LazerPig: How To Kill A God Reaction

[@dulmater]

Schrödinger's Trump

[@stevenchoza6391]

No one took Trump seriously because he openly favored Putin and wanted to emulate his leadership. Those warnings were token, at best, something to keep the hawks in his administration (ie the John Boltons of said administration) placated.

[@stevenchoza6391]

Also I recommend Sarcasmitron’s series as well. It does a good job at attempting to tackle the issue of Putin’s motives.

[@sandythethird2292]

Yeh, I don't think he's saying that Trump was colluding with Russia, as u say that's pretty well disproven, he's more likely referring to Russia supporting Trump on their own as something of a figure that would cause a lot of disruption to the US if he took office. Kinda like how Germany sent Lenin back into Russia because they thought he would destabilize the country.

[@homesteadlegion4419]

Eh not Really, the pig makes the point that trump is the useful idiot for putin in the way he earlier talked about the dictators the U.S. put in power because they happened to work in the way the U.S. Wanted at that time (at least in the general economics). Trump isnt a russian agent, he doesnt take orders from putin the way people think a puppet works and he says and does stuff putin doesnt like, but his policies are weakening american influence around the world which just happens to be something putin wants and that is why he supported him and will probably do it again. That is at least my conclusion from it if you see it in the context of the full video. But well i am also heavily biased so 🤷‍♂️

[@EXRazeBurn]

27:35 For the record, context tends to be important. The REASON the Germans laughed Trump out of the room (and rightfully so) was that his "warning" came on the heels of several speeches actively PRAISING Putin's leadership policies and several attempts to establish stronger trade relations with this "threat". In German culture, NOTHING is more pathetic/funny than hypocricy. And Trump's open GAUL in this field (and the blinders his supporters wear in regards to his behavior) epitomize this. He is a walking joke to Germany. That day was only special in that the brazzeness of this contradictory foreign policy push causedthem to break decorum and drop the veil. Also if you have a citation for that anecdote about Obama promising consessions to Putins after the 2012 election I'd love to hear it because I have NEVER heard that one before.

[@Poctyk]

27:01 on March 2014 (i.e. when Russia's annexation of Crimea was unfolding) Obama flew to EU and gave a speech among others which called "To be honest, if we define our -- our interests narrowly, if we applied a coldhearted calculus, we might decide to look the other way. Our economy is not deeply integrated with Ukraine’s. Our people and our homeland face no direct threat from the invasion of Crimea. Our own borders are not threatened by Russia’s annexation. But that kind of casual indifference would ignore the lessons that are written in the cemeteries of this continent. It would allow the old way of doing things to regain a foothold in this young century. And that message would be heard, not just in Europe, but in Asia and the Americas, in Africa and the Middle East. And the consequences that would arise from complacency are not abstractions. The impacts that they have on the lives of real people, men and women just like us, have to enter into our imaginations." I think after that, every year until the end of his term Obama very loudly called for EU countries (read France+Germany+UK, as everyone east of Elbe saw the writing on the wall and began buying arms) to up their commitment Also, before Trump, every (well technically except Bush senior) US president and RF president went through this arc, where they started trying to reset relations with Russia and ended with some crisis that absolutely soured relations. Be it Yugoslav wars for Clinton, Georgian war for Bush 2, or Crimea for Obama. EDIT: 30:00 why not have it at home Well for Russian state it's the same reason why many petrostates have massive investments abroad -- it's a smart thing to do. There are only so many things you can invest in at home, compared to the sheer scale of cash raining upon you. While it is true that Russian infrastructure needs a few trillions. Russian state literally never cared about its people except as a resource.

[@Shiftinggers]

I love how the right-wing in the U.S. is trying to paint the 2014 Euromaidan protests as a CIA-backed coup when Yanukovych was never ousted from his office by a military or anything. He just bitched out of Ukraine during the night and refused to come back to the country despite being President. The Rada(the Ukrainian Parliament) was then like: "Aight, you won't come to the country that elected you to be president to BE the president? You're out"

[@jerrymacctheukrainanlorema7659]

54:25 Chomsky is not controversial in linguistics. He’s the most influential and celebrated linguist in 20th century, and very deservedly so, and a good half of modern day studies in the field of linguistics are based on insights he developed. This makes his completely awful careed as a professional political loon even more frustrating for any linguistics person.

[@wyrmofvt]

