WI v. Theodore Edgecomb Trial Day 3 - Evangelina Cleereman - Victim’s Wife Part 2

[@srg5058]

This Judge rules! Love him - the defense attorneys are quite creative and have skimmed the line of right and wrong on numerous occasions - - and the Judge sees right through it.

[@jnnlis]

The “choose wisely in the cafeteria” is the first little glimmer of humor/humanity in the judge. Lol.

[@farcry808]

"Facebook is part of the downfall of society" 🤣🤣

[@audreymai2773]

He has a dry sarcastic sense of humor. I like him. He doesn't feel like he needs to be fake.

[@audreymai2773]

@@farcry808 It is true.

[@jnnlis]

@@farcry808 that was funny. Then we got a Go Packers a few times. The guy is over life! 😂

[@brucesmith1544]

@@farcry808 these judges love to showboat when they know the camera is on

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

I recently lost my husband to cancer at 35. His wallet is one of my most important possessions. It was something he had on his body everyday, all the time. It was something he touched everyday, all the time. Besides that, her husband was just shot & murdered by a stranger in the street, whose to say he couldn't also be robbed by a stranger in the street. Implying that she didn't love her husband of two decades by she grabbed his wallet is sleezy.

[@jerrodlumpkin7132]

Ikr,, the defense made you think she met the man last month,, very sleazy. And sorry for your loss

[@msreneedenice5046]

Yes I understand that and have compassion for her, but it’s seems like she’d be afraid because the man had his eyes on her. Me… I’d be afraid he’d shoot me too. Ijs imo 🤔

[@pumibel1720]

I am sorry for your loss, and thank you for sharing this perspective. I have been critical of Mrs. Cleereman, but I don't think any of her actions after the shooting are nefarious. She was in shock.

[@jerrodlumpkin7132]

@@pumibel1720 can’t lie, I half-believed Mrs C was in on it,,, I miss Florida cases

[@pumibel1720]

@@jerrodlumpkin7132 Yes! When I first heard the basic outline of this case, I was like, "hmmm" too. Florida does keep us entertained!

[@mal5678]

He was gurgling?? I thought she determined he was dead when she first got to him? Also, it takes a few hours for a dead body to get cold

[@April-sp8un]

Glad you noticed that too. Gurgling means some air still and body doesn’t get cold that quick. Wonder how much life insurance this guy had she’s looking forward to

[@CNP_24]

💯💯💯

[@zim2107]

lmao she lost me at cold too...she tries to answer questions correctly for "her case" rather than honestly

[@chrisdee9620]

I went nuts when she said that lol believe me I KNOW what happens to the human body!She don’t rub me the right way something is not right 😒

[@Itsjustme115]

This judge is the most disrespectful person iv seen in a court room

[@SoulforSale]

I know who you voted for

[@ImSoReadyToRetire]

I agree. Very disrespectful

[@RemainWoke]

100%

[@jeanmariechopin5080]

Oh boo hoo

[@Dee.Michol]

This judge is definitely biased. There’s no way this is a fair trial - I’m actually disgusted by watching his attitude.

[@jcadult101]

@@helen6191 He comes off as awful, how is he "biased against the defense".

[@DW-oe1vx]

There is a clear bias this case will probably be retried if there's a conviction which doesn't seem likely given the evidence

[@fieryweasel]

There were some shenanigans from the defense in pretrial arguments, he's already not pleased with them.

[@audreymai2773]

I am disgusted by someone who can punch someone in the face and disgusted by someone who can shoot someone in the face, killing them infront of their partner of 26 years!! That is disgusting!!!

[@SoulforSale]

@@fieryweasel they only have ONE angle of defense

[@-GamerPaigey]

I like this judge he take no bs. The Defense have been muppets from the start. If I was a judge I would be fed up of them also.

[@zanpsimer7685]

This judge is unhinged for no apparent reason. I wonder if he should buy his skivvies a size larger. And who cares what you think of Facebook? It exists and your opinion is irrelevant.

[@JoMomma]

The judge is unhinged because the defense is less than professional at times

[@lisagoodin2959]

@@JoMomma he's pretty unhinged to the jury and court also

[@robmullin1128]

The defense team keeps pushing through despite the many criticisms they have received from the judge. I have watching this trial just to see the interactions between counsel and the judge.

[@kathy411]

Same… it seems like the judge has a real issue with the defense counsel. I imagine if this defendant had this judge rule his case he’d throw the book at him

[@CharlieDexter99]

Of course he has an issue. The defense team turned thier paralegal into a witness by approaching another witness and pretending to be a police officer. And that’s a felon! The defense team are idiots!!!

[@AnnaMorris411]

This is just…WOW!

[@brucesmith1544]

Judge seems autistic or something

[@fieryweasel]

@@kathy411 Watch the pretrial arguments, they tried to pull a number of things.

[@GeMiniTheQueen]

girl...who gets punched in the face and says hey buddy, i should go talk to him? O the same person that said "what the heck!" girrrrllllllllll

[@ttpryce672]

What's wrong with this judge?

[@ktk2094]

Judge Judy on steroids!!

