LAWYER: How Cops Run Drug Dogs on Cars Without a Warrant

[@kennethmay9002]

I took a gun safety class years ago in Bedford Virginia and on the ladt night of class it was customary for a member of local law enforcement to come and talk to the class. For my class officer Grubbs was there to talk to us. The class had been friendly throughout the course but everything took a turn for the worst when officer Grubbs spoke to us. The first thing i remember his saying was that the first thing he will do regardless of why he was pulling you over once he called in your plates and foundout that you had a concealed weapon permit (running a stop sign, headlight out, etc.) is to place everyone in the vehicle in handcuffs no matter what. Then he would search you and your car. If you didn't give him permission to search he would call in a canine unit. The he feely admitted that if the dog didn't give a positive signal for something illegal the handler would give it a slight hand signal to have it sit or bark and that would be used as a positive signal. His words and explanation - not mine. At this point he turned most of the class against law enforcement and the instructors started looking uncomfortable. He was a complete bully to anyone that tried to ask any questions. Not long after that he was caught having indecent liberties with a girl that attended the school where he was a resource officer. Once he was found out he fled the state with the student and was captured in Kentucky when he tried to purchase gas with his credit card. Don't believe it when you are told the dog indicated something illegal in your car. Don't believe my story? Well officer Grubbs story is below. wset.com/archive/on-october-19th-2011-deputy-ew-grubbs-was-arrested-by-the-virginia-state-police-for-twelve-counts-of-indecent-liberties-of-a-minor-by-custodian wfirnews.com/news/missing-teen-could-be-with-fired-school-resource-officer www.nbc12.com/story/15738080/sheriffs-deputy-arrested-charged-with-crimes-against-children/

[@MrNategeo]

Holy fuckin shit

[@MrDeleoco]

Sad days ahead when pre-determination and power-trips are now the enemies tactics to get their career on track.

[@richardclingempeel6111]

Hey, I'm in Bedford lol. Watching these auditor and cop watch videos, I see that handcuffing someone without articulating a crime they have committed is a false arrest. There are lots of videos where the people have been suing for violating their 4th amendment rights. Audit the audit, is a good channel that shows how the police violate people's rights.

[@KittyDad]

Ummm. Not. This cop might have said so in this instance, but if he was corrupt enough to lie in court, why not lie to you too? These detector dogs are trained to alert only to a smell. An odor. A particular odor. Or a couple of particular odors depending on the breed and skill of the individual dog as required by COURT ORDER. This dog qualification standard has been challenged through various appelate (appeals) courts already. I know. I used to train them (the dogs, NOT the judges LOL. Albeit some judges could use more).

[@kennethmay9002]

@fartymcfartface897 I never mentioned him telling lies in court or him telling lies. You made that up yourself. I was in a classroom setting while taking a gun safety course. Most of the people in the class were there in preparation for getting a conceal carry permit. I'm not sure why you would attempt to change the story. I know what he told the class - I was there.

[@BigDaddy-lm1rl]

I know a guy in Georgia that trains these drug dogs for law-enforcement, he said the handlers could get a positive hit every time if they wanted one , The handler is in control of the dog a slight tug on the leash will cause the dog to hit.

[@phylliswhite4154]

Then they plant so called evidence from their pocket.

[@TheKRL78]

Where at in Georgia?

[@blindarcher1651]

Considering that a normal "alert" is to sit, and basic non-LEO obedience training is to sit at a slight tug on the leash, that makes perfect sense.

[@kamakaziozzie3038]

As a multi dog owner, I can confirm our four legged friends only want to please us. Not difficult to get them trained for anything like that.

[@gracegrace4ever]

💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

[@neverknow69]

So about 10 years ago my wife and I got pulled over on I65. It was the middle of February in Indiana near Lafayette. 2am ,the temperature was around zero. The cop tells us they ran thier dog around the outside of our car and he signals we have drugs. We were told to either consent to a search or wait for a judge to issue a warrant. We didn't have anything so consented. They made us stand outside freezing to death while they searched. We had just came from a formal dinner in Chicago so not really dressed for the weather. Of course they found nothing. We to this day think the cops took some cash. We had recently returned from vacation and still had around $500 in cash in the glove box. Half of it was gone.

[@stumpedII]

tip for services provided...

[@ronaldfauver1469]

Donation policeman ball.

[@gaoxiaen1]

Cash? You're guilty of something!

[@robertkearns4602]

typical gestapo tactics to screw up your life, ALL GESTAPO AGENTS LIE AND ARE CORRUPT.

[@TruthFreedom1776]

In 2013 after I refused to give them my driver's license because I was a passenger in the vehicle they brought a canine out and made it false alert to the vehicle intentionally so they can say oh, we have probable cause and then they searched the entire car. My brother was driving he's the one that got pulled over because he was speeding and I was in the front passenger seat. Then they commenced to violate both of our rights by turning the car basically upside down everything in it putting me and my brother both in handcuffs one at a time yeah this happened in the state of Indiana at the hands of the Indiana State Police. These people are criminals.

[@ciii2621]

You didn't know,,, you are guilty until you prove yourself innocent 😂😂😂

[@breal9435]

I'm from Cincinnati and on the state boy scaryness scale 1. Indiana 2. Kentucky 3. Ohio.

[@Jon-b6b]

Pigs everywhere

[@grannygear1001]

Is Indiana a red Authoritarian state? They disallow even medical marijuana and raw milk is forbidden. It is also illegal for a man to stand in a bar in the state of Indiana. Ut oh.

