Live! Real Lawyer Reacts: Adelson Trial Bombshell Stops Trial Before It Starts - Ethical Issues?

[@bethaltmann868]

Peter my husband and I both agree you would make a good law professor. You explain things very well !

[@KatenJace]

Yes he really would. He’s great with examples and breaking it down to lay ppl. My husband and I listen to his breakdowns as well.

[@jonathanyoyoo]

Yes professor and maybe be a judge too !!

[@carolsisti7203]

I agree, in his spare time he would be awesome adjunct professor. Lol. The issue at hand is… is there enough time in a day?? lol 😊

[@carolsisti7203]

A judge most definitely. Peter would be a great judge. Fair and balanced and a great person overall. I’ve been watching this channel since 50k subscribers. This is the best community on KZbin. IMO

[@wernerfoerster3666]

please stop

[@JE4-1]

As a criminal defense attorney myself, That lawyer should not have accepted Donna as a client in the first place!! It was absurd! 💯

[@marytorbert5212]

All of us non lawyers agree! The writing was on the wall from the beginning! My question is WHY? Why do this? Why risk it? Doesn’t help him or his defendant.

[@H37P5kY57]

Was this some tactic that they did do it this way? What are some of the advantages to reschedule or get new attorneys?

[@EffSharp]

You are absolutely correct. Defender here. 20 years. Never seen a crim defense lawyer do this. Never even heard about it happening. I think Rashbaum was too personally involved, cared so much about Donna and her money that he lost sight of ethics.

[@BuffyLynn]

Almost as absurd as Donna choosing him since he got her son life in prison. 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@judimoore1678]

According to the jail calls, Rashbomb was excellent!

[@MsRyannEsq]

As a lawyer, I just cannot understand how it got this far with no signed waivers by both Adelsons. I've always made folks sign it at the time they sign the retainer agreement.

[@EffSharp]

How would that have helped? Charlie could have withdrawn that waiver at any time, including during the trial, which would have been a lot worse. I think this judge, who I adore, really messed up by not removing Rashbaum the moment Charlie was put on the states witness list.

[@u.synlig]

@@EffSharp To have summarily "removed" Rashbaum (when Charles A. was added to the witness list) would have required the judge to overstep his authority. As Judge Everett inferred, Rashbaum represented that he was on top of his ethical reponsibilities to both his former and current clients. The ball was in Rashbaum's court; and, while the judge _could have_ 'nannied' or nagged Rashbaum to make sure that this licensed attorney and officer of the court had continued to 'do his homework' as the case progressed, Judge Everett had every right to believe that this experienced (and well-compensated) attorney was not failing at his job.

[@freespiritchristina]

@@EffSharp I hear you… I think this was such an unusual situation, & the Judge didn’t imagine it would play out like this! Last sec!! Most lawyers haven’t even seen this happen before! In hindsight, I think he knows his mistake, and won’t let it happen again! 🙃

[@KatenJace]

@@u.synligthis. Ppl are angry with state on this and saying they dropped the ball but the whole time-every status hearing-the judge has reminded Donna of her rights to be represented by someone free from conflict. There’s only so much they all could do without seeming to overstep and either give her legal advice or be in way of due process. There’s real limits to what they could accomplish. They assumed rashbaum would be competent and would cover his own fool arse. 😂

[@Jpfinn3408]

Why does Charlie even think he will get off on appeal and refuses the waiver .Rashy is so intertwined with his “mummy “ Donna that he is utterly incompetent .hope he pays the price in terms of his law practise. He wasn’t that great as Charlie s lawyer n Donna is a fool to hire him

[@fitflik4784]

This is absolutely insane. Why Roshbaum was allowed to be her lawyer from the get go made no sense.

[@riannarodriguez9759]

This!!

[@u.synlig]

"Allowed"? It is the client's choice, but certain requirements must be met.

[@michaelcalland801]

Rasbaum never should’ve agreed to represent Donna due to the conflict with Charlie. He just wanted to keep the Adelson checks rolling in. He made a small fortune representing Charlie & he knew Donna & Harvey would pay whatever he asked.

[@richardwait1206]

No one can stop a defendant choosing her lawyer the judge gave her many opportunities to change her attorney.

[@BuffyLynn]

@@fitflik4784What’s insane is that she’d choose the same lawyer who got her son life in prison!🙄

[@chacha-Ce83]

So sad for The Markel family and shame on the despicable adelson family

[@Justso_Weather_Vain]

I personally enjoyed when the DA was asked if she had anything she wanted to say and she stated she had nothing that was appropriate to be put on the record with the Judge agreeing. Yes, girl! Also, thank you Judge for charging the defense financially for this entire mess!