[@creativejeans9983]

He didn't get enough hugs as a kid who knows.

[@cee_bee5439]

He seems to just hate life and everything about it. Facebooks fault apparently.

[@singingtheblues1]

wish we had school & college teachers like this judge - we'd live in a better society

[@sealb.5295]

This jugde is just horrible! I think he has a sad life!

[@delorescampbell2899]

He's very bias!!! Smh! This shouldn't b allowd

[@robinflood7334]

His personality is not like able but as long as he’s fair

[@SimplyLolly]

This judge is a complete arse. He’s even nasty to the jurors. "Jury OUT. Follow my bailiff." ("Nobody stand or make a sound in my court!!" Before anyone did anything 🤷‍♀️) There’s nothing wrong with being direct & keeping order… but be a decent human being while doing it. 😤😡 -I can only imagine what dinners are like with him & the Rittenhouse judge… 🤭 yikes!!) 😝

[@jnnlis]

That was incredibly disrespectful. The jury should be respected for their public service.

[@creativejeans9983]

IKR I can't help it though he makes it entertaining at how much of an ASS-H he is like maybe he's just miserable and hates everyone on both sides I'm not sure lol. LOL Rittenhouse judge says to him: "Don't get Brazen with me!" Anytime they have a dispute I bet....

[@sharonnorris6280]

Hangover

[@SimplyLolly]

@@jnnlis Absolutely!! Without the jury… you don’t have a trial. (unless it’s a bench, but you get what I mean) Personally I love it when everyone in the room - including the judge - stands when the jury enters or leaves. Its about respect… which I don’t think this judge has much of.

[@SimplyLolly]

@@sharonnorris6280 But everyday?!?! Hmmm… with as much as he appears to “love” his job, you’re probably right. 😝

[@kopking3936]

You Don't have to be cooky and miserable to have the control of the situation in this court room

[@SimplyLolly]

Her "fogginess" makes it seem like she’s afraid of saying the wrong (in favor of the defense) - I mean geezy peezy… you know that’s YOUR vehicle!! And what *contact* & *consumes* means… 🙄

[@Lysiasprings]

What an emotional judge.

[@robmullin1128]

She is his wife! If she wants his wallet she can grab his wallet! She doesn’t have to explain that!

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

But we are allowed to look at her sideways for it and question her motives. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[@Concur450]

So true. She may have needed some connection to him as she just realized all connection was lost for eternity. What else could she have gotten, maybe a phone, I guess? Although no one has mentioned a phone yet. Maybe someone she was speaking with on her phone in the car told her to get his wallet for proof of identification. If I had witnessed a loved one die I would have problems recalling the exact words, events, or reasons for my actions. If it were a violent death I would probably block much of the event out.

[@Eyerusalem_]

Really ?

[@danielleong1865]

A police officer I know said he lost his daughter in an accident caused by a fireman who was speeding to the scene of a fire. His daughter was killed as her car sat in traffic, waiting at a light. The firemen and emergency personnel who attended his dying daughter stole all her jewelry, which were several gold bracelets ("tuna cans" with Hawaiian words or names), gold necklaces with jewels, earrings, etc. Those are the physical tangible reminders they want to have, as they see them in their pictures of her on the mantle. With this in mind, I'd try to remember to secure personal items of a loved one to ensure nothing is lost or stolen.

[@julesb3118]

This judge appears to be an emotional abuser, bully and narcissistic! Wonder how he treats his partner, if any?

[@cindyking9535]

Why? Because he doesn’t allow nonsense in his courtroom?

[@VivianTradez]

Judge is a sucker. He needs to get his emotions and biases under control. Stick to the rule of law and procedure - that's your job.

[@DeeHarris713]

So first she admitted to the State that he asked her to drive just to be on the safe side since he had been drinking. Now she’s saying he told her to drive because he was tired? Her contradictory statements, selective memory, and evasive responses are really making her lose credibility. I wonder what impact this is having on the jury…

[@zenamen5221]

I agree. In addition to that - the judge is OUTTA THIS WORLD INAPPROPRIATE. Sorry not yelling just emphasizes.

[@audreymai2773]

Umm..I think seeing your husband of 26 years get shot and killed point blank in the face would make things a little blurry.

[@DeeHarris713]

@@audreymai2773 Umm…I don’t think it’s that simple. She’s strategically answering these questions, and blatantly lying about what she remembers. But hey - you don’t need me to convince you otherwise. 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@davidkinney7638]

I said earlier that the judge is making me mad over is demeanor but now I admire the judge because he takes no bull off anyone. Keep straight your honor.

[@DeeHarris713]

@@davidkinney7638 ok…

[@profiler403]

The defense sounded so confused and vague asking questions.

[@SoulforSale]

They only have one angle. The n-word.

[@JessyA86]

They are the WORST at asking questions. Not to mention that their actions throughout the trial have really damaged their credibility. The judge is right to be over their nonsense.

[@Eyerusalem_]

He is asking the right question this witness is not telling the truth and the judge is nasty

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

This judge needs a blunt or a drink, something. 😆 Wtf Judge, or should I say "what the heck"?!

