LAWYER: Should Cops Arrest People for Mouthing Off?

[@doom4067]

When cops arrest people for insulting them, it doesn't exactly prove those people wrong.

[@guitarzFla]

Exactly. The earn the hate and then get mad when they get it.

[@Cloncurrify]

There is such a thing as poking the bear. It's like crossing the road at a pedestrian crossing and seeing a car running a red light, about to run you over. Do you: (A) Jump out of the way to avoid getting killed or maimed? Or (B) Stand your ground to assert your legal right to cross the road and highlight to the driver in court how legally wrong he was from the comfort of your hospital bed? Going out of your way to pick fights and "assert your legal rights" is not smart. Cops are dangerous enough to deal with when you're minding your own business and they decide to get a bee in their bonnet and disrespect your legal rights. Going out of your way to pick a fight with cops is D-U-M-B: of course they're going to smash you. They smash innocent law abiding citizens, let alone mouthy upstarts spoiling for a fight. Don't poke the bear. It's not worth it. Andrew is right: play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

[@senseofstile]

@@Cloncurrify Yes. However the cops are the only ones allowed to react to it. They are very childish and lack cognitive ability. I don't advise it but, you can insult a variety of people on the job. It is illegal for them to react.

[@FamilyWithoutHousing]

​​@@CloncurrifyWhat you say may be true, but your emphasis and framing are totally wrong!

[@ahoyer2]

The police should be doing the de-escalation, not the citizens that are being subjected to unlawful seizures of their ID for 1st amendment protected speech.

[@justanothercomment416]

Police training comes from a foreign country in which escalation at every possible turn is a requirement. That policy is now playing out on a global stage in the news.

[@selfdo]

​@@justanothercomment416Just SAY IT. Our LEOs are being trained by IDF veterans. Treat Americans the way Isra-Hell treats Palestinians.

[@belliaus]

The problem is mouthing off. Would you mouth off to a random person in the street? your boss? Your co worker? Just because you can doesn’t make it right. Cops are fathers, sons, mothers, daughters too. Why does everyone think the first amendment is there to give you the ability to verbally abuse someone? People don’t have morals anymore!!!

[@justanothercomment416]

@@selfdo You are completely correct. I'm marked. If I say it will be rmvd.

[@Cloncurrify]

Lol I'm no fan of police but if you're going to deliberately block a squad car and be rude to police, they're going to smash you and you're crazy if you think you're going to get away with it. Police don't respect law abiding citizens and regularly trample over the legal rights of citizens who rightfully stand up for themselves. Some of these citizens are victims of extreme police brutality and overreach. In other words there are plenty of cops who don't know how to de-escalate even under ideal circumstances with a law abiding citizens asserting their legal rights. So to deliberately insult cops and expect them to de-escalate is crazy. We don't have the right to shut our brains down and act like jerks and expect cops to be angels who don't react even when the instigator refuses to back down. It's just not a realistic expectation.

[@brettstarks1846]

Plenty of people in various lines of work have to put up with attitude and disrespect - and they somehow manage to get by without physically retaliating. Cops just need to grow up.

[@BK-zp8vl]

We learned in kindergarten, stick and stone break bones but words……

[@breadhed2486]

​@@BK-zp8vl will get you slamed to the pavement and arrested

[@Clancydaenlightened]

Pissing off and disrespecting a cop isn't illegal And is protected speech...

[@Cloncurrify]

Even when you block a squad car just to be an @sshole to the cops and ignore multiple orders to move out of the way of their car? Come on, that's not a constitutional right. I've seen footage of police brutality because people refused to prove ID (and they were 100% legally right). Cops are very dangerous people and should be avoided at all times, unless you have a genuine need and call for them yourself. (And even THEN there are people who called the cops to report a prowler and ended up being shot by accident through no fault of their own). Key word: "dangerous" So deliberately insulting cops (aka "dangerous people") to provoke a reaction is stupid. That's not asserting your first amendment rights, that's looking for trouble and trying to be a legal smart @ss about it. Is your life or physical well being worth risking over a stupid and unnecessary encounter just to boost your own ego? The first guy is almost Darwinian in his stupidity.

