“Lazy” millennials demanding work-life balance | 60 Minutes Australia

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Anyone aged from their mid-20s to early-40s is considered a millennial. While the group is now the largest generation in Australia, it’s also the most heavily criticised. The flak comes mainly from older generations who are quick to complain that millennials are lazy and entitled, especially in the workplace.
Most of them probably couldn’t care less, but as Tom Steinfort reports, many of the millennials’ bosses are not sure how to handle their increasing demands for greater flexibility so they can have the freedom to enjoy acting their age.
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[@aloquicious]

I'm a boomer and I remember being 18 years old, having a job and being able to pay my rent plus buy some groceries with just one week pay. Whatever the reason, overpopulation or currency devaluation, there is a double standard. Its really unfair to ask Millennials to work twice as hard for less.

[@helentaylor7132]

I am also a boomer and my paychecks back then went a lot farther. I was not wealthy back in the late 70s and 80s, but because I always had enough and some left over for repairs, emergencies or pleasure, I felt rich! I make more money now, but it doesn't go far and I am unable to retire because of that. Even working full-time (split between 2 days of commuting and 3 days remote), I would not be able to afford a used car if something happens to my current one. It's not fun or healthy to live with that constant background hum of anxiety. I've done my best, but being a boomer, all I can say is that "I made my bed and now I have to lay in it!" I live somewhat frugally and it bothers me how my millennial daughter, who does well for herself, spends money for things that she sees as necessities that I see as luxuries. I have asked questions on a couple things, to try to understand, but mostly I just keep my mouth shut. It's her life, not mine, and she is doing just fine!

[@fritz6530]

I told my granddaughter that I cooked and washed dishes to pay for school. in 1974. Community college was seven dollars a credit hour.I really can't see how these kids are making it today.

[@polishtheday]

You were one of the lucky ones. In 1973 my rent on a modest one bedroom apartment took half my take home pay. After paying for utilities, groceries and other essentials I had nothing left over for clothing or furniture and walked to the to office save on bus fare. Yes, some that I knew made a decent salary. They were all men. I applaud this generation for standing up to authority and demanding what all workers deserve.

[@lipglosslover83]

Thank you for your support because a lot of other boomers literally live in delusion. No one should be forced to work as you said twice as hard for 1/2 the benefits.

[@User40919]

My mother is a teacher, and after paying all the bills, she'll only have a small amount of money left. The money she's currently making nie would be considered a lot of money, but the cost of living had become unbearably high.

[@TheSilverGate]

It's not laziness, it's knowledge that it's not worth it to just throw your life out of the window for lame wages while the company makes millions.

[@christinamoller5742]

I was about to write something like this but you said it shorter and better.

[@travgiants24]

And in a lot of cases, it's billions.

[@cherylk.2474]

Boomer here in the US, I applaud this trend! Who determined a 40 hour work week is ideal? Not all jobs can be done from home, this is true, but many can. Telecommuting even 2 or 3 days a week can allow a worker to devote more energy to their work because they do not have a lengthy daily commute. The monetary savings can be significant, and the extra time for the employee can be priceless. When we were forced to suddenly telecommute due to Covid,, many of us discovered we were actually more productive at home than the office (fewer silly distractions and interruptions). Since the commute evaporated, I had time to exercise and garden, I have lost 15 lbs, improved my diet by eating my home-grown organic veggies and feel fantastic! All during Covid, management kept re-assuring us we were accomplishing our goals and it was all good! When Covid abated, we started into the office on a hybrid schedule, in which we are allowed to telecommute 1 day a week. This will probably end just before the holidays in Dec. Many of us were aware of the impact the telecommuting had on major cities: businesses didn't renew office space leases because their staff telecommuted, sales of consumer products fell in many fields because people didn't need new tires, new clothes, eating out, etc. The elite and powerful started losing their grip on us. We expected pressure from the more powerful interests to get us back into the office, back onto the pointless commuting treadmill, and back to spending significant amounts of our after tax earnings paying for cars/clothes/services that we needed so we could commute to work to pay for the cars/clothes/services....you get the idea! And that is exactly what happened. Now we get the constant nonsense jingos of "We're better together", "We're all about collaboration" blah blah. My favorite is the "Creative Collisions" which means we bump into each other at the coffee machine and suddenly solve the world's problems, or the elevator conversation which provides crucial information to a co-worker (in a conversation which isn't supposed to happen in an elevator anyways due to the lack of proprietary and confidentiality controls). Many of us are realizing we work days every month to support people who have never worked, will never work. They have children, and collect benefits, but working parents do not have that luxury. Perhaps if we shortened the work week to 32 hours, more people who truly want to work could have jobs and not need to be on benefits, and everyone could have a few extra hours every week with their children and to devote themselves to a healthy lifestyle. I applaud the younger generation! We all want what is best for our children, and I hope they have a better life than I did.

[@weszillich5050]

And still wouldn't be able to buy a house lol, wages where i live have barely gone up in 30 years, meanwhile houses have gone up 7-12 times.

[@alasdairtrain9184]

Wise words, wise words!

[@kortyEdna825]

As an elder millennial, one of the few advantages is having lived through the Great Recession. My advice. Reduce unnecessary expenses, increase your savings by investing in financial markets and do not sell. One thing I know for sure is that diversifying your income can help insulate you from much of the craziness going on in the world.

[@Justinmeyer1000]

The stock market is a way to hedge against inflation. Most notably amidst recession, investors need to understand where and how to allocate funds to hedge against inflation and still make profits.

[@Joebiladen159.]

I concur with your comment, personally I've avoided drawbacks of uncertain times by simply following guidance from a reputable advisor, and have been able to increase my savings by at least 300% since late 2019, just before rona out-break, summing up nearly $1m after subsequent investments to date. I'm semi-retd now, and only work 7.5 hours weekly.

[@Pamela.jess.245]

Impressive can you share more info?

[@Joebiladen159.]

Certainly, there are a handful of experts in the field. I've experimented with a few over the past years, but I've stuck with ‘’AILEEN GERTRUDE TIPPY” for about five years now, and her performance has been consistently impressive.She’s quite known in her field, look-her up.

[@Pamela.jess.245]

Thank you for this tip. It was easy to find your coach. Did my due diligence on her before scheduling a phone call with her. She seems proficient considering her resume.

[@AC-fy7pm]

Millenials are not lazy, they realized that they dont want to work to death ... nor is it required.

[@simonchoi973]

No one wants to work to death but only if they have a choice. While it’s fine for millennials to “demand” the life style they prefer for it’s within their right, they need to be aware of the requirements from job market, which may not be always as accommodating

[@jasleinei744]

But the thing is, especially Gen Z, sometimes they demand things without necessarily putting in the effort first

[@simonchoi973]

@@jasleinei744 that’s very true!

[@MarsMellow84]

Millennials aren't lazy. We're just self aware now.

[@user-cl8zg7gu4j]

Gen X is aware as well. Mid to late boomers are the last generation to not recognize this. Even the youngest boomers recognize this

[@adrianacarranza7811]

Millenials are not lazy, we simply understand the value of our time and health.

[@russell-gt1dy]

Millennials are so dumb, they drive to a gym to get on a treadmill

[@zbridgjpxupzm]

Exactly. I don't want to have back pain at 40 and need a walking cane at 50 from destroying my body by sitting in the office all day.

[@jonharry6293]

But you have no money lol 😂

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Millennials might understand the value of their health, but it is a generation that has no understanding of the value of time. And I'm saying this, politely, I'm not a troll. It has always been the curse of youth, not to apportion a value to time. Millennials are not the first, by any stretch of the imagination. But they are the first generation not to move beyond that lack of awareness by a given age. Time is not a threat, anymore. And the subjective measure of the importance of time has significantly shifted. Of course, these are all generalisations, they're not "the rule". There are plenty of millennials that have gauged the importance of time. But they are a rarer breed than the generations that went before them. I'm gen X, by the way.

[@prihaps]

@@zbridgjpxupzm so many jobs out there that are not office jobs and are back breaking. Dont be naive

[@shannoncarswell]

We’re not lazy, we’re tired of working for nothing and not being able to afford anything that can make our lives a little less miserable.

[@perdify]

ARE U dumb girl, u work if you have no money

[@user-dw1ls3rp1l]

Our distant ancestors worked sun-up to sun-down just to not starve and have shelter. 4-6 hours a day and weekends to yourself was an unthinkable concept back then. We have it pretty good.

[@kiwikrankers]

​@user-dw1ls3rp1l really? I don't think that's actually true. living conditions have certainly improved over the centuries however, for both lower and upper class. What's concerning is the trajectory. We're moving back to a serfdom. The illusion of "getting ahead" for the worker bees is vanishing, and the elite are scrambling to ensure they stay at the top while the plebs work themselves to death

[@princealmighty5391]

​@@user-dw1ls3rp1l not my problem

[@brownpunk1794]

​@@user-dw1ls3rp1lyeah u missed the point

[@ausbare140]

I am a boomer and agree with the work life balance. Work is just a job. To many think work is the most important part of life.