[@stevengallant6363]

This judge needs to go to Vegas for the weekend with a little bit of Coke and some prostitutes ... on Monday he would come in with a much better attitude

[@creativejeans9983]

That or an enema who knows but something!

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

@@creativejeans9983 😂🤣

[@shayshay2068]

Dudes needs a lay i wonder how he feels about tinder since facebook is obviously a no go.

[@GeMiniTheQueen]

The prosecution team, on multiple times, walking around during questioning and testimony is fckn BAFFLING!

[@jax6521]

And not knowing what she’s gonna say. Weird. Like not prepped as a witness

[@GeMiniTheQueen]

@Smokey Bones na, not when the DEFENSE is up. Prosecutors don't just be walking around between and in front of defense during questioning

[@GeMiniTheQueen]

@Smokey Bones it was tech once. Other time it was going to the trash can. Other time they're opening a pop can. Not only this video. This is the video I typed it on tho lol

[@GeMiniTheQueen]

@Smokey Bones perhaps I'm trippin buuuuut

[@EllisInWonderland.]

This judge has the poorest attitude I have ever seen in a judge. He seems to be very miserable. Angry with the WORLD! I hope he doesn’t have a family at home. If so, we can imagine how he treats them. Maybe he should have been a drill Sargent instead. Such a disgraceful representative of the court and of that state! Then again, that state seems to have many problems in their judicial system, particularly within their police departments.

[@stellaphillips646]

The judge don’t want to here nothing from the other side wow bad attitude

[@zdwade]

Lol you don’t want a judge who enforces procedure you know like a judge. You can’t introduce evidence by saying it’s available online. You have to source it so the defense prosecutor can question it.

[@juneaskew6871]

THIS JUDGE IS UNUSUALLY NASTY AND DISRESPECTFUL! IT SEEMS PERSONAL TO HIM. SOMETHING ISN'T RIGHT HERE!!

[@blackswan7572]

judge "Facebook is part of the downfall of society" lmao!

[@colleenlally-ross7105]

That's the most accurate thing I've heard from the judge 😂

[@mg55-n1l]

He's correct

[@ErikS-]

15:55 "He was dead! His hands were purple! He was gurgling. He was COLD." - Her husband was JUST shot moments ago. So how on earth can his body be already cold? How can his hands be purple?! And gurgling?!

[@michaelholshouser6248]

Ok so basically the judge finally passed the last kidney stone during that side bar. It's the only explanation for his lightened mood.

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

😂

[@Aajilon]

😂😂

[@photowarriorfundamentalfre3526]

She just got BUSTED in a lie about his reason for having her drive home, she previously testified that he asked her to drive to be safe BECAUSE he had been drinking, now she said no, it was just because he was tired. He was heavily impaired; DRUNK, looking for a fight ...and how is she unclear about her long time husbands use of marijuana? LIES ...one minute her husband swears, next he doesn't? Get it straight lady.

[@cleew8762]

Exactly. She's trying to dance around the fact that they were in the wrong first drunk driving

[@Eyerusalem_]

She has been constantly contradicting her self

[@MickiD255]

It's very RUDE of the Judge and everyone not to stand up for Jurors. This Judge is very rude and disrespectful.

[@holdontight1981]

this is his court room, bruh

[@allissa9802]

@@holdontight1981 that doesn’t mean he can’t be at least a little bit respectful, bruh.

[@BeRightBack131]

@@holdontight1981 every other trial I've watched (lots of them) the Judge stands for the Jury. In a Jury trial, they're more important than the Judge.

[@florenceglenn4627]

It’s his court room. He makes the rules. Want a different rule? Become a judge

[@danielleong1865]

I watched the judge thank the jurors at the end of a day of the trial. He was respectful.

[@sprice9964]

This judge hates his life!

[@fishingpinky3165]

Nope...you hate your life...just because people...ie judges dont have the personality your prefer....you hate on them. So what if he has a RBF...get over it.

[@sprice9964]

@@fishingpinky3165 oh shut up!

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

This is one manipulative "witness". If she saw him purple, gurgling blood, why would she ask the cop if he was ok? You need his wallet to "hold onto something of his", yet your precious husband that you love so much hasn't even breathed his last breath yet. Why not hold onto him???? As soon as she gets questioned about these non sensical things, she gets defensive, playing the victim, using her trauma to defend her lies.

[@jnnlis]

Utterly ridiculous and unbelievable to think in a moment like this she would worry about grabbing his wallet. I think that’s a story they cooked up so that the defense can’t say he brandished a knife. She probably thought he might survive and since he was a lawyer didn’t want him to be caught like that with a weapon. Just speculation, but still.

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

@@jnnlis I agree with your speculation. I like the defenses hard work but can't stand how bias the Judge is towards them. He really gives them a hard time.

[@Gabisfortnight_]

And to say his body was cold? Bodies dont get cold until hours after death..

[@margie3389]

TheMetamorphosisofGipsy, I sincerely hope that you have never lost anyone you love in such tragic circumstances. You don’t know how you would behave and then have to relive it and have your very words, actions, picked to pieces is despicable.

