Lawrence Bittaker & Roy Norris : The Toolbox Killers

[@keithdube12]

Easily one of the most disturbing cases ever. Whenever a crime makes an investigator kill himself there’s no more of a discussion to be had

[@ShaunKang69]

Have you heard of the Fidel Lopez case? This one made me pause the vid when I found out how he killed this poor girl. Spoiler: Her death certificate read as evisceration. m.kzbin.info/www/bejne/gpjEoYeHipqiptk

[@rkaye2009]

That investigator was due to testify in another case the day after he died. Odd. He did leave that 10 page note though

[@randalthor6872]

@@rkaye2009 pretty cowardly...but maybe there was foul play?

[@Sbamabelle]

Detectives see and hear the worst of the worst of society at times.

[@staystrong8966]

@@ShaunKang69 oh geez I'm pretty desensitized to these things now, but I couldn't finish that one. When I first heard about how she died I had to get up and walk that one off.

[@temp_unknown]

Despite numerous psychiatrists saying 'he will reoffend'...nah lets just let him out, I'm *sure* he's learned his lesson the 12th time. What the actual fuck.

[@SuperPondguy]

The amount of people killed because of judicial negligence is gargantuan, the more I listen to these the less faith I have on the "system"

[@pinkpugginz]

happens with chomos too

[@pepironi992]

How is it possible that these dangerous criminals kept getting out ?? Oh wait, I know. Extreme liberals in California. Liberal judges and liberals laws If they did these same crimes In 2020, liberals would have wanted to let them off with a stern warning Liberalism is truly a mental disease

[@ShaeNik]

I was thinking the SAME thing! Like really! These socio/psychopaths, throughout the decades, always seem to escape real jail time in the beginning of their killings... and many times over! Then they die in prison "naturally" or by a disease... 🤔 coincidence or nah?! Straight insanity.

[@musicgurl1997]

@@pepironi992 TRUMP PLEASE NOTICE ME I HAVE THE SAME DIAPER AS YOU!!! I LOVE

[@jameshughes525]

The fact that this channel will never run out of monsters to cover for this show says how fu*ked up we humans are no shortage of material to work with

[@Adrian-qp8dm]

Well with tech increasing it's going to get way harder for people like this to pull of anything of the sort within cities, so it is possible that occurrences of this type of behavior are drastically minimized. this is Monsters is great but the day he runs out of material is a good one.

[@thecasual4698]

@@Adrian-qp8dm well said

[@pepironi992]

How is it possible that these dangerous criminals kept getting out ?? Oh wait, I know. Extreme liberals in California. Liberal judges and liberals laws If they did these same crimes In 2020, liberals would have wanted to let them off with a stern warning Liberalism is truly a mental disease

[@musicgurl1997]

@@pepironi992 IM YOUR BIGGEST FAN TRUMP PLEASE SIGN MY DIAPER WE’RE LIKE TWINS HAHA

[@Seawitch555]

@@musicgurl1997 I-

[@user-ps2mi9ze5v]

The thought of Cindy asking to pray before her death is heartbreaking, and her parents couldn't even bury her. Beyond evil

[@jeffbebe5085]

Yes isn't it great (fake) God answered her prayers. Oh that's right there is no ghost in the sky. Why would anyone worship a demon that would allow this is beyond me.

[@mrshadowduh9394]

@@jeffbebe5085 You're a complete fucking dipshit. Be ashamed of yourself.

[@luukvanoijen7082]

@@jeffbebe5085 mm yes lets demonize the victims for being christian. big brain take scott. hope you learn to shut the fuck up in the future

[@scheezy]

@@jeffbebe5085 edgy

[@vinny6967]

@@jeffbebe5085 that's not how it works, and when people live a more religious based life there's less violence and crime

[@NainaB93]

As a person who sleeps, eat, and breathes True Crime, this one is by far is the most horrific. I actually had to stop watching midway and come back to it the next day. I cannot imagine being a juror on that trial. There's not enough Xanax in the world that would help me through that nightmare. My heart hurts for the families who had to endure the trials as well. Is there a word worse than Monsters? If so, that's Larry and Roy. Despite the horror, excellent work as always Jiles.

[@wraithreaper22]

Dude there's way worse than this story

[@schrodinger_kot]

Just don't search for junko furutai cases, it will be fucked up your mind

[@wraithreaper22]

@@schrodinger_kot that's the hello kitty murder I believe. Definitely up there

[@Sinsteel]

The word for people who can do this sort of thing is...homo sapiens.

[@Kayla-Butterfly]

@@wraithreaper22 junko and Hello kitty are different but both very awful 🥺😿

[@creacher00]

I never cease to be surprised and disgusted by these monsters. My heart goes out to the victims. Keep up the good work

[@houseofpain3580]

"They" need chaperones.