[@gigi9301]

Same here! I took a break from working for a few years after my Mom died and it felt like the Spanish Inquisition when I went to interview for a new job...Hmmm so why is there this gap in your work history? I tried to just say personal and family issues, yet it felt they were digging for more info

[@azaquihelify]

I think whatever you do for 1/3 of your life can't be thought of as just whatever. I can't think of a single job i couldn't take seriously.

[@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit]

is normal to admit lazyness , customisable personalised individualist automated texhnology makes life easy for all biological males

[@SomethingSomethingg]

That professor is absolutely nuts. Honestly, what's the point of even having a house if he thinks that you should only be in 7 hours a day?

[@deboraleggerini5729]

He said you can have it all just not all at once.

[@avradio0b]

As an investment, I'm sure XD

[@EcstaticTeaTime]

I've lived this, sort of, when I worked two full time jobs for over a year. I lived with my parents and the only way they could see me everyday was because my mom, with her early job, drove me to my first job and then to my second and my dad, on swings, picked me up on his way home. Both jobs were on their normal path to and from their jobs. Three days a week I had only four hours of sleep at most and I was not trustworthy to be behind the wheel like that. I don't recommend it for anyone. It starts giving you a personality adjustment and you don't have time for yourself, much less your friends and family.

[@AndrewWearsGlasses]

​@@deboraleggerini5729 you can afford kids when you're young and homeless, sell the kids, buy a house around retirement age, reverse mortgage and retire comfortably when you're dead

[@deboraleggerini5729]

@@AndrewWearsGlasses What an idiotic comment.

[@travisgarrett9398]

I remember hearing a nurse say that she's talked to a thousand people on their death bed and not a single one of them said "Gee, I wish I would've spent more time at the office." In fact the opposite is true, they wish they had spent more time with family.

[@Mububban23]

Yep, watching interviews with 100 year olds saying exactly the same thing definitely helped define my own views in work life balance

[@gauthambabu656]

@@Mububban23 also need to check if they would have lived to 100 years if they hadn't worked so hard or would they have loved a poorer health care when they were a 100 years old ... its all a compromise or balance that humans do not want to accept

[@user-ep3ck5re4o]

Exactly

[@SKU377]

absolutely!!!

[@meredithdarling]

I have spent my adult life on disability with no way to structure my time. I’ve always had ambitious goals but never figured out how to accomplish them. I definitely feel lazy and on my deathbed I will say, “I wish I worked harder.” ✌️

[@idxcredit9210]

The issue is not where you work from. The issue is that most jobs suck and suck the life out of you, and now people are seeing through it.

[@jonsnow6741]

So do something about it and start a business and work about 80 hours a week getting to the point you can employ others and live the dream .

[@ramoncorrea5779]

Seriously?? It's called life...

[@dannur]

@@ramoncorrea5779hate to break it to you but life doesnt have to be always boring and working. People need to find something that makes them happy, and something that drives them. Living life as a minimum wage slave is no way to live

[@jonsnow6741]

@@ramoncorrea5779 Expect a poor as no one will give you a free ride

[@TacoMexxx]

Well, f****ck, I guess motherf***krs are going to stop being lazy when there is no food on the shelves, c'mon guys. Lol

[@TakayasMom]

The guy who was saying people should only be home 7 hours per day to sleep and should be working all the time showed his laziness toward the end. After saying working from home was bad, he said that HE needed to be forced into the office so he didn't go out at night and get drunk. He's assuming everyone is that way. As a Gen X'er, I've worked crazy hours for decades and thanks to the pandemic, now work 100% virtually. I've stopped having anxiety attacks, I moved into management, make low 6 figures, and can now comfortably schedule calls around the world without worrying about getting to the office 30 miles away by 6 to talk to India, or stay late to talk to Manila. Virtual work is awesome.

[@ryanlong820]

I'm 30, and in the last 4 years, I've been laid off from 2 different jobs where I worked my ass off- staying late, going the extra mile, trying to impress my superiors. I've come to the realization that you really are just a number to most employers. No need to sacrifice your life for the company when they can kick you out the door tomorrow.

[@rv6205]

so what are your options ?....how will you ever retire ?

[@Spacenoidx]

@@rv6205 implying

[@walkinmist9818]

I have been called "inefficient" at one work where I worked 11 hours straight with no meal break, breaks for their rush hours. I was so "inefficient" that they wanted me to pick up more hours while they cut my hours instead. I gave up on their company.

[@stephenberry3379]

Amen

[@dougstrable5056]

My father told me his regret in life was not spending enough time with his two children when we were young. Good for the millennials to understand family and experiences are important.

[@extremeresponsibility4325]

This is a great trend for people to make the right choice for themselves. This includes being 100% responsible for their outcomes.

[@jamie6387]

Millennials kids will suffer at their expense, not a bright future for their kids.

[@beau.s8031]

Fuck yeah. Especially when mummy and daddy pay your bills and buy you a new iMac hey? Leeches.

[@jamedmurphy4468]

They are not having Kids. They are narcissistic and totally self centred

[@alfredosoto7179]

Cool. No one goes to their death bed saying, “I wish I would have worked more.”

[@YamiNoPri]

When you see incompetent people being promoted, moronic decisions being made and promises unkept, without any pay raise and longer hours every day, you really lose motivation. I'm silent quitting right now and intend to do so until I find something worth my while

[@edwardl.492]

i feel u..

[@johnkooy5327]

That sounds like you work for the same company i work for😁

[@liquidsnow1]

I feel the same way and i´m 6 years into it ... -i´m sick of incompetent people, morons and complete idiocy ...

[@tryscience]

The good news is, those outmoded business models will eventually fail and be replaced. Work needs to be a win-win. Instead of workers being treated like coal to be shoveled into the furnace

[@msy7906]

Such special people who get Management nad Leadership positions should get cancelled themselves if people leave because of them. There have to be consequences for them that are actually implemented so they respect those people who do the real work.

[@emilyfeagin2673]

I’m a boomer. I remember what the previous generations said about us. We were lazy, entitled, listened to the wrong music and our fashion choices were suspect

[@jeffp7776]

The problem is nobody THINKS or looks at the past. The ENTIRE HIPPE population in the US were BOOMERS and just as you say got crap from everything from music to long hair.

[@AE-sy1pn]

The cycle continues.

[@Dre2Dee2]

The Greatest Generation was right. Boomers fucking suck

[@pumpdump4274]

They weren’t lying. Plus gay too

[@SolidSonicTH]

Your dad never gets it. It's just that simple and complex.

[@paulbetts4984]

In other words, corporations are locked into 30 year space leases and are desperately trying to justify the cost of rent when their workforce could care little about an office space.

[@Luke-nh4gw]

*"Couldn't care less", as in they already care the least so it's impossible to care less. Other than that, I 100% agree with you. It shouldn't be an employee's concern about terrible long term financial decisions a company makes.

[@karenmiddleton3649]

I am a Boomer (1964) and I have to say that I agree with the work-life balance approach. I have been working a 4-day work week for 10 years now and it's made a huge change to the quality of my life, after 25+ years of putting in full-time hours. I had to pay my dues and work my way up the ladder in order to afford this lifestyle. However, I don't see anything wrong with an employee being paid to get the work done, versus having your ass in a chair in your office from 9 to 5 even if you've finished your work for the day hours before quitting time. Obviously there are many career choices were this is not possible, but there are millions of jobs where it is. I say GO MILLENNIALS, CHANGE THE WORLD!

[@dcanes5720]

100% agree

[@Lesie28]

Totally agree❤

[@glennraya]

We will... ♥

[@roychui6694]

Aussies are lazy. Fullstop

[@hotstepper887]

@@Lesie28 As they say, you really can't fix stupid, because hilariously, stupid really believes he's smart!

[@relentless319]

I am Boomer & I 💯 agree with these millennials! After working for several companies/firms & giving extra & my all, I GOT NOTHING but taken advantage of so I decided to do it my way and haven’t looked back! I’m not wealthy but with God’s help I’ve always had at least one car with gas in it, a roof over my head in NICE neighborhoods and food to eat. I’m now nearing retirement and my life will either not change much or get better! I stopped spending between 1.5 to 2 hours commuting years ago. My sibling worked for the same company (commuting approximately 2 hours a day) in their basement (with no windows) and HAD to work EVERY Tuesday of those 20 years even when on vacation or sick for those 20 years! She even had to take a PAY CUT after 10 years and still continued to work for this company. COVID happened and she was unceremoniously & without even a thank you, let go while newer employees were kept to do her job. Working your butt off for others doesn’t always bring success & rarely brings peace!

[@MikeRotch-ur7sx]

Fake news

[@clarifyingquestions]

This is fantastic and a great example of your choice, your life and just as long as you have factored in paying for your elderly self what s not to respect. Often people may choices ie spend more and work less and then complain that they worked their entire life and now they are old and someone else should care for them ie tax payers.

[@swilliams1759]

How is it fake when it's someone sharing their own experience? More like a fake watcher. @@MikeRotch-ur7sx

[@michelledavies2197]

God had nothing to do with it.