[@aday1637]

Profanity, no doubt

[@susanphillips-t4z]

Love Georgia and the judge. They both have integrity. Something you do not see often in the courtroom.

[@sherrym921]

I heard the same thing this morning!

[@suelutz5364]

I think it's not just financially; the delay will be accounted to the defense, so they can't claim she was denied a speedy trial, I think.

[@tmhamer3086]

@@suelutz5364that is correct!

[@fredawilliams7272]

Oh and I Love the judge's voice!

[@thomasclark9517]

Imagine Donna’s mindset now. Harvey can’t chat privately with her. Her son is ruining her own legal defense, Wendi has walked away from her and her other son hates her. And now, her favorite lawyer can’t represent her. And as a result of Charlie’s decision, she will still be in jail again for another 8 months before her trial even begins.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

Donna was calling Rash 6-10 times a day according to her call logs. She and Rash cannot and will not ever talk again (or their conversations will not be privileged and anyone can request copies to listen to them) Donna is going cold turkey no contact with the last person who was willing to “act as a son” (rash said he thinks of Donna like a mom) Donna’s living in her own deserved hell.

[@YIKESMF]

Love those little revenge dishes. Chilly!

[@bellalugosi5853]

County jail beats prison by a LOT.

[@carolsisti7203]

@@bellalugosi5853I’ve been to neither; however, I don’t think that’s the case in Brevard County Florida. It’s my understanding that the county jail in Brevard is worse than any Florida prison. 🤷‍♀️🤷‍♀️

[@edu456]

Pay back or karma, she is a horrible person.

[@lindsayshea]

Donna cried no tears for Dan or the Markels, only for HERSELF…..

[@edu456]

Or for Charlie, her son, didn't see her there during his trial or Harvey for that matter.

[@Globelle]

​@@edu456Harvey wasn't even there which tells me this was already known among the Adelsons

[@annetjievz]

True, the tears are all because of the tremendously misplaced victim mentality.

[@meganjenkins2384]

Well, she is facing a charge for murder. But yes, she has had that persona all along. They are all very very OVERLY confident. I think her crying was her confidence being knocked RIGHT down. However, I don't think it would have gone well having the same attorney , for many reasons. I think she has a better chance of getting off now. eek.

[@JanyMatson]

Peter I listen to you where my grandkids can hear you, and I thank you so much for using clean language!!! That keeps me coming back, thank you again😊

[@luciaiorio220]

Thank-you for saying...you all knew it was a conflict...I was just posting on another channel this morning and said I'm not a lawyer and EVEN I knew it was a conflict last year!!!!!....

[@amandalouise3597]

I have never understood why Donna would hire a lawyer who just lost, badly, 0/1.

[@Malsperanza]

Because she was trying not to ruin Charlie's chances of an appeal. So she had to go with his explanation of the crime. Now that he has signaled that he won't support her with his testimony, because of his own appeal, she is free to come up with a different defense. Probably it will now be, "Charlie did everything. I trusted him and wrote the checks, but I had no idea what was going on. I am so deeply sorry for the Markel family and what Charlie did to them."

[@anitagendler3812]

Thank you Peter! There’s never a dull moment with these evil people! 😢

[@Pimpernella]

Wendi's decission to change her son's last names from Markel to Adelson has turned out to be another big mistake. As the name is constantly all over the news and attached to a family of murderers. I really feel sorry for these boys.

[@KatenJace]

Same. I hope they’ve dug deeper than surface and the narrative they’ve been force fed. It’s sad bc it’s going to cause a very broken and clunky story in their lives.

[@happygolucky7020]

Indeed that name had a big stain on it.

[@rebelduck9077]

Those poor boys. They need a better family and not one embroiled in schemes, murders, toxicity. I hope one day the Markel family gets custody of them so they can grow up healthy and not as traumatized

[@ladystardust111]

She should be charged for the mental and emotional abuse she's inflicted upon them their entire lives

[@hayleabrianne]

They’ll probably change it back to Markel once they grow up and come to the realization of what really happened to their dad (if they haven’t already).

[@KristenGeorge]

I think reality has sunk in for Charlie and he is no longer willing to do anything that may hurt his appeal and possible second trial

[@wensday21]

Agreed. Now that Charlie is someone's prison shower toy, he's throwing his mum under the bus

[@Jpfinn3408]

He was found guilty w his silly extortion nonense and won’t win any appeal. He must be deluded to think he will be a free man.

