Laws Broken: Jurassic Park

[@donalddickerson206]

Ironically, if you read the book, this sort of thing is exactly why the park ISN'T built in the U.S.--to avoid legal fallout.

[@glynrh8892]

Donald Dickerson was literally about to comment this 😂

[@zekezzekekan2144]

Maybe he'll bring that up when he reviews the book.

[@gardian06_85]

yes, but many of the employees were Americans (Holywood casting sure), John Hammond is an American, and the "experts" invited to go to this island were American. The island is uninhabited Costa Rican territory (meaning it would first be considered there), and then considering the parties in question it could also be reasonable to prosecute this case in the United States. there would be some argument as to what Jurisdiction in the US it would fall, but that would come down to residence of the harmed individual is. where InGen is a US company, and in the start of Movie 2 is facing legal fallout in the US from the events of movie 1, this implies that the author didn't even try to do research into jurisdiction, extradition, or how laws work in general.

[@YouRemindMeOfTheBabe.]

Oh. I thought it wasn't built because dinosaurs are extinct. ;)

[@rileypowell5354]

It would be ironic if this WAS built in the us but DIDN'T see any legal consequences for the dangerous conditions

[@lachlanraidal5100]

Nedry found a loop hole here; you are, in fact, exempt from all liability for your actions if you are killed and eaten by a dilophosaurus.

[@KemeticWitch]

Natures highest court lol

[@aalihte3378]

#audiblelaughter

[@RexVergstrong]

But, can you call this an actual dilophosaurus? It's DNA is mixed with frogs.

[@Crazy-Chicken-Media]

@@RexVergstrong Dilopafrogrus? Dihophosauruus?

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

You are -- but your estate isn't!

[@recursor9469]

"Why didn't I build in Orlando" Ah, yes, Florida. The place with no hurricanes.

[@genowolf]

Yes the irony is funny

[@GravesRWFiA]

already had a kid eaten by just alligators as disney, they know how bad it could go

[@genowolf]

@@GravesRWFiA lol yes

[@whitenoise8397]

Also on the mainland... so, ANOTHER point against him setting up in Orlando.

[@sarahhenry3607]

i mean to be fair, orlando is pretty safe from hurricanes. they usually just get some flooding.

[@Demigord]

Former zookeeper here: we did have hardhats like that, but only for going into cages with raptors.. of course, unlike velociraptors, they attack from above

[@artoriapendragon3234]

Actually Velociraptors might have as well. They are not actually pack hunters like Deinonychus or other Raptor-type dinos of more... Jurassic Park Size... but these small dog sized feathery buddies might've pounced on smaller prey from higher vantage points.

[@artoriapendragon3234]

also I feel I must add since that among Raptor-likes (Dromeosaurs) there's not really any evidence for social wolf-like pack hunting, though there is evidence of taking down prey too big to be taken down alone, some theorize it might just be situational group hunting such as with Komodo Dragons.. where a bunch of individuals just so happen to swarm on the same prey.

[@harryeast95]

I sat at the back row of a flying eagle demonstration once and it flew uncomfortably close. I mean, it was probably not that close but it was a big eagle and it was disconcerting.

[@typacsk]

@@harryeast95 I believe it! I've been bombed by smaller hawks (e.g. sharp-shinned) when I got too close to a nest, and that was unsettling enough

[@darthprodigal9401]

Important and noteworthy fact... they have been hard at work CONSTRUCTING this 1st park for a long time and are basically now moving the last of the attractions/animals into their habitats. So the hard hats may very well be a holdover policy that was/is enforced in many areas until they are deemed complete and ready to 'open' to the public. Even Hammond himself points out several things that aren't in their final finished and polished stage where he'll feel comfortable presenting them to the general public.

[@CHIrminsul]

My grandpa (a lawyer) once said about the lawyer in the movie "He was willing to abandon and risk the lives of those kids. I can't take offense to the insults to his character, as he has none."

[@DelphineDenton]

Exactly. He almost certainly knows that there are huge liability issues with this park and negligence left, right, and center on top of the extreme violation of scientific ethics. If he decides to be the lawyer representing a man who runs his business like that, abandoning children to their fate is unsurprising.

[@Stormkrow280]

He doesn’t die in the book, in fact he wasn’t even there when the T-Rex breaks out of its enclosure, he had volunteered to stay with Sattler while she examines the sick Stegosaurus, later on he helps Muldoon (who also doesn’t die in the book) round up the dinosaurs.

[@BlueUncia]

His character is very different in the book, in a positive sense. He's quite heroic there. Hammond on the other hand is an irredeemable ass in the book who dislikes his grandchildren and abandons them to die. He also dies in the end.

[@AJR-zg2py]

@@BlueUncia I read the book after watching the movie... and could not believe how much of an asshole Hammond was.

[@AdamZimmerman-c6i]

To be fair, fear makes people do stupid things. Not that it excuses his action, but just something to point out

[@TehDarkOn3]

"We spared no expense" *Hires one IT guy to write 2 million lines of troll code*

[@FallenBenevolence]

AND not paying him properly, leading to the entire events of the movie

[@foxymetroid]

The guy could have been paid a competitive wage and still be tempted by millions of dollars.

[@FallenBenevolence]

@@foxymetroid In the book he is specifically motivated by screwing InGen over because they ripped him off. They gloss over that in the movie.

[@bcn1gh7h4wk]

"Don't get cheap on me, Dodgson. That was Hammond's mistake"

[@FallenBenevolence]

@@bcn1gh7h4wk The only in movie reference to the actual issue Nedry had with InGen

[@TheDakkaman]

Legal Eagle: *Takes offense at “blood-sucking lawyer” comment* Also Legal Eagle, not ten minutes earlier: “I shouldn’t be laughing at this carnage...”

[@slevinchannel7589]

LEGAL EAGLE! Can you check out some Scam-Games?! Namely 1-3 of the following? 'Dreamworld' 'Earth 2' 'Planet IX' Can you do at least the Copyright-Aspect of them promising you may own the Taj Mahal and other protected places/stuff/thingys?!

[@mushrooms5601]

Wrong thing

[@mechajason]

He can take offence to the bloodsucking lawyer thing all he wants but it’s true though they are bloodsucking vampires their sharks it’s what they do it’s how they make their living

[@OtakuUnitedStudio]

Also known as "comedic irony."

[@claytonwatson7307]

I love how unemotional and straight face he was saying he took offense

[@undead890]

Hammond: "We spared no expense" LegalEagle: Proceeds to show all the different ways expenses were spared

[@Matrim42]

That’s made super obvious in the book. Hammond was unambiguously a bad guy in the book who cut costs at the expense of health and safety despite his charming exterior.

[@macmuggo5459]

Matrim42 that’s why he gets killed in the book

[@iantaggart3064]

They only hired one software engineer, had the circuit breakers halfway across the island from the control room and used Ford Explorers for the tour.

[@Gorypaladin346]

And the funny thing is, the “blood sucking lawyer” was actually kind of a hero in the books. who frequently kept questioning Hammond on all of the bs he was doing and actually risked his life to save the children when the t-Rex attacked. Oh and I do believe he actually survives. It’s like the only time I’ve see where a Lawyer is portrayed positively

[@GeorgeDCowley]

@@Gorypaladin346 There's Daredevil.

[@Speculativedude]

"I don't feel this is an accurate portrayal of attorneys." Well to be fair, in the books Gennaro (the lawyer) wasn't the one that ran and left the kids in the car. It was another character named Ed Regis that was cut from the movie who's mostly cowardly acts (and to a certain extent his death) are given to Gennaro who in the book not only survives, but is actually a pretty good and decently likeable character.

[@astronomybrainiac]

He was also a badass who fought off an (admitedly, injured) raptor while unarmed and managed to escape.

[@antonbrakhage490]

@@astronomybrainiac One day I'd like someone to make a book-accurate remake of Jurassic Park, except with the paleontology updated to modern standards.

[@boringperson1]

@Anton Brakhage I agree, because that sounds awesome.

[@christopherbetancourt4643]

I mean Jeff goldblum's character died from his injuries in the book

[@antonbrakhage490]

@@christopherbetancourt4643 And then was promptly retconned alive in the sequel.

[@dirtydish6642]

Objection 01:50 - Hard hats. They are working in vicinity of a crane (not shown in this scene, but it is there and lowered cow in same compound later in movie). This alone would justify. That said you could argue head height objects in vicinty (i.e. raised Hilo tines), also it possible the fence at top of compound (shown in this scene and at aforementioned feeding scene) is electrified. OSHA: 29 CFR 1910.135 governs hard hat requirements for general industry workers When objects or debris might fall from above and strike workers on the head When employees may strike their heads against fixed objects, like supports, beams, or other equipment When there is the possibility that workers’ heads will make contact with electrical hazards Keep Eagling!

[@LegalEagle]

Touche. Sustained!

[@heneedsomemilk655]

Seems like the fact that the raptor container is being transported to the pen via forklift also would justify hardhats.

[@grahamcracking5056]

but hardhats aren't going to protect someone from getting eaten by a raptor they probably should've had some kind of armor to wear instead of going ham on the guns

[@Elmithian]

@@grahamcracking5056 to begin with, their security, the cages, just everything engineering wise is horrendous. No redundant systems, no locking mechanism... nothing.

[@darkark101]

Well played sir.

[@Ian_DSouza]

Fun fact: The majority of fossils on display are foam casts. That's the reason the T. rex display started to buckle. If you don’t see metal scaffolding holding the fossils, the display is a replica.

[@WinVisten]

They would never hang a real fossil up in a museum, because they would be too heavy to hang up, and are impossible to repair once damaged/broken, and are all one of a kind and irreplaceable, so they wouldn't risk it, at least for large ones. Maybe small ones they could put in one of those glass cases they put on walls, like small trilobites or something, they might put out actual fossils of.

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Still gross negligence

[@Ian_DSouza]

@@Aaa-vp6ug His reasoning lacked the fact that the displays were casts. He was under the assumption that they were real fossils and weighed hundreds of pounds. "The fact that they are falling apart is more evidence of negligence". Those supports were never supposed to carry more weight than the casts. With this additional info, I think a good lawyer could make a good argument in defense of the park.

[@Mike1064ab]

Those supports should have been designed to carry more than the weight of the fossil replicas because if people had to work on and around them they would need to support that weight too.

[@lobstr17]

​@@WinVistenactually museums will put real dinosaur bones on display sometimes. The dinosaur center in Wyoming has real dino bones mounted in their reconstructions

[@pinkpolarbear24]

As an ex-zookeeper, Tim is absolutely dead after touching that fence. The amount of power you have to put through an electric fence for a rhino is enough to knock an adult human back, and the amount of electricity in an electric fence scales with the size and the attitude of the animal (for instance rhinos need a higher voltage fence than an equivalent animal their size due to them being easy to aggravate and having a "charge first ask questions later" approach). So I would hate to imagine the voltage a fence that has to hold T-rex, sauropods and triceratops would have to put out. Definitely enough to kill a kid though... Edit: incidentally the elevation change mentioned is considered one of the safest way to keep large non-climbing animals, as it is much less likely to go wrong and release dangerous animals (but with a stand-off barrier to prevent people from falling in).

[@angelcat183]

I've always said this. No way that he survived enough voltage to keep a t-rex from escaping.

[@alexdavidson239]

That kid is vapor.

[@davidthemarineveteran4589]

Why'd they even climb the fence? Cinema sins pointed out the fence ended a short distance away from where they climbed. But you're right, Tim was toast.

[@christineburdett6913]

Exactly!!! The fact that Grant performs CPR on Tim and somehow brings him back always bugs me too. CPR, though important, simply isn't enough. In reality, you need to shock the person to "restart" their heart and there was no AED nearby, so honestly, Tim would have been dead.

[@rebeccahicks2392]

@@davidthemarineveteran4589 Tim could have squeezed through the fence, too.

[@sunnysidesofblue]

I'd love to see this guy's take on National Treasure. I can only imagine how many crimes are involved in stealing the Declaration of Independence. XD

[@matthewferrantino9521]

I would imagine "not so much a large number, but a few blatantly ultra serious super felonies"

[@zegpath81]

Oooh ya.

[@jwhippet8313]

They baked it, too; no? Or smeared it with lemon juice or something.

[@k1ng_BL0C]

@@jwhippet8313 they heated it with blow dryers and rubbed lemon juice on it

[@k1ng_BL0C]

@Michael Orme I know, I watched the movie. There's a few obvious reasons why they did that

[@clintonwilcox4690]

"Here we have a bad actor..." I totally thought you were talking about Wayne Knight's performance before you clarified you were talking about his bad acts. lol

[@geriwulle]

Yeah, I thought damn he's calling out my boy Newman like that.

[@LordPrometheous]

Same here. I was going to object to his accusation of Wayne Knight being a bad actor. He was great. Funny, evil, terrible at lying, and he died a pretty cool death, even if we didn't get to see it.

[@unstoppableExodia]

Jurassic Park and Seinfeld made Wayne Knight one of the actors I hated most in the nineties purely because I only saw him playing characters I despised. I was a little kid at the time and couldn't fathom at the time that he might not be as much of a douche in real life as those two characters he played

[@sandernielsen8018]

Why didn't they just write Dr Wu as the thief ? Since Dr Wu wouldn't shut down anything, he would just use his access code to gain access to the cold storage unit.