[@brendafrost7001]

They absolutely are! I had the same thing happen to me!

[@dalecrowe7757]

As a soldier in the mid 80's to 90's I took part in several "Health and Welfare" events where MP's brought dogs into the barracks on random drug sweeps. My favorite story from those happened in Germany around 1984. I knew one of my roomies was dealing and when the drug dog alerted on his wall locker I thought "Oh, man, he's about to be going down to turn big rocks into little rocks and little rocks into sand for a few years. The MP handler gave us all this little smug smirk and told the dog to "go get it" and pointed inside the wall locker. The dog dove in and started rooting around...and then we heard the crunching start as the GSD started wagging madly. The handler pulled him back and then had to try to wrestle a half eaten package of Oreo cookies away from him. The MP was the only one who's tail was dragging as he slunk out of the room.

[@TheBeefSlayer]

I would believe it if they let you be present for those dog searches. They don’t. Good story.

[@chrisslupski1525]

@@TheBeefSlayerwe always stood right next to our lockers when they ran the dog through. 84-85 A1/13 Infantry in Baumholder . How’s that for a “good story “?

[@TheBeefSlayer]

@@chrisslupski1525 as in 1984???? Yeah they don’t do that anymore…. I was born in 82. 😂

[@abn82dmp]

@@TheBeefSlayer Maybe now, but in the '80's GI's were made to stand next to their wall lockers. How do I know? I was an MP from '84-'86 on Ft Bragg (NOT Ft Liberty), and two of my best friends were Handlers (K9). Assisted on several "sweeps".

[@s.porter8646]

Good story, cept your not supposed to be in vicinity when MIL dogs are searching, so you don't see the alert...saw one go nuts on a submariner, for a tub of Gatorade mix, NEG on narcotics

[@russellmyers934]

"Drug Sniffing" dogs are completely worthless, except as a device to magically manufacture probable cause out of thin air. You might as well have a stuffed toy dog with a battery and a button on the side that when you press it it says "Drugs! Drugs! Woof!" Same thing.

[@shadowprince4482]

There was an experiment done by a news outlet on drug dogs. They told officers where the non-existent drugs were before the test and the dogs "alerted" to those spots every single time because the handler was cueing the dog to alert.

[@thedaemonator3244]

We have the ability to analyze chemical compounds in the air in realtime with machines that have no bias. The only reason to retain the drug dog is specifically for this purpose.

[@breadfan1071]

I think we shouldn't use dogs as police until they can testify in court. We have the right to face our accuser and all witnesses.

[@DEA90799]

Good point. We are allowed to impeach or attempt to impeach the "testimony" of lab tests and breathalyzer equipment, but a dog alerting on your car is always presumed correct, without standards and without regular reliability testing.

[@myaccount3402]

Guessing is a 50/50 proposition. Anything under 50 is by definition NOT PROBABLE....what do they need ? PROBABLE cause Anyone claiming to "Understand " a dogs actions should be considered Insane

[@johnc.2325]

Good Answer!

[@brucesmith9144]

What does “woof” mean precisely?

[@curtiskretzer8898]

Pan galactic babblefish

[@DMS20231]

There should be a registry and mandatory reporting of each drug dog search and whether it found anything. Defense attorneys should have access to it.

[@drewdaskievige754]

Yeah how many false reports of drugs so the dog could be put on a brady list of LYING OFFICER. Along with the HANDLING OFFICER being put on the list too.

[@PhilipFear]

All K9's should have to be logged for every search, every hit, and every false hit.... And their should be limits to what the K9 can be trained to alert on, what combinations of things, as well as how many⁉️

[@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE]

How do you kno if it's a false hit? Maybe the K9 hit and the officer couldn't find the drugs??

[@DMS20231]

@@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE If they don’t find drugs it’s a false hit.

[@PhilipFear]

@@L.RILEYSQUATS2PEE The whole thing behind these K9's being accepted as probable cause is that they are reliable for their alerts, not that they sometimes hit real substances but that if they alert, they've alerted on something real.... Otherwise, get a F**K**G warrant....PERIOD‼️🇺🇲‼️

[@heroesandzeros7802]

A few years ago, local police in Jerseyville, IL set up a bomb threat to search my tavern for drugs. I call this town "The Jerseyville Cartel". They could not get a warrant in Illinois to search a tavern, so they had their CI to call in a bomb threat. Here comes the drug dogs. There was an occupied home literally 2 feet from the tavern building and they did not evacuate the home. They did not find any drugs on a busy night because I would not allow drugs of any kind to brought in. But that did not stop them from committing a felony. They detained everyone that was inside the tavern in the middle of a well travelled street at night with no safety lights or barricades. This is the same PD that killed a child for carrying a Bible on a public sidewalk. Google Roger Holyfield. His mother was an employee. Later, this PD set up a blacked-out police car from Missouri to park behind me at night and had several lighted cars at the other end of my parking lot as a distraction... To kill us. "The suspects tried to escape and my officers shot the suspects 500 times for their safety." This was an assassination attempt for two people. Police are our worst criminals. Felons with guns.

[@petertimmins6657]

I paused during the intro to make this comment before hearing what he says. There is a growing mountain of evidence on the lack of reliability of canine detection of contraband. There are, I believe, even some court cases where the Judge has ruled the canine detection as inadmissible based on this lack of reliability, which means no probable cause for the search.