1:10:42 The phone call is not a smoking gun. Just because you're talking about installing certain people in positions, doesn't mean that this would become a serious plan. If you could secure documents that showed that these plans were put into action, then it would be a smoking gun, but a phone call in and of itself is just a phone call. Because these phone calls aren't unique. The CIA talks about all sorts of scenarios, and what they would do under those circumstances if given the green light. That green light would be the smoking gun. The Papa John's thing was a genuine side-channel attack. The problem is that it's very circumstantial. You can't generalize that principle to _all_ Papa John's pizza joints, in that every time you see any Papa John's pizza joint get a spike in traffic, then the CIA is involved. They also don't tell you what the CIA plans to do, just that they're working harder than usual. Neither of these things tells you on their own that the CIA is up to anything specific, or had any plan laid out and were acting on. You would have to either had assumed or found out through other means that the CIA was doing that specific thing. That's Lazerpig's point - that the connections are spurious and non-informative. They only mean something if you already know what the CIA plans to do. If you go in expecting the CIA to be doing something, you'll find a connection every single time. In order for these to be real smoking guns, they have to be something you can single out as something they wouldn't do _unless_ they were setting that plan into motion. Neither example has this feature. 1:19:45 If you're talking about cloud seeding, cloud seeding is not very effective. It can basically only turn high potential for rain into rain. This is because weather systems are really, really big, and it takes a lot of material to alter conditions enough to create a storm where it did not exist before. Now, during Vietnam there was an extensive defoliation campaign, but that's a far different beast. 1:22:38 No, it isn't. Trump is a bear, just like Putin is: uncontrollable. He basically pulled the same stunt on Russia that Putin pulled on the west. Yeah, Russia absolutely manipulated the 2016 election to get Trump into power, but in the end it turned out that Trump wasn't the friend the Russians thought he was, which is part of that 'dictatorships fuck everything up' thesis the Lazerpig is going for. So, yeah, it is a consistent narrative that Russia tried to make Trump their puppet. They just failed. They tried to do the same thing to England, where they also failed.

[@paulmaluga5383]

Regarding the phone call during the Maidan revolution, it is less a smoking gun but more simply contingency planning. When a corporation experiences a hostile takeover, during the process it isn't uncommon to think about what comes next. The old regime was collapsing; a new one needed to be prepared to stand in so that society didn't entirely collapse. The US ambassador was bring asked for her opinion. Frankly, I'd be surprised if these conversations were not being held with basically the ambassadors of every country Ukraine wanted to have good relations with going forward - we just don't have those recordings.

[@stevenchoza6391]

Putin fell for his own con and now Ukraine has suffered for it, and the rest of Eastern Europe is now at risk because of it.

[@EdgyNumber1]

Its what happens when you're a dictator, surrounded by yes men scared of you. They're going to give you the reports and assessments they think you want to hear, rather than what you need to hear.

[@danielsnook7362]

​@@EdgyNumber1exactly that's something we struggle with in America

[@EdgyNumber1]

@@danielsnook7362 WorldCom was a very good example of this. Some Hollywood producers are also like this too - though on further thought many production companies are like a circle-jerk.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

1:39:02 Funny story about that attempt actually, when Sputnik left Scotland they left the gear behind and it was auctioned off, one of the people who bought some of the stuff was Lazerpig and he didn't even know he did it, this also makes him the mic equal to the Ukrainian tractor drivers.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

1:32:36 Trump did say a warning about Russia but as LP said in his Challenger 2 video Trump bascially copied Obama's lines just with so many insults no one took him seriously. Trump himself is verin inconsistant, he kind of just flips and flops on so many things its kind of hard to work him out so he has been pupet to Putin but hes also gone against him and then been useful again hence why my friends and I gave up trying to work him out and turn off the TV when he's on.

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

1:28:54 Actually Wagner did have a hand in it, they had i'm not sure its still around, it had a department that was set up to stoke people online and they started with the Gamergates stuff, its partly why it blew up the way it did and why its still around.

[@Syndicalistwallower]

Hey dulmater. I wanted to say that despite often being on the opposite side of the political spectrum to you from all I've seen of your channel, i really appreciate how you have a level headed approach to videos you react to and have a good time even if you disagree with the video. Keep up the good work man.

[@EdgyNumber1]

Putin 💩 the bed and now he can't get out of it. Effectively - 'win' or lose - he's made himself a dead man, walking.

[@shockwavegaming5907]

I keep forgetting my buddy falcon does videos with LazerPig and streams with him on this stuff

[@joshthomasmoorenew]

9:55 Just wish to point out Thebes beat Sparta, look up the Sacred Band.

[@ripLunarBirdCLH]

Sparta was defeated because of the same problem that's beating down The West right now. In Sparta it was too much slaves. Meaning Spartans could never fight a war with entire army because then slaves in Sparta would revolt. The West has the same problem with agressive imigrants. Only unlike Sparta, the West is allowing immigrants to run amok without doing anything about it.

[@iafnn]

you really should watch sarcasmitron's series (referenced in the video) - it is far more consistent and goes over all of the aspects of ukraine-russia situation over past few decades, all misconceptions that you can find about it and usa's involvement in it

[@pierocaramelli1493]

I dont think Lazerpig thinks Trump is Putin’s puppet, but I do think Lazerpig thinks Putin thinks that Trump is his puppet.