[@resevoirdog]

Thank God nowadays things are much better in terms of crime statistics. People know so much about true crime you'd think it was worse but it's actually pretty rare

[@AngelaMStovall]

@@resevoirdog Not in the 70's it wasn't I was attacked THREE TIMES (that's only the vicious ones with weapons guns actually & full penile exposure &/or police 🚓🚨 involved included 🤦🏼‍♀️😳‼️) so all 3 time's my older sister & I had men try to literally kidnap us. One an older man in a Lincoln Continental Dark Blue chased us through Pick Wick Apts. ( my grandma to but she was very small like 4'10" & very petite & cute little face especially in '78 so he must of thought she was a kid also 🤷🏼‍♀️) but we ran behind & banged on our door 🚪 my older foster brother was home heard us screaming 😱 & seen the man jump out of his car running around the apartment and came out on the front porch and cocked the 12 gauge and the man about 💩 his pants and turn around and ran back in his car and squealed out of there it was like a Clint Eastwood movie really funny you look back on it which is strange in itself‼️The next incident was right in the same apartment we were in the woods there and a man pulled out his junk and was chasing us with it and we ran home and they called the police and they actually found him and arrested him which still surprises me but I can still replay the incident over in my mind to this day of him being in handcuffs being let out of those woods it's strange that's the only time that any of the men who ever done anything bad to us has ever got arrested go figure it's a man's world huh. Another incident was in sin City apartments when my grandma lived in Woodbrook Apts. they called them that because of Pine Ridge Apts. selling so much crack there are several big apartment complexes next to each other on eureka road and Taylor and a man and a truck on eureka road pulled out a gun and told me and my sister to get in the car and we told him to 🖕 F off and started running through the apartments to my grandmother's and he chased us in the truck with the hand gun but we got to our grandma's and that was that. My mother had always told us that it was better to get shot on the main road than to get taken out in the woods and have a bunch of bad stuff happen to us before we got shot cuz we were definitely going to get killed so never get in the car it's a good thing we didn't the only time I've ever almost gotten killed was by the people I trusted like my husband 😳‼️ There's a lot more but just way too much the '70s were crazy & I was a kid it got better in the '80s a little bit but it was still bad, the 90s they just started shooting people everywhere but less on the serial killer stuff ‼️Sorry about the grammar/punctuation & all that no editing no time today 😳‼️

[@pepironi992]

How is it possible that these dangerous criminals kept getting out ?? Oh wait, I know. Extreme liberals in California. Liberal judges and liberals laws If they did these same crimes In 2020, liberals would have wanted to let them off with a stern warning Liberalism is truly a mental disease

[@resevoirdog]

@@AngelaMStovall TLDR so many emojis and so visual lol. Didn't read as I mentioned (TLDR) but I'm sure it's crazy , the 70s were pretty free lol

[@billfoster6479]

In all honesty I found this to be the most disturbing and horrifying of all the stories you have presented so far. I perfectly understand how the people who had to leave the court to cry or throw up must have felt. I know there have been a lot of other monsters who have committed as bad or even worse things, but this story bothers me more than any other. Normally I'm not in favour of the death penalty, but if anyone ever deserved it, it's this two.

[@supernova11711]

Yeah, and it doesn’t leave you either. I scrolled the comments to see if it was “that story” and am now going to leave after learning it is. I love this channel but this isn’t one I’m interested in hearing again.

[@billfoster6479]

@@supernova11711 yeah I get that, honestly I just don't know what to say. Except yeah I get it, a part of me wishes I'd never heard of this, and another part says being informed is being prepared. Thankfully 99percent of humanity are decent people. And this was a lesson in what happens when two members of the 1percent get together.

[@supernova11711]

@@billfoster6479 Yep. Just like Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka. One is scary enough but on the odd chance people like this meet…just unthinkable what their victims went through!

[@megmucklebones7538]

Agreed. These two were horrendous.

[@kam-lw4ez]

Paul and Karla is a bad comparison. While Karla definitely was a fucked up person, it's unlikely that she would have gone off killing women all by herself.

[@ninachkah13]

This one is really REEALLY sickening and nauseating. The level of pre-meditation and planning with equal hatred and pleasure in others excruciating pain...is just difficult for my mind to process. So scary

[@dragontaletarot]

It’s completely tragic that these monsters were allowed to live out their lives in prison after cutting so many lives short in such brutal ways. I also hate that earlier psychiatric evaluations were largely ignored or made light of - the signs & diagnosis was already there before the murders started.

[@MTGNicka]

they should've been tortured just like they did to their victims

[@This-Is-My-Little-Corner]

Right? Why did t someone take them out?!?

[@Dana_Lynn]

This was probably one of if not the most disturbing case I've heard on this channel. 😳

[@Dana_Lynn]

@Pᴀᴡɴ S𝜏ᴀʀ𝕤 ✯🇫​ᴀɴ 😳😳😳

[@Ammar777s]

I've heard and read about this before. The audio transcript is available online with a simple search. But be warned, you will NOT be the same after reading it.

[@JamesReynolds852]

@@Ammar777s I've seen a video on KZbin were you can actually hear a very small part of the Shirley Ledford tape being played in the background as people are running out of the courtroom crying. Just the little you can hear is horrendous so I don't think I'd want to hear the entire thing.

[@Ammar777s]

@@JamesReynolds852 Fortunately the entire audio was never released to the public, but reading the entire transcript alone is terrifying.

[@JamesReynolds852]

@@Ammar777s I've read the manuscript too and it's bad but actually hearing part of it was a lot worse. All you can hear is her screaming and wailing in agony for just a couple of seconds but that's more than enough to turn a person's stomach.