[@basedeltazero714]

​@@sandernielsen8018 Out of universe, probably because it would have worked, and then it'd be a weird industrial espionage case instead of a dramatic dinosaur zoo escape. In universe, as mentioned above, Nedry was resentful of what he viewed as inadequate compensation for his (quite extensive) work, and thus, readily agreed to assist Ingen's rivals in stealing the samples. Dr Wu (or any other member of the science staff) presumably was not willing to make the same deal. Which makes sense, he's the one that created the dinosaurs in the first place, and the rival group apparently didn't have the willingness or resources to... hire him to do the same thing.

[@JamesWillmus]

Calling Jurassic Park "unsafe working conditions" is the understatement of the year.

[@No-Community1380]

Yeah it's literally the point of the movie

[@darkknight2481]

Well, the park wasn’t finished, but I see your point

[@weebandgaminginc.7593]

@@darkknight2481if the park wasn’t finished, then Hammond would have even worse negligence fines, because he should’ve known that the park was not finished and he still let people in

[@diddutz]

16:08 "we have a really bad actor" wow, that's a bit harsh 16:14 "as result of his bad acts" oh ...

[@garionfan1]

I had the exact same reaction. 😄

[@malaineeward5249]

@@garionfan1 Same!

[@Bob3D2000]

I thought, "Leave Wayne Knight alone. Ah, I see."

[@jessicataylor7174]

OMG I was SHOCKED...then moments later 'oh THAT'S what he meant!' 😁

[@BarjanTube]

lol yeah, caught that too 😂

[@kirara2516]

Fun fact: there was a real hurricane that hit the filming set during the movie and some footage of the storm is actually real that they filmed while hunkering in their hotel.

[@kindadecent9754]

Yeah it’s the reason why they didn’t film Samuel Jackson’s chase and death scene

[@craigsnortsfruitshoots2811]

@@kindadecent9754 would of loved to see how he died

[@-Ghostess]

@@craigsnortsfruitshoots2811 It's in the original novel. There are audiobooks of it on KZbin if you don't want to sit down to read.

[@craigsnortsfruitshoots2811]

@@-Ghostess thanks

[@skullyskaric7779]

@@kindadecent9754 i guess so..cause sometimes in the game version they didn't put samuel jackson in jw evolution just his hand and thats it..i kinda find it very disrespectful for the creators of that game.

[@darkangel31314]

Ironically in the beginning of the book "The Lost World" which was the only sequel to "Jurassic Park", it is mentioned that InGen went bankrupt because of all the Civil Lawsuits caused by the fiasco....

[@leithmcmillan5562]

Dang, so Jurassic World actually contradicts the books (not just deviating from them)

[@ywe3]

Actually they filed Chapter 11 and all the lawsuits were settled out of court for undisclosed damages and with the stipulation that all parties signed a new NDA barring discussion of the island its purpose or the deaths and accidents that happened there in fact malcom broke his NDA and therefore was being sued by InGen for slander and was for to pay restitution...

[@GanonGhidorah]

@@leithmcmillan5562 The Movies and the Novels follow different continuities, due to the fact the Novels are VASTLY different from the films - rather than being directly based on the book, the Lost World movie is more akin to being based on the first Jurassic Park - adapting more parts of the story that didn't make it to the screen. Jurassic World doesn't contradict anything, because the stuff that the Books say had little to do with the movies to begin with - not to say that is good or bad, or better or worse. However, it's not to say that there were no lawsuits taken against InGen because of the Jurassic Park incident to begin with; in fact, it's actually documented in promotional material released by the DPG for the release of Fallen Kingdom. In the movies; InGen suffered much more MAJOR lawsuits than what would be depicted here. (5 Mil for each person? Pfft - the lawsuits were up to SIX digits per death.) Either way, InGen was on the verge of bankruptcy because of these deaths - so Peter Ludlow's attempts to get Jurassic Park San Diego running seemed like a desperate last resort. The resulting lawsuits from THAT almost completely destroyed InGen - they really can't sweep a Bull T-Rex running lose in downtown San Diego under the rug. As a result of this, John Hammond successfully lobbied to have Isla Sorna converted into a sanctuary for the Dinosaurs, provided that the Gene-Guard Act be signed to effect - it basically is a law that prevented InGen, as well as any other genetics company - from cloning any additional dinosaurs ever again. However, after the San Diego Incident, Simon Masrani of Masrani Global purchased InGen and rescued it from bankruptcy. (It's clear in hindsight, Masrani wanted the company to get hands on the dinosaur cloning technology.) During the time between the purchase in 1998 to 2001, with funding from Masrani, Dr. Wu - chief geneticist for InGen - snuck onto Isla Sorna with a team of geneticists and began conducting HIGHLY illegal genetic engineering experiments; illegally creating four new species of Dinosaurs not previously featured on either island, as well as genetically modifying at least two other per-existing species. (It's the unexplained events of Jurassic Park 3.) By 2003-2004, Masrani had successfully bribed or planted enough officials in the Costa Rican Government to successfully amend the Gene Guard Act to allow them to not only create a brand new Dinosaur Park on Isla Nublar, to populate the park with existing stock from Isla Sorna, but to also allow them to genetically engineer replacement animals in their currently existing stock, should Sorna be found inadequate for their needs. Effectively John Hammond's last act was overturned and the Lost World was pillaged. After opening in 2005, Jurassic World enjoyed massive success, to the point where Masrani basically was able to lobby to effectively neuter the Gene-Guard Act, to allow them to create new animals not previously featured on InGen's list. But with growing interest in Dinosaurs dwindling, Dr. Wu proposed the idea of gene-splicing to create an entirely new animal, based on the experiments he'd conducted before hand; thus leading to the creation of the Indominus Rex. Thought you'd like to know; there's a lot to talk about when it comes to both the books and the movies, and I enjoy talking about them.

[@TheLordofDarkness1995]

GanonGhidorah I think you meant 8 figure settlements. 6 figures is less than 1 million.

[@ywe3]

@@GanonGhidorah I completely forgot about the amazing efforts on the part of universal to fill in the gaps between movies but yes you're absolutely correct (concerning the movie plots) but the book [1st book] was written simultaneously with the movie BUT Crighton and Spielberg had different intentions for the movie version...Universal wanted a PG-13 movie and Crightons book is a HARD R rating if not NC-17 with the graphical depiction of the attacks and injuries (for the time anyway today it might still have gotten that PG-13 rating)...but in the books Ingen wasn't bankrupted by the 1st island but by the second hurricane that destroyed Site B...either way both are great at showing lack of responsibility on the part of ingen and her rivals (biosyn)...

[@Kaiser8513]

Objection: the hard hats would actually be mandated due to there being objects being lifted over the heads of other workers in the area (gate/guns) as well as the fact that the person on top of the container themselves are a drop hazard. However being the 90's not sure about this specifically but they are not wearing high visibility vests/jackets they are only wearing a standard rain coat that happens to be yellow but not reflective

[@jackturner214]

Also, the helmets are irrelevant from an animal keeping perspective, as there is no headgear specified or required during protected contact (e.g., when a barrier is between animal and keeper) or during no contact care. In addition, OSHA (assuming there is jurisdiction because the film takes place in Costa Rica, so that's questionable) does not have specific workplace safety standards for animal care specialists beyond what is specified in general regulations for a safe working environment. The main source of standards is the AZA; however, most facilities exhibiting animals in the US are not AZA accredited, and I don't think the AZA accredits facilities that care for bio-engineered creatures brought back to life 65 million years after extinction 🙂

[@frederalbacon]

The shooters in the tower are wearing them, they don't need them for the overhead load, so it's just standard wear for them.

[@seanurbik2689]

"How many times have i said we needed LOCKING MECHANISMS ON THE VEHICLE DOORS!" -Robert Muldoon, 1993

[@eaglescout1984]

I thought for sure he was going to include that clip when talking about the fences.

[@thunderflare59]

It's like he knew this video would happen.

[@ShawnRavenfire]

I was surprised he didn't mention that.

[@thevrb1811]

But then they’d get sued for locking people in in an emergency

[@tbeller80]

In the closeup of the T-Rex giving the girl the stink eye with the flashlight, you can see the stem of the door lock sticking up.

[@EWLR89]

OSHA "You can't have loaded guns on the work sight" Costa Rica "You have no power here"

[@unoriginal1562]

“Most zoos probably don’t have loaded guns” Me: most zoos don’t have giant ferocious lizards that could destroy buildings and swallow people whole if they wanted to

[@damenwhelan3236]

Beat me to it.

[@damenwhelan3236]

@@unoriginal1562 No. Not reptiles. But mammals.

[@mikem2849]

@@unoriginal1562 Elephants can and do destroy buildings and kill lots of people.

[@NodDisciple1]

@@mikem2849 Yeah, and elephants are carnivores that can swallow a man whole either.

[@eggnogalcoholic]

Every time he said “bad actor” I thought he was throwing shade at Wayne Knight. Didn’t realize it was a legal term 😂😂😂

[@ratsmacker676]

Yes doesn't it mean that they are a bad liar?

[@johnmcmanus2447]

@@ratsmacker676 i believe it means the accused, or the suspect. Could be wrong though, as i have precisely zero legal experience

[@travij754]

Bruce WAYNE, dark KNIGHT

[@LordMogatron]

In this case it's a double entendre lol

[@allim.5941]

Think he was being cheeky with the ambiguous term.

[@evelienheerens2879]

Objecton: The park was constructed on some Island somewhere outside of US legal jurisdiction. Building your plants in third world countries to avoid health and safety or environmental regulations is a time-honered US tradition and is probably legal.

[@Zodroo_Tint]

The USA keeping a torture camp outside of the USA and it is perfectly legal so yes, the park on an island in Costa Rica you can do anything.

[@anonymoushuman8443]

Overruled: it’s an American company

[@mermer2811]

@@anonymoushuman8443 so ?

[@alexiswagner5388]

@@Zodroo_Tint what do u mean by torture camp? I'm genuinely asking I'm from the US

[@chrislarson9335]

@@alexiswagner5388 Guantanamo Bay is a US internment camp famous for torturing the people sent there. It is also in Cuba.

[@RosieRoan]

The primary law that Jurassic Park broke is that they named their park "Jurassic", but featured dinosaurs mainly from the Cretaceous Period.

[@airshow406]

Jurassic is just such a more iconic and marketable word.

[@macaulayranch]

@@airshow406 i would say that this very movie is the reason that we subconsciously think "jurassic" is a more fitting word for the park. i doubt that the word was even a common term that most people knew before 1993. also camp cretaceous takes offense to that

[@airshow406]

I don’t think it’s just how well known the word is/was. Jurassic just *sounds* better. It’s easier to spell, easier to say and has this striking unique elegance to it that makes it stand out. Even before the movie I would remember it seeming like the most distinctive of the dinosaur eras, and would be mildly disappointed if my favorite dinosaurs weren’t from it.

[@XeroMaverick]

8 versus 6 isn't that bad. With 1 from the Triassic period.

[@floofycreaturesgalore1564]

I agree I can't even spell Cretaceous without looking it up its just easier to sell/say

[@emmitstewart1921]

One crime everyone overlooks is when Nedrey places the pile of shaving cream on top of a piece of cherry pie so that it looks like whipped cream and leaves it sitting on the table. This is a deliberate and malicious act and could lead to anything from someone eating the pie and spitting it out, to a person vomiting and suing the restaurateur for medical damages.

[@SomethingScotty]

I think it's safe to assume all the gathered food was for Nedrey. And not just because he's fat, but because he's currently eating some of the food when what's his face walks up.

[@GamingWithHajimemes]

@@SomethingScotty I wanna say Dotson? Or Dawson?

[@MigPlz91LivestreamOnly]

@@GamingWithHajimemes i think its spelled Dodgeson

[@GamingWithHajimemes]

@@MigPlz91LivestreamOnly You're probably right there.

[@reginabillotti]

Shaving cream is not meant to be eaten, but I doubt it's going to be toxic, at least not to most people, given that it's a product so often used on the face and accidental ingestion is probably easy to do. So manufacturers would want to be careful with that.

[@homunculus7]

In the books The Lawyer is such an amazing bad ass character, Hes also way more worried about the safety of the park and fends up a raptor with his bare hands and survives the book. It's a shame what happened to him in the second book

[@bsgfan1]

I hated how it was dysentery of all thing.

[@christophero3869]

Didn’t he even ride out with Muldoon to hunt raptors with a rocket launcher?

[@thickerconstrictor9037]

@@BuddyMayfieldFishBuddy no you are mistaken. The character in the book that peed himself and left the kids, was Ed regis. That was not the lawyer. The lawyer in the book was not with them during the T-Rex breakout. In the movie, they combined Ed Regis and gennaro the lawyer. He was much much more like Ed Regus in the movie but he had the job of the lawyer gennaro and the name. So the original poster here is correct in his statement. You are just thinking of the wrong character.

[@homunculus7]

@@BuddyMayfieldFishBuddy that was Ed Regis not the lawyer. Go actually read the book before u talk.