[@Cloncurrify]

@FilzupBilburp Lol Right Go be a smart ass in a nightclub on a Saturday night and come back and tell me about your legal rights.

[@Cloncurrify]

@FilzupBilburp No it is not. Go and speak like that to a private citizen and see where it gets you. Life has consequences.

[@MrJohn33751]

You don't have to provide your ID if you are standing on the sidewalk and you haven't committed a crime.

[@C2Talon]

More than half the states have some form of "stop and identify" laws. Personally, I'd make sure to look up the law on it before assuming that I can just not provide identifying information without consequence. I mean I went on a road trip a few months back and looked up the laws on that in each state I was going to be in. Once I left my home state that doesn't have a stop and identify law, every state I went through, to include the state that was the destination and I stayed in for a while, had some sort of "stop and identify" law. I wasn't thrilled because I don't really like giving out even just my name most of the time, but at least I was armed with that knowledge.

[@gta4everrr]

@@C2Talon There is no state in this country where you're required to provide I.D. upon arbitrary demand of a police officer. At a minimum, the police must have reasonable articulable suspicion that you're engaged in criminal activity. You're probably not reading the statutes correctly.

[@C2Talon]

​@@gta4everrr How precious of you to think the police follow the law. The police can and do come up with any excuse they want to justify asking for some identifying info, even after the fact. And even if they know their charges won't stick. They do it all the time. It's also why they get away with arresting people for only "obstruction of justice" or "resisting arrest", because those charges are an easy addon charge that will stick on simply a police officer's word alone.

[@Milesco]

​@@C2Talon Nonetheless, "gta4everrr" is 100% correct. Of course, I would always advise people to use common sense and be cool, don't attract attention, and don't be a dick. But if you follow that advice and a cop _still_ demands your ID, you would be perfectly justified in respectfully declining. (Emphasis on "respectfully".) If the cop _still_ arrests you at that point, you have a valid lawsuit against them. Even the graffiti artist -- who _didn't_ follow my advice -- wound up with a $16,500 settlement.

[@jwhome9319]

@@C2Talon Some states have specific stop and ID lasw some states have general laws that a person cannot resist, obstruct delay an officer performing his duty. A duty can be to stop and detain with reasonable suspicion but less than probable cause to make an arrest for a crime but to simply investigate. Cops dont like to make those arrests. If officer may have made an arrest only for simply to fail to ID, the prosecutor will often to decline prosecution even if there is a violation, or the judge may dismiss the case....that doesnt mean the officer did not have justification to stop, detain and demand ID.

[@CarnivoreRonin]

I am torn, I understand the "Don't poke the bear" aspect of this. Still, there is a part of my conscience that applauds them for doing so.

[@BK-zp8vl]

Poking the bear is as American as apple pie!

[@FatherDraven]

Maybe we should stop giving the bears guns and telling them to collect workers for the labor camps!

[@KarlH1980]

You're thoughts are probably more in line with those of John Q Public than many of those posting cop hating opinions on this thread. Your thoughts are the same as any person trying working towards better juror's prudence and is precisely why Lady Justice is holding a scale. It is constant matter of finding balance.

[@XPd0042]

Sorry but you're wrong on this one. He didn't bring it up on himself. Those cops brought it on him because of their egos. The problem isn't the man committing no crime. The problem is the cops attacking people they don't like under the color of law. Big L take on this one.

[@danielburleson563]

Cops should never arrest anyone for words unless it's a direct, unambiguous threat. Period. NO EXCEPTIONS

[@itowmyhome797]

As long as the police are not held accountable and they can do anything they want when you hurt their little feelings, and the city and the government protect them, and pay all costs incurred from their behavior. This will continue.

[@razvandobos9759]

Being bullied in school is a far too common symptom for these egotistical cops.

[@Roy-tg2il]

There is some truth to this. I have friends who are police and deputies. They had one officer that was bullied in school and became a crappy officer. He was eventually fired from that department. There are a lot of good officers and they don’t like jerk police because it makes their jobs harder.

[@senseofstile]

I remember when I was in high school, a friend made that observation. "The cops are all guys that got pushed around in elementary school."