[@whaddyaa]

I had forgotten how incredibly disturbing this case was

[@John-ps6ce]

Seeing this guy just smiling at the camera with absolutely no hint in his eyes of any self-awareness is positively spooky. It's a good illustration of his psychopathy. Often, people wear their emotional stuff - or some of it- in their eyes, mouth, the lines on their faces. This guy, there's nothing like that in the smiling picture and you can see anger and regret in his mugshot. These poor young women and their families.

[@nuttrubersrevenge]

"Smile and others will smile back. Smile to show how transparent, how candid you are. Smile if you have nothing to say. Most of all, do not hide the fact you have nothing to say nor your total indifference to others. Let this emptiness, this profound indifference shine out spontaneously in your smile." Jean Baudrillard

[@tinawebb9124]

No matter how often I hear this case it still makes me physically sick.

[@SilentSymhphonies]

God … this one just felt different …it really was awful what these girls had to go through , these men were beyond evil … and that detective .. ending his life over the trauma from just working the case !?! Heartbreaking they didn’t deserve the luxury of prison or life …

[@whatsagoodname8597]

@Pᴀᴡɴ S𝜏ᴀʀ𝕤 ✯🇫​ᴀɴ women can be just as brutal dont let that slide.

[@vincentmcquade2241]

Just completely sad... those poor women. All we can hope for is eternal fire for these bastards!!

[@SilentSymhphonies]

@@themirrorsofmymind my mistake !! I’ll correct that in my post thank you for letting me know :)

[@TrillShatner]

Thanks for spoiling it lol

[@dsteph2789]

@John Smith What has gone on in the conservative south, not one state but the entire region makes California seem like Disneyland. The inhumane abuse and murder of Jews during the Holocaust was based on the enslavement of Blacks and the south's jim crow (sic) laws. That civilized people chose to enslaved an entire race, whipping, raping, mutilating, amputation of body parts, hanging, immolation, selling of children from parents, and all the other barbaric, sadistic and ungodly acts that occurred over centuries reflects they were immoral and soulless people.

[@nm7358]

I distinctly remember news footage of people leaving Bittaker's trial in shock, and through the opened door we could hear a segment of the Shirley Ledford tape being played. It was brief, just an instant, but still as vividly horrid as hearing sounds from Hell itself. As an aside, Actor Scott Glenn visited Quantico to prepare for his role as Jack Crawford in The Silence of the Lambs. Allegedly, John Douglas arranged for him to listen to part of the Bittaker and Norris tape through headphones. Glenn couldn't stop himself from crying during the listening, because it was so much too much.

[@SawdEndymon]

I thought they destroyed the tape.

[@megmucklebones7538]

Yep, I've heard that scream, it's still in my head now. I can hear it. Poor poor girl. They apparently had loads of recordings, but they buried them on the mountain.

[@nm7358]

​@@SawdEndymonFBI still has it in their archives, and is reportedly used in Quantico to help desensitize criminal profiler trainees to the reality of torture.

[@giantfatberg]

@@SawdEndymon the tape was not made public but there is the news report video of the trial where you can hear a few seconds of guttural screaming. Pure agony, despair, and terror on tape

[@elphaba4674]

I just looked up the actor and he looks so different now I didn't think he played Jack Crawford but yeah,it's him. and thats crazy

[@JME1186]

One of the most disturbing cases I’ve learned about and that’s saying a lot… the recorded tape of the one victim has to be one’s worst nightmare to listen to, surpassed only by being the one on the tape being brutalized. If people like this still exist as I fully believe they do, one can only hope there’s more than one Dexter out there leveling the playing field a bit….

[@biglwutang84]

You can read the transcripts on Reddit. It makes your heart hurt.

[@AngelaMStovall]

Oh they ABSOLUTELY DO I've met them just cold as ice absolutely ZERO EMPATHY they look at you like you are a bug 🐛 they need to & are going to disect. 😳🥺‼️

[@pinkpugginz]

I had nightmares about those screams

[@JME1186]

@@AngelaMStovall it’s horrifying to say and think but you’re absolutely right.

[@crikker9447]

I believe John Douglas played the tape for Actor Scott Glenn when he was researching his role for Silence of the Lambs

[@bigredswife4646]

These two and David Ray Parker are the things nightmares are made of … Even with the history of murder and death in my family - I can fully admit that these two and again David R Parker make my skin crawl … The things these men have done are literally indescribably terrifying 😳

[@gangstagarf]

That case might just be even worse than this one. I hope he covers it

[@atomcraft4067]

Randy Kraft was a pretty sick individual.

[@bigredswife4646]

@@atomcraft4067 yes!! Another sicko for sure

[@JamesReynolds852]

@@atomcraft4067 Randy Kraft is definitely a sicko but he was only one of three different sick and twisted serial killers that were all killing independently of each other and at around the same time in southern California. The other two were Bill Bonin and Patrick Kearney. They were all three originally known as the "Freeway Killer". At first the police thought they were only dealing with just one killer because they were all killing young men and boys and dumping their bodies alongside of the freeways in southern California.

[@joesickler5888]

@@atomcraft4067 Bob bordello is pretty bad.