[@huntre111]

Ok, so first thing I'm glad to see that you're not a crazy, 'worship Trump and all his allies' sort of person, given that you've thus far (40 mins in) shown distain for Putin and not defended the idea of the Culture War, but I've got to make a point with your discussion on Cultural Marxism. I'm on the left, so I think I have a pretty decent idea as to what might be causing you confusion. The idea of Marxist Culture (a culture and system of creating art based strongly in the Marxist Critique of modern culture) is *distinct* from the Cultural Marxism conspiracy theory. Marxist Culture is exemplified in a lot of the art movements that emerged from socialist and socialist-influenced societies in the interwar and cold war eras, that being the idea of the empowerment of individuals against existing cultural and societal forces that would minimize specific aspects of themselves, as well as a general unity against 'social betters' that a lot of other Marxist and just generally socialist works talks about. The only difference is that it's general thrust is in art and other things usually considered to be 'common culture' rather than through political or economic vectors that this sort of ideal comes through. Cultural Marxism is the conspiracy theory that the *existence of works with liberal or socialist readings* is somehow a conspiracy to challenge the ruling elite with the ultimate goal to overthrow society. The theory posits that there is a *specific group* attempting to do so with the *express intent* of weakening or overthrowing a society which is poorly disposed to a specific 'other' that is usually placed as the group heading this conspiracy, whether it's LGBT people, Socialists, or even Jews. The reason that it's *always called* a conspiracy theory by people broadly in the center and left rather than being context-dependent is because it's a paper-thin re-branding of the Nazi conspiracy theory of 'cultural bolshevism', which was just nakedly 'the jews are spreading communism so that the aryan race will become weak and can be subjugated. Just wanted to go over this a bit about why cultural marxism is a conspiracy theory when there *are* people who advocate for the ideals that underpin socialism to be included in cultural and counter-cultural works. Hopefully that helps clarify things because *Lazerpig has neither the time nor the topic to discuss Cultural Marxism in depth in this video*. If there are any lingering questions, feel free to poke at me and I'll do my best to answer, if there are implications about how I am a traitor to my nation or how I'm a stupid dum-dum who obviously doesn't know how the world works, feel free to take a nice deep whiff of your lower colon and prepare to be ignored.

[@soorian6493]

Just want to point out that by that since the 90s "Cultural Marxism" almost exclusively refers to the antisemitic conspiracy theory. You're thinking about Marxist Cultural Analysis popularized by the Frankfurt school about how the culture industry supports western hegemony. Completely understandable mistake, but just know if you go around saying "cultural marxism is not a conspiracy theory" people will assume you're an antisemite.

[@dasneko7218]

Pretty sure the male/female divide in politics has to do with "advertisment" or who your side is targeting. Or more accurately who they are not. Historically speaking the right wing has not been concerned with appealing to women where as the left has had a more general approach. This resulted in the left gaining the support of women mostly uncontested while struggling to wrestle men away from the right which are their major focus.

[@dulmater]

I think biology is a major factor here as well. You see single women, especially with children, skew to the left. Married women, especially those with children, skew to the right. Biological need for a support system to help raise children is found in the state instead of a man for left wing women, while right wing women follow the traditional route.

[@dasneko7218]

@@dulmater Alternatively getting married and starting families early is part of conservative culture where as the average woman has more freedom to make their own choices. While biology might play a role, and I think women are actually more predisposed to being conservative because they would want stability when starting a family, it is not required to explain what we see today.

[@JoshSweetvale]

​@@dulmaterWomen aren't cattle.

[@Aokreaper]

They put Dankula on the video! He’s radical but WTF!?! 😂

[@shockwavegaming5907]

Lazerpig is a guy who will run the same point in circles for over an hour until you agree with him just because you're tired of hearing it. I agree with him on a few things, but he tends to go back on himself a lot and make points that contradict his own earlier statements.

[@cynthiaherbst3909]

So he is willing to change his opinion when new evidence comes about...like someone should when it comes to doing extensive research, so what is the problem? Russia Trump collaboration also absolutely did happen fun fact Paul Manafort still has deep connections to Yanukovich and the FSB. Trump was just so narcissistic and a loose cannon that he would go against Putin when he felt it made him look good. Also regarding the continued Clinton bashing easy at it is, it's worth remembering that they have been subject to a 30 year smear campaign by Republicans starting with Newt Gingrich and Dennis Hastert (ladder being a convicted pDf file btw). Factually criticisms of the Clintons are easily available, the conspiracy ones though get more clicks.

[@JoshSweetvale]

At least he's not an extremist. His explainations for weird stuff happening is usually 'people stupid and I know 'cuz I know a guy who let me phone a guy on the ground' Which is a lot more credible than the infinite speculation, bloviation and wank from the 'I am 100% sure bla bla' crowd on Fox.

[@kimmaurer2259]

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_Marxism_conspiracy_theory This is what comes up when you look up cultural Marxism it say it is a far-right conspiracy. But otherwise, I love your videos and your reactions.

[@Shiftinggers]

Well, it IS a conspiracy theory. Because the people involved are in for the grift. Not for ideological reasons. Just look at the BLM founders

[@dulmater]

This article was changed post 2016 election once the right began to criticize cultural Marxism. Prior to that Wikipedia's article actually talked about the original school of thought. upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e1/Screen_grab_of_Cultural_Marxism_articles_on_Wikipedia_and_Metapedia.png Ignore the left side of the picture its from some other website. Its a well known and documented school. Its only a conspiracy theory in so far as it is a theory on how to conspire against what was the powerful traditional western cultural hegemony.