[@Milesco]

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I believe cops are the ones who *_were_* bullies in school. And when they grew up, they found a job that allowed them to continue to be bullies in the real world. I myself was teased and bullied mercilessly as a kid in school. I have never had any desire to bully others or throw my weight around.

[@DICKWAGON]

@@razvandobos9759 I've found the exact opposite to be true. The bullies in school go into law enforcement and then become bullies of the community.

[@bradhowlett1]

Oh, so THAT is how to get settlement checks! THIS is the right way to "defund" the police. It forces them to do a better job, know the law, and not make false arrests. Once there are no more reasons for settlements or suits, there is nothing left for them to waste money on. Right?

[@RobertLanden1]

If you are threatening to harm someone or harming someone or robbing someone, anyone is free to stop you. No one needs a badge to protect peaceful people. You only need a badge to get away with extorting and violently punishing peaceful people for disobedience.

[@yasminenasser-rafi3696]

The cops are at fault. Torturing him by force is inuman and unjust. He didn't bring it upon himself.

[@paulofrota3958]

He totally did.

[@yasminenasser-rafi3696]

@@paulofrota3958 only tyrants act that way. Not in a free society when unarmed civilians are sovereign. All civilians are sovereign for that matter. You and the abusive cops are constitution illiterates

[@gta4everrr]

@@paulofrota3958 He was an asshole, but the cops could've just walked away, like anyone else would've been expected to.

[@Cloncurrify]

​​​@gta4everrr They couldn't walk away. He was deliberately blocking their squad car. He did everything in his power to stop the cops and prevent them from leaving. It was insane. It takes a special kind of stupid to pick a fight with someone wearing a badge, a gun, and some handcuffs. Legal rights aside, it's just dangerous, dumb, and unnecessary. I can't believe I'm defending cops because I think most cops are unaccountable and a law unto themselves, but that guy was insane. He thought he was untouchable and I'm not sure what it was about police that made him think his legal rights gave him the ability to seek out opportunities to openly defy police authority and get away it.

[@Cloncurrify]

@FilzupBilburp Has nothing to do with simping. It's about stupidity: deliberately baiting a cop with rudeness and blocking a police vehicle + refusing to get out of the way. If you want to deliberately provoke cops so you get beaten up, more power to you. Yes cops don't have a right to assault people but people also have to take responsibility if they're baiting others. If that guy did that outside a nightclub to another private citizen, he'd wake up sleeping on the floor. Some people want to endure unnecessary pain and suffering to prove a point in court about some legal right that the cops weren't even violating to begin with (until the guy got the cop's attention on purpose + wouldn't let the cops leave). I prefer to give cops a wide berth and not talk to them unless legally required to do so. Why? Because cops are dangerous and a law unto themselves. Pointing out this was guy was spoiling for a confrontation isn't simping. It's basic self preservation. But feel free to provoke cops into violence against your person and have your day of victory in court. I sympathise with victims of police brutality who didn't bring the situation upon themselves (i.e. 99% of people who are not *this* guy) I'll just walk by and mind my own business.

[@edwardcollins8102]

"And remember, Don't Talk to the Police." Wouldn't something as innocuous as exercising your 5th amendment rights be offensive to these jackasses? Especially the latter incident.

[@WIGDIGITY1]

Then the first amendment means nothing if you can be punished for speaking. Total bootlicking behavior.

[@allones3078]

painting the victim as deserving it is some pro-cop gaslighting BS

[@jackjohnson4386]

I don't think he's suggesting they deserved it. He's just giving people like them advice to help avoid this type of thing

[@laurajaneluvsbeauty9596]

Are you seriously even asking this question? They retaliate by arresting you for the first amendment. They need to grow a pair

[@XPd0042]

How dare Kenny express himself. He should have averted his gaze and avoided speaking out in hopes that the police state won't knock on (or knock down) his door one day.

[@Bacteriophagebs]

The police always win. Even if they're sued, they don't foot the bill, almost never get fired (and if they do, they're rehired by another department), and get prosecuted so rarely it may as well never happen for all the use it is as a deterrent.