[@Solarusdude]

Gennero in the book was definitely one of the heroes and it makes no sense for him in the movie to suddenly see dollar signs when he sees the park’s technology in action. Gennero had no financial stake in Ingen. His job was to represent Ingen’s capital investors who were worried about Jurassic Park’s stability and safety and he should have been expected to maintain a skeptical demeanor while investigating potential problems. Furthermore, I would have expected him to bring a small team of independent engineers to assist with his investigation.

[@xXImikoXx]

OBJECTION: 14:44 - The electricity for the fence to keep the T-Rex inside wasn't out because of the storm, it was disabled by an act of sabotage from Ned, who had hacked the system in order to disable security measures along his escape route. The Park Staff and it's owner couldn't have anticipated an act of sabotage and corporate espionage by one of their own. Even if they DID have a secondary fence or a back-up generator, it would have been disabled by Ned without authorization, and the result would have been the same.

[@RyanofAndor]

That was my thinking. The damage to the parks systems was so severe they had to take everything down and restart it. I think if backup generators were the second line of defense, a decent lawyer could probably argue that away.

[@Azhrei2]

I was about to comment the same thing. It goes a little more in depth in the book, but in the movie Muldoon specifically asks, "The raptor fences aren't out, are they?" To which Arnold responds, "No, they're still on". This is a good demonstration that the outages were the result of selection and not random chance. It doesn't matter how many back-up systems, redundancies, and fail-safes you have if the main guy in charge of the computer systems running the park (Nedry) bypasses and disables them all. If I were Hammond's lawyer, I would argue the fences going down and the animals getting out should be tacked onto Nedry's case, not Hammond's.

[@Dark_Mishra]

I kind of have to argue that sabotage should have been a foreseeable issue because it’s a DINOSAUR PARK. Having such a unique property, they should have been expecting some kind of espionage by another company to do the exact thing Nedry was attempting. If Nedry had been successful, that company would be reverse engineering the embryos and likely starting up their own kind of dinosaur attraction. Especially considering Hammond DID in fact “spare an expense” by apparently not paying Nedry enough - and their argument looked pretty heated to me, so if Hammond hasn’t been so blindly enthusiastic about the park, he should’ve realized sooner that Nedry might attempt some kind of sabotage.

[@Azhrei2]

Going into the book as well as the movie to explain this one, but they did have systems in place to prevent this kind of thing. they had doors that required specific security clearance levels, security cameras, and key tracing on the computers to keep track of what the operators were doing. The book even states that when he tried to turn off key checks and safeties, the OS wouldn't let him which is how the others were able to trace Nedry's actions. The book even emplies that had Nedry not had the proper clearances when he tried to turn those systems off, an alarm would have been raised instead of the system just thinking he was making a series of mistakes. Because Nedry had high enough clearence to access admin levels on the computers, he was able to create and install a program that would allow him to affect the code that ran certain processes in the park to enact his plan. You have a good point in regards to low level workers and outside actors, but no one can really forsee THE head guy in charge of running and maintaining the computer systems to engage in corporate espionage.

[@enadegheeghaghe6369]

@@Dark_Mishra Nedrey wasn't in financial trouble because he wasn't paid enough. He was in trouble because he was a gambler

[@JackXombi]

"Spared no expense", IT department is one guy burning out. That's corporate for you.

[@AdmiralBison]

I personally understand this.

[@JxKITCH]

@@AdmiralBison DUANE!!

[@horselotr]

Nedry was the IT guy and did experience burnout. It's why Dodgeson was able to recruit him to steal the embryos. He used to be InGen's IT guy but then he took a dilophosaurus to the neck.

[@JxKITCH]

@@horselotr you're restating the original comment like you disagree with it but you clearly don't?

[@horselotr]

@@JxKITCH I do agree. That last part was a very bad Skyrim reference and meme. "I used to be a (insert job) but took an arrow to the knee." I tried to change it to "I used to be InGen's IT guy but then i took a dinosaur to the neck."

[@sidneymihecoby4703]

12:17 "Okay, so the T-Rex has broken out of it's padic..." I honestly thought he was about to try to charge the T-Rex for a crime.

[@CanalTremocos]

Some medieval courts held trials of animals, but probably not under California Law.

[@edingerc]

I'd love to see the Cops slap cuffs on those tiny arms.

[@veritateseducational217]

Paddock*

[@Adplusamequalsadam]

Sidney Mihecoby now I’m imagining a T. Rex with it’s tiny arms in handcuffs haha.

[@tatwood1123]

Destruction of property, assault, murder...that t-rex needs a good lawyer

[@LibertyLocalizer]

Hammond: We spared no expense Narrator: Expenses were indeed spared

[@Speculativedude]

Ironically in the book that line was never actually said by Hammond. It was said only once or twice one of his managers Ed Regis who was cut from the film.

[@arohk1579]

Matthew Mazzetti 3 months ago Hammond: We spared no expense, helicopter with a faulty seatbelt for guests. That should have been the first clue for cutting corners.

[@Kakaragi]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/lXWVYXiod911fM0

[@Grigeral]

There's no way in hell you're telling me Timmy (and maybe even Lex) couldn't have fit through the gaps in the fence without having to climb over it.

[@Grigeral]

@flamingsprite savage...

[@mamafox6111]

Thank you!! I've always thought that. We can clearly see Timmy can fit through the gap.

[@Grigeral]

@@mamafox6111 less suspenseful though lol

[@Matt_History]

The fences have smaller wire at the base for smaller dinosaurs

[@Grigeral]

@@Matt_History I'm talking fitting through even that. They were basically split in half from some smaller wire. Kids are unbelievable agile when it comes to stuff like that. They're like cats lol.

[@mcaskey358]

Um, wouldn't Nedry also be responsible for poisoning whomever eats that pie he contaminated with shaving cream?

[@MrEddiyOwen]

it has to be illegal, i really want to know what the crime would be though?!?

[@drmadjdsadjadi]

MrEddiyOwen Product tampering.

[@brunohommerding3416]

it wouldnt poison anyone, just give a stomachache at most, and that if the person actually ingested the stuff, which is unlikely since anyone putting the cream in their mouth would immediately taste and spit it out. Anyway, it still probably counts as something illegal

[@seraphina985]

@@brunohommerding3416 Also it looked to me like the food had already been sold and they simply decided against eating it leaving it abandoned on the table. Pretty sure there is no duty to ensure food you abandon is safe for anyone to eat, now if you were to explicitly represent that the food was safe for consumption or perhaps implicitly represent the same by acting in a way that would cause a reasonable person to believe this was the case (returning the food to a buffet table or similar) I doubt this would apply. There are after all inherent risks in consuming someone else's food waste that and even waste is technically still property in most jurisdictions so taking it without permission is itself theft courts tend to frown on thieves later complaining the thing they stole caused them harm. So I would have thought that by either of these rationales this would not be an issue here there is no evidence of intent to set a trap here so I don't see product tampering or similar applying here, if someone were to get sick stealing food abandoned by the previous customer I think they would be on their own there.

[@kevinmcguire5696]

Thanks, Newman!

[@stephanecaron8894]

A few Objections: 1) Jurassic Park is located in Costa Rica's jurisdiction, so Costa Ricain criminal, civil, and workplace safety laws from around 1995 needs to be applied, not current US laws. 2) Regarding all the armed workers at the beginning of the film, you might want to apply military war-zone OHS standards instead of the OHS standards for normal workplaces. Given the degree of risk involved with the velociraptors the high number of armed men would be appropriate. 3) In regards to the way the dinosaur fossils were hung in the lobby of the Visitors' Centre: is the responsibility on Hammond / Jurassic Park / InGen or on the on the sub-contracted company that did the fossil installation? Unlike the issue with the electric fences, I don't think Hammond and other senior Jurassic Park / InGen officials and managers would be involved in that type of minute details. Also shouldn't the issue with how the fossils were hung be caught by the Costa Ricain building inspector that should of regularly be checking in on the building construction?

[@Kreeos]

"caught by the Costa Ricain building inspector that should of regularly be checking in on the building construction? " LOL. You're funny. Hammond probably paid off the inspectors.

[@laffitup117]

A point on the fossil desplay,if i may?first of all,the majoraty of "complete" skeletons are not in fact actually real fossils but are instead simply casts of bones that have been found over the years.and secondly,the skeletal structure is normaly thread onto a armature similar to what is found in stop-motion puppets.im sorry if this is of no relivance to your descusion but it needed to be adressed.

[@olddirtyshultz]

This guy is a lawyer who has a youtube channel, hard to imagine any real life experience that people on a work site endure.

[@nurse425]

My question is: If the Island is owned by an American Corp. does US law apply. I know that US law applies to Guantanamo Bay, but, being that it's a US Military Detention Facility I'm going to guess that the circumstances are VERY different, but just curious.

[@motokuchoma]

InGen is registered as a US company and sells their tours in the US. They are liable by US law.

[@infinitechaos6927]

Objection #1 - Having worked at a zoological facility, we did indeed have loaded weapons when moving dangerous animals. Two trained staff were armed with shotguns while moving the polar bears and escorted them to and from their enclosure on the rare occasions they had to be relocated. This was done in the event they escaped and posed a threat to human life, luckily such event never happened during my time there. Objection #2 - Nedry didn't overstep his access limits. As sole programmer and system admin it was his responsibility to access all of the Jurassic Park computer systems. Objection #3 - Back-up power systems were in place to maintain the carnivore paddocks fences, however as Nedry was taking a shortcut through that area and wanted to disable the cameras and locks, he shut down everything. Objection #4 - Isla Nublar is located in Costa Rican waters and thus is not subject to OSHA or the USA legal system. Their courts follow napoleonic code, not the common law you are so versed in.

[@gastonbell108]

"Your Honor, can I fire my attorney? I found a better one."

[@derekmaggard9235]

In addition I really wouldn't be surprised people in the exact situation were required by their employer to wear hard hats.

[@DavidbarZeus1]

Sorry, but Objection #4 is overruled, as InGen is based in the US and therefore subject to US laws

[@infinitechaos6927]

@@DavidbarZeus1 You would be correct if Isla Nublar had been leased by InGen, however Isla Nublar was leased and operated by the Hammond Foundation. InGen inherited the island after Mr. Hammond's death (Novel)/ removal from the company (Film). The Hammond Foundation folded after the incident, and so an extraterritorial jurisdiction hearing would have to be held to attempt to prosecute Mr. Hammond in the US. His death or poor health depending on if we're following the book or movie would further complicate this process.

[@edwardtjbrown1979]

costa rica has a progressive labor code.

[@gorkwobbler]

Objection! You neglected to mention Hammond's negligence in hiring a single programmer for all of the park's mission-critical software. Responsible software development shops have coder peer reviews, QA tests, and penetration tests that might have prevented Nedry's malicious software from being deployed

[@clarenceartman7487]

Maybe they do NOW - this was 30 years ago when people were still using DOS

[@NaviciaAbbot]

@@clarenceartman7487 Actually, Jurassic Park ran on IRIX, a special distribution of UNIX SVR 3 made by Silicon Graphics to harness the power of the MIPS workstations they made. When Lex was at the computer, playing with the 3D file manager, she literally says "This is a UNIX system. I know this."

[@BlackXIV]

Wasn´t the point that this all happend as most of the workers in the park are on the main land for vacation? So we don´t really know how many programmers they had.. Nedry had planed to be there allone for his plan to work after all...

[@gorkwobbler]

@@BlackXIV In the movie, at least, it's heavily implied by the interaction between Nedry and Hammond. Nedry talks about writing millions of lines of code and complains he's not paid enough, and Hammond says "our lives are in your hands". We don't see any other coders through the entire course of the movie (Mr. Arnold being a sysadmin)

[@raistlarn]

Book is different. In the book Nedry had a programming company working on it, but Hammond refused to provide accurate information for Nedry's company in their initial build. Then Hammond proceeded to blackmail Nedry into fixing it for free after it broke eventhough the issues were all Hammonds fault.

[@MrJeramyMckay]

Objection: There were back-up generators for the electric fences. Nedry disabled the automatic back-up system so that he could bypass security. The T-Rex escaping was wholly Nedry's fault for disabling both primary and secondary safety features.

[@richardarriaga6271]

A storm could easily wipe out power regardless of backup generators in a park that size. The question could also fall on why there was only one user with full control of park systems who constantly had money problems and was a nepotism hire.

[@jasons4622]

As I remember it there was also a light and a buzzer to warm of fence being powered up, much like a conveyor belt.

[@megalucario4208]

But if you remember from the Lost World we learn that Hammond ran everything on geothermal power

[@epicraptorman]

@@richardarriaga6271 well alot of Jurassic Park was also ran on geothermal power namely from the volcano Mount Sibo located in the north of Isla Nublar. And no,this isn't just a new era Jurassic World addition either

[@rishigunness9794]

I was thinking along this line as well but a good secondary backup system does not rely on the same mechanics (electric fence). The backup should have been something that does not rely on Electricity. It is not hard to see that power is a very real weak point in this facility.