[@willadams8442]

I was a K9 trainer for 23 years. Bottom line: if the dog’s mouth is open he is not searching. For a dog to sniff his mouth must be completely closed. Look at your own dog when he sniffs the ground. His mouth will be closed. Additionally, watch the officer’s face closely. He may use facial changes to prompt the dog to sit. He may also use nearly inaudible clicks or mouth noises to cue a dog to sit.

[@nothingschanged7994]

You’re 100% right. Those, like most dogs work for rewards, so when they alert they get a reward. messed up for sure.

[@EchoMirage72]

The thing is, the lay-person doesn't know what an "alert" actually looks like from a dog, and cops know this, and use it to claim they have probable cause. A few nights ago I was sitting in a parking lot minding my own business when a cop pulled up, I got out of the car, he asked if he could search my car. I told him no he didn't have permission. He then "decided to search my car with the dog". He told me the dog alerted. I have no idea what an "alert" looks like, not only that but I was placed in cuffs while he pulled my car apart. Looking in the gas tank, opening up the hood of my car, going into the back of it. The cop didn't find anything. But the mere fact that they can say that a dog alerted when it obviously didn't, is just fucked up.

[@JA-ux7dd]

Never consent to a search, ever...

[@nikto-ky4kx]

I saw a show once where a guy had a horse that could do addition and subtraction. He would say add 4 plus 5 and the horse would paw the ground 9 times. He would say 8 minus 2 and the horse would paw the ground 6 times. The crowd was amazed. The guy was giving the horse subtle signals on when to start pawing and when to stop. A dog can be trained to take subtle signals also. Police crap all over the Bill of Rights. They are the ones that should be in jail,

[@Justone372]

True.

[@timothyboone5003]

nikto2000 Clever Hans

[@PhilipFear]

Some of them should, but most are trying to do their the best they can.... But the dirty ones all F**K the good ones.... Not to mention, the ones who won't turn in the dirty one's are just as bad....

[@larrylamb5462]

had a drug dog alert on my bookcase while I was in the military(I was an MP). I had to to through every page of my military library (TM's, FM's, etc.). They still certified that SOB, even though it was wrong.

[@whoever6458]

I love how you called the dog a son of a bitch because, so long as the dog was male, that would literally be true. lol Sucks that they certified a dog who obvious thought pieces of paper were drugs.

[@frankfrank8024]

Why did they select you for an inspection, you must have been special.

[@stanbarker3764]

Smell should not be allowed because it is subjective. I heard a story where an individual was pulled over. The cop said he smelled marijuana. The motorist stated that they smelled cilantro, pico de gallo, and carne asada. They had just passed gas. Saw a KZbin video where a cop claimed to smell marijuana and after finding nothing, claimed maybe it was from a passing vehicle.

[@cindyledbetter2228]

I thought that the Supreme Court just ruled months ago that cops can't use the "smell games" anymore because it's unconstitutional. I'll have to go look it up. Since my last stroke, my memory is not as good. 🤔

[@gracegrace4ever]

😂😅😂

[@ragingvixen4685]

In my town, the police will radio for a k-9 unit before they pull you over. That way the dog is there before the stop is over...You cant argue that they extended the stop waiting for the flea bag..

[@timothyboone5003]

ragingvixen That’s a common operating procedure in many jurisdictions.

[@MeridiusBell]

I’ve seen cops say the dog alerted when I watched the whole thing and didn’t notice an alert at all. I don’t even have anything to do with drugs at all, but my main fear is that an officer will plant drugs while he is searching, which does happen. Once they are inside an automobile, he is greatly secluded from anyone’s view, including his own body cam if he is slick enough. And you’re right about the leading behavior and false alerts too. You’ve got a great channel, and you are passing along much needed information. Thanks!

[@TinyHouseHomestead]

Nope, anytime your property is not free to go, that is a search! 😁👍👍🇺🇲

[@terrytresemer2864]

While in the military I'd had two times I was alerted on. The first in Alaska while the plane was being refuel. Lined us up against a fence and run the dog. He alerted on the Kitkat I had, nearly missed my plane. The second time I was stationed at Ft Dix. Dog alerted on my parked car, submitted to their search and the dog wanted my Hardies leftovers. I guess both dogs were hungry. Dependable? I think not! I feel the same about polygraph and GSR test.

[@stumpedII]

failing a drug test in military is a big deal too..

[@cindyledbetter2228]

I've seen quite a few videos lately showing the officers allowing the dogs inside the cars that they are searching. The people get really upset and said that it's illegal to open the door and put the dog inside the vehicle, and according to the Supreme Court, a case of the dog getting on 2 legs and front paws going in the window. The person won and the police lost on that case. But they keep changing the laws so we have less and less Rights. I don't do drugs but I don't want a police dog climbing in my car. I also seen video showing a "Free air search" while the driver stays in the car. So everyone look up the law in your state because if you get out of the car, they can search your person plus find something in the car that wasn't there while you was in the car. Learn your Rights. ⚖️📜🥰

[@dynjarren5454]

A friend of mine had his dog with him, was instructed to remove his dog and get out. A k9 was called. It was 37° outside and snowing. It was recorded by his gf who was still on the car. The 2 dogs almost fought... it turned out one of the cops called animal control. They came and IF it hadn't been for my friends dog being a support animal it would have been taken. After that the cops left his car in ruins, everyone in the cold for 40 minutes and yet NO probable cause and no alert from the k9....unlawful detention and multiple violations across the board. My friend sued and won. Takeaway is DO NOT CONSENT

[@goodoz9942]

Dogs are wonderful animals. I have three GSheps and love them all dearly. One thing for sure, when it comes to "treat time," they KNOW because they have LEARNED that unless they behave a certain way and perform certain tasks then they won't get the reward. A 10 year old can train a dog to perform like this. I say use them when you need to send in a diver for a dangerous situation or someone fleeing on foot...leave them out of the tasks that provide "cause" because they can't be cross examined in court.