[@rachelf6745]

4:10 he did NOT bring it on himself he called them dumbasses and they decided to commit police brutality. the COP committed aggravated assault here and should be fired and jailed.

[@rachelf6745]

i could maybe, MAYBE, see a case for obstruction of justice, IF this was an ongoing pattern, but charging the victim with assault?!?!? he did nothing!

[@ゲンソウ]

I'd go a step further and say they took the bait, assaulted him, and now he has a civil rights case against them.

[@TheSupervillain316]

Problem is you lose even when you win with this stuff. They'll put you through this nonsense just because they can, and don't care.

[@BK-zp8vl]

And that’s the problem and is authoritarian. Let freedom ring!

[@SterbiusMcGurbius]

If cops knew the law, they'd be lawyers.

[@gta4everrr]

Pays a lot better, if you're not a public defender.

[@GeorgeJefferson1775]

It's pretty sad when the best advice is not to have the cops notice you.

[@zlwFan]

LOL, when an abuser abuses you you brought it upon yourself. Interesting way to waste my tax dollars.

[@therebetterbepuppies]

I appreciate the plain & simple approach with these videos. It feels more than authentic

[@countysecession]

If everyone showed less respect to these government employees then it wouldn't be a problem for anyone to do so.

[@itowmyhome797]

They would just be more people, physically, and mentally abused from these immature not held accountable thugs

[@gmmaupin]

The number of videos on KZbin where cops bully people or worse leads me to think in this time of cameras everywhere that cops routinely get away with bullying, intimidation, harassment and violence without facing any consequences. Even though they must be aware their own body cameras record the crimes against citizens, they do it anyway. That makes it seem like they do it all the time and nobody calls the out on it. Poor people can't afford lawyers to defend them and the public defenders are so busy they have to pick their battles and risk retribution from cops who routinely violate rights and bully citizens.

[@coreyyanofsky]

maybe instead of negatively highlighting individuals for exercising their freedom to verbally oppose and challenge police action -- the permissibility of which distinguishes a free nation from a police state, at least according to the Supreme Court -- you could prominently mention the Justice Department's extensive report on the Phoenix PD's record of ongoing civil rights violations

[@jscheman]

Phoenix police have a policy that they can’t force someone into giving fingerprints outside of the booking process.

[@travisr4970]

It's called "Contempt of Cop".

[@DarthPhallic_1]

Doesn't override the First Amendment. Cohen v California 1971.

[@DICKWAGON]

Hey why no new videos

[@michaelboyes1947]

I thought the police were trained to de-escalate, not jack people up. What happened to "To Protect and Serve"? It seems to have morphed into "Harass and Bully".

[@exile220ify]

You've let me down this time Andrew.... I never expected you to play the victim-blaming card in one of your videos.

[@KirkCallender]

He didn't bring it on himself. You can say whatever you want. You can't assault people

[@kelleysmith27]

I believe you should stand for your rights, no matter how convenient it is not to be arrested because the only way we will make change in this world is if everybody stands for their rights and quits, allowing tyrants to keep chipping away at them until we have none left!!

[@alblanzjr]

Cops will laugh in your face while saying "You may beat the rap, but you WILL NOT beat the ride!! NOTHING will get retaliation like the UNFORGIVEABLE SIN of CONTEMPT OF COP!!!

[@clipsdelosmajes]

No.

[@augustwest9727]

In all these cases, your free in name only; because if you step out of line, they will figure out how ruin your life.

[@cakekomo]

4:08 I normally enjoy your videos and I have learned a lot from you. But this statement is as obtuse as "well, she shouldn't have been wearing that".