[@Malsperanza]

@@Jpfinn3408 He might as well try until his money runs out.

[@edu456]

Wendi and his mom turned on Charlie. He should come clean in exchange for a shorter sentence, if the State would do it, just tell all. It's very unlikely he'll get a new trial, never mind a not guilty.

[@KristenGeorge]

@@edu456 oddly I’m not convinced Wendi was in on this … Donna bosses her around so much; part of me thinks this was Donna’s plan - Charlie wanted to be “big guy on campus” and Donna couldn’t stand not getting her way … I also feel Wendi is just smarter and would never do something so stupid nor cruel to her boys father ( however the grandparents having to fight to see the boys paints another picture ) what a senseless tragic situation. Dan gone. His family shattered. Adelson’s had all most could ever ask for and now look at them ..

[@lifewith9cats153]

Why should Charlie protect anyone in his family now? His mom was attempting to flee the country after he was sentenced to a life sentence. She didn't care about him ever. Charlie didn't care enough about Wendi to want Dan Markel dead. This was orchestrated by his mom and probably Wendi. Yet, he's the only one serving time now in a SD prison with no family contact and little to no hope for freedom...ever! I hope he grows a backbone and gives evidence against everyone responsible.

[@debbieaustin7072]

Exactly 💯

[@YIKESMF]

Right? He's definitely got a few reasons to be salty.

[@rebelduck9077]

Nah, he’s a mamas boy. He’s not going to let them fall.

[@Great_Kate]

He’d have to admit knowing more about the conspiracy and I don’t think Charlie’s ego will ever admit any involvement.

[@Malsperanza]

@@rebelduck9077 He just did by refusing to give a waiver.

[@michellededmon6711]

So glad to see Georgia Cappleman is still the prosecutor!

[@YIKESMF]

I love her snark!

[@specialkl4792]

Judge should have seen this coming when it was first brought up and denied it PERIOD!!!!

[@u.synlig]

Denied what?

[@9babyblu]

​@@u.synlig allowung the conflict of interest being waved in the 1st place (by only half the party)

[@u.synlig]

@@9babyblu "Denied" _what?_

[@9babyblu]

@@u.synlig What do you not understand? DR is both, Charlie and Donna's lawyer. That's a conflict. That conflict has been waived by Donna but NOT by Charlie like DR said he had waived. Judge should have denied the waiver request. I'm not fully finished this video so I don't know what, if anything, has been denied at this point but that's what's they're talking about.

[@u.synlig]

@@9babyblu From your comment, it is clear that _you_ do not understand. Why, then, are you replying for the OP? (Is that one of your alternate accounts?)

[@RobinMcCollester]

"TAKE-BACKSIES" I love learning legal terminology!

[@deadangel2211]

I think Donna is an uber control freak, she cries bc she she isn't getting her way and likely will never get her way again.

[@PEBBLEZ21]

I think Wendi runs em all!

[@brichter6630]

I watched this whole thing unfold yesterday, but I couldn’t wait for you to do a video to help me understand it all! As always, I am so grateful to you, Peter, for breaking down exactly what happened! You are the best! Thank you!

[@KatenJace]

I do same. 😂 I have so much fly over my head until I listen to Peter break it down. He should really be a teacher but I love that he makes this lofty difficult stuff broken down and understandable for us watching! ❤

[@Jennifermcintyre]

Rashbaum was Donna’s attorney FIRST… since 2016 and ended up moving over to defend her coconspirator Charlie… so for her to lose her precious Rashy because Charlie made this decision (which had strategic benefits for multiple reasons) is even more crazy. Rash is conflicted to the nth degree.

[@KatenJace]

Hm this is actually a really good point. Except I wonder if it’s the fact that Charlie’s case preceded donnas so technically he’s represented the son first. You’re right tho. He’s been enmeshed with Momma Donna Gotti since circa 2016. He’s gotten rich off this family and that’s clouded his judgment. It’s an addicting famous case and he is sucked in. Plain and simple. But for those reasons he’s not at all objective any longer. Any clue why Charlie would pull this last min if you think he did? That’s the part I don’t get.