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

@@margie3389 This is a court room, sweetheart. Leave your emotions out of it. You're definitely entitled to your opinion though 🥂

[@eleanoraquitaine2966]

Rigid opinions are not a good look for a judge. Not good at all.

[@fortylovestyle2789]

Defense: Is this the vehicle you were driving? Wife: There are many Kias. Geezus Christ. If I was on the jury I'd be so annoyed. The wife is a LIAR. And the defense lawyers are not qualified to try a murder case.

[@kerryadams9100]

That is one hard a$$ judge. He has a real bad attitude.

[@sharonnorris6280]

He needs a shot of😂

[@stefanheyns3711]

I absolutely love this judge! 🤣 Ashley's gonna need some new pants.

[@Eyerusalem_]

You need that much attention?

[@SweetPea112]

This judge is ensuring that in the case of an Appeal, everything is in order. He knows the law, and he's seen what can happen in Appeals Court. He's not messing around!

[@Eyerusalem_]

Can you explain that?

[@sprucey3270]

"Facebook is part of the downfall of society" - Judge

[@stevengallant6363]

This is the most disorganized trial I have seen in a long time what a Gong Show

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

Have you noticed that thrown together "courtroom"? What strange set up.

[@stevengallant6363]

@@themetamorphosisofgipsy yeah that's the oddest courtroom setup I've ever seen

[@czarcasm451]

@@themetamorphosisofgipsy Totally. And the way they have to pick up then set down that laptop to show the video exhibits, the time stamps of which seem to be all a jumble🤪

[@SoulforSale]

It's part of the 400 years of systemic oppression

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

@@czarcasm451 From the set up of the courtroom to the judge, this is a mess!

[@becausealienz2437]

The wife's testimony is very evasive and it makes trusting her story difficult. She even did it at points with the prosecution.

[@mslalahopwood5]

Very evasive! Her whole demeanor makes me feel like she is hiding something.

[@darlagower2729]

@@mslalahopwood5 The #1 reason a person would run up to a body and take stuff from the pockets and then hand them to another vehicle is when it is an illegal substance and he definitely used the "N" word.

[@fkngr8]

You people are something else. I can't believe you all have little to no compassion for this woman. How tf do you think you would act, how well would you remember events, how much would you remember, after just watching your spouse be shot in the head? I hope you never have to find out how you would act or how much or what you would remember, I promise you wouldn't do as well as you think you would.

[@becausealienz2437]

@@fkngr8 get over yourself. You act like someone can't be commented on for their testimony.

[@fkngr8]

@@becausealienz2437 you get over YOURSELF calling a woman who watched her husband get shot face evasive. She answered every question and if she was confused by the question, she asked for it to be repeated. You can comment all you want, but so can I. If you don't like someone to disagree with you and point out that you come across like you have no sympathy for a woman who watched her husband be killed, then don't comment publicly.

[@robingardella6240]

Judge cracking me up!! I’m scared of him, and I’m way down here and it’s like three days later!! Yikes 😮

[@Maxi7442]

😂😂😂

[@bethlouden971]

Well here's her First lie/exaggeration. ..in NO WAY would he have been cold 6 seconds after being shot. AND if he was gurgling he probably had SOME blood circulation which again he wouldn't be cold

[@tggt2939]

This is THE WORST judge I’ve ever seen in my life and I watch a heck of a lot of trials! He should be thrown out! Unbelievable

[@angeldobosh1991]

Agreed. He is awful and clearly biased. He IS setting the defense up for appeal though.

[@lisapaniale9449]

He is so angry about everything.

[@tggt2939]

@@lisapaniale9449 right! And it’s everything the defense says or does 😡

[@tggt2939]

@@angeldobosh1991 Most definitely. Did you know that in a previous trial he locked up a defense attorney for rolling his eyes and putting his hands up when the judge completely disregarded him in court. This guy clearly has it in for defense attorneys!!!! He should be removed and disbarred

[@joelleziele3971]

This whole trial is a hot mess, which is it.? They did say it or they didn’t? They were there or they weren’t? How can this be a fair trial if everyone involved is lying? No wonder why the judge is so frustrated…..

[@christinerodriguez9479]

This judge needs a Snickers

[@chrisdee9620]

LMFAOOO 😂🤣😂🤣😂 OMG 🍫😂🍫

[@AnnaMorris411]

Judge: (sneering) “There will be no doxxing social media content in my courtroom!”

[@daniellebitzer304]

ETA: I take back my original statement. I continued to watch the trial and have a better understanding. The defense is about clear as mudd in his questioning. I would be just as confused as his wife

[@cleew8762]

He has to break it down in baby steps because she doesn’t seem to know if that’s her car or if that’s the man on the bicycle. She said she didn’t sit in the cop car with Garrett. No. Nope, then the defense is like ok roll the tape. Then she says, oh waiiitt maybbeeee I diiiiid.

[@valenciahardy7386]

Danielle are you commenting on the right trial?. Defense is clear as clear can be, she's making up lies and pretending not to remember and can't understand baby language. She remembers when prosecutor ask a question. It's her fault her husband is dead because she was in control of the car since he was so drunk and not feeling well. Are you going to fight or go home after drinking too much?