[@briceyokem9236]

Interpretation of drug dogs behavior is subjective. This means the police can take any action by the dog as confirmation of what they want to believe.

[@jackreisewitz6632]

Speaking the truth. Same with roadside sobriety tests. Cops love to use subjective statements to violate your rights. Don't ever think it's not deliberate and premeditated.

[@rispatha]

The issue I have with drug dogs is that now they can run your plates and instantly have your entire driving record and criminal record on hand before they even pull you over. If you have a history of minor drug charges or charged/convicted of violent crimes or even having guns that is their excuse to continue to follow you. You don't even have to have been convicted just charged with any of the previously mentioned "crimes". Even if you have absolutely NOTHING in your vehicle they will follow you until you make even the slightest driving mistake and pull you over to go fishing. By that time they have already called the K9 unit to their area and that K9 unit arrives as the "backup" officer thus eliminating a long stop excuse to dismiss charges. The majority of the time you will never get a ticket on the original reason they pull you over especially if they find something after the dog "alerts". They will even follow you if you pull out of a "known drug area" in spite of the fact that you have friends or relatives living in the area and you were just there to visit them. They will sit for hours just waiting on you to pull out of the area especially apartment complexes. They will even drive through the parking areas to run plates just to tag someone to be BOLO (Be On the Lookout) for so they can find an excuse to pull you over and go fishing.

[@715Juggalo]

this is 100% true I've had it done to myself & fiance not until it was all over with I realized why I was followed for 10+ miles before pulled over, it was so the dog was there to search or sniff so shady.

[@blindarcher1651]

"The issue I have with drug dogs is that now they can run your plates and instantly have your entire driving record and criminal record on hand before they even pull you over." In some states the police have access to the CCW licensing records, so when they run your plate and get your name they're also notified if you have a CCW license and are more likely to have a (100% legal) firearm with you. Then when they pull you over they treat you like a violent convicted criminal: approach with guns drawn, order you out immediately, handcuff and frisk you. Because "officer safety", or something. Even better is when you have two officers in that car, and the illegal search of your car is part of their "training".

[@N0B0DY_SP3C14L]

Regarding handlers and dogs, if there was any decency in the K-9 programs of any police department, they would require a recertification every two weeks, where both the dog's AND THE HANDLER's behaviors are CLOSELY observed and monitored for any inadvertent cuing of the dog. Every K-9 program that has any legitimacy is more heavily comprised of training the handler than it is the dog.

[@outlawandoutdoorstv9901]

Ive had on more than one occasion had a drug dog falsely hit on my car . The officer throws a tennis ball and says the dog alerts, amd afterbthe searvh they find nothing and theybsay well u must've done drugs in there prior which is BS

[@nraugseem2]

Drug dog search and officer search is the same. It should be illegal search if you don't consent.

[@writerinfact1768]

I seem to recall, some time ago, reading that Utah's highest court ruled that "drug dogs" were 1) not equally trained and 2) were reacting more frequently to handler signals than to any "suspicious scent". Thus, they prohibited the admission of such "evidence" in any court in the state. It's possible, I suppose, that the deficiencies have been corrected, but I am not convinced that the LEOs did more than sulk. Loudly. Thanks for the information.

[@MrGizmo60]

Why not demand the drug dog sniff the police car and the officer, to show a negative result before the search?

[@hamptonlawfirm]

You can demand it but the cops will ignore your demands.

[@AECRADIO1]

COPS ARE WELL KNOWN DRUG TRAFFICERS...

[@FastEddy1959]

It won’t matter unless the handler wants the dog to indicate.

[@slappy3660]

While in college I lived next door to a retired professor raised and trained show dogs and drug dogs. He told me he could train the dog to do anything with hand signals or "eye" contacts commands. I watched him train, it was amazing how deceptive he could make things look like the dog alerted. 44% hit rate is just plain wrong and should not be allowed to stand.

[@frankfrank8024]

Leave the drugs alone and you won't have no problems.

[@azazel20032001]

​@@frankfrank8024, there are too many instances to list where cops have planted drugs on innocent people and ruined their lives to promote their own careers.

[@jamesmaxwell4285]

If your case is thrown out of court, shouldn't there be a some kind reprimand against the officer,

[@Ann-mb1vf]

I have trained GSDs for years. I now have my own Belgian Mal. He knows English, another language, and sign language. Just a slight hand move can make my dog sit, thus alert. The handler in Idaho falls Idaho let the dog put his feet on the citizens window because his feet went into the violating the 4th. The sad part the citizen had a lot of meth, and all the evidence to be suppressed. Have the hander done his job right, they would have had a ton of evidence and taken a drug dealer off the streets.

[@TheBeefSlayer]

“My doggie says I can search” is absolutely ridiculous to me and always has been. I can’t believe how any dog search can be legal evidence of probable cause!!!!!