[@HappyGrouch]

*The lawyer did a podcast months ago and said Charlie waived!! Then broke down what it means to waive the rights etc. then gave a detailed explanation why it was important for him to represent his mother and Charlie wanting him to take the case. This all seems… “Adelish” lol i don't trust anything about these people*

[@jennypham3998]

Charlie grown up in a year

[@YIKESMF]

​@@jennypham3998 imprisonment can do that. Sometimes. Lol

[@badger313]

"Adelish"... brilliant! I agree. These people are all so smarmy & I do not trust a thing they do or say & I feel like Rashbaum has allowed himself to get too close to the situation & has gotten swept up in the Adelson mess & tainted by getting too attached to Donna. He's said he sees her as a mother figure. This is just poor lawyering & should never have gotten to this point

[@Jpfinn3408]

No signed written waiver. Just a verbal one. Rashy should have known better & if he didn’t he needs to go back n watch Judge Judy 🤣🤣

[@Malsperanza]

@@Jpfinn3408 And the DA should have demanded to see the waiver in writing too. A huge waste of her time.

[@thefarmerswifeknits6190]

You should hear the hot mic exchange between Rashbaum and Georgia. Rashbaum says he concerned about the bar….. you think??

[@VirginiaGeorge]

I would think this is sanction-worthy. He knew this was an issue and should have foreseen it long ago.

[@Cosmickitten2012]

@43 Seconds in regard to fee's even if the case moves to the Netherlands, you can bet your bottom dollar that Rashbaum had her "sign" that waiver and yet did not get a signature from Charlie on his waiver. And did he or did he not tell Donna he did NOT get a waiver signed, ergo his firm pays the fees. If that's the case does he face losing his job at his own firm? What a mess. And the new "lead" council still can't question Charlie. There's that whole mess on the upcoming trial. He has to go as well. New lawyers are needed all the way if I understand what is being said here. This is a holy mess.

[@sngray11]

Thank you Peter for keeping us updated on this case! 💗 Dan’s parents must be heartbroken because I am sure that they had flown down to FL from Canada to seek justice for their son during this trial, but hopefully everything gets sorted to ensure that Donna gets a fair trial. Thanks again Peter for breaking this down from a legal perspective. I always learn something new from your videos and livestreams.

[@supremlyfoxylass]

Ruth Markel hadn’t left Canada yet and was flying tomorrow with Danny’s sister Shelly. Phil Markel lives in California and was already on a flight to Florida when the judge made his decisions

[@sngray11]

@@supremlyfoxylass Thank you for the update on Dan’s family. 💗

[@ashleyd2145]

I always thought I was a smart person, but I do have trouble following what the lawyers and judge are saying. thank you to Peter and the LYK crew for helping make these cases and the judicial process easier to understand 😁🎉

[@sherrym921]

I watched this today and was hoping you’d cover it. I watched the hearing and on STS. Such a sickening feeling for the Markel family.

[@LeaSedd]

I did the same. Watched it on STS then here

[@susanphillips-t4z]

I think appeal attorney for Charlie advised him not to testify

[@Malsperanza]

For sure. But he could have been subpoena'd.

[@MM-qp4pd]

Can't we get Wendy Fibbers Adelson in the meantime? Justice delayed 😭

[@supremlyfoxylass]

Can’t arrest Wendi because the prosecutor needs her to testify against Donna and keep the link in tack.

[@EffSharp]

@@supremlyfoxylassI’m not sure they really do need her. But clearly they believe they do.

[@EffSharp]

But also: “Fibbers” = hilarious

[@YIKESMF]

Fibbers. Love it😂😂😂😂 RIP Danny!!!

[@EffSharp]

Bottom line: the moment Charlie was put on the witness list Rashbaum should have been removed from this case.

[@u.synlig]

Rather: Rashbaum should have _withdrawn himself_ from the case, *knowing that he had not obtained a specific waiver from his former client, to conduct a cross-examination.*

[@YIKESMF]

​@u.synlig according to a prior comment, Rashbaum did a podcast interview stating Charlie had waived. Is he being dishonest ?

[@debbieaustin7072]

@@EffSharp yep and sharpish

[@EffSharp]

@@u.synlig a waiver means nothing once Charlie was placed on the witness list. Once he became a witness rash should have withdrawn whether on his own or by order of the court.

[@EffSharp]

@@YIKESMF Charlie did waive. Then he changed his mind. Thats the problem with this type of representation and it’s the reason lawyers know not to do it.

[@colleenhanna5383]

Peter your definitely the most engaging and interesting lawyer on ytube In my opinion 😊 i learn so much from you its much appreciated ☺️

[@joejoe9435]

Crushing

[@Pray4USA]

So great to hear you again today Peter! God Bless your family!