[@thatmaninblack]

IDK. If you are out there, they'll notice you. Same to the non-uniformed criminals. If they are bored, if they want trouble, they find it, regardless of anything. If they can't find anything illegal, they lie and they say you did commit a crime, even though you didn't. We were leafleting, 100% LEGAL. Against violent crimes. 100% LEGAL. Then 5 cop cars surrounded us and they said we violated a city code, and it's illegal to leafleting without a permit. They gave us a $500 fine (to each of us). Later it was dropped. I thought for many years that it was just a moral thing, that's why it was dropped, but I looked it up, they literally lied to us about the permit thing. The permit was NOT about the leafleting, it was for putting up signs, posters for advertisement. So all the cops lied there, they made up a non-existing law, pretty much. Then their superior got scared of a lawsuit and thrown out the tickets. Yet, he did NOT admit his deputies' corruption, he just said it would be "wrong to get a ticket for leafleting against crimes". What a mess... 😕 So, the only way they wouldn't notice you, if you would live like a rat, if you wouldn't live your home, if you would NEVER use your basic / Constitutional rights, etc. Sadly, it's not only an American issue, bad police is everywhere, I had negative experiences with the police in Hungary too. They lie, they hand out fake tickets, they make up laws, they are serving politics instead of "the People" there too.

[@Isaac_132]

Oh, for the record, with Joshua in Leon Valley Texas, in Texas, according ot 38.02 the ID law, you only have to ID to the police after you've been lawfully arrested. When you're detained, you have no legal obligation to ID to a cop.

[@FamilyWithoutHousing]

"Brought it upon himself" is very strong language for just words that are legal to say. If someone drinks like a fish and drives and ends up with a DUI, they brought THAT upon themselves, this is just the police being stupid and overreacting. Also, in the end, which way did the money go? Cha-ching! 🤣

[@steveolive9991]

The cops waste their time arresting a guy for using sidewalk chalk while a thief is robbing a bank....

[@1anthonybrowning]

In Texas a citizen can not be compelled to identify unless pulled over while driving or after placed under arrest.

[@texasforever7887]

Statute 38.02

[@sleze]

Kenny was clearly being a jerk. However, the way you said, "he picked a fight" kinda bothers me. I get what you are saying but he was clearly arrested for contempt of cop. There were no excuses for those cops and I feel like that abuse of authority borders on criminal (on their part). Consequences of being a jerk is getting treated unprofessionally - not belligerently with physical attacks.

[@agm65ccip]

The way I see it he did pick a fight. Imagine the same scenario where Kenny is at a restaurant and goes up to a guy and berates him and his wife AND then comes back to berate them at their car. How many people would say Kenny was fine in his actions? Cops are people too. We have enough problems with cops acting badly that we don’t need to create problems for views on social media.

[@Razgriz85]

@@agm65ccip The cops are public servants, and shouldn't let their egos get the better of them. If they can't handle getting heckled, which is protected speech, they should find another job.

[@agm65ccip]

@@Razgriz85how about transportation workers? DMV employees? They are also public employees. Next time I’m on the city bus I should be fine to just sit up in the front and disparage the lady’s ability to drive based on her gender? I don’t believe the way to have interactions be respectful across the board is to tell one group of people they just have to eat the hate because of their job.

[@kevinsargent]

Too much justifying constitutional violations. Would hate to have this guy as a lawyer. Can you Imagine? The victim wouldn't have been shot if he wasn't running his mouth. Must be a tax lawyer or something. Couldn't pay me to hire this guy.

[@mrj8188]

Kenny's about to be effin rich!

[@glee21012]

Notice the cops don't do this if there is a crowd of people mouthing off to them. Hmmm, why is that? 🤔

[@johnmcconnell7052]

Il put it this way cops like these are common had a cop once tell me it wasn't a threat when someone who was screaming at me said I'd kill you with my shotgun if it wasn't illegal. And I've had to decline giving my ID to cops who just randomly stop me when I'm walking in town and such. Cops need to understand they either step aside or follow the law.

[@greenflagracing7067]

in some states cops have a right to request ID from anyone, anywhere, but in my state, "ID" just means a verbal statement and does not require showing identification papers unless the person is driving a car. in California, a conditional threat like "if it wasn't illegal" is still a crime. "we have concluded the use of the word "if" in defendant's threat does not absolve defendant from liability" People v Stanfield.

[@johnmcconnell7052]

@greenflagracing7067 and the threat took place in cali. Hence why I don't really respect law enforcement when ever I deal with them I give bare minimum I'm not here to help them fuck me over and they can kindly fuck off and let me go about my day. Course I just got a warning from guidelines so let's see them ban this comment because they think it's bullying someone.