[@valenciahardy7386]

@@cleew8762 exactly I'm surprised she didn't say I don't if I was there.duh, yeah it maybe I was there.

[@cleew8762]

@@valenciahardy7386 She even has the audacity to act like the tape isn’t real. Then when she says, “well I added the cuss words because nobody believed me”. Would that be because you have history of telling fibs ? OBJECTION !!

[@ErikS-]

Defense is doing a good job! His thorough questioning clearly showed that the woman was lying! Talk about a just shot husband that was already cold and had purple hands.

[@shandrag6329]

His body was cold and his hands were purple within 30 seconds of death? Doesn’t make sense

[@jannymazing7762]

Surprised she didnt dispute the autopsy report 🙄 Mrs. "Foggy Memory" [when she wants to]

[@fishingpinky3165]

No one deserves to die like this but we know she is lying for her deceased husband. He obviously had a temper...otherwise he would not be dead

[@jannymazing7762]

@@fishingpinky3165 it's just sad she just didnt call the cops or just drive home & leave it alone. Following someone in this day, in this world...nothing GOOD would have come from her drunk husband 'confronting or talking it out' with a stranger at that!

[@mytellthomas2088]

So let me get this right you grab his wallet instead of holding in to him you looked at his back to see if he was dead but left him gurgling to go call your ppl

[@momandthegirls]

Right I can’t wrap my head around it either..

[@rmaharaj2798]

@Cherie Morgan it doesn't sit well w me either. I'm so confused.

[@Eyerusalem_]

What was her reason?

[@bowlingbbabe]

He wasn't gurgling he was already dead..do you understand how shooting in the tzone works? It is instant death...

[@40shorty91]

She happy he's dead, she called her side dude and not the police

[@kparks2995]

The fact that she was in control of the vehicle probably weighs on her heart. You knew ur husband was drunk. You should have never made that turn

[@ErikS-]

Okay, we all have seen biased and impolite judges. But this judge is a class in its own... This judge does NOT belong on the bench. The way he treats the defense counsel should be reason for dismissal of this judge.

[@twinky511]

WOW! He's the TRUE definition A hole!

[@florenceglenn4627]

Actually you don’t have to be watching this… grow up little grasshopper

[@smurfmonster]

This judge is so biased it’s unreal, she also seems to be going out of her way to be awkward answering the defence questions. This trial is a shambles and needs to be re tried with the judge that sat in the Chandler Halderson trial (the guy that dismembered his parents) now THAT’S how a judge should act. He was impartial the whole way through and simply made sure the law of evidence was being upheld by both the defence and the prosecution. This judge gives the impression that he doesn’t want to be there and that the defence is simply irritating him!

[@brendapoole8490]

This judge is clearly showing how bias he is toward the defence team. His attitude and demeanor when addressing questions from counsel Lamarr is harsh and intimidating. Judge, please treat all councils with the upmost respect in the courtroom.

[@jerrodlumpkin7132]

You “feel” this judge is a big ‘ol meanie. The judge from the other trial was warm and cuddly.

[@lov3dogs68]

This is the judges courtroom and he can do as he pleases. That said, I am pretty sure he is frustrated at the waste of time and money this trial is. I would be grumpy, too!

[@smurfmonster]

@@lov3dogs68 😂 very true!! 👍🏻

[@NKTB210]

She definitely seems to be answering awkward on purpose.

[@CharlieDexter99]

If I was the prosecutor I would be asking “if the driver of the car hit the defendant on the bike why didn’t he say “hey you just hit me” instead of “were you talking to me?” So clearly she didn’t hit him, that’s a lie, and he was mad the victim hollered at him.

[@teresathayn5170]

Yeah, it's obvious the defendant has zero self control! I think this entire mess is on his head!! It's horrific!!

[@joni8090]

Defense is also going to say: Victim pulled a Knife on him and that his wife put it back in her husband's pocket ? Remember this Perp has been on the run for 6 months prior and he's had plenty of time to ' dream watch media etc !?

[@chunk2596]

@@teresathayn5170 The wife is NOT truthful ..case OVER!

[@CharlieDexter99]

@@chunk2596 lololol how about that verdict. Get yo riot errrr larceny and arson gear out. Steal mad burn time right!?!? 😂😂

[@awright119021]

@@CharlieDexter99 oof your prejudice is showing

[@DW-oe1vx]

Married for 23 years to a pothead but never seen them smoking?? that don't sound right. I feel like she's unnecessarily lying about small things

[@bowlingbbabe]

Maybe he used edibles... Or drank some CBD something or another

[@bettyjoscookin3847]

I actually like this judge!!! He is running his court room like a judge should. Who wants out of control lawyers???

[@amandalewis2415]

I agree

[@Eyerusalem_]

They weee out of control!

[@thekaerichtexas]

This lady is killing me with painfully slow foggy testimony. I'll be glad when she is excused

[@praxis0214]

Can we agree we don’t care what she remembers? Geez. This is painful to watch.