[@KimK-cd3oe]

I’ve been obsessed with this case for a year; following everyone on KZbin and just found you. Your commentary and use of the demonstrative was exemplary. You missed nothing 🤩

[@ConchShell99]

You and EDB’s reactions to trials & lawyers’ words & filings make me LOL! 💚 found your channel from EDB. Ty

[@Jacksonsperfectpirouette]

Tears from Donna when her son in law was murdered=0 Tears from Donna when her son was arrestee and put in jail for life=0 Tears from Donna losing Rashy=1,000,000 Tears of joy from all of us when Wendi gets arrested =unlimited🤣🤣 Justice for Dan Markel and peace for his loved ones.

[@childtimematters513]

Remember, the Adelson family is full of actors. Boo Hoo. This is a ploy. 10/15 is ridiculous!

[@ladystardust111]

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@Wulfe156]

Rewatch Crew here. Loved this Peter, and all your input. It's going to be an interesting one to watch! 👍

[@Ladyshore]

I like your take on this. Basically it is what Carl Steinbeck has been saying since day uno. It’s a disgrace and a shame. Prayers going up for Markel’s.

[@MMC1984]

Can we get some Donna jail calls please 😅

[@MMC1984]

@@Katherinedawn25 perfect 🤩

[@tmhamer3086]

Imagine what the calls were about tonight!! 😳😬

[@9babyblu]

​@@Katherinedawn25 So damn spot on! 😂😅😂😅

[@Jennifermcintyre]

Donna’s losing it tonight. According to her call logs Donna was calling Rash 6-10 times a day … and she and Rash can no longer speak again.. ethically and practically.

[@YIKESMF]

I don't think the calls can come out until the trial is over?

[@Debthouse]

This is unprofessional and Rashbaum should have done his due diligence from the onset. Since when do lawyers rely on their feelings over tangible concrete evidence (i.e. a signed waiver)?

[@lauraenuco7219]

Donna’s tears were possibly from the fears that her only hope was to get off on appeal…and that now Rashbaum could be called as a witness regarding flight.

[@Franciscasieri]

That was the plan all along...the maestro fucked up

[@aday1637]

So Rashbaum is the lawyer we won't see again.

[@100Mickl]

He should lose his license he was playing games and cost everyone’s time money and inconvenience to court jurors etc

[@SimplyLolly]

I was under the impression from Tim Jansen (during the STS live) that Rashbaum CAN be asked about the whole "fleeing" to Vietnam thing now as it wasn’t an atty/client convo, he was still only CA atty & not repping her at that time. Now that he’s not DA atty (& it wasn’t said during), it opens him up to being asked about it.🤷🏼‍♀️ (and I hope he is as I’d LOVE to see what he says since it’s recorded😏)

[@luckymillion47]

Off Topic: Peter can you find time to dive into the Carly Gregg trial. I know you’re busy but maybe others are interested 😊

[@mystic7275]

I'm watching it. Hope he covers it.

[@9babyblu]

​@@mystic7275 Im trying to catch up on it. Saw a backatory of the case but now just started watching the trial.

[@michele0317]

Mr Peter you are a natural at this streaming gig! A wonderful, informational stream today.

[@lindsayshea]

I know this case in and out. Donna wanted Rash bc she’s extremely close with him. They have a “mother/son relationship” according to both of them. She feels comfortable with him.donna was upset bc she lost Rash and the delay. She definitely DID NOT want to lose Rash or get a delay….

[@BamaCyn]

I think she cried more from losing Rash as her attorney more than Charlie's life sentence to prison. I think Charlie was a pawn for his narcissistic Mom and Wendi. Justice would be Wendi being arrested.

[@Malsperanza]

@@BamaCyn Charlie is hardly a pawn. He found and hired the hitmen. He arranged the hit. He handled the payments. At any time, he could have said, "leave me out of this."

[@BamaCyn]

@@Malsperanza Oh I realize how responsible he is for the murder of Dan. I do believe he has been controlled his whole life by his Mom and sister. I want them all to rot in prison.

[@LilPad303]

I've been waiting for your report on this!!!

[@EffSharp]

I disagree mightily with the statement “it’s common to represent multiple people in the same case” . Nope. Not in criminal cases! I sincerely hope you DONT do that, LYK. Civil is another matter. But no criminal lawyer I know would ever rep two defendants in a murder case. Ever.

[@wernerfoerster3666]

@EffSharp As a former prosecutor and defense attorney I totally agree. In fact, I only find myself agreeing with Pete about 75% of the time

[@johnconstant2278]

Does this mean there is a rift between Charlie and Donna? He took her lawyer away.