[@frankfrank8024]

when did you get busted?

[@accuratealloys]

I always have my dogs in my cars. Drug dogs are still dogs and dogs react to other dogs. I don’t drink or do drugs. I’m certain that if a drug dog goes around my car, the cops will be saying that the dog alerted.

[@hamptonlawfirm]

great point

[@respectmyauthoritah1875]

The problem with dogs is that they can and are sometimes up to 100% wrong and still in service. They can be trained to "Alert" with something as little as a finger movement.

[@tsparky9196]

Watching the live police show "On Patrol Live" we've started noticing how many times dogs alerted but no drugs are found. Based on this small sample it's about 50%.

[@stumpedII]

50% actual alerts and 50% cop faked alerts so 50% chance there was probable cause? but 100% chance you get pulled over.

[@abcdefghij8680]

My current situation: Plead vs Trial Filed Motion to Suppress: April 10th I got pulled over for break lights and 1st policeman came and explained to me why I was being pulled over. 2nd policeman (that I had ran into a month and half ago, and was really a horrible policewoman, was disrespectful and instigating, a fight between a situation at that time) she immediately smiles and asks can I search your car? I said no (my husband on the phone says no) She states the dog will come in. I waited at least 30 mins or more. During the time, the females officer is telling the story again what has happened with the past incident. Really, disrespecting and embarrassing me in front of others officers. I was really upset both times and I just really left me feeling as if I was a piece of crap because of the way she made me look. Well, after bringing the dog and waiting for awhile. The dog signaled and the lady with dog says my dog never lie. (I never even commented on anything that he was. Well, they searched and found a paraphernalia. It was not given to me as a paraphernalia but scraped out the residue and charged me with felony under a gram.

[@hosslane320]

Wouldn't it be nice to F O I A a request on their bodycams , might have helped show some motives for woman cop pushing harder to get anything more that she could .

[@stumpedII]

the crime here is that drugs are illegal. americans are not as free as they think they are.. and prohibition hurts society more far far more than the drugs do.

[@svenbruder9977]

30 min wait is ridiculous

[@robertsteinbach7325]

They extended your traffic stop for no legal reason I can see. Your stop should've been 15 minutes, tops. Also, if the search is deemed illegal and you get in the clear you might see these "police officers" show up at your front door without a warrant to "talk to you", don't even answer the door. Ignore them and call your lawyer. That is your right.

[@marksample6230]

My own civilian dog is trained to respond to hand signals. What's to stop a LEO from doing the same?

[@stumpedII]

their.. integrity lol hahahahahahahhahaah

[@robertsteinbach7325]

Absolutely nothing!

[@AmericanMadeAdventures]

As a prospective juror, I am aware of my power to judge immoral, unjust, unconstitutional laws. Jury Nullification can set our fellow Americans free.

[@stumpedII]

the prosecution filters your type out in selection.

[@billbammerlin4666]

Our Trucking Co rented a Ryder truck in the 90s for a run that had to go immediately and our trucks weren’t in. The driver stopped at the first rest area on the way and aState trooper did the usual log book license permits Authority to haul the freight ect. Then he wanted to search the cab of the truck. They found nothing in all it took an hour( as any trucker knows ( STOP FOR AN HOUR AND LOSE 2) after all the BS the Trooper found a few suspected marajuna seeds in between the floormat and the door sill and impounded the truck load and arrested my driver. Needless to say the load didn’t get to the destination on time.

[@jeffw1246]

I've seen the vidios of dog searches when the officer seems to be getting the dog to alert falsely. By tapping on the car, tugging the leash a certain way and other telltale signs of trying to get a false alert. If there is a dog search it should just be a simple walk around.

[@jimmybutler1379]

Some are trained to always act as found something for false reason to break the laws to entrap those they have chosen to search for anything you might have , and how you going to prove that in court with good dogs and bad dogs in service by law enforcement that look alike !...

[@sdnlawrence5640]

Very good presentation. Thank you. One should always observe, record and narrate the cops. They have a slew of ways to artificially extend a stop. Slow typing, even though they scan license now; printer malfunction, distractive conversation, even stopping to drink some water.

[@CaldwellParishTransparency]

Years ago when my buddy was in high school, a drug dog "alerted" to the scent of his dog on his backpack. A few years after that, I got pulled over and the K9 "alerted" twice to my car: once to my tire where a tomcat had sprayed, and once to the box of fried chicken in my passenger seat. Too bad I didn't have a dashcam at the time to record the deputy saying that his dog regularly alerts to the scent of food and to the scent of other animals. And lastly: last year when I was listening to my police scanner, a deputy called for a K9, and they had to call an off-duty K9 handler because the on-shift K9 had already eaten. I don't trust drug dogs.

[@johnburgess2084]

I've thought abut this before. The "conspiracy theorist" in me says that an officer could perform unauthorized training with a dog such that the officer could make some subtle sign to the dog that means "alert now". Now I see that that idea is not so far fetched after all.

[@hamptonlawfirm]

The biggest problem is that there is a lack of standards for drug dog training and courts tend to believe what the office claims the dog alerted to, regardless of the objective evidence

[@geoblue699]

Used to see that on that show live PD all the time. The Handler would snap his finger or raise his hand in the air to get the dog to jump to his hand and officer could say he alerted on something total BS

[@tbdrummer67]

It's not a conspiracy theory if it's right. It's a conspiracy.