[@JohnMassari]

I appreciate how you set the scene with historical context with regards to culture and Music in particular. Keep up the great work.

[@sharfacekillah]

That Shirley Ledford tape transcript is something permanently engraved in head. I've heard bits of it on KZbin and it's bone chilling.

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

There's no audio available of it, save for a blood curdling scream captured by a cameraman outside of court during the trial. Horrifying.

[@sharfacekillah]

@@mytruecrimelibrary yes that's what I was referring to that Old news footage

[@MystiDawn]

@@mytruecrimelibrary I'm guessing that's probably what they're referring to. That small snippet is absolutely chilling and terrifying! I've read the transcript twice, I think. Just trying to wrap my head around what they did to that poor girl.

[@SawdEndymon]

@@mytruecrimelibrary pretty sure they transcribed then burned it.

[@mytruecrimelibrary]

@@SawdEndymon can't say that I would blame them.

[@SawdEndymon]

I’ve read some of the transcripts and felt sick just reading them. I cannot imagine how horrified Shirley must have been for those hours in the van.

[@cdes1776]

I took a peek - didn't get far. Such a visceral sickening feeling in your gut. The unimaginable pain, humiliation and terror.

[@GradKat]

What an appalling pair. Doesn’t bear thinking what those young girls suffered before their deaths.

[@clarebriggs8169]

Those poor girls, the scream you hear .. just for split second..when you see the press outside court just makes it 'real', it just gave me goosebumps. Those poor girls..easily one of the most horrific brutal cases I've heard of.

[@ytamee5952]

Let's employ specialized people to evaluate dangerous criminals, then blatantly disregard their opinions and let those wastes of space out to roam and kill. Why the hell not. I am speechless as to how many evaluations would those two need in order for the judges to friggin finally get it. Jeez.

[@louieberg2942]

Truly unbelievable. I am one of those "bleeding heart liberals" who thinks preventing recidivism is much more important than punishing the crime... but it is blatantly obvious here that recidivism was guaranteed and so the person must be locked up forever.

[@JamesReynolds852]

@@louieberg2942 It happens all of the time. You need to quit looking at all criminals with the assumption that they're all capable of becoming productive members of society one day if only they're given the chance and the proper guidance. Because, just like with Bittaker and Norris, a lot of them just become more and more violent as time goes on.

[@pickledragonrebel]

It would be the parole board that would determine when they'd be released

[@ytamee5952]

@@pickledragonrebel thanks for information! Parole board then (I'm not from the US :D). Still, people in a position of power, who had the chance to stop so much suffering. I seriously hope that at some point they felt constant pang of guilt from this. i know I would.

[@ytamee5952]

@@JamesReynolds852 I feel that if someone re offended after being released, they wasted their chance on a normal life and a chance of moving on. Each reoffense should be punished even more severely than the last, and if someone just does.not.learn. then they should be locked up for good. Still, people who were trained to see the concerning traits were trying to go through, and weren't heard. This concerns me the most. Why would you ask for an opinion and then disregard it completely. Especially with such a matter. Shocking.

[@tabbysmithfield3794]

The only thing that's ever given me murderous thoughts is hearing the things guys like these do to their victims, the sheer evil of it makes me wish I could respond in kind. I know it's contradictory but I have three daughters.

[@WalldoTheWInner]

Yeah, this is one of the extreme cases where just doing the same thing to them as they did to their victims seems totally justified, with the caveat that they're left alive so they can suffer.

[@tabbysmithfield3794]

@@WalldoTheWInner when it makes me react in involuntary verbal disgust......the torture aspect of it, I can't help myself, I get mad. Just thinking about it again this morning pisses me off, lol!

[@lisafranklin9089]

I feel exactly the same way!

[@tabbysmithfield3794]

@@lisafranklin9089 ya, I'd want to look em in the eye just as they probably did as they were torturing them girls. I'd want to see the absolute fear on their faces and the pain.

[@nobodysbaby5048]

Do yourself (and them) a favor & make sure they can defend themselves w lethal force, if necessary. Because you really can't depend on the police anymore. They're too busy protecting the rights of crackheads. SRSLY.

[@sal1665]

Their first Victim Cindy Shafer was a friend of mine! It ruined what was left of my childhood! Became a over protective parent too! Poor Cindy! She was loved by many.

[@duskfallthreesixfive7918]

I’m sorry, she seems like she was a wonderful person too. She was cautious and alert too, she had no way out, life isn’t fair.

[@todhold2673]

Its crazy how "easy" it was to get away with murder relatively recently. If they didn't brag to their friends, they probably would have got away with this.

[@jedross2136]

It's still fairly easy. Be careful near canals at night.

[@yathercantillano3874]

It still is. I have had some close encounters stupidly nightwalking with headphones on around neighborhoods. I live in a decent area too.

[@ashleylyn]

Out of the many dozens of videos you’ve posted, this is by far the most disturbing to watch. I almost wish I hadn’t clicked on it. Like always, you do a fabulous job reporting the information, this is just one of those hard to swallow cases.