[@NathanTaub]

Objection!: 1) The fence failure being negligence: Electric fences aren't just a wire connected to a power main (that wouldn't be a deterrent, it would be a booby trap) they're high-voltage low-current DC power sources that are isolated from ground and as such take very little power to operate unless they are actively being discharged into something touching the fence.A hearing aid battery can power one for a fairly long time and still deliver a fairly nasty shock when touched, if only a few times. What this means is that it's likely that the fence's failure wasn't a direct result of the power failure, but was rather another effect of Nedry's sabotage -- he either wrote a virus that indiscriminately took out all systems, or else he deliberately disabled safety systems in order to cover his escape. (Source: I'm an electrical engineer who has made electric fencing for a ranch that I lived on). Let's also remember that there would normally have been a rather well-armed staff close by and ready to intervene in the event of an escape. 2) The injuries from touching the electrified fence being forseeable -- again, the engineering perspective beats this quite handily from a few different perspectives: a) No electric fence does that in real life. Tim was only making contact with the live wires, so there was no voltage potential that could result in an electric shock, electric fences don't use enough current to result in serious injury, and the way he was touching the fence would have, if he was indeed subjected to a magical electric shock , resulted in him gripping the fence even tighter rather than being flung away (and would not have resulted in cardiac arrest). It may be forseeable that at some point a human may touch an electrified fence, but it is not forseeable that the laws of physics would desert you at a critical moment. b) It is forseeable that a human may at some point touch an electric fence FROM THE GROUND, but not from dozens of feet in the air. Tim's injuries were the result of the fence being reenergized while he was midway up, far higher than a human could reach without either climbing up the fence (which could be detected by ground fault sensors on the "safe" side of the fence) or using a ladder to overcome the safety systems designed to keep humans off of it. And for good measure, there WAS a warning system which announced the impending reenergization of the system, and the usual safe energization procedure was completely ignored on account of ongoing velociraptor attacks. (As a side note, Ellie didn't read the operations manual for the control center or receive any of the proper training or certifications to operate high-voltage equipment like the containment systems, leading directly to Tim's injuries. However, I'm fairly certain that ongoing velociraptor attacks are the most clear-cut example of exigent circumstances possible, so I forgive her.) 3) Nedry's crimes: he's guilty of grand larceny and felony murder, but you missed a big 'un: SABOTAGE. Federal law only specifically uses the S-word when dealing with aircraft or defense/military properties, but there are still both federal and state-level felony charges that can be leveled against professionals who deliberately or negligently introduce serious flaws into life-preserving systems. Essentially, if you're an engineer, mechanic, administrator, or other professional entrusted with the care of a device upon which people rely for their survival, you are guilty of a felony even if no injury results. So, imagining that no dinosaurs had escaped, nobody had been hurt, the damage to the facility was easily repaired, and Nedry accidentally swiped the $3 gift shop souvenir keychain embryos instead of the real thing, he still would be sitting in jail for several years at minimum for the crime of sabotaging the safety systems in the park. In sentencing him, I'd call his actions indicative of depraved indifference due to his willingness to go far further than the minimum necessary to cover his escape -- this being the early nineties, he'd be headed for the chair unless he took a plea deal. 4) The fossil's collapse: There are multiple supports on that skeleton, and given its value they are probably designed with sacrificial elements that are intended to give way under sudden force rather than imparting that force through the bones and damaging them. I don't think any reasonable judge would even have expected a sign saying "CAUTION: BONES MAY COLLAPSE IF LEAPT UPON FROM THE BALCONY WHILST FLEEING VELOCIRAPTORS". 5) The liability of the park in general: again, Nedry deliberately crippled the park's safety systems, both in ways that are specifically called out and in ways that are not specifically mentioned but can be inferred from the ensuing events, and did so at a time when the park was both short-staffed and cut off from help due to the impending hurricane. While I'm sure that the park's insurance carrier would quietly settle rather than facing a protracted and costly battle in court, it could be argued that this was a very clear force majeur scenario due to the combination of a bad actor deliberately undermining all of the park's safety systems and a natural disaster occurring at the same time. If not for the storm, there would have been far more staff onsite trained for such a scenario, and had Nedry not sabotaged *all* of the park's systems, the dinosaur escapes wouldn't have happened in the first place. Basically, almost all of the safety issues were only safety issues because there wasn't a full staff complement on hand, someone sabotaged the park's everything, and there was no way to call for help. To relate it to a more realistic scenario: imagine that a zookeeper takes his family on an off-hours tour, and the zoo's superintendent simultaneously cuts the locks on all the cages, jams all the nearby cell towers, and grabs a lion cub with the intent of selling it on the black market. In such a case it's reasonable for even a normally well-run zoo to descend into utter chaos, and we would lay the blame for any deaths squarely at the feet of the superintendent in such a case.

[@JohnSmith-zr6fi]

Did Legal Eagle respond to this elsewhere? 'Cause this seems like a *very* solid objection!

[@NathanTaub]

@@JohnSmith-zr6fi I added it several months after the video was posted, so I'm not sure he's looked at it yet

[@Snubrevolver]

Awesome response. I learned a heck of a lot thanks for posting

[@sorrenblitz805]

So you’re correct but a fence with enough shock to deter a thick hide dinosaur would likely need a higher current to deliver and even higher DC voltage to produce a sufficient shock. The real problem is that he’s grabbed the fence with both hands making a complete circuit path through his heart. 100 milliamperes is enough to kill you and I have to imagine the current on that fence is well over a full ampere

[@NathanTaub]

@@sorrenblitz805the fence shouldn't even be passing a microamp at rest, and when touched it should be delivering less than 5mA. Electric fences are current - limited devices that won't deliver more than their rated current even if you short them, and even an animal with a tough hide doesn't need much current to experience pain when exposed to over 1 kV. As for your statement that Tim experienced a shock through both hands, remember that both hands were gripping the same wire, making a shock impossible in the first place; also understand that electric fences work by having a high voltage relative to the ground, not by requiring you to make contact with two wires to complete the circuit, and since Tim wasn't touching the ground at all he wouldn't have been shocked. (As a side note, Alan was spot - on when he told Tim to jump, since that would have ensured Tim didn't touch a live and grounded contact at the same time. If you're trapped in contact with a high-voltage wire, the best thing to do is bunny-hop away, keeping your feet together until you're at least fifty feet away )

[@doornik1142]

4:55 Nedry is also guilty of food adulteration. He contaminated someone's slice of pie with shaving cream.

[@fastertrackcreative]

Think it was his own food

[@doornik1142]

@@fastertrackcreative It looks like it’s on the next table.

[@jiminbang5822]

At least it was a type of cream lol

[@patrickt49]

@@fastertrackcreative No, food that's meant for you will be put on your table.

[@dwightsmith3815]

@@patrickt49 damn, i cracked up on your response, nice one haha

[@RavynArcadia]

Jurassic Park is the prime example of why you never go cheap on your IT department.

[@michaelcividanes2930]

Ironically, the book would present JP as an example of why you shouldn't black mail people into working for you. In the book, Nedry had been hired to setup the computer system for the park, but Hammond gave him the wrong specs and the system that Nedry setup was totally incapable of meeting the demands of the park, but did meet the requirements Hammond gave him. Hammond tried to strong arm Nedry into "fixing the system" (IE: Do more work then he contracted him for with out being paid for it) and Nedry told him no. In response Hammond began harassing and threatening Nedry's other clients to stop doing business with him as a means to force Nedry to work for free.

[@leeweesquee]

So..... they spared an expense

[@PA551ON]

As a JP super nerd, I have to mention that Muldoon actually makes a comment to Hammond when the group goes to see the sick Triceratops, "How many times do I have to tell you, we need locking mechanisms on the vehicle doors!" So yeah. You could absolutely add that to the negligence claims

[@vincentmarcellino7183]

Exactly. You've got a zoological professional telling you that locking mechanisms for a vehicle that's driving by deadly animals are needed. He's an animal wrangler so would know what they're capable of. Don't ignore his advice

[@AshlyView]

Not to mention the doors where able to open when the vehicles were moving. Ignoring the dinosaurs people are stupid enough to try and get out while the vehicle is moving. That would lead to someone getting run over.

[@Dark_Mishra]

This bit always confused me as a kid because car locks have probably been standard on vehicles for over 100 years. Why were the locks even an oversight on their part when the vehicles should’ve already had them? The same goes for the doors themselves even being able to get opened by the passengers. All the doors should’ve included some kind of child safety locks so they could only be opened by the park employees to let them out once the ride was over.

[@MasterBirb]

What if a dinosaur rolled a car over or a vehicle fire or crash happened How would the passengers get out?

[@Dark_Mishra]

@@MasterBirb I see your point there… The vehicles obviously didn’t have any kind of safety feature like their own version of an OnStar alert system to tell the security room when a vehicle’s been in a crash - heck no air bags ever deploy either when the T-Rex flips the truck over or during the tree scene later!

[@simontheblind8417]

This has probably been mentioned, but it's worth noting that in "Jurassic Park" the novel, the lawyer is one of the more selfless and openly heroic characters: a father himself, he puts life and limb on the line to save the kids.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

The source material doesn't factor into the product that's made from it. We can really only use or refer to information in the actual movie.

[@Bonesph]

He is at first a coward but then has a epiphany.

[@thunderflare59]

Like when he bravely hid from compies? I agree he's a great character, but that's because he's flawed.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

@@thunderflare59 all great characters are flawed I believe.

[@chriswaltman5313]

Just like in the book Hammond is a callous, single, middle aged business man. Not the caring, loving grandfather as in the film.

[@JoshGilmorefoo]

Objection - the car doors on the tour were not supposed to be able to be opened, it was one of the bugs Nedry was supposed to fix. Objection #2 (although this is more from the book) - Hammond undersold the complexity of the park to everyone involved. Nedry was there specifically because the project ran over budget and Hammond blackmailed him to fix the bugs for free or he would use his influence to make sure Nedry would never work again. This is the main reason why Nedry was able to be recruited for corporate espionage. I would argue that Hammond is way more liable for every thing, he lied to his employees and investors (that's also the reason Gennaro was there, to check the park and report back to the investors). Also if it makes you feel any better, the lawyer was such a better character in the book and survived the whole ordeal. It was a PR guy that got eaten by the T. Rex.

[@DeadPixel1105]

Yeah, Hammond is nowhere near as innocent, clueless, well-intentioned, and "grandfatherly" in the book. And Gennaro wasn't a coward or bad guy at all.

[@CT-Cookie]

"The only one I have on my side is the blood sucking layer" Legal Eagle will remember that

[@phoenixhunteryt7554]

TellTale reference.

[@chriskratchman6130]

Ya!

[@Fuzy2K]

*Calls the lawyer "bloodsucking", builds a business on taking blood from a mosquito*

[@MapMonkeyTube]

The blood sucking lawyer taking offense to the claim that another blood sucking lawyer could be on the client's side was telling.

[@GadZip]

Blood sucking layer? As in Shrek?

[@TrexelCat]

19:04 The fences are clearly labeled to be high voltage. With signage at normal human sight range. As shown before they started climbing the fence in that scene. I'm not a lawyer, but I believe that clearly posting signs is, for the time, considered legal and a proper defense against humans touching the fence. Coupled with the fact that the fences are raised to such a height, and back far enough that the characters in that scene had to climb up onto a concrete slab, then had enough room to comfortably stand back from the fence and toss a stick at it(the signs told them it would be electrified, so they had to test). Putting the fences far enough back on the slab that one would have to actively climb up to touch it. I believe in this scene, adequate protection against humans touching the fence has been observed. However, locking the car doors would add an extra layer to that protection. The park is still legally pretty screwed. Just a small nit.

[@Aredel]

As a presumably sensible adult with the slightest hint of critical thinking, do you honestly think a child or adolescent is going to pay attention to those signs? We clearly see that the boy can climb up the slab and onto the fence. Any judge or jury would still throw the book at the park for failing to take more preventative measures than "pretty please".

[@Aaa-vp6ug]

Also, accidents happen What if an adult who read the sign tripped over and fell on it

[@Lars6138]

You're partly right. In fact, a similar thing has been discussed on this channel regarding similar situations. There's definetly a responsibility, up to a point, to protect people from their own stupidity, and in case that fails, their stupidity will be considered in favour of the people who were negligent, if we assume their negligence. It's usually a percentage, like 50/50 or 20/80 and vice versa. In this case, in my memory, the signs were hanging on the fence directly and were far apart from each other, thus hard to see before it's too late. There should've been non-electrical fences and signs blocking the way to the proper fences. Bare minimum precautions aren't proper precautions, so they add to the negligence.

[@TrexelCat]

@@Lars6138 However, proper precautions were made. There are in an area of the park not normally accessible to the public. That is an internal paddock boundary fence between two enclosures. Which means, they had to, at minimum, get though one other fence to get there. Like, the tyrannosaur fence from earlier. But again, while that exact section of fence is covered, the rest of the park is legally screwed. And you're right, there is a whole lot of negligence on the part of the park. My comment though was only about that particular segment.

[@RoyalKnightVIII]

Oh man I wanna see him do The Incredibles, specifically the scene where Mr incredible is sued for foiling a suicide

[@connorshea9085]

+

[@reapermaster1233]

Yes. Even though matpat already did it

[@jimmyseaver3647]

Reapermaster 123 Does Matpat have a law degree?

[@e4ehco21]

@@jimmyseaver3647 no but I'm not a professional athlete, does that mean I can't run

[@jimmyseaver3647]

E4EHCO There's a difference between a glorified morning jog and figuring out whether or not somebody's life will be effectively (or literally) over.