[@relentless319]

@@michelledavies2197 I’m sorry you feel that way but if you knew my life story you might be able to see that GOD HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH IT! 💕

[@fairywingsonroses]

As a millennial, I feel like I need to take steps to deliberately focus on something other than the fact that I've worked really hard for over 20 years and still have nothing to show for it. It's depressing to work so hard, have everything be out of reach, and then be called "lazy" because you can't do the impossible. The very least they can give us is a better work-life balance.

[@EnzoIsabella]

Absolutely 💯 truth comment

[@Sally-ih6ls]

You gotta eat, who’s supporting these part time workers.

[@fairywingsonroses]

@@Sally-ih6ls I think the main issue isn't that these people are working part time. The issue is that a lot of good-paying jobs don't offer part-time positions. This forces people who can only work part time for whatever reason (disabilities, maybe they have kids to care for, maybe they're a college student, etc.) to have to work lower-paying jobs when they might have the skills and qualifications to work somewhere better. This is mostly an issue with employers who don't want to have to deal with part-time labor due to having to train more people, the complexity of of offering insurance and benefits to part-time workers, etc. Countries that have created pathways to more lucrative part-time positions have actually seen significant improvements in wages and opportunities for part-time workers.

[@homosexualbiologicalmaleexit]

my father was working hard and he is not rich , we are lied by business capitalists entrepreneurs and advertising

[@NebbieNZ]

I've been called lazy all my life as someone with ADHD I've always struggled with work in a noisy disruptive environment that best suits my manage but suit my needs, I've been forced to adapt to the accept way to work that dose not enough high performance from me then I'm punished for the way I work. Working from home allowed me to set the environment to encourage the best performance, another bonus is increased health. Scott Galloway really got under my nerves essentially saying to me "I've sacrificed alot to be successful so you should too" typical of a boomer wants millennials to suffer the same consequences of their elders its jealousy.

[@lizmackenzie8240]

I am Gen-X. I am sick of hearing that Millenials are lazy. I work more now than I ever have and there is no worklife balance like there used to be. It's not acceptable how the top level in corporations earn absurd amounts of money while everyone else is slaving away for so much less.

[@jelwy7]

Are you a socialist?

[@gerry2345]

@lizmackenzie8240... How long will it take for you to get to the top level... When you get there, remember me.

[@rahulmaron]

you have a choice to leave. instead, you are trying to bite the hand who fed you. greedy and demanding, go make your own company.

[@velveetaslingshot]

​@@rahulmaronBULLSH*T...I have a masters in economics. The data does not lie. Wages are not competitive any more. And every civilization that squeezes the population faces the same inevitable outcome.... "Let them eat cake."

[@zerovalue5106]

@@rahulmaronhow brainwashed are you?

[@TheOnlyZiTRO]

American Millennial here: one thing nobody is mentioning is THE COMMUTE, that's big here in American cities. I used to have an hour's drive to work & an hour back each day, that's 8 hours a week spent in the car, not to mention the stress of traffic, the money wasted on gas, & pollution from exhaust. Once working from home, the chronic pain in my shoulders went away (it was from stress of screaming at idiot drivers in traffic), Saved 2000$ a year in gas money, gained 384 more hours a year spent with my family from not driving to and from work. So to say Millennials are lazy is stupid. Based off the math, Millennials are very smart.

[@madameclark3453]

I work in construction and my drive changes with the project. I work all over Southern California. One hour of traffic one way? I wish.

[@rinowx5]

They call us lazy because we refuse to be exploited for their gains. Those long commutes are horrible and unhealthy for us and our environments.

[@HumptyDumpty-os7ie]

Lol.. If you could only read this text 40 years from now You’ll wonder how on earth your former self could have been so naive

[@HumptyDumpty-os7ie]

Long live the whining generation

[@kehindeemiabata4032]

that's tge same in London, not just America

[@mosespatague1211]

Millenials like me are not lazy. We are just smarter nowadays to think that you don’t have to wait until retirement to enjoy the fruit of your labor. People should have the ability to enjoy life while you are young and able. Yes, millennials should work hard but not to the extent of sacrificing our youth by just merely working. Millennials are keen enough that we should get to play hard too and do the things that we want for us not to have regrets later in our lives.

[@rv6205]

cool....so how do you save for a house and a portfolio to retire on ?

[@CameronFussner]

These are very valuable rules for anybody who wants to get rich. Unfortunately, most people who will watch this video will not really be able to apply the principles. We may not want to admit, but as Warren Buffett once said, investing is like any other profession-- it requires a certain level of expertise. No surprise that some people are losing a lot of money in the bear market, while others are making hundreds of thousands in profit. I just don't know how they do it. I have about $489k now to put in the market.

[@leojack9090]

Although stocks are now rather volatile, you should be okay if you perform the proper calculations. There have been stories of people making over $50,000 in a matter of weeks or months, according to Bloomberg and other finance media, so if you know where to look, I believe there are many wealth transfers during this recession.

[@hasede-lg9hj]

The best course of action if you lack market knowledge is to ask a consultant or investing coach for guidance or assistance. Speaking with a consultant helped me stay afloat in the market and grow my portfolio to about 65% since January, even though I know it sounds obvious or generic. I believe that’s the most effective way to enter the business at the moment.

[@lowcostfresh2266]

@@hasede-lg9hj Could you kindly elaborate on the advisor's background and qualifications?

[@hasede-lg9hj]

The advisor that guides me is Vivian Carol Gioia, most likely the internet is where to find her basic info, just search her name. She's established.

[@parrish8386]

Thanks a lot for this recommendation. I just looked her website up, and I have sent her an email. I hope she gets back to me soon.

[@Vitagirl]

My daughter is a millennial and she graduated from university a very demanding university an incredible workload she just got her first job in a very stressful industry and equally demanding city and she stands up for herself and is defining her life as she wants it to be I am really proud of her she works hard but in a smarter way and is not going to give up quality of life like our generation has!!!This generation is not going to be the taken advantage of!!!

[@vickythefist7062]

My daughter's the same .she works ridiculous hours though . Sick of people saying that young people age 20 to 30 don't work hard . My son works extremely hard also .but neither of them have a family yet .

[@AffluentBlacks]

Exactly. I have a Millenial daughter with a similar story

[@3825cmac]

Use more periods in your sentences.

[@conniehanses]

Both of my children work high stress jobs but companies understand work life balance! They're not allowed to put in overtime hours with their salaried jobs. I think it's great, and wished this concept and awareness was around when I was in the work force..💙🌎 I even had a hard time wrapping my head around this concept! Lol just never even gave that a thought my entire 59 years...😳

[@russell-gt1dy]

Doordash last year alone took 7 billion in revenue from the young generation. 7 billion that they could have invested in their futures.. pissed away on upcharges and delivery fees. No wonder the young people complain they're broke

[@jacksonthedoggy]

Remember, if you die your company will pretend to be sad for a weekend and then post your job on Monday. You’re just a number to them. Your real family is your family ❤

[@danicagerman4164]

Millenials are not lazy. We just don't like to be pressured by some people.

[@michelerotheray3708]

You dont know what pressure is LOL

[@flovv4580]

When I was young, I was poor. But after years of hard work, I am no longer young.

[@kelleemerson9510]

As a boomer, I approve of this trend. Even work in low level jobs a good, smart superior will say work smarter, not harder.

[@robocop581]

So a restaurant server should work from home

[@beatslive]

I agree with you working from home there is a lot of positives . Its the way of the future.

[@davidjma7226]

Yeah, not everyone can work from home. In the digital space it works fine. Try it in hospitality or manufacturing or in certain sales roles etc. Or Government civil service......

[@liongod1000]

@@beatslive *_ Yeah, til you need someone to build your house, install the solar panels, fix the plumbing..... and the list of REAL working people goes on and on! "*

[@orionxtc1119]

Robots will take over very soon and do 24/7 without breaks

[@godzillamothra5983]

I'm a millennial and a small business owner, work 10 hours a day, 7 days a week, only have less than 10 days holiday per year, and yet can hardly afford to buy a nice house or health care. Competition for small business owner like me are fierce. I feel like we are all racing to the bottom.

[@scrapmanindustries]

What do you do and how much do you charge? Business ain’t easy but you can get ahead if you try hard enough.

[@starrjohnson1327]

I saw a big boom in small businesses during 2020. The PPP loans, grants and anxious shoppers helped small businesses. Now in 2023 many of those businesses have closed or changed directions. Even youtubers/influencers lost business.

[@filthyfrankblack4067]

@@scrapmanindustries its not "try harder" thats the key to making a business sucessful anymore. Its "Branding", "Chrisma (soft skills)", and Sometimes just bold face lies that will get your business to sucess. Just look at Thranos, PPP loan scams, or FTX to see what I mean. This guy is probaly working his tail off not knowing white collar chrime and "soft lies" is how businesses walk away with Multi-millions while only paying a few million in fines. Niches work to but at that point your just hoping Mark Cuckerborg of Bill 33-3 Gatez fines your project intersting and buys you out.

[@godzillamothra5983]

@@scrapmanindustries I'm an optician, and live in Indonesia btw. These days my competition mainly came from online shops.