[@Humgin1234]

I left it after 15 …. Too evil

[@markmike7933]

you'll be ok

[@ashleylyn]

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[@ashleylyn]

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[@ashleylyn]

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[@weedywendy4266]

i’ve heard about these two monsters before. i was going to skip this episode, but i wasn’t in the same room as my tablet. i continued listening & did so the entire episode. you do a really great job. i appreciate SO very much how you describe the victims to us. by seeing these beautiful young people whose lives were tragically snuffed out by these monsters.. it makes an impact. thank you for your efforts & and for being a victims advocate. both dead & living.

[@sly_tendencies87]

Holy crap this one was horrific.

[@sammygirl6910]

It's definitely one of the worst. 😞

[@nickyborg2170]

They are booth dead first bitaker then Norris 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

[@sandeesimons6045]

I remember when this all happened. I was a teenager and my generation always got around by hitchhiking. "Thumbing it" was just an accepted part of life, until these despicable Cretans came along. The end of our innocence. Excellent report, as usual. Thanks for all that you do.😊

[@lildebboston455]

Used 2 thumb with my friends all the time neva thinkin bout Monsters like those 2.😳

[@berlyngrey9242]

That’s just it tho these guys were not the only ones out there. Many many more were and still are. You never know who’s vehicle you’re actually getting into. I’m so glad this hitchhiking nonsense stopped for the most part

[@gregbors8364]

I thought they were Americans 😄 just funnin’

[@Dion-rz3fz]

@@gregbors8364 Don't quit your day job!

[@gregbors8364]

@@Dion-rz3fz Yeah, ya gotta watch out for those despicable people from Crete

[@user-ei2je5oy7x]

Both of my parents were awful. My entire family abandoned me at 15 for missing a bus and getting lost in a new city we had just moved to. I had no criminal history other than shoplifting. I was a victim of childhood SA from 3 until 10. I'm not a monster. I've never hurt anyone or thought about it. They both put the blame on others for their horrendous actions.

[@AshleyReneeKuntz]

Goodness. Omg I've been waiting for soo long for a new vid to pop up in my feed dude. Thanks so much for givin me something to look forward to. I watch ALOT of true crime on KZbin and ...ya you know what I'm gonna say lol 👍

[@waynegoddard4065]

Well said. Totally agree.

[@marissahernandez7034]

I agree as well! Thanks for all your hard work!

[@SVIIVII]

It's so nice that these two monsters got to live out the rest of their natural lives being taken care of by taxpayers, never having to worry about money, food, shelter, and medical, while all their victims' suffered horrific deaths. How great is our justice system!

[@deecee9548]

Haunting story, these males were defective. Thank you for showing compassion to the women they brutally murdered

[@jedross2136]

Just beautifully put.

[@kati-ana]

It's disgusting these two monsters were allowed to live out their lives. It doesn't matter if they lived it out locked up, they still got that privilege to live, when their victims never came close to that opportunity.

[@rachelmayes298]

I totally agree. I think they should be killed the same way they killed their victims. Just to let them re live it, but make them realise what they put the victims through. I’m sure some of the loved ones families would like to help. We are too soft, and they’d have had an easy life inside. So, so wrong 😑

[@alisonp3398]

I agree. I don’t understand why Larry wasn’t executed but died naturally. I understand that the death penalty is not perfect because there can be some injustice in cases, but this case was obviously true. This is where I have a problem with the appeals being allowed to drag things out.

[@vinny6967]

@@rachelmayes298 that would be too easy they should have been raped everyday in jail and beaten

[@tinak.356]

WHY Why WHY in the hell will SO many arrests and releases, and re-released DID nobody STOP this guy???? Don't understand!! Lock them up forever!!! Oh MAN, so many lives would be saved...

[@Liitebulb]

Because the victims are always "asking for it" according to these ppl

[@DeathandGrim2]

This one was sucha heavy watch even for a frequent consumer of this type of content like myself. I can't imagine what YOU go through researching this stuff and having to put it together.

[@jennessacard4796]

This one was way too scary. I binge this channel daily. And this one episode is the one that told me I need to take a break. I’m so sorry for these women and girls 😢

[@_Y.Not_]

John Douglas, FBI criminal profiler, who interviewed many serial killers, said that Lawrence Bittaker was the most "loathsome" individual he has ever encountered

[@cdes1776]

I'm betting that all the killers ever talk about is their obsessive perversions. There's no room in their distorted minds for anything else.

[@TedEeles]

​@cdes1776 Bittaker,Bonin,Kraft & Douglas all play bridge together in jail so yeah!

[@colorman4490]

FBI profiler John Douglas said that Lawrence Bittaker was the most vile human he had ever come across and that’s a helluva statement if you know who Douglas is.

[@tubetools5627]

People think Bundy was nasty, this guy is right there with him or worse... I heard the recording they played in court of his last victim I believe it was. That teenage girl... screaming bloody murder and people leaving the courtroom ! They asked him: if you're not guilty then what is this ? And he replied : " For-play ". I literally covered my ears when they played that tape this guy belongs drawn and quartered ! The other guy was a moron sidekick, BitShit was the main perp.

[@elphaba4674]

for-play?!..wow that's disgusting

[@JamesReynolds852]

@@elphaba4674 Yes, he actually said that.

[@TheRongy]

Didn't he say: "Pillow Talk"?

