LGR - King's Quest - PCjr Game Review

[@MetalJesusRocks]

Holy shit dude, I work at Sierra and I've never seen this version of the original game! Your game collection continues to blow me away

[@LGR]

MetalJesusRocks That amuses me :) Happy to continue to share!

[@BobMcLaughlinTheKachoMan]

I think when LGR does his "Sierra Historia" it should be a joint venture with MJR , at minimum a cameo knowing MJR's Sierra connection. LGR and MJR would be the KZbin equivalent of the WWE Mega Powers. It would explode the minds of the humanoid KZbin masses.

[@swishpronoob]

Bob McLaughlin Great idea sir!

[@GORYAWARRIA]

Right on metal jesus

[@gravemaster8747]

I didn't know Sierra was still around!

[@EerieGrey]

I love how the game draws in the graphics with each screen. It's probably a technical limitation, but that's really neat.

[@LGR]

Grey Bryson I love it too! It's a hallmark of games from this era, and I love going back to watch it draw itself.

[@BastetFurry]

Grey Bryson It's proceduraly generated to save space, most of those backdrops could easily be created with, for example. a single QBasic DRAW command.

[@-taz-]

Bastet Furry It's just vectors with flood fills. Because with 256kb of RAM there wasn't enough room for an off screen buffer. Also, they halved the horizontal resolution of the zbuffer, the hidden screen which indicates what objects you can walk in front of or behind. That makes the games REALLY low res with double wide pixels. Even though it's pretty clever, there are better ways to do it. It's just that they were in a huge hurry because... well... companies are always in a hurry! They never give us enough time to do anything right.

[@slade307]

Grey Bryson It reminds me of Graphics Magician which I had for my Apple //e. I don't think there was a PC version. It was a graphics editor designed for graphic adventure games. Instead of saving the individual images, it saved the steps to create the image on screen - taking a fraction of the space a saved image would take. It would draw the image onscreen like what you see in the video. It was a neat program to play with.

[@Yusuke_Denton]

Slade Simon LGR actually did a review of a game built with that editor.

[@JazGalaxy]

One of my best memories is playing KQ as child and then playing the KQ remake years later. I remembered walking onto a screen in the remake which was redrawn from it's oriignal version. The redrawn screen was missing something mundane like a big rock. I remember being SHOCKED by the fact that the rock was gone because, in my imagination, as a kid, that rock was incredibly important. I had tried to solve puzzles using that rock. I had tried to lift that rock. I had tried to roll that rock. I had, in my imagination, given the rock height, width, depth, and significance. The fact that is twas just GONE underscored how much of Daventry existed purely in my imagination. I think THAT'S the thing that modern games miss.

[@hanschristiaanhylkema]

You've described wonderfully what I totally agree with: Much of the old gaming experience was adding your own meaning and imagination to things. You had to invent a part of the game in your mind and that made certain games become a very personal experience. I too miss that time.

[@Abrakadabro666]

Thank you for sharing, 8 years later. Hope you're doing well!!!!

[@JohnOmniviz]

"Eat the king" "Eat witch blob" I like you

[@28Pluto]

"I'm just a little dude in a feathered cap, wandering around a world filled with twisted weirdos, dangerous creatures and unusual items." It's poetry, because aren't we all? AREN'T WE ALL?

[@iladelproductions8820]

Indeed!

[@LazoeJSCREI]

*> eat king* You can't do that here.

[@kaitsurugi3280]

Implying that it's possible at a different location xD

[@unitedunitedunited_]

Eat witch blob

[@BigPuddin]

*> eat king somewhere else*

[@televiciousgoober]

eat queen while king watches.

[@empath69]

@@kaitsurugi3280 Maybe you should take the king to a Motorhead concert? For some reason I feel like regiophagia would be encouraged there...

[@skudzer1985]

Did anyone ever stop to read that article around 4:16? "All around, electronic sound effects bounced off the walls as fascinated players jerked their joy sticks."

[@poble]

( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[@TheGreatAtario]

I cannot tell you how much people loved this kind of innuendo back then

[@fhuk8221]

There is something so beautiful and vibrant about these early Sierra adventure games :)

[@branchonequal]

I haven't heard much about Roberta for a pretty long time until just now when I read that she has received the GDC Pioneer Award in February 2020! Well deserved! :)

[@SamSpain]

I came here just for a review and I was wonderfully surprised by a short "Tech Tales" section of Sierra. This makes me happy.