[@dayzpast]

Optical industry is quite saturated, especially since it has a low barrier to entry relatively speaking. You need to focus on the higher end of the market, by providing a superior product combined with good customer service. Combine this with a good marketing / outreach strategy that benefits the end user is a good way forward. More importantly is you need to deliver value not only in monetary means

[@june2420111]

Yes! Millennials stand up together. I had four people leave from my team and only 1 person was replaced while our deliverables significantly increased. Every week I had to skip my lunch, especially because I work remotely and my lunch hours don't align with my team's. I am expected to work weeknights, weekends, I had to cancel vacations. We must stand up together to end this exploitation.

[@kellyelrington5663]

I'm nearly 50 and I also demand WFH for at least 3 days a week so I can be available for my elderly mother, look after my own health and not waste hours travelling to & from the office. I also prefer my own company over working with a group who can be quite disruptive.

[@Anonymous-md2qp]

I’m a millennial who works 70 hours a week, plus the commute to and from work. I hate every second of it. There is no way I would ever have kids and bring them into this horrible society that we have created.

[@henhenderson6594]

What job have you got that you work 70 hours?

[@testicool013]

he is lying @@henhenderson6594

[@halfhawkhalfman]

You guys are being rediculous. Unlike most people who claim (umm..lie) about working 70 hour weeks, I actually did that, and I don't regret it one bit. Do you want to be great or be mediocre at what you do? Nobody becomes great at anything by applying a mediocre effort. Oh..and I raised two happy, healthy kids to adulthood along the way. Find the right life partner, and you can have the career without needing to be all alone, childless and regretful when you're 60.

[@gordongekko2781]

@@halfhawkhalfman That's easier said than done. It's nearly impossible to find a quality life partner now that dating has been replaced with hookup culture.

[@halfhawkhalfman]

@@gordongekko2781You'll eventually learn that that both in the workplace, as in life, if you either think that something cannot be done, or, if you instead decide to think that something CAN be done, you'l be end up being right either way.

[@hairofbullets]

I am absolutely in love with all the folks from the older generations chiming in with their support here. It really touches me. We love you guys!

[@izabelamsztuka7297]

It just shows you how the entire rhetoric of boomers vs millennials is overblown by the media. Most Boomers observe their children and grandchildren's struggles and are perfectly aware of the realities we're facing. They understand that the situation became simply untenable and something needs to change.

[@DotADBX]

Boomers grew up in a time where they really had the freedom to choose what they wanted to do with their lives they could live off minimum wage and still have a good life or they could hustle hard and have it all the difference today is there is no choice you can keep your self just above water working as hard as you can muster and stay in the exact same place since you started or you can give up and live on the streets there is no in-between. Millenials were never lazy we just could never connect excessive hard work with a good life, most boomers working still today and even older genx'ers think we are entitled because we expect better the truth is we just want what they had the opertunity to have and trust me they never had to work this hard to own a home a fucking half decent working car or he'll just a God damn place to rent not 5 hours away from where they work. Millenials are now the most educated individuals on the planet, we work longer hours then any generation before us and have far less to show for it yet we are still some how the problem.

[@robertnewland7115]

I agree with the millennials

[@tonyhickq]

​@@DotADBXworking longer than any generation before? 12-16 hours a day / 6 days a week was normal a few generations ago, so I don't get your point. Can't speak for the US, seems like your working hour is a bit like China wich is quiet suprising as you always think you are so diff. As for the most part in europe the working hours are between 38-45 hours a week and 5-6 weeks paid vacation a year. The young ones struggle here too as everthing got bloody expencive.

[@soulscanner66]

@@jefferygoines LOL. You think this is new? Overwork by employers had been a thing for centuries. The solution isn't new. They're called "unions". They make sure you get a living wage and have the time to enjoy it.

[@DarylSolis]

As a millennial, I say NO to stress and pressure from incompetent managers that treat me like a number. Working hard is not what I am against. I am against companies exploiting me. I will work hard for the right reasons. My priority is enjoying life first. Even if I am broke. As Musashi said ''look for nothing outside of yourself'' to live well and be happy.

[@Sian660]

No one uses that ping pong table for fear of being judged for not working, except the boss. I guarantee it 😂

[@dennynisevic7848]

😂😂😂😂😊😊

[@LaumaBelska]

I have had jobs where the boss says - “ u can take a break and sit down to rest if You need to, noones gonna say anything, dont worry” And then when I did actually sit down to take a break, I would have coworkers coming to check what I was doing, and why I wasnt working - constantly, which made me understand that that phrase was bullshit. Ah, and ofc, my boss did in fact take a break to “rest”, but noone could check what he/she was doing , because its the “boss”.

[@jamiedee36]

As a GenXer, I fully support this trend towards more work life balance. I think the real fight is with employers & companies not keeping up with inflation while the small few make tons of money. It’s gotten totally out of control.

[@velveetaslingshot]

That and information is EVERYWHERE now. We can all see Oz behind the curtain. The game is rigged to keep average people from gaining true wealth. Yes, a handful of people are hyperintelligent enough to create massive wealth out of nothing. But the rest of us are just looking for liveable wages.

[@KT-bg7hf]

GenXer here too, and completely agree.

[@Abyyss33]

@@KT-bg7hf this GenXer concurs with your statement.

[@fukkitful]

House prices are ridiculously overpriced. One thing we all need practice is to stop buying on impulse. We waste so much on useless crap. My mom is extremely bad about order unnecessary item from Amazon. She refused to accept it. Even though my grandma was and one of my Aunts is, Constantly receiving Amazon packages. After my Grandma passed away, while sitting in the hospital. Package still continued to be delivered to my Grandparent's for over a week. I understand she couldn't take the money with her. The issue was my grandpa could have used the money to pay for the new trailer they had purchased very recently. My oldest Aunt stepped in and made a deal. She'll pay for the new trailer in exchange for solely inheriting the 12 acres it sit upon. Also it could have been put back for helping anyone who was enrolling in school to help cover cost or some kind of unexpected change like a sudden death. TL;DR Give any potential purchase a week before you buy. If you still want it than go ahead and buy. You'll reduce impulse buys.

[@marcn5140]

The thing is, are you GenXers worth the pay you are getting every month by the employers with your work efficiency? Companies pay for performance. Company needs to make enough money in order to give you entitled people your paychecks. So i think it's only fair for companies to only pay you based on your performance but the thing is you GenXers demanded for more than what you all deserved, that's delusional and not sustainable for a company. Go be an entrepreneur and start your own company if you all want work life balance and feel what it's like to run an efficient company. See how things turns out for you, if it's all honey cherry blossoms like you think it is

[@marianfrances4959]

I'm retired and don't miss one moment of the grind, dysfunctional workplaces, abuse, negative relations or oppression!

[@focusedfreebird]

amen to everything you said. I agree! Glad to be retired too.

[@beverleyreid7572]

You can say that again.

[@kaze_cat]

Well said! I agree with you 💯! Especially the dysfunctional workplaces and peps, because that = added stress 🤯!

[@mediacenterman8583]

Semi--retired. No more commuting, office politics, micro managers and the normalization of being present even if you are sick.

[@rivelinocartermoinin7490]

Millenials are not lazy but we just want a job/career that balanced between work, leisure, family.

[@xFENRISx]

As a millennial who moved to Canberra for work, I find WFH and flexible hours depend on how people use them. There will always be people who exploit those things which shouldn’t be generalised. Most people are just as productive. And yet for those like myself who prefer to be at the office with my colleagues, working longer hours, I would hope that would translate to affording a deposit on a house, repaying student loans or other basic lifestyle necessities. With inflation so high, my loans actually went backwards despite paying into it from my full time salary. I don’t even have a car. I’m a bit old fashioned but most people I think would expect a system which rewards hard work and responsibility. When that falls down, even the most stubborn traditionalist must ask questions about whether that system could be structured more effectively.

[@angelachouinard4581]

As a boomer retiree I can look back and see how much employers have been like vampires. Wages have always lagged, family leave was non-existent and even though people actually died to get us the 40 hour work week so many spent their work lives working many more. And employers have only gotten worse.

[@moirapettifr7127]

I agree. Employers were the worst bloodsuckers when I was just starting out back in the 70s. My first job truly almost killed me. Things do need to change!

[@russell-gt1dy]

Try being self employed

[@davidbrayshaw3529]

Conditions were atrocious, there's no denying that. But, your pay went a lot further in covering the bare essentials than it does today, that's inarguable. Those "lagging wages" have lagged even further. I'm Gen "X", and I certainly didn't do it easy, or at least that's what I thought until my son left home, seven years ago.

[@kermitfrog593]

@@russell-gt1dy Try addressing the OP's comment.

[@pamelastetor8803]

I'm older and I say speaking up for yourself is good.

[@soulscanner66]

Any older person telling you otherwise wants to take advantage of you.

[@DarkSeas117]

Im 37 and ive never had enough free time or money to take a vacation or afford a home. I work a professional job and dont spend outside my means and drive a car from 2001. Every year I feel like im getting more and more behind no matter what i do. Im not lazy, this world is unaffordable and at this point id prefer and apocalypse over the wage slavery i endure daily as i watch 20 year old fat women travel the world for free

[@javamurniadi6520]

Work life balance: 3.5 days working 3.5 days rest in a week

[@anastasiarose9003]

I am grateful millennials and others are standing up and demanding change. We need it.

