fi9om oh yes so there isnt any cases of sa where they got away because of their religion and culture? like Adil Rashid

[@alcd6333]

I always like when dad tells his son to shut up twice, then a minute later, "Ethan....talk!"

[@bradleybrown8399]

Um. Two DIFFERENT conversations?? 🙄

[@feeltheillinois]

"thats great you get an A for self esteem" LOL

[@nicholasmaude6906]

I don't care if it's in SVU or the new upcoming series with the return of Stabler I really, REALLY want to see Christopher Noth back as Det. Logan (It's a shame that Jerry Orbach is dead because IMO Logan and Briscoe were the best cop duo in L&O).

[@heatheryovanoff6361]

My favourites were Briscoe and Green.

[@iheartscaryclowns]

Christopher Noth was the reason why I started watching Law & Order.

[@mikepeterson764]

He already had his second run and rode off into the sunset on Criminal Intent.

[@antmagor]

Nicholas Maude did you ever see him when he was oncriminal intent?

[@nicholasmaude6906]

@@antmagor Yes and I was very happy to see him back in the L&O universe:).

[@Sunny105121]

09:13 Flipping his hat on as they walk out of the office with the music intensifying. Nice touch.

[@kirstinmorrell]

I agree. :) Made for a nice tableau.

[@Warped9]

Nothing beats classic original Law & Order!

[@captain_hat6247]

3:24 "What difference does it make?" *IT MAKES A WORLD OF DIFFERENCE*

[@davethomas543]

That gymnasium sure is smokey

[@rakishaeverett4636]

I love the beginning of this clip. I just finished my paralegal A.S. degree. I'm going for my B.S in legal studies now 🙋🏾‍♀️

[@tiffanesmith7482]

I have a bachelor's degree in law from john jay college

[@azizakaheyify]

Good luck and congratulations 🙏🏾

[@awalker8371]

Good luck you’ll do great

[@trevormoses5061]

4:31 Nice warm smile from Steven Hill.

[@mikeg8375]

When I first watched these episodes with McCoy and Kincaid (seasons 5 and 6) I did not see anything that led me to believe they were having an affair. The writers have said it was happening though and it was eventually referred to in the Season 9 episode" Sideshow"... But now armed with the knowledge that they were indeed having an affair, you can see subtle hints in these episodes that they were more than just co-workers. The bar scene here is a good example. I dont remember him meeting any of his subsequent assistants at a bar in any other episodes after Claire's death. And the dialogue to me indicates that they were not just meeting to discuss the case. Regardless, this was a great show. And I think the season 5-6 era were some of the best episodes. Brilliant writing and acting. TV for intelligent people.

[@katherynemero4118]

I can't remember which episode it was, but Claire was wearing a leather jacket. I don't recall thinking they were having an affair either. Watching those episodes again, it was rather obvious. They both changed.

[@fever_spike]

Pretty sure the reason we never saw him meet any other ADAs in a bar after Claire’s death is due to the fact she was killed by a drunk driver. I also think her death likely changed his attitude overall regarding having affairs, the one with her likely being his last.

[@annelally]

He eats and drinks with his assistants all the time! There are scenes in which he and Serena drink in a bar and debrief about the case, and we often saw him and Connie eating lunch in a restaurant together!

[@MondoBeno]

I worked at a school like that. Rich parents who pay their kids way through life.

[@eldiesel4593]

A school? It's like 5,000 schools and a few countries.

[@indecisive.325]

Jack's newspaper: "Are wild trout important to you?" They are now

[@rrenee501]

Thanks for that. Couldn't catch the headline in the cozy light of Jack's office.

[@samueltabo3390]

The episode was based on a group of Lakewood high school guys in southern California called the Spur Posse. I lived near their in the 90s

[@arifakyuz7673]

5:12 The girls' reactions are priceless

[@geocross237]

They probably think it's a mistake because surely that pretty boy can't be a sexual deviant.

[@GosieKin]

Hang on a sec! Is Shane played by the actor who portrays Carlisle in Twilight??

[@TheCaptainJade]

👁👄👁 oh my god you’re right

[@FrankWolenczak]

Yes, he also played Van Strummer on Fox's Fastlane, and on Supernova

[@InkAndPoet]

I thought he looked familiar!!!

[@marshajulessa2995]

Peter Facinelli.

[@TheWarBird01]

Wasn't he in Nurse Jackie?

[@dino.jay2007]

Oh, how I loved the banter between Adam Schiff and Ben Stone/Jack McCoy ... it was integral to the show ... but they lost their way with it in the later years ...

[@jbevan4411]

Logan and Briscoe were always my favorite

[@scottlambert2949]

Lenny brisco was a great actor on the show

[@powerboon2k]

Kincaid in those silk shirt/pants suit combo...she was in a class of her own.

[@rpannier]

Mr. Quinn (the father), "I told you to shut up!", then "If I have to tell you to be quiet again...", then "Talk!"

[@NatReyes961]

Fun fact: the actress who plays Corey is Monica Keena from Freddy vs. Jason.