[@tbdrummer67]

...and they're trained that they get a treat if they alert. I guarantee if I had bacon in my pockets, that dog would "alert" 100% of the time.

[@frankfrank8024]

You must be a user.

[@MarkLittle-jg2ep]

I've had the pleasure to share my home with 2 retired drug dogs, I've seen them both alert, on people who came to my house, 2 cops, 1 mayor, 2 council members, 1 minester, and a high-school baseball coach. Lol not friends! Just law dogs, I told them all that they were all busted, and explained that they had to leave immediately. Lol good times.

[@michaelshrader5139]

Doesn't it make you wonder why someone who is applying for a job stocking shelves at your local Walmart for minimum wage must take and pass a drug test BUT the officials who run our government don't?

[@PhilipDarragh]

I do not understand something here. If the police illegally obtain evidence, or illegally detain you, why aren't these officers fired and prosecuted?

[@stumpedII]

cus anyoen can make a mistake and they dont want fear of mistake to reduce law enforcement. it is only criminal when it was not a mistake and a deliberate criminal act. then there is the innocent till proven guilty thing (for cops) Unfortunatly its guilty till, proven innocent for the cops victims. What needs to happen is police need to buy malpractice insurance (from for profit insurance co) and then they will start policing thmselves to avoid higher insurance premiums. as long as the public has to pick up the tab, they might punish the little guys.. but the root of hte problem (supervisors, trainers, commanders) will never change..

[@bennymae1]

QUALIFIED IMMUNITY they got a free pass for ANYTHING THEY DO. so why the hell not. Why would cops care one s $hit about your rights?

[@PhilipDarragh]

@@bennymae1 Benny, that is my point exactly my point. When there is no more QO, police officers will hv 2 pay out of their own pocket, along with the municipality that hired them. That is why a movement has 2B started to eliminate the law(s) that give QI Let me known what U think. T/U so much 4 ur reply sir. God bless U and ur family. Hope 2 hear FM U again. Sincerely, P.D.

[@PhilipDarragh]

@@stumpedII Stumpedll, I agree with U 100%. I will support any policy that moves in that direction. God bless U and ur family. Hope 2 get ur reply. Sincerely, P.D.

[@carbunkle9902]

Because the courts are just as crooked.

[@Mikevdog]

The sick part is cops calling their dogs "Officer". They are dogs. This BS is intended to give an animal legal validity they don't have

[@TheLunarLegend]

'Yeah the dog gave me is signal' It barked at a squirrel, tried to eat roadkill, then puked on my shoe. You're saying that's its signal? '... yes. Step out of the vehicle.'

[@frankparnell7931]

It’s a shame that law-enforcement can’t do their job. They have to have a dog do it for them.

[@enochandedna]

Various courts have ruled that just the smell; alone, of drugs or alcohol is not enough for probable cause.

[@robertsteinbach7325]

Obviously not enough and the Supreme Court thinks Police Officers' "hunches" are "probable cause" but they can't legally rule that due to that pesky 4th Amendment.

[@jackreisewitz6632]

Yeah ?? When and where.

[@enochandedna]

@@jackreisewitz6632 Beck v Ohio; Vaughn v State.

[@jackreisewitz6632]

@@enochandedna Thanks !

[@TinionDaye1274]

In the state of TN officers can be charged with Kidnapping for extending a stop for to long.

[@johntaphouse5235]

why wouldnt a cop just say "i smell drugs on you" ? after all i find it sooooo freeking stupid that they have this dog come out sniff the car and then they have probable cause.. this literaly says COURTS TRUST A DUMB ANIMAL MORE THAN THE POLICE

[@Thinker2-truth]

UPON = Before - Meaning; NO WARRANTS until the following is SATISFIED! 1. Probable Cause 2. Oath / Affirmation 3. Description; place, person, things 4. Lawful Judge The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but UPON probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

[@santahawes8389]

I'm a new listener, not from Texas, but from Florida. Your explanations are clear and easy to understand, and I REALLY appreciate them. I jsut wanted to jump on and say thank you for publishing your experience. It is appreciated.

[@hamptonlawfirm]

Awesome, thank you!

[@kurtisstutzman7056]

I always thought those 'drug dogs' were shady, but holy cow, this was an eye opener...! And how is an untrained dog "reliable"...? Thanks, keep up your awesomeness and don't forget to compliment someone today...

[@lakenddrickbeasley6347]

Truly helpful content great job!!

[@markbrown8097]

Another work around of the Constitution.

[@1943Grandpa]

Any skilled handler can get a dog to alert on anything the handler wants. I've trained dogs since childhood, and I am 76 years old.

[@nicholascosentino8492]

Dogs are just a weapon to undermine the 4th.

[@jamesbecker4326]

great videos. thank you for helping us know our rights.

[@prospectorbonky]

If you give consent, you can revoke consent immediately after u exit the vehicle and that prevents them from coming up with bogus reasons to search anyway

[@CSGATI]

If the drug dog signs a sworn statement I will consent to a search. A dog can be trained to give false positives.

[@anthonyesparsen9453]

Thank you again for your information

[@hamptonlawfirm]

My pleasure!

[@motokenzo763]

i had a dog alert on a bag of pretzels in my carryon...told the officer what was in the carryon and he didn't even bother with a search. Houston Hobby Airport.