[@sandponics]

If they want change, they have to be the change.

[@JohnWarner-lu8rq]

One has to consider that, currently, the age of maturity is 24 to 26, when in the 30's and earlier it was 15 or 16.

[@user-ps1ft1hy4j]

Yup, they're the ones with the energy now, and the longest stretch of future to have to live with. Hopefully they can keep us from careening toward disaster.

[@993mike]

If you want a more relaxed life and more time to spend on things other than work, that’s fine. Just don’t complain about not buying a house, or driving a nicer car, going on elaborate trips, or not having that big TV or the newest cellphone, etc. You have to make your own choices in life and what your priorities are since you can’t have it all unless you’re some trust fund kid.

[@aliciab77]

I'm 46-year-old American. I agree with this 100%. Work-life balance should be a priority. So many companies see you as replaceable & treat you that way far too often! These companies want you to give them 1000% but only give you a paycheck! There should be no sacrifice from anyone, especially with their family & children. In the end, those relationships matter. Every job or career sees their employees as replaceable

[@hawthornandbear3664]

I’m the same age, and I 100% agree.

[@myroom4640]

There’s NO hard and fast rule here !!!! It depends what solely works for the individual. Some want to work 60 plus hours per week, some less. If one can survive on less hours ; then that is THEIR own choice. It’s neither right nor wrong. As long as one is taking their responsibilities seriously , and paying for what needs to be paid for / then I say we should butt out of others personal affairs …………. Some want to climb the corporate ladder , whilst others want to just work to live.

[@myroom4640]

YES I AGREE. 👍👍👍

[@wolfjohnny]

Also agree

[@deathlarsen7502]

Duh bc they are replaceable. You must think you're special

[@travelnomad2128]

I'm 58 & I took myself out of the workforce 2 years ago. I'm quite secure financially but I'm planning to go back to work part time or full time with flexibility to work from home. 9 to 5, 5 days a week work routine for me took a big toll on me mentally & physically. It was depressing & felt like reporting to prison day in day out. And my manager was a warden who expect you to stay in office even if you finished your work early for the day & also very stingy approving days off & vacation. I've been feeling unsatisfied & unhappy for a long time before one day i just decided I've had enough & quit. I did it for my sanity!

[@AE-sy1pn]

You aren't financially comfortable. If so, you wouldn't even think about working.

[@travelnomad2128]

@@AE-sy1pn that's why I said quite. Know your English, fool.

[@Stuie417]

Scott Galloway needs a visit from the three Christmas ghosts. 😂

[@heidimedel]

I broke my back to make others rich for decades and I was miserable. Do I work hard at my job? Absolutely. Will I ever let it take over my life and destroy my mental and physical health again? Hell no.

[@melissachartres3219]

That's terrible! How did it happen?

[@heidimedel]

@@melissachartres3219 I don't mean literally. Although my spine is very broke. But that's from DV and CA.

[@theetruth4267]

@@heidimedel if you’re going to make statements, please spell things out rather than using cryptic abbreviations like DV or CA. It’s not only lazy, but nobody knows what you’re talking about, and you just look crazy. Please keep this in mind going forward. Thank you!

[@heidimedel]

@@theetruth4267 I think I'll stick with doing things in my life the way I want. Thanks.

[@theetruth4267]

@@heidimedel you should be thanking me for pointing this out, not “doubling down” on your idiocy! This only further highlights my premise that everyone today acts like a lazy, entitled, rebellious teeny bopper!

[@markcarey67]

It was the corporations who broke the social contract. They ceased to look out for their workers, started to treat them as expendable, exploitable and replaceable but then still expected the same level of loyalty as older companies where you could work through to retirement at and could support a family and feel like you were making some kind of valuable and valued contribution even in some small way. Work has become an abusive relationship for a lot of younger people.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

Fuckin' A. Hit the nail on the head, home boy. 👍

[@joesterling4299]

What is a contract that can't or won't get enforced? It's merely a list of suggestions. Corporations seek profit. That's what they do. That's what they've always done. Nothing else really matters to them. A social contract imposed on them by a society needs to be enforced by that society, namely the government. That is who failed in their duty.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

@@joesterling4299 That's completely unreasonable. To say a corporation is not responsible for its actions because it's a corporation and should be expected to do shit things is completely out of line. That's a hall pass to be evil. It's like blaming the parents of a teenager who burned down a house without any ramifications for the kid who poured the petrol and lit the match.

[@xAA7]

@@joesterling4299 you can make profit each quarter without being a dick to your employers.

[@kermitfrog593]

Globalization is destroying local economies. It opens the borders to a world wide labour market, forcing workers into a Hunger Games scenario, wear they compete with each other by agreeing to work for less. Ownership laughs all the way to the bank.

[@ronbeaubien]

Look at all of the CEOs who paid too much for office space and are unable to adapt to a change in worldwide work culture, still stuck in their ways, giving outdated opinions without any data to support them. There are quite a few companies using remote workers and are just killing it in the marketplace. Not to mention, many old-style companies are not paying enough for their workers to be able to live close to the office, requiring long commute times. Heck, there is also no way for young people to afford a home these days.

[@tonycollazorappo]

I'm a boomer and I support millennials and their plight to better their personal lives. I wish we had this, our lives were surrounded by adults telling us to work, work, work. Our college education was very cheap, but if I'm asked by kids today if they should go to college in today's world where you are not important anymore in a corporation, I tell them do what you really want to do and live a better life, wink. Back then employees always told you that you were important, not today. There are no bonus and employers don't care about your family needs.

[@leanderrowe2800]

I am a boomer and I support millennials on work-life balance. When my 30 years old single daughter wanted to cut her full time job to 80%, I am all for it. I encourage her to retire early or work part-time when she's financially able to do so, to relax and pursue her interest.

[@genxx2724]

Key element: WHEN SHE’S FINANCIALLY ABLE TO DO SO. Meaning, after she earns it. Not expecting you or taxpayers to hand it to her.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

Except that won't ever happen. You get that right? I'm a Millennial, born in '83. Barely could afford a house even working as a Goddamned mercenary for the rich. I have a dog and a cat. I didn't BUY the dog and cat. They're ferals I resocialised because we can't afford to buy pets, let alone raise children.

[@genxx2724]

@@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow The expense of a per is not just the purchase price. It’s the medical care.

[@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow]

@@genxx2724 I don't disagree in the slightest. I'm asthmatic and allergic to bees. We're lucky we're here-ish. America's Millenials are even more fucked than we are. $250 for an asthma inhaler?!? No wonder Gen Z are just jumping off bridges.

[@genxx2724]

@@HowDyaYouLikeMeNow That’s being weak instead of using one’s brain. My colleague has a son with heart issues. She taught him from the time he was a child that he was going to have to get a government job, or a job at a large company where he’d have good insurance. Now the Affordable Care Act provides options. I work for the government. The co-payment for a three-month supply of generic medication through the mail-order pharmacy is $10.

[@TheRobsterUK]

The main difference between now and in the past was that hard work was worth it.....work hard, get a house, get a good pension etc, it was all achievable. Houses were affordable, education was mostly free. That's not the case anymore. Now you work hard and basically get none of that. Why would you work your life away for no reward?

[@sunshineandwarmth]

Bc ppl are depending on you. You have a world to make better. You haven't any right to waste away your life. And intrinsic rewards are worth way more and make you feel a lot better than physical ones. I pity you. What will you do when you are old and nobody has any use for you bc you contributed nothing to the world? Do you really believe you will have a satisfying life knowing that all you did was blow everything off bc life just wasn't worth your effort? Man, I pity you ppl. They should have called y'all the Lost Generations, the ppl who cheated the world.😴

[@frankprit3320]

Here's what nobody can seem to get through their head. Millennials and Zoomers by and large DON'T have children!! this is why they have the freedom to do what they want. Prior generations such as Boomers and Gen-Xrs all had kids, SO we had to be a work slaves................. Reply

[@seankernerman4210]

Older generations act like its a crime to not want 70 hour work weeks. "work hard to be successful" and make me richer bcs daddy needs a new Ferrari.

[@Wisecookies]

I didn’t get a raise or promotion because I am underperforming per my bosses… but god forbid I don’t show up to do my underperforming tasks

[@EcstaticTeaTime]

This. When I worked retail, we went through a system change with pay and benefits. Before, you only had a week paid time off, you could only use sick time for your dependents instead of yourself (over a hundred hours I never got to use each year,) and there was either no raise, 0.10, 0.25, or 0.45. No one ever got the 0.45 and you had to really be doing bad to get 0.10. I never was "above expectations" in my annual review given to me by the assistant managers who never were in the front to see what we were doing. The comment every year was to clean my area more. The front end managers who saw me working told me I was the only one in my area that ever swept the floor and I even took the plastic bags back to recycle when I went back because the break room was back there. Then, the system changed to PTO and the raise was 2% for everyone whether you were about to be fired or if you exceeded expectations, which miraculously I suddenly had on nearly every section of my yearly review. I was able to use PTO to go on vacation for 3 weeks and I was missed...because no one was taking the plastic bags to the back to be recycled. It was maintenance's job that they never got around to just like they never got around to cleaning our floor. When I went on vacation the next time, the same people noticed and it still wasn't maintenance that took them back; it was a person like me who just got sick of looking at it.