[@ChillingOut247]

Oh man, I thought I was the only one. She's so slow.

[@themetamorphosisofgipsy]

She's slow because she's lying 🤥

[@stevengallant6363]

I agree but it don't really matter what happens in this trial because Theodore went on the run for 6 months and when he was arrested he gave a false name to law enforcement... That proves guilt Beyond a reasonable doubt in my eyes... guilty of first-degree murder

[@jcadult101]

@@themetamorphosisofgipsy About what?

[@chunk2596]

The wife has sudden memory loss lol...She is just SHADY! Liar Liar her pants are on fire! WHY LIE? If she keeps drinking that water each time she is untruthful, she is gonna pee on the stand !

[@mal5678]

I feel like this judge thinks he's in a high school classroom

[@markthomas3730]

why is the Defense council using the word "axed" instead of the proper word, which is "asked"

[@shayshay2068]

Ever heard of accents?

[@bradenv9592]

5:43 he showed his thoughts and opinions about “FB being the downfall of society” which makes it easier to guess what his feelings and thoughts are on other things. This guy needs therapy for his attitude and sentiment stat.

[@lov3dogs68]

Judge was wrong about Facebook being the downfall of society. It is Twitter that is the downfall of society! ;)

[@MinimalistCouch]

lol its judges like this is why theres no such thing as a fair trial

[@cocosthoughts8]

Omggggg he’s so mean and nasty - the judge

[@jamming8148]

The problem with the questions from defense is that he is asking them for confirmation to leave little room for inference from the jury. He has to ask better questions

[@lourdesornelas4954]

The defense team is awful.

[@photowarriorfundamentalfre3526]

@@lourdesornelas4954 ...are you kidding me? They are eating the prosecution and this witness alive; revealing her to be a liar with her contradictions and evasiveness.

[@lourdesornelas4954]

@@photowarriorfundamentalfre3526 no, I am not kidding. He is awful.

[@Eyerusalem_]

He is asking the right question under a lot of pressure this judge is a piece of work.

[@Sunset89712]

The defense did a good job! They did better then the prosecutor and honestly he would still be alive if they didn’t go follow him I understand he got punched but they should call the police instead

[@jannymazing7762]

The side bar seemed to calm the judge a bit, my guess is a shot of whiskey did the trick 🤞🏾🤷🏾‍♀️

[@photowarriorfundamentalfre3526]

Don't know why, but she is lying about stuff.

[@Kbooty46]

Yea

[@sarajevoh1986]

Judge: Facebook is part of the downfall of society. lol!

[@spatton55]

What do you call an attorney that graduated at the bottom of his class? This defense attorney. He can’t even use proper grammar.

[@SoulforSale]

It's basic ebonics you bigot

[@pamzjamz1]

@@SoulforSale … What is “basic Ebonics?”

[@pamzjamz1]

… or it could be someone who can’t put two sentences together correctly.

[@SoulforSale]

@@pamzjamz1 it's a higher form of communication than just clicks and pops

[@goldengilmaky6788]

The deceased was a lawyer riding a washed-up KIA. Let that sink for a moment.

[@cindyking9535]

Omg!!…I love this Judge he is no nonsense

[@jannymazing7762]

The judge is making it hard to watch this trial, I know a lot of judges and I've never seen a judge conduct himself in his courtroom like this. Actually I have once and it didnt turn out well for them

[@B3ARCAT]

Where did you go to law school?

[@korihagerud4624]

Ok I’ve just started watching this ( haven’t heard of this case ) can someone tell me why he punched the man . Did the man say or do something to him ? What am I missing ? Thanks

[@jcadult101]

Her testimony is that the cyclist road out onto the road in front of their car (from the sidewalk) causing her to swerve. The husband said something like 'fking azhole'. They get stopped at the light and the cyclist comes up and says 'who you fcking talking to'. Cyclist punches him through the window knocking his glasses off his face and across the car.

[@lisaz9820]

@@jcadult101 how do you know what he said? i thought it was "what the heck" which im sure it wasnt .. but where did you hear what he really said? everything is muted out :(

[@jcadult101]

@@lisaz9820 "Her testimony is that"

[@magnusopus4461]

We ALL KNOW she's lying. Defendant said her husband called him the N-word and he asked him who he was talking to

[@TalibanAtrocities]

@@lisaz9820 listen to the police recordings for the several different accounts the wife gave regarding what was said

[@jannymazing7762]

Funny how she remembers her police friend being there right before they are about to load up the video, why is she coming off as lying until prove is shown. The 'I don't recalls' are lies, at least 8/10 of them are. 'What the heck' smh

[@elizabethbathory6144]

I bet she REALLY regrets driving after Edgecombe now. I think the Judge is a little biased towards the Prosecution. I wonder if they offered the Defence a manslaughter plea?

[@danplaysbass6294]

Regardless of the case and facts, is it just me or is the defence really bad?

[@fishingpinky3165]

No but your spellin is bad....hehe

[@Eyerusalem_]

It’s you!

[@carrow1057]

Why is this woman obfuscating?