[@tbdrummer67]

Wow. 44% accuracy. If any other tool were found to be that inaccurate it would be laughed out of court every time. Why are police still using them?

[@robertsteinbach7325]

Because the courts allow it.

[@SFYR1776]

Since this video was 3 weeks ago according to KZbin… not one comment or question has been answered at least in the comments. So I doubt mine will. But I’ll try. What does perceive as “RAS” (Reasonable Articulable Suspicion) for probable cause since smell or odor is not valid for an officer? Let me explain. High Court: Odor of Marijuana Not Enough to Conduct Warrantless Search The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled in the final days of 2021, that “the odor of marijuana alone does not amount to probable cause to conduct a warrantless search of a vehicle.” This is “heady” stuff, no pun intended. The manner in which the trial court, and ultimately the Supreme Court, reached a decision in Commonwealth v. Barr, 28 WPA 2021, is interesting indeed. In the fall of 2018, the appellant, Timothy Barr, was the occupant of a car pulled over by the Pennsylvania State Police in Allentown, Pennsylvania. As the troopers approached the car they smelled an odor of marijuana. The troopers used the odor of marijuana as probable cause to search the vehicle. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court ruled that was an unconstitutional and illegal search and seizure! By this, if officer smelled an odor, it would not warrant probable cause for dog to search. Right?

[@hamptonlawfirm]

Great point! The problem is that not all state courts recognize this precedent. This works in Pennsylvania but not in Texas. Odor of marijuana may, but not necessarily will, constitute probable cause. The odor of burnt marijuana is not the basis for a search in many states because marijuana use is not illegal. In Texas, possession of marijuana is still illegal. In fact, in Fort Worth, Texas, you can be arrested and spend up to 180 days in jail for possession of marijuana of less than 2oz.

[@selfdo]

@@hamptonlawfirm The phrase "I smell weed" seems to be all the officer has to say in order to detain someone long enough to get the drug dog. It would also seem logical that there's no way, if said K-9 unit is going to take 30-45 minutes to show up, that the cop is going to come away "empty handed", even if he has to, er...IMPROVISE. If in Texas, possession of less than 2 ounces of marijuana can result in arrest and up to 180 days in the county lockup, then it'd be very easy to frame up a person the officer wants to put behind bars. This especially if, during the "detainment", the subject is cuffed and placed in the "squid car", an arrest that NOT an "arrest". And police wonder why so many hate them.

[@matthewduncan1691]

and there is the wrinkle...if they have used a drug dog, you should have your attorney request the training and certification records of both the K9 and the handler. If they haven't kept accurate and detailed records, that can invalidate a search. and certifications only are valid for 1 year, but frequently teams of handlers and K9's have not received the next years certification prior to the existing certification expiring...so any searches done after one expires but before obtaining a new one become invalid due to the team being out of certification and anything gathered from the search becomes fruit from the poisoned tree and can be argued and thrown out.

[@sundaywhiterabbit7679]

I think using dogs to convict people of crimes should be abolished completely. It's kinda like police using psychics to find criminals. It should have never been allowed to use dogs to convict people.

[@davidandersson9825]

If a drug dog signals and no drugs are found, isn't it reasonable to put the dog down?

[@13LesTadO13]

You should also mention that k9 handlers are required to show their dog's alert signal to you if you ask to see it. The handler can cause false hits by giving the signal to alert. Always ask before they do the search.

[@ianking8315]

pavlov proved you can condition a dog to do what you want it to.

[@johndicus]

A policeman once told me many larger police departments have that one dog that will alert on anything to get their reward and that dog will be used if they want an alert and an excuse to search your vehicle.

[@thenatural1759]

Great video. What will it take to finally discredit drug dogs all together? Handlers just prompt them anyways, or the dog never alerts and the handler just says the dog alerted. If a cop wants to search, they're going to search.

[@kevinmichaelbergman8276]

Im not fighting to get away with anything only to be treated fairly period not scared of them at all

[@captnron59]

Dog handler usually gives one round of the car and if there is no alert, they go a second time and engage the dog in play by tapping on the car and then they claim alert. Tell the handler not to personally touch your car to engage play. Never roll down more than one window to create cross flow of air which the supreme court said is necessary to have a smell

[@obijuan-]

Question: Floating around these days is the notion that if the police ask if they can search, you can take a moment to think (for dramatic effected, only) then consent. And as soon after as they start, REVOKE that consent - tell them you changed your mind and do not agree and want them to stop. The idea (loosely of course) is that allowing and then revoking - the revoking dominates their legal right, by taking back the permission. The cops can't then, simply begin again. What are your thoughts, please?

[@AECRADIO1]

ONCE YOU REVOKE CONSENT, PIGS MUST STOP SEARCHING...NO LEEWAY THERE!

[@JugglesGrenades]

My sentry dog was trained to bark, growl and show his teeth with an imperceptible double pull in his leash. No verbal command needed. This was handy. I could say "Watch him Ralph", give him to cue, and he wouldn't pull on the leash, but would stand there and show his dental "equipment." Great way to keep an intruder from even THINKING about resistance. So yes, a dog could be trained to "false alert."

[@timkern462]

Dogs are also trained to alert on an otherwise innocuous hand signal from the handler, so if the officer wants "probable cause," he gives a twitch of his wrist (or whatever) and, Boom -- instant probable cause. These deliberate false alerts are never used in the official "accuracy" tests.