[@MaxKongo]

Start of the video: Blood sucking lawyer I take offense to that 3:24 I shouldn't laugh at this carnage

[@Mahaodeh]

To Jen Farmer: the money is supposedly going to the dead people’s families as compensation for their loss. I’d say that he would be a bloodsucker to the person that caused the death but not to the dead person’s family. It depends on who you are rooting for I suppose.

[@cliffroach]

OBJECTION: Since actual dinosaur fossils are usually to heavy to mount and too valuable to display most of the ones you see are actually lightweight replicas - usually fiberglass. This especially true of large species like the two seen here. So the extra weigh of people and dinosaurs could pull the skeletons free of their moorings without there necessarily being any negligence involved.

[@VeerleTakino]

Especially considering that the reason that the scaffolding they climbed off of onto the display was there because the display was still under construction

[@seekerofalice9787]

The dust from the collapsing fossils and the looks on the inside that we see when they fall to the ground seem to indicate that the fossils were real and not fiberglass replicas.

[@iamme4552]

@@seekerofalice9787 True, but they are right about the display being under construction. The displays were also not designed for horizontal swinging and when they separated it is likely that some cables ended up holding more weight than they were rated for while others had less. Only parts of the display fell after all.

[@zodiac7287]

Speaking as a mechanical engineer this could be construed as negligence. The design of the product or support structure in this case has to to a reasonable extent not endanger it's user or those that would reasonably come into contact with the support structure or product. In that same breath, the product or support structure has to be reasonably designed against misuse. The reasonable misuse here would be patrons or tourists climbing onto the dinosaur skeleton, and that a failure to design for this reasonable misuse would be negligence. The blame for the negligence, should damages occur, could either be on the Jurassic Park itself for not reasonably denying access to climbing onto the skeleton, the design of the weak supports, or both. One comparable case for the failure to design for misuse was for a case against Xerox back in the day for a person that broke through the glass of the photocopying machine while photographing their butt. The injured person successfully sued for damages as the product was not reasonably designed against the reasonable misuse of someone sitting on the machine, which gained popularity culturally thanks in part to artists like Andy Worhal who experimented with using photocopying machines to copy parts of the human body and such. So by comparison to Jurassic park, there was a reasonable expectation that tourists would climb onto the dinosaur skeleton given easy access and the notion that riding on a dinosaur would be a popular, albeit bad, idea--similar to having an exposed electric fence that people could latch onto and injure themselves. Video of Guy sitting on photocopying machine and being injured: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmSoZaudnMyoprs

[@loryndabenson5840]

@@zodiac7287 wow. I feel like photocopying your ass should not be reasonable misuse. Copy machines should not need to be designed to to hold the weight of a human but that's sue happy America for you I guess

[@RogueShadows]

Objection: Arnold and Muldoon did not die due to Nedry's direct actions. When he deactivated the park's power in general, it is specifically mentioned in the movie that he did not deactivate the power to the raptor paddock. The raptors didn't escape until Hammond's effort to restore power (over Arnold's objections) resulted in a total power loss throughout the park, shutting down the raptor paddocks.

[@DMalltheway]

Yup and they should’ve realized that and had 3 people with AKs surrounding it

[@nephite467]

@@DMalltheway aks would be useless there

[@DMalltheway]

@@nephite467 Not at all, when they see the raptors picking the fence they shoot to scare them

[@denisucuuu]

@@nephite467 a pistol was enough to put down a raptor and nearly kill it (had it not received medical attention) in Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom, I dont see how these raptors would survive an ak

[@nephite467]

@@denisucuuu that was one raptor though not several that’s the diffrence

[@Jones209]

Now I want him to analyze the laws broken in Jurassic World, it's probably way more.

[@craftyyt2745]

well at least they have concrete walls!

[@RainAngel111]

Yeah I wondered about what his reaction to Jurassic World would be. It felt like the safety measures were way better in Jurassic world, but the deathasaurus or whatever it was called was just smarter than they expected.

[@SleepySloth2705]

@The Mandalorian outrunning a tyrannosaur with high heels for instance, and a pteranodon carrying an adult human

[@addust]

@@RainAngel111 INDOMINUS

[@bubbykins4864]

@@SleepySloth2705 And, as I mentioned, DNA's half-life somehow not only being non-existent, but not mixing to become the Paleozoic.

[@samspade1620]

People at a zoo: It's over elephant, I have the high ground.

[@incompleteriver770]

Elephant: You underestimate my trunk.

[@rajeevpandey7125]

Keeper: don't try it elle

[@wren7195]

@@rajeevpandey7125 *Picks up severed trunk and walks off* "You were my pachyderm oliphant, I LOVED you!"

[@AviChetriArtwork]

Zoo keeper: I sense Elle is in danger.

[@pj9100]

Yes, also insert kid falling into gorilla pen. Who's laughing now 🦍

[@stocktonjoans]

LegalEagle: "i'm sure no zoo arms their employees with cattleprods and automatic weapons" Joe Exotic: "Hold my beer!"

[@jazzybeat3076]

At least in the book, they do have powerful backup generators, but Nedry turns them off to increase confusion and make his escape easier.

[@enlightendbel]

He didn't even notice the freakin FLAMETHROWERS in the same scene.

[@robertbennett883]

Joe wouldn't give the employees lethal fire power those "dinosaurs" are highly valuable bioengineered creatures worth millions a piece. While Joe's volunteers... are replaceable

[@Red_the_Mage]

But let's remember, these are dinos not Rinos or lions

[@victoralvarez3708]

I am so grateful to be alive today. My girlfriend saved my life last night. This is a selfie I took in the emergency room after having a severe allergic reaction to almonds. I went into anaphylaxis, meaning my face, my lips, my eyes, my tongue, and my throat all started swelling up rapidly, making it almost impossible for me to breathe. I also had a rash all over my entire body, and I was extremely red. Staying alive had never felt more difficult. At one point, my nasal passage was completely blocked, and it was getting more and more difficult to breathe. They shot me up with Benadryl, steroids, they gave me a breathing tube, and even other stuff that I can’t even remember, and it caused all of the swelling and the rash to go away. Because this was a severe allergic reaction, I need to continue taking steroids and Benadryl for the next week, because it is possible that the allergic reactions could come back at any point over the next week. The steroids and Benadryl make me feel like a zombie, and I really want to take care of my health, so this will be my main focus over the next week. I want to thank my amazing girlfriend, who made the decision to take me to the emergency room the second I started feeling itchy. I was hesitant about going, because I didn’t even want to believe this was actually happening. If it weren’t for my girlfriend driving me to the emergency room only minutes after eating the almonds, there is a good chance that I wouldn’t have made it according to the doctor. This has been without a doubt the hardest few days of my life, but I also look at them as the most important few days of my life. These moments have reminded me about what’s really important in life, and it has made me so grateful to even be here on this earth. I will be prioritizing my health over the next week, and I’ll post updates about how I feel. Thank you all for being patient during these difficult times. This week has been NUTS (too soon for jokes? 😅)

[@robertmorgan2723]

Its standard practice, for any zoo or exotic animal reserve with large carnivorous animals is to have a shoot gun and tranquilizer stored in two separate locations with both available at each location

[@ApokalyptikNM]

True but we're talking dinosaurs here? Would they have enough time to get the tranqs before the dinosaur escaped the facility.. or theme park or the dinosaur could kill the guy or girl before they time to shoot the animal..

[@a2pabmb2]

@ApocalypikCurse Bruh, a loose dino doesn't stop being a threat in need of dealing with after its first snack

[@Stormkrow280]

In the book they didn’t have shotguns, oh no They had rocket launchers.

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

@@Stormkrow280 Not just rocket launchers but also tranq rockets.

[@petitebiogeek]

RIP Harambe

[@iDatedMyPizza]

You forgot to mention that Nedry tampered that poor man's pie. That is food tampering.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

I'm not surebut I think that food might have been on their table so at that point they own it and can do what they want with it. I can't really tell if it's on their table or it's just a dessert cart.

[@Ryokoranger]

@@zekezzekekan2144 The waiter was serving the table behind Nedry at that time. it was a tray for him but as a choice option that would have moved on to the next table shortly. He poisoned that pie with the shaving cream. I doubt he would have even gotten back to work with that investigation going on.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

@@Ryokoranger thanks for clearing that up. Yeah even if you didn't die he was never going back to the island would you?

[@rogersstinson4019]

His name is Dodson

[@tatwood1123]

Objection! Sometimes zoos do have lethal weapons as a last ditch effort, just in case a dangerous animal creates problems. A raptor would qualify as a dangerous animal

[@TotalDbag24]

The Harambe incident for example

[@thermobollocks]

You'd want properly trained and qualified zoological or security personnel, licensed to carry firearms occupationally in their state or nation.

[@tatwood1123]

@Iafiv Iv good point, did Isla nueva or whatever it was called belong to any specific country?

[@ranasuka6006]

@@tatwood1123 Probably to Costa Rica

[@CriticalBrony]

@@tatwood1123 Hammond mentions that he has leased the island from the Costa Rican government. That means that the park is subject to Costa Rican law and taxes.

[@AlexejCeros]

I need “I’m sorry, I shouldn’t laugh at this carnage.” On a tshirt

[@meeeka]

And in this age.... perfect T-shirt. Oh, and Nedry doesn't "pass away." Rather, he "passes through" the dilophosaurus.

[@MeDuderify]

Sums up our political situation in 2020 am I right?

[@Laecy]

This just keeps getting more apt.

[@clownplayer7265]

Slasher movies fans' catchphrase.

[@JSB-2Z-2K]

"i shouldnt laugh at this carnage" It's ok we understand, you're a lawyer. You left your humanity in college

[@TheKobasen]

The Negligence of Hammond is also the fact that he entrust the whole park system to one guy and you didn't pay him enough to be loyal. This whole thing won't happen if you employed more people like nedry or just gave him what he wants.

[@mk17173n]

aka dont underpay qualified people and dont outsource jobs.

[@speedracer2008]

To be fair, it is stated by Hammond that Nedry’s financial problems were self-inflicted, especially since Nedry specifically bid for his pay. He should have bid higher if he wasn’t happy with his payment. That being said, Hammond should definitely not have entrusted the system to one IT guy.

[@ChristophBrinkmann]

@@speedracer2008 Right. It's not the employer's fault the employer didn't pay more despite having plenty of money to do so. It's the employee's fault for not asking for more. Just like it's the employee's fault for having expenses, right? If you have billions of dollars, saying it's the employee's fault for not having enough money is pathetic.

[@speedracer2008]

@@ChristophBrinkmann Well, Hammond can’t put all of his money to paying Nedry, plus, given how greedy Nedry is, he’d still probably be unsatisfied with the money given. Not to mention that, if Nedry is spending money recklessly, which wouldn’t be too out of character for him, it’s not Hammond’s responsibility to give him more money to compensate him. It’s Nedry’s responsibility to control his spending.

[@DMalltheway]

That’s in the book, in the movie he was greedy.

[@zakd2124]

Objection (and question): how many of these laws and regulations are different, seeing as the island is under the jurisdiction of Costa Rica?

[@jephmat]

I was gonna ask the same thing. An American company, but working in Costa Rica's jurisdiction. Do American laws still apply?

[@droptak]

@@jephmat depends where the headquarters are

[@LDProductionsClass]

Privately owned island off the coast of Costa Rica

[@rat488]

There is more awkwardness because the book explains a world where pharmaceutical corporations have essentially taken over the world by developing various forms of gene therapy.

[@BrentsCardsAndCoins]

jephmat If you are an American citizen visiting another country, you are still required to obey US law.

[@predaking333]

I love how he says "you don't see Zoo's with Cattle prods and M16's" you don't see Zoo's with dinosaurs either lol

[@anthonyhayes1267]

Truth be told, they were probably Colt SP-1's

[@Snowtail07]

@@anthonyhayes1267 Actually they were M16A1's, SPAS-12, and the armory has a HK91

[@anthonyhayes1267]

@@Snowtail07 I couldn't see the selectors. I just imagined that semi auto m-16 clones would be easier for the film makers to use (less paperwork probably). On that note, the Spas-12s make a lot of sense due to the variety of ltl shells they're optimized for.

[@hueytlatoani1177]

@Craig Simpson: Well, he have a violation of the law of physics. And a big sin, when the main character lady is running through the woods/jungle in high heels, out-running a dinno.

[@CorgeekWx]

They don't arm zoos with cattle prods for a Komodo Dragon. There going to compare it to that lol

[@alexq3498]

OBJECTION: OSHA has no jurisdiction in Costa Rica.

[@somethingsomethingsomethingdar]

Lol

[@zerospaceca3376]

@Alex Q: You sure bruh? Costa Rica is an American territory. Edit: Apparently Puerto Rico is what I was thinking of, not Costa Rica. I know there are other places that are in fact American territories, like Guam and American Samoa. And amusingly (?) enough, they don't get to vote for President at all, ironic given Why America fought England for their independance.

[@paulkopp4587]

@@zerospaceca3376 no it isn't

[@RyujinNoKami]

@@zerospaceca3376 I think the place you're talking about is Puerto Rico my good sir

[@JaggedBird]

@@zerospaceca3376 objection! They have independant rule and are an independant nation close to Cuba in the Mexican Gulf. You're thinking of Pureto Rico which IS an island that's part of the States close to the Gulf as well.