[@YIKESMF]

She should have hired him a lawyer that wasn't HERS. 😂

[@carlaredman2693]

@@YIKESMFexactly

[@Malsperanza]

Yes. It means that he is not going to testify for her in a helpful way. He is going to do whatever helps his own appeal. Which does leave her free to totally blame him for everything and testify that he was the mastermind and she knew nothing. They are both now adversaries.

[@Bindlestix309A]

I think Charlie’s appeal will be based on Rashbaum’s “ineffective assistance of counsel” during his trial. So Charlie has lost confidence in Rashbaum, so he let Rashbaum take the fall in this. Charlie also pulled the rug out from under his mother, Donna. Last minute big disruption!

[@wernerfoerster3666]

No, those are two different animals

[@bherylkuebler986]

You're the best at making things understandable for the layperson. Ty.❤

[@terripetre8159]

Did the judge drop the ball by allowing Rashbaum to represent both Charlie and Donna? Was this inevitable? Did the judge forget that Charlie did not waive his right? Help us understand if the buck stops with the judge?

[@davidchico9574]

As a former prosecutor myself, you have hit the hammer on the nail.

[@u.synlig]

The judge did not "forget that Charlie did not waive his right." As Judge Everett said here, *"The only way Mr. Rashbaum's representation could occur, is if both ends of the conflict were waiving."* In presenting his current (conflicting) client to the Court -- to be examined concerning her understanding of the potential conflict, and to speak her waiver under oath (the "colloquy") -- _Rashbaum implied to the Court (and the State) that he had already obtained such a waiver from his previous client (Charles Adelson)._ One doesn't embark upon the new, before settling with the old. The judge _could have_ nannied Mr. Rashbaum (in this, and in _all_ of his other professional duties... why stop here?), and nagged him to show the signed waiver from his client files. But it should not be (and, normally, is not) necessary for a judge to stand on the neck of an experienced, well-compensated licensed lawyer and officer-of-the-court, to see that he fulfills the most basic of his professional responsibilities.

[@YIKESMF]

The judge really can't do anything about it. The Chumleys also demanded to share counsel. The judge CONTINUALLY asked the defendants if they were aware of issues that arise by co defendants sharing counsel. I am not sure, but the judge can't make that decision for anyone.

[@YIKESMF]

​@@u.synligagreed

[@jtodt23]

Dang, just tuned in and am going to pause, get a hot drink, settle in and pay attention. Thanks for this!

[@johngorham]

Isn’t it true that even if a written waiver existed, that Charlie at almost anytime, could’ve changed his mind and decided to invoke his rights to not testify?

[@mortalclown3812]

Yes.

[@YIKESMF]

Yep. It's always up for changing.

[@Malsperanza]

Yes, but the fact that there wasn't a signed waiver should have been a giant red flag and the judge should have been told.

[@Globelle]

Yes

[@robinhames5785]

He’s definitely guilty of doing this but the judge should have caught it. It allowed this weasel to cause turmoils and financial stress for so many people. Even his own client will be financially reprimanded for it, and he clearly doesn’t care.

[@u.synlig]

The judge "should have caught it?" Rashbaum made representations to the court that his duty to a client _outside the court_ was covered.

[@luckymillion47]

Watching on replay and anxious to hear what you think🌸

[@patriciaseybold7396]

It’s my first time on your channel, and I love it! 😁

[@lly8598]

Rashbaum may have believed Charlie was going to waive the conflict, but Rashbaum must have had many sleepless nights about it. A House of cards always falls.

[@PeppermintPJ90025]

Please put the blame on Wendy Please put the blame on Wendy Please put the blame on Wendy Please put the blame on Wendy

[@jennypham3998]

And...

[@PeppermintPJ90025]

@@jennypham3998 And arrest and prosecute her.

[@BuffyLynn]

@@PeppermintPJ90025 M’kay… I put the blame on Wendy!! 🙄😒

[@YIKESMF]

They all equally deserve the blame. Any one of them could have called it off realizing how ridiculous they are.