[@eiland369]

A major problem is if a k9 alerts on a free air search of a vehicle but weapons are found, especially if the weapons are found locked in the trunk. And with marijuana being decriminalized in so many states and even legal in a few, drug sniffing k9s are becoming obsolete for patrol duties. They are still necessary in ports of travel and entry but for street patrol not so much.

[@mixter7x7]

Tennessee Highway Patrol is FAMOUS for illegal stops - searches and civil forfeitures - aka highway robbery. They even run FLIR cameras on blacked out suburbans at night looking for out of state tags. Driving between Memphis and Jackson Tn to visit family. Cops see my rental car - pull immediate U TURN - and come after me. I waited for them to catch up to me - light me up - and I pulled over. Cop walks up and I asked him why he pulled me over. He said he noticed my out of state tags. I asked if being from out of state was a crime ? I asked if all police cars had roof mounted FLIR cams ? He never asked for my license or reg. I asked if he had witnessed me breaking any laws. He didn't speak. Are you already remaining silent to protect yourself ? Now he knows - game on. I said - time is burning - let's cut through the BS. You want to search my car. You're not going to search my car without a warrant, exigence or pc and you have none. He said - I can call for a dog. I said - " Rodriguez " says you're out of time. You already admitted you didn't witness a crime. Your stop is admittedly pretextual. It's actually illegal. Waiting for the dog would be more illegal and you searching my car with a fabricated signal from a dog would be even more illegal. You could lose your QI in the civil rights case and I don't carry cash - just so you can't steal my money. I said - tick tick tick tick tick. Do us both a favor - take your loss - tell me to have a nice day and go find a victim who doesn't know your game. He said - have a nice day.

[@gordonlecroy4258]

I wonder what the SCOTUS was smoking when they decided that a search warrant must be signed by a judge or a dog.

[@drbcrb]

Seems to me there should be records of searches so that we know how accurate these dog results are.

[@fenntastic3461]

The violations by handler/ dog could be rectified in court, but if you have nothing of interest, they delay you for 2 hours, find no drugs, no paraphernalia, dog has a false positive, pulled over for 1 mph over posted speed limit (said he clocked it, not radared), but he just give you a warning about speed, and lets you leave, can the person who had their rights violated (traffic stop extended, Handler coerced dog to alert by tapping the back door, and nothing found), what can be done to stop that? If it went to court you could probably get any evidence tossed, but who will hold the officers responsible for detaining beyond what is permitted?

[@dryan8377]

excellent work Jeff!

[@hamptonlawfirm]

Thank you! Cheers!

[@soal3415]

I was sitting at a stop light....Michigan. A state police car pulled up next to me that had a dog. The entire time we sat at that light that dog was going ballistic at the windows ..my vehicle was the source of a would be attack. That freaked me out! I'm not a druggie...or a drinker. The windows were closed on both vehicles. Boy would I like to know what set that dog off... scarry when ur 62!

[@jonziegler6538]

Years ago I was with my wife and 2 month old daughter. We were traveling from Provo to Placer County in California, where our parents live. We arrived at the infamous Truckee "agricultural" check point on I-80. We drove to the booth. The person asked the usual questions: Where are you from? Where are you going? Do you have any fruits and vegetables? They might have have asked about weapons? We are from Provo, We are headed to Placer County for the holidays, I have no fruit in the car, there are no weapons in the car. Well, I get done answering questions. Here comes Karen Law. She has us pull over toward the offices there. I am not sure she even gave us a reason? Then she wants me to empty the luggage, cooler, etc. What did she find? no agricultural goos, nor did she find weapons. We had to repack everything. She just turned and walked off, no bye, kiss my ass, nothing. What does the law say about Calitornia's agricultural stops?

[@AECRADIO1]

TELL MISS PIGGY SHE IS BEING SUED PRIVATELY, THEN FEDERALLY! SHE CAN BE CALLED DEFENDANT AFTERWARD.

[@normbograham]

Once the police got caught using a drug dog, which was not a trained drug dog. (meaning, just a dog). So, the officer was totally creating the lie.

[@madnotez]

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[@savyquinn9529]

Dogs should need at least 80% accuracy befor they can become used in real life situation

[@AECRADIO1]

NO, IT MUST BE 100% ACCURATE, OR THEY ARE FRAUDULENT...ANYTHING LESS WILL GIVE PIGS TOO MUCH FREEDOM TO LIE EVEN MORE!

[@vegan-cannibal714]

If an officer uses a puppy to justify a search, the officer should be required to take an air sample. That sample then needs to be tested, and if no indication of drugs are found, then all evidence found needs to be thrown out.

[@doc693]

I'm glad I live in Florida and have a prescription and a card for Maryjane (THC.)

[@paulthomasshepherd5156]

I have seen drug dogs lean up to car windows with their claws on the cars paint. How can that be protected against?

[@tracyhazelton1878]

Happened to me and every single part of it was illegal and my 4th amendment rights were violated and my attorney did file a motion to suppress and the prosecutor was the one who was aware of it and I'm still fighting it.

[@lonknight3197]

What if your van is your home, do they need a warrent? Also what if i have my own dog in the van , the drug dog is just going to react to my dog.

[@scottcasey7108]

Great presentation!

[@EmMae1.0]

Great information. Thank you sir!

[@Tyrith1327]

I thought the Supreme Court had ruled smell was not sufficient enough to establish probable cause to search? Is this correct or no?