[@DaisyAzuras]

In the book, the Lawyer is the hero that saves almost everyone. He’s also described as muscular and handsome. They removed that character from the movie and called the Ed Regis the Lawyer.

[@michaelcividanes2930]

well "hero" may be a bit of an exaggeration, but he definitely wasn't the cowardly short-sighted pin-head we see in the movie. I mean Grant did have to spell it out for him why they needed to survey the island to figure out how many dinosaurs were actually there instead of just carpet bombing it and calling it a day.

[@cameravice1825]

“Tiny arm claws” remember he’s an attorney, not a palaeontologist

[@BigBossMan538]

Imma sue anyways

[@KaylaMarie_]

Paleontologists recently concluded that because of the t rex's tiny arm claws they were more likely to he scavengers not hunters. Which makes some of Jurassic Park's most frightening scenes unrealisitic.

[@AdmiralBison]

@@KaylaMarie_ remember the law when it comes to movies. "Don't let facts, truth or logic get in the way of a good story"

[@KaylaMarie_]

@@AdmiralBison true. But they didnt know that particular fact way back in the 90s.

[@flaringafro]

​@@KaylaMarie_ By that logic wolves and crocodiles don't hunt because they don't have powerful front legs that can grab and rip apart their prey like a cat. Some predators only use their mouths and a t-rex's jaw seems overkill for scavenging, unless it usually is used for fighting to steal other's killings - but if it can fight off other predators we loop back around to it being able to hunt and kill prey. Also given the size of the t-rex, it seems implausible that it would survive mostly off of scavenging without fighting off other predators for their prey. Think of how many mostly eaten carcasses it would have to find in order to sustain itself.

[@4747474747bigal]

You'd've liked the book version of Gennaro. Instead of a coward, he's a big buff super-lawyer who fights a raptor with his bare hands.

[@akifhassan4521]

@Buddy Mayfield That was Ed Regis, not the lawyer.

[@AlexSciChannel]

@@akifhassan4521 no Ed Regis was a coward park worker that got eaten by a baby t rex. Gennaro is a badass body builder super lawyer

[@MellSayzHi]

I actually had to look that up and see if it's true...now I'm mad they didn't have that in a movie I would have loved to see a raptor get sucker punched

[@ripperthesmilingindoraptor]

@@MellSayzHi Try sucker punching my friends and I'll fold you in half backwards. Nothing personal, I just have to defend them

[@MellSayzHi]

@@ripperthesmilingindoraptor I feel like I'm in a fever dream right now wtf

[@chrisbuttonshaw2088]

"That seems like a terribly designed system" ....... Jurassic Park in a nutshell lol

[@Quinntus79]

But they spared no expense.

[@iamme4552]

To the board members: “Some expense was spared.” 1) Hired a single programmer to write over 2 million lines of code 2) spent millions on recreating dinosaurs but wouldn’t drop a few thousand for containers to move the animals that properly locked into place and had automated open/close mechanisms so some poor handler wouldn’t have to be precariously perched on top to lift the gate 3) made no allowance for the fences to not be electrified in a region known for hurricanes where even if the power weren’t knocked out the likelihood of them having to turn the fences off was high due to either torrential downpour or simply trees/branches being blown into the fences 4) did not hire a knowledgable paleontologist with museum experience to design skeleton display or to make sure poisonous plants were kept beyond the reach of small children/pets 5) used GPS-based land rover auto-drive systems instead of preprogrammed courses that were dependent on nothing outside the vehicle in a hurricane zone 6) set system to fail-safe with doors unlocked in a park with numerous aggressive intelligent carnivores 7) put electrical subsystems in it’s own building without building a maintenance tunnel to get there 8) no visible pipes/cables above ground and no tunnel means the utilities were buried prolonging any downtime while they dig them up to fix a problem 9) I think the question must be asked, how much did Hammond insure this park for?

[@frannymcb_]

@@iamme4552 love the idea of pets also visiting Jurassic Park 😂 my parents have to chaperone their dog in their suburban backyard because of coyotes but absolutely Hammond would allow pets, for a surcharge 👏

[@tranquilthoughts7233]

To be fair, in the book the system was much better designed. Still critically flawed but not to the same extent as in the movie. For example, in the book there actually was an entire system of moats criss crossing though the entire island that kept most of the dinosaurs contained within their enclosures. The problem was that moat system was also used as major transportation routes and the veloceraptors managed to get into the moat system thus gaining almost unrestricted acces to the entire island. There also was a huge wall aroujnd almost the entire circumference of the island. The problem there was that there was an undiscovered cave that created a passage underneath the wall to the beach. And that passage was actually what the veloceraptors used to get onto a ship leaving the island.

[@monsterfurby]

In the words of GoldenTusk's beautiful Jurassic Park with Lyrics song: "Jurassic Park - what could possibly go wrong?"

[@chrismcdonald9551]

20:50 Objection: The skeletons only buckled and fell apart when the Velociraptor landed an attack on them. The Jurassic Park raptors weigh 330 IBS and with their strength they could feasible add enough stress to the display. And the architects having these displays designed with the idea of these dinosaurs being contained, they only created a support structure most likely seen in a common museum.

[@Aredel]

Yeah, but those fossils are thousands of pounds at the very least. If the suspension cables can't handle a few hundred more, then it's still a shit design that'd see them pegged for negligence.

[@NotASpyPootis]

@@Aredel see them what now?

[@Matt_History]

​@@Aredel why do you assume these are real fossils? It's universal practice to never use real fossils because of how fragile they are.

[@Aredel]

@@Matt_History even if they are fake (which they likely are), the point still stands. Suspension cables shouldn’t immediately snap the minute they’re tested by the addition of a few children and one adult when they’re already holding up that much weight. That’s still a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@alexh.9232]

Objection: Hammond at one point asks Mr. Arnold why the backup generators haven't come on. Nedrey hacked those as well.

[@robbiejames1540]

Tbh, the backup generators need to be so reliable that they probably shouldn't have anything hackable, but it definitely shifts more blame towards nedry and away from jp

[@drathscion]

@@robbiejames1540 nothing computer controlled in unhackable when you are on the inside. If you have local access you own the system. Nedry had admin privileges in a system he was coding. No reasonable person would expect their lead coder to sabotage the entire system like nedry did. So the objection is a good point. Just like the fact at the beginning of the movie them mention a system of moats being in place for safety. In the car scene there is clearly a very deep moat between the rex and the cars. So how did the rex get there? did it fly? did it jump 2 times is body length? With the exception of the worker at the beginning Hammonds liability seemed to be very minor. After all who would foresee, his own staff systematically dismantling all the security at the park in the way Nedry did?

[@robbiejames1540]

@@drathscion I was more meaning that it shouldn't be computer controlled, and instead use maybe a couple of resistors and a transistor or something to detect power failure. Nedry should not have clearance to enter the generator room, so sabotage should be difficult. While I agree that no one could expect or fully mitigate for the consequences of the lead programmer going against you, there really should have been a small team for something that large, who might have picked up on his actions and been able to prevent or undo them.

[@Mostlyharmless1985]

I think that if you can have a disgruntled employee unleash deadly animals to attack people in your park, you have a pretty freaking severe security issue, number one rule in IT security is you never ever place too much in one persons hands, nedry shouldn’t have access to both the generators and the backup generators. And miss me with that “he did a hack on it.” The generators and the backups should have been segmented and air-gapped and triple redundant as they were responsible for “dinosaurs not eating people” Two is one and one is none. My expert opinion says Hammond was negligent in his IT infrastructure.

[@Tygari]

Was going to post and say this. There are backups and backups to the backups. Nedrey shut it all off.

[@TransSappho]

20:45 as a paleontologist I can confirm that those fossils(though they’re probably just casts) do weigh thousands and thousands of pounds and absolutely should’ve been mounted more carefully. There are museums where they let you touch some of the casts because the displays are simply that stable, so this is a serious issue

[@prabhatsourya3883]

Just a doubt, is the fossil just the preserved bone, or is it combined with some rock material (as it is buried in rock for millions of years? What exactly does a fossil consist of? Would be very helpful if you could enlighten me.

[@TransSappho]

@@prabhatsourya3883 Generally what happens is that the bone becomes replaced with minerals molecule by molecule. Bone doesn’t really last long enough to preserve over millions of years otherwise. The level of detail with which the fossil is preserved is also heavily dependent on the kind of mineral which forms the fossil. That’s actually part of why it’s so heavy. Dinosaurs generally had pretty hollow bones. Those bones still would’ve been heavy but not as heavy as a rock

[@prabhatsourya3883]

​@@TransSappho Thanks for the Heads up dude, I always used to think how these fossils would work. I have another doubt: The dinosaur models that are usually constructed out of fossils, do you guys get the entire skeleton, or is there some guesswork involved when some bones are missing? (I know from basic biology that an educated guess can be made about the missing anatomy when a majority of the picture is available). And if so, how difficult could it be? It's just a small interest in the field.

[@TransSappho]

@@prabhatsourya3883 there can be quite a lot of guess work involved. In some cases a species is know only from a few teeth or a few vertebrae. What’s done in those cases is that the rest of the skeleton is inferred from better known species that we think are closely related to it. It’s a very difficult process, and almost no skeletons are ever found in their entirety. On top of that, some of the most unique features tend to be very fragile. Skulls have a tendency to get crushed or flattened meaning we have to do a lot of work to reconstruct what they originally looked like. Personally my research is focused more on reconstructing relationship between species based on the features of their anatomy, but I’ve seen reconstructions in progress from fossils I’ve helped prepare and it’s a fairly long process

[@JPdelValle88]

Remember that the fossil are well assembled and thy have support on the dinosaurs own legs, they broke apart when the velociraptor jumps from a 2nd/3rd floor to try to eat the Dr Grant, Ellie and the kids, so they were well assembled.

[@ahnalee]

Objection: You are assuming that this facility is located within the United States, when in actuality, the Island is located within Costa Rica. While Costa Rica and the US are close trading partners, OSHA regulations would not apply.

[@AudraT]

Thank you for saying this! I was searching the comments for this. When is the good lawyer going to respond to this objection?

[@jerryc3467]

@@AudraT Being a presumably American company with presumably American citizens making up most of the employee base, would OSHA not be able to go after them regardless of their facility location? The family of that dead worker seemed to feel like they had *some* standard against which to make a case of negligence, after all, since that pending lawsuit is the entire reason the experts are invited to the island.

[@kateNwilson]

@@jerryc3467 yes I agree with this. I also thought if it was an American company it has to go by American standards.

[@jessicataylor7174]

@@jerryc3467 No lol, OSHA can't just 'go after them' regardless of location. Jurisdiction is exceptionally important in the law.

[@jessicataylor7174]

@Mary Burdette Yes but it would be thrown out way before it reached any court. Technically it would never 'be in' to be able to be 'thrown out'. OSHA is not recognised as an authority outside the US, and laws and conditions to be OSHA compliant are meaningless outside the US.

[@AwesomeJambo]

23:20 “Hammond & The Park” Gennaro actually mentions early in the movie (at the Amber dig site) that “we’re facing a $20million lawsuit from the family of that [park employee eaten by the raptor at the start of the movie] worker…” So it’d be a higher total, most likely.

[@HAMF9666]

LegalEagle: *Dennis Nedrey is going to prison for life* Viewers: How. He's dead.

[@Rugelacharugula]

Actually Dennis Nedry is dead. Dennis Nedrey may not be...

[@JR-ju3kj]

I believe he meant had Nedry LIVED,he would surely be going to prison for the rest of his natural life.

[@andrewgrant6516]

He was in-car-cerated with a very small cellmate.

[@Wilbtube]

His life sentence was the shortest prison sentence ever.

[@Riftsrunner]

Yes, but as he explained everybody associated with the conspiracy gets the same charges as Nedry, plus the added charge of Nedry death as well.

[@fallenhope1]

"laws broken, theyre breaking the law here!" "See nobody cares"

[@eriktruchinskas3747]

Great comment

[@Chris-ci8vs]

hahahahahaha this comment wins.

[@oddballskull1941]

Ding Dong why does someone always feel like they just have to make that claim

[@thatgrumpychick4928]

NEWMAN!!!

[@richardblack9474]

2:47 The Legal Eagle, "Zoos dont carry guns." Harambe *gets shot* Cincinnati Zoo, "Am I a joke to you?"

[@matthinton19]

That makes me sad

[@CruelestChris]

Old meme is old.

[@jkishhabi]

He didn't say zoo employees have no access to guns, just that he didn't think employees were generally permitted to walk around armed with loaded M-16s and cattle prods.

[@DeadPixel1105]

@@jkishhabi But they weren't just walking around with assault rifles like it was any other day on the job. They were transporting a deadly velociraptor. Just like prison COs don't walk around wearing riot gear and wielding a riot shield during normal work duties, but they will if they need to transport or deal with a combative, violent inmate that will attack the COs the second their cell door is opened.