[@thejoker9330]

Ethan was also in Romeo and Juliet with Leonardo DiCaprio and John Leguizamo and Claire Danes.

[@amykay2781]

Thank you!

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

I've seen him in other stuff too

[@lilvicwinters]

Law and Order and law and order svu started a lot of careers

[@eldridgedavis]

Ikr

[@gabrielleheaven1266]

carlisle cullen from twilight was definitely cute when he was younger !!! amazing ^_^

[@madmike8525]

Sounds like those boys will be taking a trip to Attica.

[@ryang183]

fun fact: the guy who plays ethan also plays reggie in season 2 of law and order organized crime.

[@indecisive.325]

so THAT'S where I recognized him from oml

[@defunctdefunctdefunct]

W Dad! Holding his son accountable whilst still protecting him.

[@jeanetteschock4744]

Love these shorts RIP Jerry 😢❤❤❤

[@shalashaska9946]

McCoy was unbelievable to that victim

[@allanfifield8256]

Very well done!

[@eoinboru]

I'm interested in the article on the back of McCoy's newspaper "Are wild trout important to you?"

[@JennyZinaTavares]

The constitution...that pesky thing. One of my favorite lines and I use it often.

[@grimreaperfearsmesostopthe4955]

Jordan Cavanagh from #CrossingJordan!!!!! 90s babies where you at

[@electroskates2434]

Wasn't crossing Jordan in 2001?

[@robertphillips6296]

I really miss this series and I wonder how any series involving the NYPD set in NYC will be able to be produced?

[@Ezad99]

Well we still have Brooklyn 99

[@Ezad99]

Well we still have Brooklyn 99

[@Ezad99]

Well we still have Brooklyn 99

[@muffassa6739]

It's still on TV on WE

[@infonut]

This episode always seemed to lack an ending. I was always waiting to hear about the wife/mother pushing her S.O.B. husband off a building.

[@tintinismybelgian]

Why do that when she can sink him with alimony?

[@tedcomet3121]

You can tell the shut up dad loves his son as is beyond disappointed

[@katherynemero4118]

There were far too many episodes like this on Law & Order. And it's seriously upsetting to even contemplate what it means.

[@beepboop9464]

Hate to break it to his parents their kid is also a sparkly vampire.

[@KatonNeko]

Shane is gonna change his tune once he meets the big boys in prison.

[@neilkurzman4907]

I’m pretty sure the script ends. These are not real people there’s no one to actually go to prison. All the actors moved onto their next jobs.

[@CH-pv2rz]

Gosh Neil did you figure that out all by yourself?

[@PIXPromosMore]

I think we're ALL losing sight of the REAL Issue here...Are Wild Trout Important to You? (5:18)

[@indecisive.325]

Lol I noticed that too

[@themanfromearth76]

dont like the idea of granting full immunity to a snitch in order to win a case. guy still did something wrong after all.

[@rrenee501]

Who was the other one McCoy said got time also? Wasn't he the snitch? Cuz McCoy believed he could make the conspiracy case without him, and didn't want to offer immunity.

[@KingDeathscythe666]

this felt nostalgic as hell, my old HS used to have a football team that they were so proud of and practically worshipped the players. back then I used to make bank buying & selling everything from answer keys & weed to info, all kinds. junior year, I heard from one of my best friends that the star QB raped a freshmen and was bragging about it to everyone. long story short: I cashed in every favor owned and the whole team is still on life support while she's getting paid

[@grayj7441]

I really don't have any tv shows that I watch. Honestly Law & Order was the only reason i had a tv at all.

[@HotForgeChaos]

Man that's a young Carlisle Cullen right there

[@MMuraseofSandvich]

7:18 "I've never heard of him, he's a liar." Gee, that sounds like a certain self-styled "billionaire" real estate guy with several bankruptcies.

[@jamespfitz]

To you. But I'll bet a lot of things remind you of him.

[@asnowballinhell]

Shane reminds me of the guy from 'American Psycho'.

[@nicholasmaude6906]

Sigh, rewatching this clip I miss Jill Hennessy as Claire Kincaid as she was my favourite ADA, she had beauty, brains and a nice caring personality with a strong sense of moral integrity.

[@kirstinmorrell]

Drinking from the same glass? They were soooooooo sleeping together. :D

[@electroskates2434]

🤣

[@Maanyaaz]

Is this the young Mr. Cullen?

[@Shadow2006-y7v]

We can’t forget to point out that Kyle Winters is played by Shane McDermott, who was also Mitchell Goosen in Airborne (One of my most favorite nostalgic 90s flicks)! I’m digging the ponytail hes sporting.

[@JR-bj3uf]

Why do i get the feeling that at the end of every episode they have just wasted their time.

[@jamespfitz]

Because human beings are far from perfect

[@yesterdayitrained]

@@jamespfitz : Great response! Even if they win one case, they know there’s thousands more lined up and waiting to be tried. It never ends. And the justice that is meted out- it’s only an approximation of real justice.

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

Some episodes felt like that

[@jaycievictory8461]

Benvolio! 🙌🙌

[@DrownedInExile]

Punk kid's going to have a bad time in prison. How many points is he going to be worth?