[@banje72]

Holy crap, I used to play this game on my PC jr! I feel so old. Thanks for the detailed review and the trip down memory lane!

[@LostarSM]

"Eat King" It warms my heart to know that I wasn't the only one to try this.

[@LGR]

Stephan Sanderson I mean hey, you never know until you try!

[@mhcronje]

God this takes me back to my childhood. Kings Quest, Police Quest, Space Quest, Quest for Glory. Damn, miss those days.

[@Abraxis86]

Laying on the counch half asleep at 4am watching this. The blue screen at 6:01 gave me a panic attack as I jumped up out of my daze with a sickening feeling in my stomach and an overwhelming sense of dread before I realized your voice was still there and it was part of the video. 23 years later and I am still haunted by it... I literally have permanent PTSD from the blue screen of death, I am the IT equivalent of a nam vet.

[@PCG-NZ]

Kings Quest, Space Quest, Police Quest were all games of my childhood. They were awesome games that helped me learn to read and write.

[@vwestlife]

That box looks like an oversized audio cassette case! I guess IBM thought their traditional 3-ring binders would be too "formal" for a game, and a regular cardboard box would be too cheap -- so they invented something new, and then seemingly never used it again!

[@Fuzy2K]

+vwestlife For some reason, the box kind of reminded me of the Office 2007 box. About the only similarities though are that they are both made of plastic. :P

[@tsm688]

Lots of software came in teeny boxes those days ... Then blew up into full-sized, damn-near-empty boxes so they wouldn't seem "cheap". Then disappeared like the dodo.

[@peterfox7663]

Some of them had cartridges in them, so that's not too far off

[@AmayirotAkago]

King's Quest III was one of the very first PC games I ever played as a child, and one that showed me just how intricate gaming could be at the time. While over the years I gravitated more towards Sierra's other series, like Space Quest and Gabriel Knight, the King's Quest series always retained a certain charm about them. Smashing review, Clint :D A great history lesson and walk down memory lane.

[@Chris_WG]

Great video and game! (as always!) I loved seeing the Billboard Top Computer Software chart 5:02 with all of these old games competing against each other and what systems they were being introduced on. Such a blast from the past! Keep rockin it!

[@paavolampinen23]

You`ve become my favourite game channel in Tube! The PC-point of view correlates with my youth too. Also very informative and entertaining videos! Thank you, LGR!

[@revenile]

I played through King's Quest for the first time thanks to the humble sierra strikes back bundle. I went through it with the idea of playing all 7 of the original games in their original versions. Looking at it as a product of the time, it's simply mindblowing that anyone could actually figure out how to MAKE it. Such an important piece of gaming history.

[@russell2952]

Played this version when I was little. We made a hand drawn map showing each screen on a piece of paper and had it on the wall so we knew how to get around. And yes, that Rumpelstiltskin thing was ridiculous.

[@sha11235]

Didn't really matter because you still got something from his ass even if you didn't guess it right.

[@D9Beats]

Dude, I love your videos so much. I always look forward to them coming out. I especially love this one since I am a huge King's Quest fan. Keep it up!

[@flavorfulsoups]

Omg the nostalgia though. Played this with my dad when I was 7. Thank you for this gift to humanity lol 😆

[@tuggbakk]

One of my favorite episodes so far! Your channel is so crazy entertaining for a geek! :D

[@MisterReltec]

You have no idea how much this game means to me. This was THE first game I ever played when I was 4 years old in 1984. My aunt and uncle had a Tandy 1000 in their office and then had King's Quest and Loadrunner for it. My aunt didn't think that my cousin and I could understand how to play KQ, so we had to sneak into the office and play. This game is where I learned that the word 'carrot' had two "r's". We used to play this so much. You had to go to the garden to get the carrot so the goat would follow you and kick the troll off his bridge so you could cross it. Here I am now at the old age of 44 and I am still playing games. Unfortunately my cousin passed away 13 years ago, but we always talked about King's Quest, Space Ace and all the other Sierra games of the time. In honor of my cousin I got a tattoo that says "Waiting To Respawn" written in the 80's computer text, but I want to get another one below it that says ">Pick Carrot". No one will get the meaning and it will make a great story to tell them when they ask. King's Quest will always hold a special spot in my heart and it always reminds me of my cousin, James Paul Peterson.