[@EVIESECOND]

I remember the joy of buying a beautiful home and the sadness of almost never being in it because of working so much. Balance matters.

[@halfhawkhalfman]

True, though that buzzword "balance" so often gets confused with indolence these days that I think it's far better to be imbalanced in one's 20's so that their 30's and beyond are far more secure.

[@wildcard9724]

Which you couldn't afford unless you worked so much. Funny how that works. Now you have proof of your hard work, and a place to live! (If you can now afford the friggin taxes) Thats the part I hate. 30 years paying for a house and the taxes now approach what the original payment was. Trust me kids, it never gets any easier. It ain't just you. The guy in the video summed it best: You just have to pay your dues.

[@MotherAotearoa]

You will get the rewards in later life, that's what happened to my parents, in their 40s and 50s they were barely at home (working hard), but now retired and enjoying their own property.... Life is sweet for them now..... They deserve it, they worked hard....

[@christinadelaflor1177]

It’s not laziness but actually realization that it’s not just about work, work, work. Then, we wake up the next day, we’re already too old to enjoy and spend time with people we love and experience things which really matter and are more fulfilling.

[@soulscanner66]

It's telling employers that you work to live, you don't live to work.

[@christinadelaflor1177]

@@soulscanner66 exactly!

[@Oscar_Armstrong]

@@GNMi79 It's not that you get 'too old' to enjoy things. It's that only enjoying things in the final stage of your life is a depressing reality.

[@kushalraj]

@@GNMi79by the time you’re old and can consider living by your comment, your parents have passed on, your kids have grown up and you’re not able to run after your grandkids. If it were a guarantee that working hard for 30 years would get me _____ sure, I might take that gamble. The problem is even if I worked hard for 30 years there’s a good chance I can’t slow down later anyway given how wages and the economy is going. If I could have a good work life balance it would mean that I could earn a good amount today, and do the things that make me happy. I would have to work for a lot longer but at least the whole time I didn’t miss out on living. The only people who lose are employers. You have to hire more people to work because current employees clearly tell you when their personal life starts and your work ends. Rather than spending more money hiring people give the current workforce a better wage and they will consider more hours to be fair for the compensation. If someone paid me enough money I would even work 16 hours a day, but how much I can be paid limits how much I’m willing to work.

[@TimothyCHenderson]

@@GNMi79 Why do something that's healthy only when you're older? Why not do those things that are good for your well being for the whole of your life, not just when you're older? You also can't get back time with your kids as an adult. You can spend time with them as an adult, but if you miss out on their formative years, you can never get that back.

[@rovermiles1]

I am not a Boomer, nor am I a Millenial. When boomers went to college, they could literally work a job full time in the summer and part time during the school year and come out debt free. You could also live comfortably middle class on one income. Today has become so expensive that you NEED 2 incomes to achieve home ownership and that level of comfort. They also were offered guaranteed pensions from their employment, that is no longer an option, and you are not immediately vested in your 401k until years after upon which companies are weeding people out reducing their support of their employees. Boomers have benefitted THE MOST from past policies that built up the middle class and as they took on leadership/ management roles; it was the Boomer Generation that removed the pensions, raised college prices, raised home prices, and allowed strong carbon usage to ruin the environment. Boomers have been a plague upon subsequent generations because of short sightedness and it's associated corporate greed; they haven't just failed millennials; they have failed ALL follow on generations and most know it.

[@dancinboi89]

In interior architecture school, I created a workplace that had a bunch of areas where employees can chill and relax and make the space fun, I was told that this was a slippery slope to a toxic workplace because employees lose track of time and end up staying later and later (this was 4-5 years before C19). Most jobs and tasks can be done from anywhere as they are done on the computer. The only reason there is a rush to back to office is because of the real estate market bros losing out on rental spaces, and managers whose sole purpose was to lord over employees and make themselves look good. It’s completely unnecessary for most vocations

[@thevoidisshining]

WHY IS NOBODY TALKING ABOUT THE FACT THAT *WORK MORALE IS LOW IN YOUNGER GENERATIONS BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN SADDLED WITH A MORE EXPENSIVE SYSTEM AND A BAD ECONOMY?!?* EDUCATION IS 5X AS EXPENSIVE AS IT WAS IN THE 70S AND 80S AND DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED WITH CHILDCARE EXPENSES AND GAS PRICES AND FOOD PRICES AND RENT PRICES!!!!!!!! ALL THE WHILE WE ARE DEALING WITH TERRIBLE WAGE STAGNATION WHILE THE COMPANIES WE WORK FOR ARE RICHER THAN EVER BEFORE AND CEOS MAKE MORE THAN EVER BEFORE. HOW IS EVERYONE CONVENIENTLY MISSING THIS POINT? ITS INSANE.

[@kommisar.]

Yes, all caps really makes me want to give your comment a like.

[@thevoidisshining]

@kommisar. thats such a constructive response!!! Give yourself a LIKE! Wooohoooooo FUCKIDY DOOOOOOO

[@kommisar.]

@@thevoidisshining Did you think you deserved praise for hitting the caps lock like a dork?

[@thevoidisshining]

@kommisar. if you would actually focus on the words maybe it would make more sense for you. You seem confused by big letters and big words. I'm sorry. That's too bad. Also I'm not like you in that I don't post a comment on KZbin for likes, like a dog looking for treats, I post to share thoughts and deepen the conversation. Your replies do absolutely nothing to deepen an important conversation. Great work, TROLL. BYE

[@Dre2Dee2]

If you think you're getting an education at these universities, then you got scammed again

[@tj28308]

One of the wisest advices older generations often share for the younger generations: "Act your wage. Working is not charity work."

[@5688gamble]

There has been a move over generations to have more work/life balance as workers demanded more benefits, a 0 hour week instead of 48, unionizing, etc. Why should our generation not seek progress after decades of regression? The myth is that I should work hard to satisfy people who already live very well! That I need to supply a demand for endless consumption that I am not allowed to then participate in! We have billionaires with massive yachts and helicopters, even rockets! They buy private islands and huge mansions! We are to work hard in squaler to satisfy their demand for more! Why? If I am to work it is because i want to provide a service to my community, not to generate profit for a faceless corporation so some bozo can play astronaut!

[@dylancleary5237]

I’m 36 years old, and work in high end hospitality. My clientele are people who have so much money that they have no perspective on what it’s like to live paycheck to paycheck into adulthood. They have no idea how it feels to not be able to afford to get the flu and miss a few days of work. I am a hard worker with a very good work ethic. I’ve been working minimum 40 hour weeks (max 70hr weeks) for at least the past 15 years (since college) and I have very little savings and I’m no closer to owning a home or earning a monthly income that allows me to pay all my bills on time, feed myself food that won’t take years off my life, and save for anything. I’ve done everything “right” to no avail. It’s not us, it’s the state of the world and the economy, the division of wealth, the greed of everyone, and the expectations of free labor still being prevalent in most industries. Something’s gotta give.

[@jasonleatherwood2172]

Been there done that get out of debt pay off ur house quit the vacations and restaurants by the time ur 46 you have it made like me no debt paid for house 130k family income with no bills

[@jasonleatherwood2172]

Im 37 with a paid off house worth 500k usd 200k in 401k 2 kids a wife got it made but took about 5 years of sacrifice

[@ericaespinosa4030]

​@@jasonleatherwood2172That is great for you but we live in places where renting and buying a home is too expensive. I know so many Millenials struggling and homes cost minimum $1 million here. 1 bachelor apartment costs $2500 a month. Lots of cities are like this. You obviously live in a place where most people I know would dream of buying a home that costs $500k. You have to understand how hard it is to live in such places.

[@daeclipse03]

​@@ericaespinosa4030move out of the big city and go to a smaller community if you can. 100k/yr where I live in NY will afford you a comfortable lifestyle. Are you in California?

[@WatchfulHunter]

Economic slavery at a global scale. Quit.

[@pixie7435]

These business owners and CEO’s need to realise productivity and loyalty would be substantial if employees are happier and able to balance their lives .

[@All.Natural.]

🎯

[@kevinpilcher2412]

It's not that we're lazy, were tired of making companies millions of dollars on our backs while we struggle to afford basic necessities and loose out on life experiences with our families to help a company profit. We work harder than most all the boomers while complaining less and yet we are still expendable and get paid pennies on the dollar for the efforts we put forth. Therefore, we are demanding a better balance between work and home life

[@oceanmellon6169]

Balance is a myth? Our whole world need balance to function.

[@zencivility]

Kudos to any generation that wants to change the world for the better! Well done and keep at it!

[@wwbuirkle]

Have you seen the world lately

[@danamarie8718]

As long as they don’t want those that disagree with them to pay for it.

[@AffluentBlacks]

Agreed. I like how some smart Millenials are pushing back against our industrial era "hard work" mindset.

[@wwbuirkle]

Yes and many will end up on the street banging dope@@AffluentBlacks

[@zencivility]

@@johncollins7062 True. We can hope for the best. I believe all generations want that.