[@texasforever7887]

In Texas Statute 28.02 States: A person commits an offense if he intentionally refuses to give his name, residence address, or date of birth to a peace officer who has lawfully arrested the person and requested the information. You must be Lawfully Arrested before you are required to ID yourself unless you are driving.

[@bradhowlett1]

"Show me the man, I'll show you the crime." 2 Felonies.

[@TheMelnTeam]

The police committed a violent felony against Kenny. That they are not charged with it demonstrates a complete lack of justice.

[@dennisblankenship1310]

I can’t describe how incensed I was at hearing @Andrewflusche both blaming the victims for thin skinned cops brutalizing people who are in no way threatening or committing crimes, while simultaneously rationalizing and minimizing the cops’ behavior. I sincerely hope your clients are aware of this attitude. Do you also blame rape victims for the dress? Robbery victims for looking affluent? Seriously dude, is this what “protect and serve” looks like to you? Do you think victims of police brutality will see this and be drawn to you for representation?

[@BrianMaddox]

Should you try to get a rise out of the police? No. But I can't get people arrested when they call me bad names. I also can't slam them to the ground for calling me bad names. Again, if you are allowed to use lethal force freely and get off with "qualified immunity", you really ought to be held to a higher standard.

[@lurkerrekrul]

The moral of the story is that when cops are around, you don't have rights, you only have whatever privileges the cops feel like allowing you to have. "Contempt of cop" is the most common reason for non-criminals to be arrested.

[@OperationNorthwoods]

There is no freedom of speech if cops are permitted to "find something" on which they can arrest you simply because their feelings get hurt. That type of cop has no business being a cop; he's a lawsuit waiting to happen.

[@caleblarsen5490]

Contempt of cop is truly a heinous act.

[@michiganmaxedout6248]

I sure hope you meant to upload this one on April 1st and just forgot to double check the calendar. Because "keep your head down, don't make eye contact, don't speak unless spoken to, and try not to draw the goobermint's attention" isn't how free people are supposed to live.

[@temporaryscars]

So because cops are corrupt, we can't have flashy cars and window tint? You say we should just cower and hide from cops? Screw that noise. Bad take.

[@Razgriz85]

That's police state bs right there. Don't do anything to provoke the violent street gang with badges.

[@Jamesaepp]

"Sadly Kenny brought it upon himself" No, Andrew. We can't say "The woman brought the S A upon herself when she dressed in a provocative manner." That's not how liberty works. Just the same, we can't say "The citizen brought the police retaliation upon themself when they engaged in controversial speech."

[@hristoskof1]

I understand your point, but in real life, things work differently, and you also have some responsibility for how these interactions play out.

[@Jamesaepp]

@@hristoskof1 of course people are responsible for their own safety. That doesn't eradicate the responsibility of everyone else to not aggress others as in Kenny's interaction.

[@Recall3333]

Well said OP, at what point is the line drawn, someones idea of offensive can differ widely, i mean not to say those first two cops were thin skinned but they were, and thats my point i wouldnt find that offensive but clearly they did, enough to brutalize a man and no giving ur opinion calming albiet snarkily doesnt justify that

[@phuck8627]

Cops shouldn't be allowed to assault and kidnap people for offending them, but that's not at all the same as blaming a woman for a man's actions because of "how she was dressed", being dressed a certain way has nothing to do with SA and anyone claiming otherwise is well aware they're full of it, actually going up to someone and saying things to make them angry intentionally is different than wearing shorts

[@jwhome9319]

They should be held to the same standard as judges.

[@Toshineko]

I appreciate your objectivity on this one, Andrew. But here's where I have to disagree about the last guy. In order for him to provide ID, cops need to provide reasonable, articulable suspicion that he is, was or is about to commit a crime. Because marking with crayons is not a crime, he had every legal right to refuse to provide ID. Sadly, the SCOTUS still affirms that cops don't NEED to know their own laws, which is why these wrongful arrests STILL continue to this day, even on polite but firm people.

[@texasforever7887]

Look at Texas Statute 28.02. You must be lawfully arrested before being required to show ID. Unless driving a vehicle.