[@pammywhammy3767]

I have never heard of more heinous creatures as these. Sick on a whole other level! Rest in paradise to all the victims

[@theincfiles]

The fact that these two men got to die of natural causes while their victims suffered a terrible end is horrible. If there's an after-life, I truly hope they pay for what they've done.

[@michpratt1]

Great one per usual! And I have to say, I appreciate the red This Is Monsters back in your thumbnails with the silhouettes! Definitely caught my eye when scrolling like the old thumbnail. This Is Monsters and That Chapter are my top channels. Always look forward to you and Mike’s uploads!

[@thaneofwinrun7750]

This is one of the most disturbing true crime cases I’ve ever listened to. I think only the toy box killer rivaled it in terms of how upset I got and how difficult it was to listen to.

[@doctorshell7118]

Doc: patient poses a serious threat to society. Prison: cool. Let’s release him and see what happens.

[@BritzYuhCrazyInno]

Thank you for always making my Mondays more entertaining with your excellent content...keep up the good work

[@annjones1506]

Just what I was thinking! x

[@TwoBs]

“entertaining” Yikes. Makes it seem like hearing what these monsters do to their victims is your form of entertainment….

[@BritzYuhCrazyInno]

The story telling is entertaining, his sarcastic remarks and comments towards the monsters is entertaining not what they do to victims ....never

[@2goblinsinatrenchcoat]

@@TwoBs you sound like someone who looks for reasons to be offended

[@blakehorton8110]

Idk this one was so bad it wasn't very entertaining as much as an warning against how evil people can be

[@Dudevizz3]

Who ever kept letting these two walk free despite all their crimes need to be held accountable.

[@stephf2053]

They're generally known as democrats. You probably know a few and may even be one. They are notoriously soft on crime and have a misguided notion that violent criminals should be given multiple chances rather than locked up for life or killed. Get a government that shows no mercy on crime. It won't mean nasty people like these won't exist but they'll be off the streets pdq.

[@margaretlumley1648]

This case is a stark reminder of the ripple effect that evil deeds do to humanity at large. Love ❤ to the families of these beautiful young girls, and everyone else affected by this tainted pair of bottom feeders.

[@kojikakoifish2862]

The picture of that ice pick or needle in that skull has to be one of the most unsettling images I've ever seen in my life. I literally cannot imagine how that must have felt.

[@Yeahwtf]

Yes...That is just beyond insane.

[@kirstywright5228]

I thought I knew this story and was excited to watch, but when I saw the comments talking about the audio tapes I knew instantly what case it was and I don't think I can listen to this again.

[@TheKnitch]

Ahem. I *still call it grass. Lord, I'm old. And stoned, so there's that. Lol

[@2cents577]

I can’t think of anything worse than what these poor girls went through. I can’t think of anything more terrifying or more painful. 💔

[@bryanburnap4537]

Absolutely horrifying !!!

[@craigedwards2940]

I can, the justice system that kept releasing them. Anyone with any semblance of intelligence would have not released these scum bags, yet it kept happening.

[@kacey5324]

Their first victim,so sad they never found her body 💔🙏🏽🕊

[@tish5492]

Yessssss 1 of my fav parts of Monday!! You NEVER disappoint when you upload. Nice to see that you give so many more victims voices & not just the same ones everyone is overdoing.

[@einsibongo]

Well done, thanks as always for the quality and effort you put in these.

[@jadewooding9886]

The Shirley Ledford tapes gave me nightmares, this is the most effed up case I’ve ever heard of!! Thank you Jiles for all of your hard work 💜sending love Jade Wooding Australia 💜

[@SawdEndymon]

You heard them???

[@missyd5016]

Great to see a fellow Aussie here. Gday from WA. 👋 😆

[@NannupTiger]

@@missyd5016 - I'm in WA too! Did we chat before?

[@NannupTiger]

@@SawdEndymon - I didn't know the worst tapes had been released either!?

[@hollystagg6684]

No way they released the tapes!!!

[@Katies_Modern_Life]

I love the pic of LA that you first used on this video! I miss Los Angeles sooo much!

[@JaneDoe-rj4jn]

Love your channel!!! I’m about to watch this now thanks for the upload! I had suggested this one as well a few months back as it has to be one of the more f-cked up and disturbing!!!!! Reading the transcript of what was said on the audio tapes gave me nightmares. The torture the victims endured. I recall somewhere on KZbin there is a clip of the trial uploaded in which reporters were in the hallway watching spectators come out in sheer disgust. In the background you could hear a snippet of their tortured young victim that they taped screaming in anguish and pain as the doors opened and closed to the courtroom. It was people being interviewed saying they were going to be sick to their stomach and most were left shocked and horrified.

[@ibrahimdijah7465]

Yesssss been waiting all day,much love from Uganda

[@ladymopar2024]

I like how much you plan and research all these stories. The picture of the motel is where I lived for 4 months waiting on base housing that's kind of creepy and it was about the same time as this was going on

[@scorpianna420]

Since hearing about this case a while back, it never left my mind. There is a piece of audio from one of the victims, Shirley Lynette Ledford, still availb on YT (Not the entire version of course & TG! ) just that short part is distressing. Can't imagine how the jury - and the victims family, felt having to sit & listen to the entire audio. It was said that the mother walked out of the courtroom during the playing of the tape. Just absolutely terrible 😞

[@sterneis1]

thank you for the video. this one l could not watch to the end.. the imaginations of their torture was just to gruesome..