[@KristenGeorge]

Maybe she cried bc she thought Charlie would help her bc her lawyer would ask specific questions that only he would know … so is she crying bc her son may have just decided not helping her …

[@jennypham3998]

Or she s crying because she has to sit in jail longe

[@donnalambert7674]

Losing her “support dog”

[@Nettysgirl_mi]

She's crying for 99 problems and Dan Markel ain't one (sadly)

[@jakemiller4411]

I’m baffled this had to wait until the trial was about to start

[@Missyrocks53]

Very helpful explanation. The whole situation with conflict makes no sense. How would a judge allow it if they can rescind the waiver at any time? The State can incur the expense and be halfway through a trial and then the waiver is rescinded in writing? Crazy. Also, how is Morris not tainted from this? How can he proceed? Isn’t it fraught with issues for an appeal?

[@ksk7102]

It was Donna's plan from the beginning, but Rashbaum ran away before he could be sacrificed for Donna. By retaining Charlie's lawyer as her own, Donna reduced the risk that Charlie would turn against her. Charlie has the option of selling out Donna and/or Wendy to reduce his prison years if the appeal fails. If Rashbaum stayed on as Donna's lawyer and Donna gets convicted, she would have appealed, arguing that her constitutional rights were violated because incompetent counsel did not properly advise her or misled her about conflict of interest issues. If that fails, she might finally turn against Wendi.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

What’s even crazier… Rash was actually Donna’s Attorney long before he was Charlie’s… since 2016 so Charlie/Rash was technically conflicted from the beginning. Two coconspirators swapping an attorney.. what could possibly go wrong??

[@Moonlightdance58]

I was really hoping that you would cover these events that happened today!

[@normamimosa5991]

They did discuss this conflict in the court room before.

[@tracyburns2524]

Great episode! Thanks for your insights!

[@Underacactus]

All I can think of is that goofy 80’s song “Der Kommissar” by Falco 😂

[@c.stavridis8420]

😂

[@foxymama9203]

😂😂

[@kalve8497]

Dang it! I was just thinking this afternoon that I was excited about trial starting soon.

[@GavynGageHudsynGentry]

Question? Wasn’t Rashbaum Harvey and Donna’s lawyer at the start? And when Charlie was arrested he switched to him? Could Charlie be trying to use that on his appeal?! Maybe they didn’t do waivers then either?! This is wierd. I just swear I remember hearing he was theirs and then switched to Charlie. So technically this be 3rd switch if I remember right

[@MsK_1111]

Yes i heard that too

[@rick-grim]

Wendi did testify under oath that she met Rashbaum in 2016 after Sigfredo was arrested for Dan Markel shooting. He was meeting Donna & Harvey if I remember correctly (so you are indeed correct). Why Wendi was there is a mystery to me.

[@juliefraser8136]

Thank you for the running translation. You make things much more clear.

[@KristenGeorge]

Wow thanks ! Didn’t watch today ! You’re the best Petah and the LYK watchers !!

[@donnadoering1010]

This is insane! How was he allowed to kick this can so far down the road? Feel for the victim’s family because this has to cause a delay.

[@musicismagic3001]

Charlie could have rescinded his consent at any time, even during the trial as Peter said. DR, the “sophisticated attorney from Miami” as the Adelson’s condescended to Tallahassee people, has a lot of egg on his face since he can’t produce any signed waiver…ever!

[@playtowin6803]

Thanks!

[@akemi3517]

I have never been happier getting a guilty verdict. This has been so long drawn out and it's about time she gets her punishment. I just wish the cameras were pointing to her face on when they read the guilty verdict. Juror #3 when he shouted YES after being asked "is this your verdict?" Im glad the jury felt the same

[@NerdyDogMom1]

When the one lawyer mentioned that Charlie was concerned if the one lawyer looked at his phone wouldn’t that be sharing something they should not be sharing??

[@michelledunne8990]

Watching on catch up its absolutely fascinating to me

[@bonnie_gail]

Fascinating

[@hollydalsing4495]

The Carly Gregg trial is so fascinating!! Would love your take!

[@BeachLover64]

I like listening to your videos but please know there is always a HUGE Disparity between the Volume between the Court Volume & your Voice Volume. I turn TV up to hear the court then you come blasting on. Is there a better way to modulate this? I hate to complain but it is very noticeable.

[@EllEss331]

I wear a headset. It's a ummm...a dramatic difference.

[@YIKESMF]

I'm listening right now on my ear buds and it's not a big deal.

[@AuntDo]

I bet Mama Adelson is not happy with son Charlie for losing her attorney and the delay in her trial! She may turn on him!! But then, if he gets wind of that, he may turn on her. Mama was pretty unhappy with Wendi also distancing herself from the rest of the family, so who knows who she might turn on to possibly get a plea deal.