[@artparty222murphy9]

Not lazy my kids work constantly but the younger one is shaping his life the way he wants it. My older daughter is an MD. No laziness in these two millennials.

[@rickyayy]

"Lazy Millenials" is boomer verbiage for lack of control.

[@Keepshitrealok]

Oh no, not my precious little darlings, they’re the most hardworking and not like the rest 🙄

[@DZ302-Z28]

@@rickyayy Gen z here, yes they ARE lazy AND entitled. Not all, but many!!!

[@javierjaime9386]

​@@Keepshitrealokyou feel better?

[@larosadesierta9146]

you can work freakin' hard and not see the financial success promised with hard work...it's a myth.

[@Love32377]

Good for her; daring to do what so many others never dare to do because of fear. There’s much to be learned from all generations!

[@Traceva]

I am a Gen X. Millennials aren’t Lazy! They are SMART! I wish I had taken their approach to Work rather than what I actually did: copy my Baby Boomer Workaholic Dad and have one nervous breakdown after another until I was so burnt out that I was unable to work when I hit my 50s due to permanent ill health Remote working would have been perfect for me Millennials: well done you!

[@skybluedreams77]

What is Gen X? I'm 46 y/o, what category I'm in? 😳

[@jaynicew]

@@skybluedreams77 You are Gen X!! Lol

[@jessicadorsett2757]

​@@skybluedreams77gen X. The oldest millennials were born in 81

[@user-hv5so6qz9z]

Well, look at the amount of any country`s debts that Millennials took us, with this attitude of more for nothing....well done Millennials.

[@Keepshitrealok]

@@user-hv5so6qz9zBoomers were responsible for the biggest debt crash in Modern history in 2008, its effects of which are still being felt now

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

As a boomer, now retired after working for 50 years, I fear for today's youngsters. Work seemed easier in the 70s but has progressively become harder and more stressful. My concern is that today's workers will burn out by the time they're 40. I worked in busy, stressful, environments for at least the four decades of my career but nowhere near as bad as it seems today. With kids having student loans after tertiary education, and increasing property prices - the challenges of home ownership adds even more stress.

[@jessicadorsett2757]

Honey we're done by 30

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

@@jessicadorsett2757 it's worse than I imagined...

[@violetsarelavender]

They are already burned out. Strokes and heart attacks in 30s and 40s!

[@klj481]

Yep...I'm 42 and recently quit my office job of 18 years. Living on 401k (and husband's part-time income) until I find something new... and different.

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

@@klj481 I wish you luck in finding something enjoyable which also gives you an income. I'm loving retirement even though I had to grow old to achieve it.

[@diegoulate6544]

The question...What is success? For me is NOT working hard for hours and hours making money for some big wig. Success is to being able to do the things that make you feel happy, useful and free!

[@harrisonpaley]

Im a millenial. I manage a labour team. Every person around my age is useless and lazy. I try to hire middle aged people. They work harder.

[@bailey7175]

I used to work for a very large company and they treated you like crap and always reminded you that you were replaceable pulling 60/70 hr weeks at different pay scales so they didnt have to pay you over time, i agree people are waking up realizing theres more to life:)

[@sandponics]

In 1789 the French had had enough of their aristocratic masters, but unlike today they had the guts to do something about it.

[@SKU377]

This need to change immediately. These big corporates need to learn that lesson that their success is bulit on blood and sweat of their employees.

[@peterbardsley2636]

As a older millennial I'm always laughing at the lazy tag, most boomers started their careers in an unpresidented boom in our world economy. They got cheap or free university education, cheap house prices, and often had a secure work/career environment. Contrast that to the experience of my generation. Massive debt to get university education if they did get one. Housing out of our reach. And often we had our careers and wealth completely crushed by the 2008 crash. I spent years working ridiculous hours, only to be unable to afford what my parents had when they were my age. To clear i don't blame boomers for their success, just don't tell us we just need to work harder.

[@lrevz9672]

Exactly same thing happened to my wofe and i . Both college educated becausr thats was suppose to guarantee us a great future based ofg our boomer patents who barely finished any college and landed pension paying jobs with company stock options that would net you almost 1million by retirement which gave you that incentive to work hard for 30 years because your good retirement was guaranteed. Now look at us.. everyjob wants you to work over 40 an overtime is forced not offered. No more pension stock iptions or great Healthcare plans past retirement were just left out to dry an if your non dollar for dollar matched sorry 401k plan runs out we wont even have social security to fall back on... work harder ... 4 what??

[@hoefmiester]

Total bs

[@joecater894]

correct

[@joecater894]

@@hoefmiester no, he's 100% accurate. I have friends, for example, who do exactly same job as their parents did in the 80s when they were raising them.. (same job.. slightly higher post actually in exactly same organisation) in exactly same city with exactly same life situation who absolutely cannot afford the same standards.. and also have to have 2 incomes going.. whereas their parents could have a house in a better area and their wife at home looking after the kids and house. truth is.. its different.

[@theboringchannel2027]

Reality is, you do have to work harder to have the same. Just like the generation before had to work harder than those before them.

[@joesterling4299]

I'm a "lazy" boomer. I was a wage slave for part of my younger years, but the 50-90-hour weeks eventually took their toll, and I got burnt out. I figured out how to make ends meet without slaving away for anyone. So I don't blame millennials, or any other age group, for seeking the same. I don't know if the hard years are avoidable altogether for most of us, though. There are always a lucky few who have enough charisma or talent to get good money thrown at them for a lower amount of effort. The average guy or gal? We have to do the real work until we can afford to leave it behind.

[@kennyzainali2364]

This is why AI is going to replace most of us...

[@markfornefeld299]

As an American millennial it’s great to feel that Australians have the same mentality as us Americans and they were not alone

[@23_Beans]

Yeah, it's great when you realize the universe doesn't revolve around the US! More of us should try it.

[@andyc9902]

Good. Work less . Enjoy life. Demand greater pay

[@MB-dp1rj]

@@andyc9902 No greater pay...enter the robots!

[@andyc9902]

@@MB-dp1rj 😂 even better. No work universal free basic income

[@rickyayy]

Boomers don't want to pay. They just want the money for themselves.

[@asheharris6642]

Going remote helped my severe anxiety. It also kept me from quitting. Unless I get another job somewhere else, I will never agree to go back to my workplace in person. I can work for my toxic micromanager boss as long as I don't have to see her face or hear her voice every single day. This kind of barrier has made me a happier person. During this time we decided to expand our family and have a baby as well. If I had still been in office, that would never have happened.

[@Insider9467]

The generation that had it the easiest calling other generations lazy.. oh the irony.

[@mare8076]

I'm almost 50 and I totally understand millennials, they are not lazy, they have a very healthy approach.

[@davidjones5547]

I am a boomer and I retired from my job as an engineer 20 years ago when I was 50 and today some 20 years later, I do not miss work, even for a minute. I am now able to enjoy life and do the things that I had not been able do over the previous 27 years of my working life.

[@ddddddno24]

It's great you had a chance to retire early...the way workers are treated these days is just so different...it's hard to get ahead

[@amandamccallum6796]

I am a millennial and my spouse is genX, he's already 54 and retirement at 65 might be a dream because we can't afford it. You worked hard for 27 years and can live off of that. We have already worked over 20 years and can barely afford rent. We need to find a way to enjoy life when we can because those retirement years are a pipe dream for us.

[@ninjanana8730]

I am sure you made sacrifices to be able to do that...like long hours,family etc.Also,how do you afford health insurance which is a biggie before 65.

[@ninjanana8730]

This was a reply to davidjones.

[@davidjones5547]

@@ninjanana8730 I worked no more than 48 to 50 hours a week. The way I got to retire early is that I never married by choice nor did I have any kids. Plus, I invested my money wisely.

[@bancabndu5837]

Kudos to the younger ones who got it right . Loyalty to a company was always a scam . Piling on work of two or 3 people because we are short without increased compensation was always wrong . I love , love the system disrupters.

[@russell-gt1dy]

My neighbor has been a lowly Costco employee for 30 years and has amassed a million dollars in stock bonuses and options

[@boston1976]

I don't think always. There became a point where it became a scam of sorts. There was a point when you knew your work paid off. You had pension and Healthcare taken care of. Therefore, dedication was easy to understand but now benefits have changed the loyalty factor is no longer what it use to be.

[@KatAnne17]

Yes!

[@stephenterrilltraveller]

I'm just a millennial in my early 40's and I've found there is a better work/life balance in the country rather than the city. Higher wages, No traffic, cheaper rent and better living.

[@martincheung2943]

Millenials are just smarter. What is wrong with not wanting to work long hours?

[@Ch-yz4yt]

Scott keeps talking about basic reality, but he hasn't yet grasped the reality that people are tired of working for nothing. A paycheck that barely pays the bills and requires you to do more just to survive. Maybe he needed those guardrails, but several decades have passed. He clearly forgets that.