[@sammygirl6910]

It's one of the worst to me, and I've been a true crime "fan" since the late '80s. I put fan in quotations because I started reading about these types of cases after I was kidnapped and almost murdered in a way not dissimilar to this case. Luckily there was only one man, and I was able to escape. Fan doesn't really do my interest justice. It's more like an education.

[@clarebriggs8169]

This case is covered in so much detail, I've heard it before and looked it up online, ending up feeling so sickened...But the way you covered it all gave me loads more insight into Lawrence bittaker and Roy.. Purely purely evil predators . RIP to those beautiful angels, xxxxx

[@mariasvlagg-o-padd2588]

Imagine being one of the released girls who went on the "test-rides", and then as time went by learn all about the case through media, omg!!!

[@StlScarlett]

This is a wildly disgusting pair of ruthless monsters. Thanks for highlighting the case and as always, keep up the good work!!

[@2goblinsinatrenchcoat]

The people who kept letting him out have so much blood on their hands. These men never had to take any accountability growing up, and that never results in anything good.

[@shape4234]

Everytime I click on one of these videos of these people I think this can’t be worse than the last one and almost every single time I’m proven wrong I know people like this don’t reflect all humans as a whole but sometimes I feel like the evil people are capable of completely outweighs all good people are willing to do for each other.

[@jedross2136]

You may just have been watching too many of these videos. Hardly anyone gets attacked by a serial killer; most loud bangs you hear are just scooters backfiring.

[@michellevarnum6195]

These monsters actually put me in fear just knowing there is this kind of EVIL in the world... another channel posted a link to the actual tape of the torture...I made it through 10 seconds and it was so horrendous I was in tears and physically nauseated... good grief I hope they are getting EXACTLY what they deserve 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@rekunta]

The tape has not been released to the public.

[@HumanityPeace-r7q]

Name of that channel.?

[@rickypilcher3618]

I've heard the tape of the poor girl screaming in agony as she's being tortured. It breaks my heart and makes me so angry. It's a shame these murderers, who are so vile, are never given some of the same treat they afforded their victims. They deserve that more than anything else.

[@custardgannet4836]

You've heard a snippet of it as that is all that's available to anyone outside of the FBI

[@starloced]

where do you find the tape?

[@ssharkbait]

@@starloced you can’t. Only a very small snippet has ever been released to the public. There are transcripts out there though.

[@cdes1776]

Very grateful that tape wasn't played here. A different tape affected me deeply. I can never hear that kind of terror again.

[@thatgardeninggirl2864]

​@@starlocedtranscripts of it is on google

[@bananabones9715]

I can't even imagine having to listen to or watch a recording of someone being tortured and killed. Anyone who thinks someone who can do these things deserves a chance at a normal life should listen to one and then see how they feel.

[@mrzsaszsaved2851]

I watch this show every time a new episode comes out. I also watch several other similar channels. This one really bothered me. Idk why the torture they performed seemed to be so bad. But this one really got to me. Thanks for your work though.

[@ricewithaspoon9607]

Gawd...it's so great to hear your voice!!! You wouldn't believe the day I had.... (thankyouthankyou!)

[@TahtahmesDiary]

This one was so sad and cruel...just awful people that I'm glad were dumb enough to get caught.

[@janethoward1161]

Aww what a wonderful time to take a break and listen to my fav… THIS IS MONSTERS

[@crystalmoore4183]

This story gives me chills like actually lived it!

[@deedansby6419]

Love your videos been watching since your first post!!!

[@Frankieb2006]

Great job! Keep up the great work!! Love these!!

[@Enrico_2077]

I watch all your content here and on listen to the podcast when I fall asleep. Annie Hall was filmed in New York though. Keep up the great work! I still have to check out your new series, Somewhere Sinister.

[@justinbentz1229]

Good Lord, that was one story that was hard to listen through until the end. True monsters for sure. One of the most disturbing stories I've ever listened to. 🤮

[@user-jh2fe5zv7p]

You're really good at what you do bringing quality work that is engaging to listen to .. well done always amazing 👏

[@MidKnighToker]

An excellent episode, as per usual Giles, I've still got my fingers crossed for the day that you finally decide to pull the trigger and animate a one time "this is cunts" special episode intro for a particular bad or series if English/irish/Scottish killers. Post Script. ive got a friend that is going to Orchestrate a metal guitar remix of your intro song. You've probably got such submissions b4, but hes ridiculously talented, hopefully you will enjoy it :)

[@julieellingwood7567]

how about no…c&nt is one of if not the worst word in the english language..sheesh…just no

[@MidKnighToker]

​@@julieellingwood7567 Hi there Karen.. i mean Julie.. same diff. Jusat FYI its a reference to the last time i spoke with Giles, the man who runs this page... who is culturally informed enough to understand the nuances of language. & understands a word is as nasty as a person makes it. that is your opinion and maybe to you it is but to millions of British, Irish Scottish and other European citizens its as common as butt-head or shithead or buddy.. etc etc.. and how bout you just mind your own if you've got nothing nice to say? take your oversensitive opinionated self elsewhere

[@themightymcb7310]

@@julieellingwood7567 it has very different connotations in America versus the UK and Australia. It's practically a normal swear word there, whereas it's seen as highly misogynistic in the US.