[@lisamcclendon2720]

They said the reason there's no signed waiver. It was a jail/prison issue. There was issues with being able to get into the prison to have him sign in person.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

That sounds like a weak excuse. Maybe they didn’t want to go all the way to South Dakota where he’s located now or to Tallahassee from Miami but inmates have the right to meet with counsel. Think they are just trying to cover their major issues.

[@michelleceleste3509]

I just rewatched the STS interview with Joel and Dan Rashbaum. Dan Rashbaum says he had written waivers and his clients had spoken to independent counsel. I don't thinkRashbaum said the same thing in court....not good in my opinion.

[@CatMomAmanda]

7:00 oh my GOSH!!! How cool! Would love to hear more about the mom who was a juror in the Daybell trial!

[@lindsayshea]

Now we all know why Charlie was smirking in his new mugshot.

[@Jennifermcintyre]

It all makes sense now.. dupers delight. Charlie ended up being the one with the most power and forced an entire trial to be punted 🤦‍♀️

[@barleyhops38]

YES! I said the same thing when he repeated what Georgia said as to "stay tuned". Donna may flip just upticked!!!!!!!!!!!!! He stated best for Charlie (only appelate issues) and Donna flips, which doesn't affect Charlie but does Wendy?

[@brendamacias5458]

Incompetence in the Courtroom. Deliberate incompetence on the Defense. The conflict was palpable all along.

[@lauriemadsen3786]

I feel Donna and Dan's relationship was to close. Dan should have never taken Donna's case period. Dan knew he didn't have Charlie's waiver SIGNED and perhaps was hoping it wouldn't come up

[@KatenJace]

Right. And I think he might have started getting too big for his britches and thinks he’s above the regular rules and sanctions of lawyers. Kinda fat cat celebrity after being employed by and enmeshed with this family since 2016. I keep saying this but Donna is in for one rude awakening when Dan R doesn’t take her calls now that she’s not financing his life. Also wonder if Rashbaum is privy to any knowledge of other criminal activity by this family-if he’s run the risk that he might ever find himself in the hot seat being questioned by Georgia.

[@gmac9766]

How many combined years of schooling did it take for all of the lawyers and the judge in the room for none of them to figure out this would be a problem. CA was convicted less than a yr ago - so his appeal is apparent. I am surprised he is not being called in the initial case, only for rebuttal. This case should have started with the waivers of both parties.

[@Mimi-w5f5u]

I still can’t believe she killed her son in law, father of her grandchildren! Horrible woman, with a horrible daughter and son! Disgusting murderers!

[@frankmutz7929]

I’m in HVAC. Over my 51 years in this industry, I have been a part of some major screw ups. Every profession has them. The only thing to do is what this court is doing. Make it right and move on.

[@sandygrogg1203]

Peter, Rajon knew exactly what he was doing. He said out loud on surviving the survivor, that everyone had signed waivers, including Charlie. He knew that Charlie had not signed the waiver and had always known. But he said out loud in front of God, and everybody that Charlie had signed a waiver, knowing he had not. Go back and look at the hearing, and see how happy mom was to be off the case. He was smiling all over the place, and had a definite bounced to his step. He wanted out.

[@vanelaguereja]

Sarah Boone for sure, please keep us updated

[@aday1637]

Donna to Harvey: 'Get me out of here'.

[@chucknowakowski6676]

How do lawyers and judges assume anything in a court case, where commas are fought over

[@stephaniegillespie9738]

I’ve been following the Carly Gregg case (14 year old who killed her mom and shot her stepfather). I’d love to hear your thoughts on that one!

[@jasonryals2560]

Love your work and breakdown of cases ❤ my oldest son birthday is October 16 too

[@Blcastillo74]

I haven’t watched the trial, but I know the case. I know Wendy has something to do with this. They did all of this for their precious Wendy and look at the loyalty she has shown for them. If Wendy gets away scott free justice truly hasn’t been served.

[@CityBohoGirl]

How can almost 28k people view this and only 4k like it. Cmon people, we can do better

[@jennypham3998]

Because we need someone to remind us. Just liked

[@CityBohoGirl]

@@jennypham3998 🫶🙏

[@ellenthom34]

I see this across all my faves. Usually 10-15'% will hit like. I think this is so selfish. I hit like when I go in because above all I appreciate how much work they do

[@luckymillion47]

I think her attorney should get paid. He did a lot preparing her for trial. I agree with Peter about attorney fees.

[@caroline-brisbane8577]

Consequences. She insisted on having him, so ........

[@luckymillion47]

@@caroline-brisbane8577 👍🏻