[@leahcotton5315]

I was going to say - Scott has clearly never had the kind of job where you sit in the parking lot in the morning before going in trying to talk yourself into not just going home and giving up on life. LOL

[@brianadams6204]

It's not the pay that's the problem it's all these people who don't know how to budget and save. They want everything in the moment or they choose to have kids when they are not ready. They rather have toys and keep up with the jones to impress people they don't know. Yes things are expensive but if you budget right and even maybe work a little overtime here and there you will be fine.

[@twoburs1505]

​@@brianadams6204buddy, your Scott right now

[@Ch-yz4yt]

@@brianadams6204 wow, your privilege is showing. You might wanna tuck that back in.

[@HazMat1012]

Working in America, I feel the biggest problem is "busy" work. A good book I read is called "The 4-hour Work Week." One of the problems the author mentions is how bosses try to fill an 8 hour day/40 hour work week. A lot of time, there's only something like 3-5 hours a day/15-25 hours a week worth of work. So because there's an expectation to work 8hours/day and 40hours/week bosses will essentially make up extra work to fill the time. The other problem he mentions is all the distractions, especially unnecessary distractions. He mentions that studies show, depending on the task you're working on and the kind of distraction, it can take up to 45 minutes to mentally put your focus back on the task you were doing after the distraction.

[@mediacenterman8583]

I worked an office job where I could complete everything in half the time, but staggered my duties because any perceived free time was penalized! I also saw managers deliberately make work by planning meetings and pointless events. Hopefully the 5 day working week will be suitably adjusted.

[@genxx2724]

@@mediacenterman8583 If you work efficiently and do not indulge in distractions, the reward is the boss dumping slackers’ work on you. So you have to pace yourself.

[@jerryhorn4697]

Myself being born in 1964, I am certainly not a Millennial. However, I can understand the work/life balance that Millennials strive for. American businesses are trying to, once again, demand total control over their employees --- corporate slavery. The greedy CEOs of many American businesses crave to force longer work hours upon their employees with little or no overtime pay. In 2022, I retired from my job in Florida in civil engineering after 34.5 years of service. Today, I moved to Vermont and work seasonally in the hospitality trade as a park ranger. I am much happier now in my new job and my new life. After a total of 42 years of working long hours that ultimately burnt me out, I certainly earned my present and pleasant lifestyle of semi-retirement!

[@HuangHwei]

So these Lazy Generation can build bridges and ships from working less than 40hrs from home. How ridiculous.

[@GaisSacredCreations]

I agree, however, these are the white-collar workers...the blue-collar workers' hours have barely changed and they keep the society running..if the power grid goes down for a few years due to a natural catastrophe worldwide..the blue-collar workers will be doing the rebuilding while the white collars will perish..many go crazy if their cell service goes down for a couple of hours..Always good to learn how to farm on a small scale (at least one acre) hunt, fish and learn a trade that will keep you alive in the future..

[@Becky_Cal]

Gen X American here. I’d bought into this and now really regret making work my priority in my 20s and 30s. I missed out on my son growing up (we now have a broken relationship), I didn’t value my less ambitious husband and we got divorced and I lost a few very good friends because I was traveling everywhere and constantly such that I didn’t have the time to devote to the friendship. I had an epiphany at 45 and changed my life completely to have a more “lazy girl” approach to my work. Unfortunately, that came after much sacrifice and loss. Do NOT make work your “everything”. There are more important things in life and ultimately you’re never going to make what the CEO and top execs make, unless you are one…and if you are, you have no life. I worked alongside many of these exec leaders and most are miserable and spread their misery. Also, they could care less about you, your family or your health. Not worth it!!

[@funnyworldmemories6892]

Absolutely agree. If you are aiming for the top executive suite, accept the fact that you will have no life but the pay off will be money, also accept the fact that very few people make it there. It is draining, viscous and competitive. You cannot make it to that level with a lazy work mentality. However, for the vast majority that is not a meaningful life or realistic possibility so don’t make sacrifices for pay-offs you will never get.

[@CatJournal]

True

[@mattiemathis9549]

I’m 50. I worked my ass off from 13 to 38 and retired comfortably. I also missed every performance at school for my kid. My kid couldn’t participate in local athletics because we have no public transportation and I was at work. My daughter had more jobs by 18 than I did my entire life. I was so concerned that she was following that same path I took. She was working 70 hours a week when my granddaughter was born. My granddaughter is six now. My daughter has a good job she enjoys. Because of technology, if my granddaughter is sick, she can stay at home with her and still get company work done. She is physically in the office about 35 hours a week. She puts in another 10-15 from home most weeks. Millennials aren’t lazy, they just don’t buy into the sacrifice everything for your career. I don’t think wanting a balanced lifestyle is wrong. And with the technology available today, they have that choice.

[@testicool013]

they want a good work/life balance but also want all the luxuries and high standard of living that hard work and sacrifice provide. There are plenty of people in this world who are living extremely hard lives who would gladly take the opportunity to work 80 hours a week for the lifestyle most westerners enjoy, if all these millenials don't pull their socks up the very priviliged lifestyle they live will disappear. You should be ashamed of yourself for supporting their lazy attitudes, your great grand children will be the ones that suffer from your Hubris

[@MotherAotearoa]

You can work remotely, and STILL work hard.... But Millennials don't work hard (wherever they are), always calling in sick, fantasying of a high - life - style as in Instagram.....

[@kermitfrog593]

How were you able to retire at 38?

[@mattiemathis9549]

@@kermitfrog593 A lot of pain and a lot of luck. 😂

[@kermitfrog593]

@@mattiemathis9549 Can you offer more detail than that? It would be more helpful.

[@s1234pro]

My son is a millennial. He'll be 34 next week. He threw away a free college education. He manages my store and lives with me. Before that he lived with his dad and worked for him. He does as little as possible to get by. He won't move out of my home. He is filthy. He doesn't date at all. He doesn't have a bank account. He smokes cigs and drinks beer daily. His dad and I are not this way. We're very successful. He doesn't seem to care about anything, but football and his cell phone. He has lost friends. He gets angry when I try to talk to him about improving his life. I am heart broken.

[@rorrschach8339]

That's the life.

[@Hacking-NASSA-with-HTML]

No money can replace your time with your beloved one. You are working to live, not living to work.

[@limpfinger12]

For the last 3 years we've been told at my job how we've been killing everything as far as productivity, yet we still are being made to return to the office. Companies don't care one bit about your work/life balance; they care about control. You're easier to control in the office, and apparently they're ok with reduced productivity.

[@BlackSlimShady]

You kind of said it yourself man. "we've been killing everything as far as productivity", "they're ok with reduced productivity". Yeah man, they are okay with that. Honestly, as long as the company is making money, you can chill out. Just do your job, there will ALWAYS be more work. Its about doing enough to exceed peoples expectations, but not absolutely stressing yourself all day. I do that myself as a programmer, trying to crush every bug by the end of the day, and I feel like I'm not doing enough, and they want more! and blah blah blah, but nah they're really happy with how its going.

[@supersaturn956]

yup

[@dcarr-kr7hk]

@limpfinger12... Hey! The answer to your problem is to start your own business. Start it from home and no one will be "controlling" you -- except you.

[@TS-rd7oy]

I'm a tail end Boomer, born 1960. I did not join in with the members of my generation in this working yourself to the bone situation. I tried office work and hated it, didn't last very long. I deliberately did not have children so I could have the freedom to experiment until I found a career which allowed me to travel and work in countries all around the world. In addition, I invested in rental properties. I don't blame these young people at all.

[@jasonhertzberg4818]

I am grateful to hear this. I’m 31 and want to retire by 40. I also never plan to have kids because it’s unfair to subject them to all this nonsense

[@renedeleon4002]

I'm not tired of working, I'm tired of the traffic every day. 9 hours of working plus 3hours of commute back and forth. No time for myself and my family. 😢

[@mellosings6180]

He literally said “sacrifice friends,, family and fitness” Like what!??? That is real life!

[@dbhandmades]

The topic of remote work creating more opportunities for people with disabilities could've been discussed. As someone with multiple health issues, it was very hard to go to school full-time, let alone work a 40-70 hrs work week. Trust me I tried!!! I wasn't lazy, I literally worked until I made myself sick! So when I found remote work, it was absolutely life-changing. It meant not having to go on disability, being independent, and providing for my family. That guy who says that remote work makes people lazy can put that opinion where the sun doesn't shine!

[@starrjohnson1327]

I remember when remote work was difficult to get. I'm glad you have that job😊

[@ericaespinosa4030]

Well said 👏

[@halfhawkhalfman]

I'd highly recommend that you seek therapy to help you overcome whatever mental issue you have that prevents you from working face to face with others, at least part of the time, because yes, while WFH is productive (I do it too), you cannot be imprisoned by your anxieties to the point where they prevent you from making meaningful, professional, face to face connections when merited. Avoidance is not a viable long term coping mechanism.

[@ericaespinosa4030]

@@halfhawkhalfman I think you responded to the wrong post. This person did not comment on social anxiety. It was about her multiple health issues making it hard to work at the company or office and being able to work from home makes it easier for her to feel independent financially.

[@Adam-nw1vy]

@@halfhawkhalfman It's not just about social anxiety. Some people are introverts who have no health or mental issues. Nature created them that way for a reason. Why is it so hard to realize that some people are just different without pathologizing them?