[@gastonbell108]

Any zoo that keeps large predators is legally obligated (by EXTENSIVE precedent) to have some means of quickly culling one of their animals if it attempts to escape or is actively attacking somebody. Otherwise they'll be found criminally negligent if somebody is killed by an animal; aside from the civil liability, they'll lose their license to keep dangerous animals, usually resulting in a "fire sale" of large dangerous retiree predators with the healthiest being sold/donated and the rest being euthanized. If it takes shooting one animal to save the rest from that, you do it. In my youth I volunteered at a small rescue center for former circus and carnival animals (bears and tigers, mostly). It was the most snowflake hippy-dippy 99% female staffed place you'd ever visit, but there were two hardcore rules: nobody ever touches the animals unless they're sedated (instant termination if violated), and there's always one person on duty at all times who has the key to the arms locker and the training/willingness to kill one of the animals in order to stop an attack or prevent an escape. As I recall the weapon in question was a 12-gauge shotgun loaded with slugs. Not that I'd have put too much stock in the staff's marksmanship if a circus bear was eating some kid's face (the county police were much better shots and were WELL aware we had big predators on site) but the INTENT and the CAPABILITY was clearly there, and thus the legal liability was satisfied.

[@sarafalk2962]

Objection: Adding to the previous damages, everyone is reminded that John Hammond himself was the guardian of his two grandchildren during their visit. Would this be grounds for child endangerment?

[@iamaidansmith7542]

Doubt it because he was basically letting them ride a theme park ride with an adult

[@sufiblacksongkok]

Funnily enough Muldoon did say "How many time, we need locking mechanism on the vehicle door?!" before the group went out to see the Triceratop

[@KanuckStreams]

Thank you! When LegalEagle was talking about having a mechanism to keep the tourists in the vehicles, I instantly thought of Muldoon's line there!

[@Wysterian]

I was thinking of the Exact same thing! Great Minds think alike, Right?

[@mattcrossman3897]

This actually adds onto the case against Hammond, since the precaution had been foreseen and stated but no action was taken.

[@robertpatter5509]

Would that be kidnapping if the locks automatically lock? I'd imagine they all would sign a liability waiver.

[@joeywalker2061]

The park wasn't fully up and running yet though.

[@Galacticavatar]

15:05 - "There's no way for the animal to get to the high ground..." "It's over, T-Rex! I have the high ground!"

[@sopcannon]

unless it can fly

[@dickgori2623]

"You underestimate my power!" *T-Rex attempts several times to reach the fence by jumping since obviously there was no flat ground where the T-rex broke the fence, just look at when Grant was almost hit by the falling jeep*

[@podemosurss8316]

A classic, the Kenobi defense.

[@AliciaQuality]

The guns thing..."excessive weapons" when compared to the animals seems logical to me. Excessive against a cow for sure but not a carnivorous dinosaur.

[@markchapman7771]

Don't think OSHA has a protocol for that. So, there's nothing against it of you want to get technical.

[@JR-ju3kj]

I agree and not only that,I wonder if LegalEagle knows that there are ALREADY pretty high-powered guns at zoos? Granted,I've never heard of zoos with M-16s but they do have some serious firepower with different types of rifles and shotguns. I have to wonder if he's ever heard of Emergency Response Teams/Weapons Teams(they have a bunch of other names,too)at zoos.

[@DonPatrono]

1) OSHA covers all sort of venues, including firing ranges, so firearm safety is also a (pretty obscure) part of OSHA (when I took the NEBOSH course last year they told us they also covered safety measures for places where firearms and firearm use is commonplace, but that is normally a separate course) 2) If anything the liability is the use of a military weapon almost completely inappropriate for the type of animal they are facing. We are talking about beasts weighting twice if not more of an elephant and you try to counter them using a fully automatic (thus requiring a specific type of training) small calibre high velocity armor-piercing projectile which is amazingly uneffective against that kind of animal? I think even the movie's small Dilophosaurs could withstand enough 5,56 rounds to get into spitting or nomming distance. I'd say a battle-rifle (a la G3, FAL, M14) or a civilian semiauto hunting rifle (Browning Auto Rifle serie, Saiga, Springfield, you name it) in a larger calibre (.308/7,62x51mm being basically the bare minimum) paired with select personnel using large calibre anti-material rifles and explosive ordnance would have been much better containment measures

[@airplanenut89]

My problem isn't the excess, it's actually the choice. Given the date of book and movie, these M-16/AR-15 rifles are most likely .223 Rem or 5.56 NATO. Now this round can do plenty of damage to a person or smaller animal, I'm not sure it would be the best choice of rifle when dealing with larger dinosaurs as their skin, muscles, and bones might be tough enough to defeat, if not severely hinder the effectiveness of a round like .223/5.56. Again these are also large animals so the damage done by this smaller round might take a while to bring them down. While there are hunters who have taken deer with the .223/5.56, those are precise controlled shots at a target that isn't paying attention to you. Not a raptor actively trying to kill you. Muldoon's Franchi SPAS-12 on the other hand is a much better weapon as it can use rubber rounds to deter an animal or lethal rounds like the 12g deer slug which is very good at doing damage as the large chunk of lead would do damage similar to what you see from rifles of the Civil War era such as splintering large bones. While the idea of "muh stoppin' power" is often a myth with firearms, there is no denying many of the advantages larger/heavier rounds have when you are shooting large, powerful animals.

[@rustilldown7]

@@airplanenut89 I was going to say this. Too small for big game.

[@lunawolf2068]

I love the love the bit about the electric fence: “is it possible that the fence won’t be electrified 100% of the time. Yes!” And the text on the side saying “have you ever been on an island” because it doesn’t even have to be on an island for the fence to cut out. I live on a farm and we have electric fencing running along our basic fencing, it cuts out during a moderate wind/rain storm or if something is knocked against it. The difference is our horses and cows aren’t likely to eat us if they get out!

[@GenkoNoMiko]

I feel like we need a “Laws Broken: Jurassic World” now since that movie showcases the park actually up and running. 😜

[@glynrh8892]

Hopefully it’d be fewer 😂😂

[@mewgaming6734]

And then not anymore, the dinosaurs are set free

[@alexlaurence]

Yeah how Claire has managed to evade prison-time and somehow pretended to be some kind of environmentalist to escape scrutiny of just how many people died on her watch, is beyond me. Just goes to show how much of a POOP flick jurassic world is.

[@ilopominecrafter]

I’d argue jurassic world is worse from a legal standpoint mainly since a lot of proper procedures after less than a small incident or two quickly dominoed the whole park down.

[@HECKproductions]

count 1: extremely offensive and insulting towards the source material

[@frederickdietz3148]

"that's a terribly designed system" *me as an engineer*: EVEN THE BLOODSUCKING LAWYER AGREES WITH ME! jk you're awesome dude.

[@johncovil1252]

None of these systems are SIL rated to anything.

[@johncovil1252]

I mean, holy common mode failures, Batman! (wait, Batman is in prison for six million years)

[@frederickdietz3148]

objection! Please do the Voyager case with the Q hearing, the name of the episode is Death Wish. also oh damn i got attention, thanks everyone.

[@staunchy7143]

Hmm, I think we should get the Goblin Bankers opinion on this.

[@MakilHeru]

Bahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

[@phoenixperson8296]

At least in the book, they do have powerful backup generators, but Nedry turns them off to increase confusion and make his escape easier.

[@AudraT]

Yes. If someone sabotages the backup generators can you still claim negligence on Jurassic Park?

[@ZakTheFallen]

Meaning the real blame would fall on Nedry for sabotaging the park's systems that keep the dinosaurs safely contained. It's a similar legal issue where someone working at a zoo sabotages it, which results in dangerous animals escaping and killing someone.

[@seraphina985]

@@ZakTheFallen In reality that would likely lead to complex litigation to determine how to split the fault, sabotage is at least a foreseeable risk so the owners and operators of safety-critical systems are expected to take reasonable precautions to prevent and mitigate the potential impacts of sabotage failure of those precautions may give rise to liability on the basis of the inadequacy of said precautions were it possible for a reasonable person in the same position to forsee such failure.

[@Canadian_Zac]

I always assumed that was part of what his hacking did anyway. Turned off a lot of the safety measures. Since we see even the door locks in the main building aren't working and they need to manually go out and reactivate things

[@edwarddoernberg3428]

I also assumed that there where redundant power supplies, all computer controlled and disabled by Nedry. As the designed backup systems where not tested i would argue there quality is not relevant to weather the park was negligent. rather was it negligent to build the system in such a manner that a a single bad actor can disable primary and backup systems. i would argue yes. the system should not have been built in such a way to allow commands from a single terminal to shut down power to that fence, there should have been isolated backup systems not controlled from the primary network, indeed if you actually wanted to shut down that fence quickly it should be really hard to do, requiring human actions at multiple disparate points.

[@gurk_the_magnificent9008]

If I recall correctly, in the book the worker injuries and increasing legal scrutiny both from investors and the US and Costa Rican governments was precisely what prompted Hammond to bring in the experts (Grant, Sattler, and Malcolm, plus the character of Gennaro as the lawyer for the investors; combined with Regis for the movie) to declare the park "safe", and practically one of the first observations Sattler makes is that they put poisonous plants next to the swimming pool. The other characters (except Hammond) often express apprehension at the product they've created. Muldoon specifically states at least twice that he'd made specific safety recommendations (among them "kill all the velociraptors") that Hammond had ignored.

[@Rage_WinterchiIl]

11:39 dont worry, in the books the lawyer is actually very helpful. it's ironic, in the movie he's cowardly but in the books he actually goes out to save people and is quite brave. iirc he survives as well.

[@dpeter95]

The lawyer in movie is a cross between the lawyer in the book and another character who was a coward.

[@Evolution1101]

Not by choice. He is forced to be brave by Muldoon threatening him. But he eventually does the right thing...

[@chriswandell3570]

@@Evolution1101 Yep, he wanted Costa Rica to go kill all the dinosaurs, and wanted them to drop the nerve gas into the raptor nest to kill them all before they checked on how many eggs there were.

[@MadameMishka]

The lawyer in the book is probably the most badass character

[@yuutafan]

Actually, I think if I remember correctly, it turns out he died from something related to his injuries between Jurassic Park and Lost World, because I could have sworn his family got a pay out from InGen. Though of course Ian dies in Jurassic Park and they bring hi back for Lost World...

[@Fingeroo]

Dennis Nedry also voluntarily poisoned someone's food with shaving cream.

[@Chosen2axe]

that was his worst crime, probably another 20 life sentences.

[@aldrickjensen1459]

I was just about to comment on that, worst crime in the whole movie.

[@zekezzekekan2144]

I saw that too.

[@davidplatt8308]

What is chemical in the shaving cream?

[@mrnonsense1031]

That's almost as messed up as the dunking an onion in caramel thing.

[@gjchawks17]

Objection: Negligence of the park secondary defenses such as a backup generators. Dennis Nedry took all the security systems offline so it's impossible to say that they didn't have backup plans. He made it so they couldn't reboot any of the systems until after the 20 minutes was up. The storm didn't knock out the power, the storm didn't unlock all the gates, Dennis did. He also "debugged" the phones so there was no communication possible. It's extremely hard to say that the park didn't have precautions to natural disasters when everything was done from internal corporate sabotage.

[@Robinxen]

@09mrmarshall On the counter though, Nedry was the one who built all the defense protocols. The proper argument there would be that hiring ONLY Nedry was negligence. Even if Nedry was a nice guy but just fell ill for a day the entire system network could get crippled by an unforseen bug.

[@Null_Experis]

Nedry likely wasn't given that deep a level of access, but instead built backdoors into the system that would allow him to do this.

[@tbeller80]

Which is why InGen should have hired someone to backstop Nedry or audit him. If your system has a single point of failure either because he's working alone or has the ability to do these nefarious things with absolutely no oversight, it's still the responsibility of the person who approved such a system.

[@crwydryny]

Objection: the T rex paddock did have concrete moats (thats what the car, lex, tim and grant end up in when escaping the t rex) however as the park wasn't open to the public yet it was still under construction hammond discusses this in the beginning with one of the other characters in the control room

[@Col_Fragg]

FYI: The attorney in the novel quite heroically works to keep the kids safe.

[@gastonbell108]

True. Gennaro was still an InGen corporate lawyer sent by Hammond's board of directors to spy on him, but Crichton described him as being muscular, quiet and patient around the kids (despite protesting to Hammond that he's not a "goddamn babysitter"). He definitely didn't shame himself in the physical sense and survives the book tired and injured but alive. The only part where he's shown in any negative light at all is near the end, after they've discovered the underground nest full of fertile raptor eggs. Gennaro seems to fall back into lawyer mode at the realization that the eggs are legal, physical proof that not merely is the PARK a failure (which InGen could have pawned off on John Hammond), but that InGen's entire DNA bioengineering scheme is a failure. Doesn't work. Whole concept is fucked. It's implied he's trying to cover InGen's ass in the legal sense by demanding they simply flood the nest with poison gas, burn the island down and forget about it. Dr. Grant, correctly recognizing that they'll never know how many new raptors have bred already unless they go inside and count the egg fragments (something he's very good at), yells at him and shoves him, saying he's been "ducking his responsibility this whole time". But he means it in the corporate sense: by trusting and bankrolling Hammond's dangerous ideas, rather than shutting him down, the lawyers at InGen are as guilty as Hammond is. The time for them to pull the plug on this operation was years ago, not in the last minute when there's already wild-born dinosaurs escaping the island. Grant doesn't want it to be covered up. It all ends up being moot because the Costa Rican Army shows up, rescues everybody and burns the island down anyway. Presumably they also had strong motivation to cover up THEIR extensive sleazy collaboration with Hammond... they DID sell him the island and allowed him to operate with impunity, including taking bribes to ignore the deaths of multiple local workers.