[@lthelookernonna787]

I Love Love Love this Defense Attorney

[@cee_bee5439]

Guess we were spoilt with an amazing judge in the Chandler Halderson case. This judge is a disgrace.

[@KRDos_Aus]

The judge in Dante Wright's trial was great as well.

[@fishingpinky3165]

Why...I love him.

[@gbitdot]

He is super efficient and no funny business

[@reignman4529]

A disgrace? Because you think he is mean? LMAO OK..

[@glenwood680]

This judge is biased 🙄

[@dawnschaeffer5728]

Hopefully I will never find out, but I believe I would have to be peeled off any loved one's body in the event of a murder. While I feel compassion for the wife, perhaps her experience with an attorney for a husband caused her to act against instinct during this ordeal. Grabbing the wallet seems odd though - did she think someone was going to rob him?

[@brucesmith1544]

well you might want to get those things before they haul him off to who knows where

[@Mandy-nt2cs]

It's so traumatizing.. the body and mind reacts in utterly odd ways. I would say she was in complete shock and quite a bit of denial. My husband dyed slowly, painfully and so very tragically at 35 from cancer.. recently. While he lay in my living room unresponsive on hospice care, I couldn't bring myself to have the goodbye talk with him. One, because I didn't want to scare him in case he could hear me somehow.. and two because I still couldn't believe it was happening.. and I still somehow, somewhere had hope that some miracle would happen.. I felt like of I told him bye, told him all the things I needed to say.. it would seal the deal and end my hope. Now of course I so deeply regret all that I didn't say.. but at the moment, the denial was, I believe, the only option to keep me sane. Her mind hadn't even began to process that 10 mins ago they were having dinner and taking the scenic route home.. and now he was laying dead with a bullet to the face from a stranger. The adrenaline and the the shock no doubt kept her calm I would think.

[@Maxi7442]

I too couldn't accept the fact that my partner was dying after a tragic accident. I was terrified to touch him, and terrified to even see him...I literally could not. Have been suffering survivors guilt for years. I absolutely adored him and can empathise with this woman. I also think she may not have had access to money, credit cards, ID etc. and in that moment her husband's wallet seemed important.

[@SkybabyandStar]

I don’t think that’s strange at all wanting his wallet

[@BarbB_in_TN]

I think that I might take the wallet but not just to have something to hold on to. I feel that is a normal thing. But maybe I wouldn’t in that case. Who knows.

[@shayshay2068]

Think the defense team just graduated lol they werent prepared, why is Ashley just now printing out evidence? They need more practice but the judge is being pretty hard on them

[@bowlingbbabe]

This extremely incompetent

[@chrislancaster1982]

I love have a beer with this judge

[@Roozy_Persepolis]

The defense is doing all the objections so that if the verdict goes sideways, they can use them at the appeal. They will make the argument that if the judge allowed us to allow them, the verdict could have been different. The defense is actually doing what they can do even if a judge gets mad and/or disagrees.

[@danielleong1865]

After the jury found Theo guilty, the judge walked through the testimony of each key part of the trial before sentencing Theo to 25 years in prison. The long monologue was done to explain his sentencing and thwart any attempt at an appeal.

[@smurfmonster]

Wow the minute the defence started questioning she seems to have lost all sense of memory and comprehension, she seems to have flipped from an articulate woman to one that can’t comprehend a simple sentence. There’s a LOT more to what happened that day than meets the eye, there was something in the wallet she didn’t want anyone to see and she knew that had her husband’s behaviour and drug use been questioned he would have lost his license to practice.

[@cleew8762]

I know !!! What could it be. maybe he went to a methadone clinic or was supposed to be a recovered alcoholic. Maybe they did acid that night and it was in his wallet. We gotta figure this out !

[@lov3dogs68]

She's not the person on trial. Your point regarding how she should or shouldn't act is irrelevant!

[@smurfmonster]

@@lov3dogs68 I think it’s very relevant. The fact she can’t behave consistently when being questioned by the defence and the prosecution and the fact that when asked the same question by both sides she remembers for one but then “can’t recall “ for the other or gives two different answers to the same question eg the reason she gave for why she drove after they’d been for a drink - she gave different replies for an innocuous question, if she adapts her answer for innocuous questions how are the jury supposed to believe her answers to the important questions? If she’s being truthful or not doing that gives the impression that she’s manipulating her evidence to suit the side that’s asking the question which can come over as being dishonest and makes me question the validity of every answer she gives which in turn weakens the prosecutions position. I agree she’s not the person on trial which is all the more reason that her answers and her manner of presentation should be consistent IF she’s being truthful.

[@smurfmonster]

@Smokey Bones I agree but I still get the impression that there’s more to this case than meets the eye.

[@Eyerusalem_]

Wow could that be the case?

[@violeta8626]

OMG the more I listen to this !! this cross-examination is a CAR CRASH but I can't look away!!!

[@stevenwatson5922]

I'm beginning to think that the shooter and the wife set this up. Remember that she was driving. She could have kept driving and her husband will still be alive.