[@cpnut99-ic2yl]

If you're involved in some kind of disagreement with the police and you curse them out that's one thing, but to walk right up to random cops and curse them out is just wrong cause they haven't done anything to you.

[@economath8164]

I used to feel bad about the taxpayers having to foot the bill, but if they want to live in ignorance of how many incompetent thugs with badges that their jurisdiction employs and won'tbring political pressure to bear, then they sort of deserve to eat the cost of that complacency.

[@rg1whiteywins598]

I think it's best to shut up around the police. If you aren't committing a crime, shut up and politely move on. If you need to go back to where you were, wait until the police leave.

[@Razgriz85]

So, treat them like any violent street gang. Don't stand up for your rights because the thin blue line gang might get mad and harm you.

[@Bbdrifty]

“How dare you speak to me” 😡 “now I get to throw you on the 100+ degree ground hurt you to get compliance” And the ignorance of the second cop is absolutely ridiculous and astonishing… If they are going to have this kind of job then they should KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING! We are screwed by our own government way too often for this to be something that they are not actively working on fixing… 🤬🤬🤬😤😤😤

[@aaronjoby]

Kenny may have acted like an ass, but those cops broke the law and belong in prison. Every single one of them aren’t men.

[@koolkevin2357]

I love You.... Man! Thanks for what you do. Seriously.

[@brandexample1776]

38.02 Joshua had no legal obligation to give hie ID. You are telling people to bow to tyrants. No.

[@joeylowell293]

sorry buddy this is bullshit yeah that guy may have been a dick BUT the cops have no right to do what they did and i hope he sues the fuck out of them!! also i disagree with you on not doing anything to get the cops to look your way the cops are supposed to be pros and that means ignoring assholes unless they break the law. my dad use to be a cop but because of how they are he quit and told us cops are not your friend and to only call them if you or somebody i9s dying.

[@jackblog-k7m]

I guess we see what happens when you’re not Tyreek Hill..

[@scraspjscraspj2656]

If cops can mouth off to citizens, we should be able to mouth off to them

[@simonbundee8588]

If Kenny walked up to me and said those things the only reasonable option I would have is just walk away. The cops assaulted Kenny because they believe they could. Cops are bound by the same laws as everyone else. This lawyer saying Kenny was asking for it just excuses police violence. Maybe this lawyer thinks Rosa Parks should have just sat at the back of the bus too.

[@yeroldfatdad]

Back the blue, until it happens to you. I just unsubscribed, Andrew Flusche. Wrong advice. Audit the Audit is next unless he gets his head out of the blue line bs.

[@Tim_the_Enchanter]

Whatever your "rights" may be, purposefully antagonizing the cops seems less than wise. They got a whole big, confusing book of laws they can throw at you if you piss them off (and many of them are already pissed most of the time).

[@Razgriz85]

If the cops can't handle being heckled, they need to find new jobs. And it's "they will make up any bullshit they want to in order to force you into submission, even if the phony charges don't stick, it'll waste your time and money in court." The police state needs to end and the bad cops, from top to bottom, need to be punished for their crimes.

[@dennisblankenship1310]

You strike me as the “well why were you dressed like that?” and “you shouldn’t have shown off your jewelry like that.” If the commenters rake you over the coals here, remember that “you were asking for it.”

[@TheErpa22276]

So, youre basically defending the criminals in this situation. Way to go...

[@erider83]

Why the victim blaming? Do you blame women for an SA because of their outfit?

[@pipestress1]

The fact that these videos are a staple of KZbin indicates that the public should be protected from cops who suffer from hurt feelings. Being arrested for "contempt of cop" should be relegated to the dustbin of history.

[@REXOB9]

The sidewalk chalk case is absurd... will they start arresting preschoolers for drawing with sidewalk chalk?

[@roadcalm3303]

When the police lose a lawsuit due to misconduct, they should start taking a big percentage off the settlement out of their paycheck and pension. If it affects them personally I guarantee you will see a drastic drop in this kind of behavior.

[@MorbidGod391]

Is everything okay?

[@souchoysaeteurn5211]

I work in healthcare. I wish I can refuse to give someone their meds and/or provide care everytime someone insults me

[@dennisblankenship1310]

Not sure you have the right temperament for that job, if that is actually what you wish.