[@blindedjourneyman]

@@gastonbell108 correct. I really should find the books, they sound like an amazing story with very human characters.

[@SmokeDog1871]

His part in the book was actually one of the best, the chapters where he teams up with muldoon to take down the rex and then later on to get past the raptors are very memorable.

[@Whoopu2]

True. In the movie his character was merged with InGen's PR Rep Ed Regis. Movie Gennaro gets his cowardly traits from Ed Regis.

[@TheLeadhound]

I think he survives in the book as well.

[@VelociraptorsOfSkyrim]

The Dodgson and Nedry scene has another level: Dodgson is an employee/CEO of a rival genetics company. I'm pretty sure that would count as Corporate Espionage.

[@BloodyFlowerFilms]

It absolutely is. In fact BioSyn, the company he works for/owns, literally sustains their business by stealing from other corporations. BioSyn is literally Corporate Espionage.

[@rexjolles]

And in the book you have more sympathy for Nedry and more reason because hammond is forcing him to do work that wasn't in his contract and underpaid him hence why he's so stressed all the time

[@stevenslouber4947]

Yep, and I do believe that rival company is Biosyn.

[@SeraphsWitness]

@@rexjolles Meh, cry me a river. You're only underpaid if you decide to stay at your job. And nobody forces you to work. Slavery has been illegal for a long time. If you're at a job that mistreats you, you're the only one to blame.

[@rexjolles]

@@SeraphsWitness ok thanks for the info nobody wanted to hear, but in the book he was blackmailed

[@michaelbujaki2462]

20:45 Objection: the fossils on display are not actual fossils. Real fossils would not crumble on impact. These are likely plaster cast fossil look-alikes.

[@christiniakollar8397]

Objection : in the movie there intended to be fossils

[@thundersheild926]

@@christiniakollar8397 Objection: Even in museums the real fossils are often kept in a backroom while copies of those fossils are displayed to the general public, especially when the fossils are in an area when they could easily be damaged by a tourist.

[@disnark]

@@christiniakollar8397 There is no museum on Earth that poses actual fossilized skeletons in the fashion that you see in large museum displays, precisely because 1. They're essentially rock and therefore breathtakingly heavy. 2. Essentially no expedition in history has ever unearthed a complete intact skeleton with no missing pieces, what you see in displays is essentially a composite interpreted using data from dozens of skeletons. 3. Said genuine fossils above are quite literally too priceless to risk damaging by being suspended from a ceiling in some sort of mock action-display.

[@seraphina985]

@@disnark Also 4 the creation of such a display would almost certainly be inherently destructive to the artifacts, holes would need to be drilled to bolt fixings sufficiently securely to hold the weight there is just no way of doing that without permanently degrading the display piece better to do this with some molded resin facsimile.

[@beipiaosaurus]

@@disnark As a paleontologist, no to all three. Just about all of the Sue Tyrannosaurus mounted skeleton is real for instance, numerous dinosaur skeletons are basically 100% complete (although usually smaller specimens that aren't separated from rock to mount), and yeah they will mount these real specimens often to the annoyance of paleontologists who want to study them, but luckily JP type disasters don't happen in real life so they never collapse and destroy themselves (though there have been WWII bombings, fires, etc.).

[@spacecat8511]

Fun fact: in the original book the scene with the little girl getting attacked by dinos on a secluded beach is the inciting incident for why the lawyer and other experts were even brought out-those little guys made it to the MAINLAND and were attacking Costa Rican children for MONTHS + more than that one Costa Rican worker got maimed by velociraptors. But it took a white tourist family raising a fuss before Jurassic Park was finally investigated vs Hammond bullying everyone with his own team of lawyers and hush money. The racist undertones with Hammond even picking this location and how the local population getting injured or even killed is…pretty blatant. Oh yeah, and classist too. Book!Hammond intentionally has this whole thing set up so that only the richest families in the world can afford to bring their children there. And everyone immediately feels sick when he basically uses his own grandchildren to prove the “safety” of his park despite the pretty damning allegations he’s already facing -honestly Hammond getting eaten by the same tiny dinos who’ve been terrorizing mainland Costa Rica for months as the final death is SO satisfying. It is the singular most ironic and undignified death in the whole book and he deserved every bit of that, especially as he blames everyone else for his own failure seconds before twisting his ankle and getting mauled.-

[@michaelcividanes2930]

The earlier attacks in the book always puzzled me. Like I can believe the doctor for the little girl dismissing her description of a Compy as a particularly large bassalisk lizard... but what about the utility worker who was outright killed? Shy of something like a Jaguar what has claws that do that sort of damage? And if it was believed to be a wild cat of some form... why wouldn't that be cause for alarm too? But yeah, the Character of Hammond in the book and the movie... like they share a name and that's about it. I'm not exactly a fan of the movie version, but I didn't hate him. The book... I was ready to jump into the book, start dumping buckets of BBQ sauce on the bastard while screaming "Hey Rexy! Dinner! Come and get it!"

[@crisco362]

Can we talk about how Nedry put shaving cream on someones pie? Add some prison time for that.

[@TheGothicSora]

It's his pie

[@spazzmaticus1542]

A crime against humanity

[@crisco362]

@@TheGothicSora It looks like he turned around to do it.

[@mahalaunderwood4123]

Isn't that like. Poisoning someone else's food? Probably thats illegal to some degree. So yeah probably a couple extra days or months or something.

[@Patricio4Christ]

I have some concern about that. This man is a full-grown creature. He should know what a shaving cream is.

[@mep15067]

My old elementary school gym teacher knew the lawyer in this movie, but since I was so young he only ever referred to him as "the guy who got eaten while on the toilet"

[@slevinchannel7589]

LEGAL EAGLE! Can you check out some Scam-Games?! Namely 1-3 of the following? 'Dreamworld' 'Earth 2' 'Planet IX' Can you do at least the Copyright-Aspect of them promising you may own the Taj Mahal and other protected places/stuff/thingys?!

[@dragonwithamonocle]

LegalEagle: "The cost to the park would be about 25 million dollars" Me, looking at my Rex in JWE: That's acceptable, this dinosaur costs 100 million dollars...

[@drathscion]

Exactly. 1 ingen is operating internationally in country whos government they likely bought off. 2 The dinosaurs are worth more then 100 million a pop. The CEO of the company would laugh at this and pay it with a smile as part of the cost of doing business while making them all sign a non disclosure agreement. Ingen could charge whatever they wanted to see real living dinosaurs and people would pay it. Not to mention the mountains of scientists that would give their right arm. To study these animals in the flesh. Its just like with airline companies. They weight the cost of fixing an issue with an aircraft verses paying the fines to the FFA. If the cost of lawsuits and fines are lower then it costs to fix the issue with their aircraft they just pay the fines and dont fix the planes.

[@meridellwriter]

@@drathscion Reminds me of a case study we did in a Business Ethics class I took in college. Back in the 1970s, this car model called the Ford Pinto had a nasty habit of catching on fire when rear-ended. According to my professor, a $5 rubber bladder installed around the fuel tank would likely have fixed (or at least seriously helped mitigate) the issue, but Ford did a cost-benefit analysis and found that it would be cheaper to pay out lawsuits to the families of anyone killed or injured in this way (the official death tally was 27, but many now believe that count is likely low) than to recall every existing Pinto and install these bladders on the fuel tanks, as well as installing them on every Pinto going forward. The Pinto was only recalled when the NHTSA forced Ford to do so in 1978 (it debuted in 1971), and it was out of production completely by 1980. Ironically, the cost of the recall was probably much higher by the time they begrudgingly did so than if they had done it years earlier when the problem was first detected, due to the fact that by then there were far more Pintos on the road to be tracked down and recalled (not to mention the lost revenue from the PR hit), but Ford fought it for years because they felt that it would be cheaper to pay the lawsuits.

[@Blackadam36]

2:12 Objection: Heavy Equipment is being used to carry a container, therefore helmets supersede the animal being transported for protection and must be worn due to high visibility related issues.

[@NeganMOX]

also, hilariously in the second movie at the beginning hammond discusses all the legal fallout he received including a settlement from Arnold's family

[@justinskywalker]

That movie begins with Ludlow in the board room discussing all the settlements and fines he was having to pay out from the park

[@theMuBot]

"Spared no expense," which here means "if anything goes wrong, we can afford the fines."

[@xtreme1002003]

“We have damn good liability insurance.”

[@BlackavarWD]

I'm guessing they'd have to be self-insured.

[@LadyOnikara]

@@BlackavarWD Yeah. Not even Geico would touch something like this.

[@danielaramburo7648]

Objection! Zoos with large dangerous animals sometimes do carry firearms in case an animal escapes and attacks a tourist.

[@sarahbuckley8109]

Where I worked it was regulation to have one on hand during treatments of the animal in question.

[@thecactusman17]

As someone familiar with certain large wild mammals native to North America, it would be highly irresponsible to NOT have firearms immediately on hand for animals like polar bears, moose, and certain rhinoceros species.

[@seraphina985]

@@sarahbuckley8109 Pretty much all you can do once if a large predator has already started to attack someone, drugs are generally too slow to neutralize the animal's ability to continue delivering lethal force against the victim so you pretty much have to respond with lethal force of your own. Sad though this may be given that these situations often result from recklessness on the part of the animal that should have known better (The human). The human brain didn't evolve for decoration it's quite a useful survival advantage to use it.

[@thecactusman17]

@@seraphina985 Actually, predators might not even be the worst. Large herbivores like moose and elk kill way more people than bears each year because they've evolved to utilize their massive size as a defense mechanism and don't recognize the difference between hunters and tourists.

[@TheRealMystcadia]

Harame flashbacks!!!!!!

[@rcavicchijr]

There were actually redundancies in the electric fence power, but Nedry turned them all off so he could move freely accross the island. That's why the raptor fences were still on until they reset the system. They probably should have put the generator controlls closer to the control room though, rather than on the other side of all the intelligent murderous dinosaurs that were actively testing the fences for weakness.

[@chickenman7801]

11:39 Read the book SPOILER Gennaro the lawyer was ethical, brave, useful, and fit. He also was at odds many times with Hammond when he noticed potential violations during his inspection.

[@hudzj01]

Chicken Man the books and the films are considered different

[@Dr_Universe2007]

We need a remake of the movies but have the movies be exactly like the books

[@philconti1945]

he was not necessarily brave, he was kinda a mixed bad with that

[@jeraldehlert7903]

Objection! Putting shaving cream on pie has got to be against some laws.

[@thesimiccombine3192]

The dude said it was cool whip whipped cream.

[@TheBabylane2]

@@thesimiccombine3192 He said theres enough COOLANT inside for 36 hrs. He said nothing of cool whip lmao

[@adaptorperish1322]

That stuff is inedible and dangerous for health, so, yeah, clearly.

[@112-DavidL]

@Opecuted Felony Food Tampering. Subsection (a) of 18 U.S.C. § 1365 "prohibits tampering or attempted tampering with any consumer product that affects interstate or foreign commerce, or with the labeling of, or the container for, such a product. The tampering must be done with reckless disregard for the risk that another person will be placed in danger of death or bodily injury. Furthermore, the tampering must be done under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to the risk of death or bodily injury."

[@Jabberwockybird]

Maybe U.S. Laws, but, this doesn't take place in the United States!

[@itmademesignup9508]

You forgot to include the T-Rex for being guilty of destruction of property, first degree murder, and gross negligence in the misuse of a velociraptor.

[@ollikangasniemi3849]

This just made my day!

[@BotWhisperer]

You cant misuse a velociraptor. Everyone knows that

[@wrayday7149]

Forgot Trespassing, and loitering, possible disturbing the peace/noise pollution.

[@NickRoman]

There is some destruction of property question, yet as he was being held prisoner, some destruction while escaping imprisonment, I doubt that can be held against a person. Although, being an animal, he'd probably just be killed.

[@BotWhisperer]

Trex and all destroyed property are owned by ingen therefore they will not sue themselves

[@askthepizzaguy]

8:30 Suppose this were "biological curiosity park" and the attractions were dangerous pathogens. I feel like if these pathogens got released by a hurricane because the facility were located near Costa Rica, the resulting damage due to "an act of god" should not be blameless on the part of the people who made the facility. The owners and operators knew the stuff they were making was dangerous if released, and put their facility in a place where it would probably be hit by a hurricane every year, and did not build a facility that could withstand category 5 hurricanes. That screams negligence to me, and the "could not be foreseen" part especially doesn't hold up here. An earthquake that devastates a town nowhere near a fault line, I could understand. Build a facility loaded with lethal animals, some of which can fly or swim, and have them be released the moment a large storm hits, and locate the facility in one of the most hurricane prone areas of the entire world? Surely you could win this argument in court and get a judgment in favor of the victims.... otherwise the law is pretty bad.