[@jimbeer2]

I'm sure he will be pimped out for smokes....lol

[@otaviofrnazario]

@@jimbeer2 for qwrack (my best Stephen A impression) too

[@michaelbatson1879]

I just looked up what the "Dawson case" the appeals court was referring to. It's a 1992 U S Supreme Court case entitled Dawson v. Delaware.

[@bradleybrown8399]

The thing I liked most about this seties is that sometimes, they didn't win.

[@fasteddie4145]

pretty kid.....he'll be a really popular in Attica....

[@theoeguia3302]

He will never go there. Rich get away with crime

[@tyj8955]

A young Carlisle

[@FrancesLewis-x1c]

I really like this show good indeed

[@o-O426]

Takes a lot of nerve to play the criminal on these kind if shows

[@perrylasmarias9460]

4:45 the Draft in a Nutshell

[@toastnjam7384]

I just watched this episode yesterday on BFLIX

[@marcusfarrow]

If I have to tell you to shut up again you're going to remember it. That is a real dad.

[@SuperGreatSphinx]

The ❤ of a father is the masterpiece of Nature...

[@Xs2...]

"I don't think we'll have to." Now that is a line for the people that follow L&O for a considerable amount of time / the people with logic reasoning.

[@vladtepes97]

And this is why inmate 11780 and and all its henchmen have to keep each other company in a holding cell.

[@chinabuzz]

These clips are misleading. The blurb states that "Law & Order" can be streamed on Peacock. It can, but not these early seasons. Only seasons 13 onward are available.

[@varunhebli]

How many points do you think you'll be worth in prison son? Chills.

[@ronfroehlich4697]

The Constitution, "that pesky thing". That's what the ruling class actually thinks like.

[@antmagor]

Ron Froehlich that’s what happens when a small joke gets in the water supply.

[@WiGgYof09]

You realize he was being sarcastic, right?

[@foxt.5043]

Lmfao edgelord

[@exiledhebrew1994]

@@WiGgYof09 no he wasn’t

[@jayo_z]

5:17 ARE WILD TROUT IMPORTANT TO YOU?

[@Butterfly-ue1ph]

Peter Faccinelli as a kid thank you!

[@mariaibarra5883]

Oh, wow. I should have guessed that;

[@MsWarriordiva]

That father is a piece of work. 😡

[@kapnerad]

Law & Order SVU was conceived from episodes like this probably.

[@DanielMcGillis-xs6rt]

The boys that are not involved and now thinking: "Wow, I am really glad I never became friends with those guys."

[@Solider7]

How appropriate it is that the boys were told to step up to the foul line, because they definitely fouled up.

[@maxcardun]

I actually saw this one when it was new.

[@johnnythao]

This case reminds me of the scandal back in "03 when I was still a 14 year old living in the Suburbs. Some boys all over the school were removed from class one by one all though out the day without so much as a "Why?" and were all sent to sit in the ISS room all the day as we past by hour after hour and wondered why they were all still in there. It didn't take long until everyone noticed that the all the boys that were removed from the classrooms were all from the same click of friends and that they were all being accused of SA. To this day the victim(s) have never been revealed to the public, but back then we had our suspicions, due to certain individual never to be seen again in school along with those who suddenly became "home-schooled". Some of the boys ended up coming back to school, but the one who never did was said to have gotten sent to a detention center to serve time. About 16 years later, having already forgotten about that scandal, until I ran into one of those boys in the city. I remembered that "He" was one of the boys that never returned to school. There I was talking to a registered SO(I looked it up), finally learning that it was him after over a decade.

[@metal87power]

A plot of every romantic colleague comedy twisted on its back... oh, wait, that what would actually happen in reality! xD

[@heyysimone]

"Shut up Shut up Talk" Well the kids confused now

[@rick7424]

It's like a traffic light. Don't walk, don't walk, walk.

[@AmyLynnRiley]

It's Dr. Cooper from Nurse Jackie!!

[@cordingdesert9566]

Remember 50 no's and a yes, mean yes. Wait a minute.

[@CherryBlossomBlyue]

Right! Like that doesnt make sense

[@andrewrollinson7739]

And that young man grew up to be a supreme court justice.

[@seanwebb605]

Jack drank at work all of the time.

[@tatertot7112]

2 years? You can get a worse sentence for weed. Our system is fucked.

[@JeremyRobbins-b1n]

Big Time.

[@ftdefiance1]

Not reaching through to that kid

[@foolslayer9416]

They can beat it into him. I like that idea.

[@spaghetti1641]

He knows what he did was wrong and he violated her. He bragged and wanted double points for it. He knows. He just doesn't care. The only reason he didn't want to admit it isn't because he didn't understand, it is because he didn't want take responsibility - and wanted to keep doing it.

[@aliali-ce3yf]

he should watch Stand and Deliver

[@Zoiqk]

8:00 he looks like Mr. Cullen as a teenager

[@justchill6424]

Boi I remember when he told that kid to shut up

[@vitesse_arnhem]

Kincaid is so cute

[@gpeescalante11]

I World lo ve to watch whole chápters