[@jsedbe0624]

Should they? No. Do they? All the freaking time.

[@coolraul07]

4:00 - Andrew, Andrew, Andrew... 🤦 You saying "he brought it on himself" is giving the same kind of vibes as those that say, "she brought it on herself" when a woman dresses scantily and gets drunk at a bar. This is victim blaming at its worse. The DOJ recently released a SCATHING review of the Phoenix PD and even cited this incident (as many more) in their report. Even if he wasn't cussing the cops, there's ZERO guarantee they wouldn't have done the same thing to him anyway. Watch the series of videos about the DOJ report on ABC15's YT channel. As for the 2nd dude, you putting the onus on him to deescalate is BEYOND laughable. He told them that it was NOT indelible (which is obvious), AND he told them about a prior judge ruling that favored him. As per your ubiquitous advice, he shouldn't have said ANYTHING to the police. There was ZERO exigency here that precluded the cops from reading the statute and/or calling to find out whether what he said about the court case was true. In other words, INVESTIGATION! It's one thing to advise people against acting like the first guy. But to actually go the extra mile to actively victim-blame?! Dude... DO BETTER... BE BETTER.

[@necroslair]

Contempt of Cop is a serious offense…

[@healingtheinnerchild7313]

He brought it upon himself? Now that I know that you're the type to blame the victim, it's time to unsubscribe. And I'd be willing to bet I won't be the only one. Oh, and you brought it upon yourself.

[@puppydog8977]

It should be: have they broken any laws not have they done anything wrong

[@superviro]

Absolutely they should keep doing it. I need the money and these things often settle pretty quick in court.

[@Recall3333]

That second guy literally went to record for his safety and evidence for his 4TH court case regarding this exact thing there was ABSOLUTELY no reason they shouldve put their hands on him. Why so we have to rely on their body cams that conveniently cut out or mute during critical times? I feel like they saw that phone and knew he was about to put them on film so they cuffed him which is so unethical and immoral i hate the idea of these people walking around with guns. Lets not justify abuse. Our best solution should not be "comply with their unlawful demands"

[@gta4everrr]

The cops featured in this video should 100% be in jail. Kenny is an asshole, sure. But police should be expected to have better restraint. Just walk away. Cops bear more responsibility for de-escalating a situation since, typically, they're the ones who initiate it, especially in Joshua's case. You don't arrest someone or even put them in handcuffs for "disrespect." It's childish. We've set the bar way too fucking low for police nowadays and the results speak for themselves.

[@mccainjay]

For the most part, cops don’t Need to KNOW the law, because they have qualified immunity.

[@AbdielMorales-rb2qv]

According to the Constitution as long as one living man/woman doesnt hurt another man/woman and/ or cause another man/woman loss/damage of another man/woman property there isnt NO CRIME.

[@tenorman33]

Andrew, are you victim blaming? Do you tell a women who was assaulted that she was asking for it by the easy she was dressed?

[@garylmedlock]

Did you not see how short that dude’s skirt was?! Definitely asking for it

[@ronaldsmall8847]

Chalk guy shouldn't even have been carrying his ID, let alone giving it to cops.

[@ijustrealllylikecats]

With Phoenix police there's no such thing as de-escalation, they escalate as much as they can. You get pulled over just waiting for the bus, it's insane here.

[@AndyJP]

Hi! I would like to see a video about what to do if a cop approaches you while you are out in public and not in a car. Do they have the right to search you and your belongings? I'd also like to ask about legal issues during a protest.

[@iamquest2018]

Why should he give his ID if he didn’t commit a crime?

[@brad6551]

Make them take the pay outs from their pension fund and watch how quickly they stop doing it

[@erickrueda16]

Remember guys its a felony to hurt a cops ego

[@Norm-R]

Whats most frustrating about case 2 is that the cops are just allowed to not know the law, but us civilians aren't. One of us literally has the job title of law enforcement. Those cops are so lucky the guy back at the station knew the law or it could have gone much worse for them. But its also why cops really should be required to carry malpractice insurance like doctors so that when suits are brought up against their conduct, it doesn't cost the average citizen.