[@PITAJOEPODCAST]

Oh yea because he can’t just go up and say she had something to do w this? Come on…use logic! Both the victim, the wife and the defendant all mishandled this situation this wasn’t a setup

[@Cochise6666]

I don't think what words were exchanged matters one iota- only the knife. Was the knife brandished, produced from the pocket and raised. Period.

[@mg55-n1l]

Does it have the wife's or any of the officers fingerprints?

[@kekipark77]

im having a hard time believing this woman's testimony. it doesnt seem like she is lying, but her memory is so inaccurate

[@CNP_24]

Oh it absolutely seems like she is lying

[@hrnovak4690]

Same...

[@debbierutledge8556]

He’s not a angry judge, he’s a nonsense judge

[@bens.664]

yes. he is nonsense. youre right

[@Hpenny7]

After watching many of these cases, every judge has their own personalities. Honestly, as, "No-Nonsense," as is is, he has some serious patience with this witness, I literally lost patience 😴 long time ago.... it's actually comical, how he gives the lawyers, "tough love," his hidden agenda ~ he's challenging his predecessors to be their best!

[@JoMomma]

_no_ nonsense you mean?

[@audreymai2773]

*no nonsense. Jc

[@ifonlyunu994]

no. he's angry and needs help. its a cry for help.

[@sharonbain3694]

So you can’t ring 911 but you can ring the villagers?! This witness is hiding something and jumping about in her testimony. If you are telling the truth the story stays the same regardless of the order asked. Her’s doesn’t. Interesting she only remembers about Garret when video evidence is about to played. Also, why the need to give the relationship history of how she met her friend when the question was simply “who did you ring?”. This isn’t emotion or nerves because she mocks the prosecutor and bites back. This is really uncomfortable to watch. There is an elephant in this courtroom for sure!

[@lov3dogs68]

The wife is not on trial here. Edgecomb is.

[@sharonbain3694]

You’re right but she is on the stand and under oath

[@violeta8626]

the defence are completely out of their depth!!! At 25.10mins. "you don't recall being on the phone with someone named Anna??.....the Judge's reaction at 25.17mins is GOLD!!! and I had exactly same reaction!! I did better cross-examinations in my first year of law school. Totally unprepared, all over the place, cannot put a clear sentence together. I read some of the comments before watching this, and someone mentioned she was a hostile witness. This could not furthest from the truth. The reality is that at times it is very difficult to answer his questions because they are just not clear. At times I have difficulties understanding these myself. I hope he learns from this debacle!!

[@GirlyDeadpool]

Lol I had to go back and watch it. I did the same thing but hadn’t seen his reaction.

[@Eyerusalem_]

Completely disagree He us doing heck of a great job judges acting like a kid and totally disrespectful towards him and He is asking the right question he asked her , if she had spoken with Anna? The judge acts inappropriately so what

[@christoph1596]

Lmao this judge looks like a parody of the angriest man in the world

[@ErikS-]

41:15 just notice the time that she takes before she answers it: 7 seconds of silence... It is as if she is wondering whether to tell to truth or not.

[@Eyerusalem_]

Exactly

[@Resa461]

This judge’s behavior is unacceptable! Somebody get him out of there!!!

[@violeta8626]

please explain

[@chelseashaw4337]

He wants it done and done correctly. We would have far less of a court backlog if more judges werelike him.

[@Concur450]

It is his courtroom.

[@holdontight1981]

because she is biased and prejudiced.

[@fieryweasel]

@@holdontight1981 Her husband is the victim. Of course she's biased.

[@jannymazing7762]

Imo she's speaking so slow to make sure she doesn't contradict herself but the testimony & what she said at the scene already conflicts. Very odd & it's not shock esp when it seems she is in disbelief what she said on bodycam/dashcam.

[@bowlingbbabe]

Lmfao defense doesn't remember his question trusty judge steps in!

[@marksaunders4149]

Best judge I have ever seen…sees straight through the bs and lies well done sir

[@brucesmith1544]

he seems like a showboating psycho

[@marksaunders4149]

@@brucesmith1544 what! This defence team would test anyone with their lies and tactics…..they have literally made up a defence.

[@coopyduck6901]

While I don’t think the wife was totally forthcoming, she and her husband were the victims. Defense is trying to make ‘words’ a huge issue. The defendant was the aggressive and violent one.

[@fieryweasel]

I forget if it's this one or another part of her testimony, but the defense attorney trues to reduce it to "so you wanted to hold onto his credit cards". There's a difference between trying to argue a technical wording point and what the defense is doing in cross here.

[@-sami-8318]

What about the bar, receipt from drinks? Did they check her BAC? Unbelievable! He's a 250 lb man w a .012 BAC!! Of course he's saying & or shouting words he normally might not. Just saying

[@danfmac]

They did check his BAC, and the only witness to testify that he said the N word or had a knife in his hand is going to be the defendant who fled the scene and hid for 6 months in another state before some cops found him and he gave a false ID. Why on earth would anyone believe him? He was picked up in Kentucky and he killed this guy in Wisconsin, that is like 300 miles away.

[@carrow1057]

Is this woman capable of answering just one question?