[@jedross2136]

@@themightymcb7310 Yeah man you're right, like here in Scotland, we would call Midknight Toker a long-winded, unfunny cunt and they wouldn't take any offense.

[@saintlynnie4037]

@@julieellingwood7567 it's a totally different word in the UK. There are far worse words.

[@SaintlySinner81]

Another amazing upload! Love from Pittsburgh 🖤💛 Thanks for the brief stop here 🙂

[@4eversteena]

Im from Redondo Beach. and spent a lot of time in Hermosa....I've never heard this story. This made me very uncomfortable. SGV is easily 2 hrs from RB. Knowing the 1st victim had to sit, scared about her future for all that time is heart wrenching.

[@alison4316]

I've enjoyed your channel since season 1, and it is always refreshing when you throw in tiny bits of humor in these otherwise depressing stories, while still sticking to the facts. Love your work, Mr. Giles 💕

[@jeffwalters8180]

Gnarly! Ladies, attack those eyeballs if ever fighting for your life. One cannot toughen those eyelids...

[@beccas.7762]

Exactly.

[@mirandaulrich5874]

I love the hooks where you say "he never got in trouble again" and then basically say "just kidding losers you thought!" That to me is the funniest thing ever. Catches me off guard. Love your show always have! Thank you!

[@Jordys_Cursed_Camera]

I really can't believe that even when psychologists report these monsters to be dangerous to society they're still released from prison. The fact they're repeat offenders doesn't seem to matter either. It's so disgusting. The lives of so many young women could've been saved had these vile, evil people have been kept in prison where they proved repeatedly they truly belong.

[@gudbrid8702]

Thanks sir amazing explanation very nice effort 👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻👍🏻GOD bless you all the best 👌🏻👍🏻👌🏻😍😍😍

[@TanukiOkiyo]

Just listening to the description of what’s on the tapes, is enough nightmare fuel for me . Those poor women…

[@77Jonb]

Omg..I've been waiting to hear you document this one!! Those poor girls😇 RIP Angels

[@mackenziewilliams4507]

That poor girl from the beginning deserves to be found 😩

[@davidperrott5098]

Hey guys. Your output is staggering Morgan. Consistent, and consistently quality pieces ... Everyone. I just got thru the Russel Williams one ... all the way.(Apart from most of the 'interrogation segment' as I have seen it quite a few times) I was really looking forward to you covering this case and these guys are right up there with the very very worst so I was kinda looking forward to you giving this the full on Leader one Studio deep dive Morgan? I know you did a Human Monsters one as well but that's pretty short also. Anyway, I hope this doesn't come across as a complaint as it most definitely isn't. You have been doing such an incredible job for years now. So the only thing left to say is a heartfelt 'Thank-you Morgan'

[@TheBaronessIsAwesome]

The case of the Toolbox Killers was my first taste of true crime. I'm pretty desensitized by now, but the whole 'ice pick in the ear' thing still gives me major heebie jeebies. It makes my ears itch just thinking about it.

[@blakehorton8110]

This one is really bad but believe it or not there's worse ..... some guy from Brazil killed little girls up to 300 and they released the fck he licked to torture as well

[@Ytdeletesallmycomments]

Seen worse. One i could not watch till the end. No one could 🤣🤣 Forgot his name but he put people in the blender and that was the least sickening he did. 🤮

[@TheBaronessIsAwesome]

@@blakehorton8110 Oh, I'm sure there's worse. Albert Fish comes to mind, for example, or Paul Bernardo and Paula Homolka, or David Parker Ray. For some reason, this one always stuck in my mind though, because I could so vividly remember the ice pick story.

[@TheBaronessIsAwesome]

@@Ytdeletesallmycomments You mean Richard Chase? Yeah, he was a peach.

[@cincin4515]

Yes. I now have shooting pains from deep inside my ears.

[@JoJo-ii6pj]

I love your videos.... this one was ha d to watch/listen too. I can't imagine what you went through doing the research. But, it's videos like this that make you be much more aware of your surroundings. Thank you for what you do. 👍🙂

[@flutebasket4294]

We need to legalize cruel and unusual punishment and use it in cases like this. I'm dead serious

[@eamonwright7488]

The wire hanger that was twisted around Shirley Ledford's neck was the size of a 50 cent piece once Norris was finished dispatching her.

[@inflatable_friends]

I've heard a legitimate audio clip from one of their tapes (only about one minute). This was the most unsettling and haunting experience of my life. These two treated torture like it was breathing. Completely unfazed. Like an everyday occurrence. The term "monsters" has never been deserved more.

[@staceysmith8292]

Me too. Was in my offender profiling class

[@inflatable_friends]

@@staceysmith8292 Jesus Christ, I feel so much sympathy for you.

[@staceysmith8292]

@@inflatable_friends no need my friend, but it was horrific. You can just picture it, & ugh… you can’t ever get over hearing something like that

[@Key-dr9dh]

Love love love this show! Please keep posting!!!!

[@selenagonzolas6302]

New subscriber here!Love your channel!!!!