[@sweegy1]

That was my first computer and first game ever. Great memories.

[@Denverdude7]

Same here. I learned how to play greensleaves on guitar many years later and couldn't figure out how i knew that song. It was from King's Quest. The game stands up well over time. The billy goats goatee is epic.

[@Wonko-bj4jx]

"Uh, yeah, the King totally put me in charge and then died for no reason. No, there's nothing remotely suspicious about that at all"

[@Infamous-quests]

What a great video. This game is the one that started it all for me, and why we still make adventure games today!

[@Aix_Plainer]

The drawing of each new scene is EPIC AF!

[@kap79]

"The lack of surprises persist within." Lulz. This kind of stuff keeps me coming back to LGR.

[@TheFlyingScotsman]

The way that the game draws the outlines before colouring the different items in one by one harks back to my childhood. Seeing colour films wipe down rather than just instantly appear makes a small part of me smile.

[@brotalnia]

i've been expecting this video for a long time, great job

[@seb2750]

Sierra's golden age was in the 80s as a game developer. Ultima, Larry, the Quests games. When I see a game with a Sierra mark, I get excited to play it then.

[@TokyoXtreme]

Watching King's Quest in 1080p at 60 fps... what a time to be alive.

[@SethanderWald]

This is probably my favorite video of yours. :)

[@sinephase]

the quest games were such fun! I even played some in dosbox when I worked at a call center taking calls :P

[@LGR]

sinephase Ha, I did the same at my call center job... also beat Jill of the Jungle there.

[@figit090]

God I love your humor. excellent narration.

[@kokake55]

I have to say that this episode has been the best I have seen so far. King's Quest has been always close to my heart and all of this information I got from this video was jaw dropping to the hell and beyond. It was rather shocking to know that Sierra wouldn't even be nothing but a just some garbage from the 80's. I would totally love to (maybe love too much in some cases) hear/watch more information about Sierra and it's games. A Sierra month sometimes perhaps hmmmm?

[@LGR]

Suff Norgh Thanks! I hope to do a Tech Tales on the story of Sierra, at the very least.

[@Nuculer9001]

As a small child, I learned how to read and write so that I could play this game.

[@SpaceMissile]

gamers are a more evolved breed.

[@TheGerkuman]

I love it when you go Tech Tales in the middle of an episode Clint.

[@MrMustang1973]

Wow. the PCjr was my first PC growing up. I loved that game!

[@tannerVBHC]

your reviews are awesome man,keep up the cool vids!

[@NihilQuest]

Great episode. I initially wasn't interested in watching as as I know the game fairly well but to add all this history, boxes... Well done. The only thing I missed was a look on other versions, especially Amiga (the one I played) and ST.

[@Kibaoftheleaves]

"Eat witch blob" Hahahaah! XD

[@Dreadjaws]

***** Also, "kill king", followed by "eat king".

[@Kibaoftheleaves]

Dr Ivo Robotnik You'll never get away with this, Robuttnik! >:U

[@THE_GIN_MASTER_]

***** Whoops I posted the same thing XD

[@silosis]

"charming as balls"

[@ion-shivs]

My buddy's dad had a PCjr, and that's the version that he owned. I remember my buddy had never really played it until I went over to his house one day and I wanted to try it. And that led to us being huge fans of the entire series for years after that. I hadn't seen the original IBM packaging since 1985 until this video...

[@nychold]

While this wasn't the first game I ever played, it was the first game that made me get into programming as a kid. I was 5, and it always makes me smile to see Sir Graham live again.

[@DeftilSteve]

Man, this takes me back so much. I loved this game. I also kind of hated this game (Rumpelstiltskin, I'm looking at you), but it truly opened up a world of wonder to me. It blew my mind and helped me realize the tremendous potential of PC gaming.

[@erics3596]

Played this on a PCJr as a kid...never did beat it - but still loved it.

[@admiraltogo2]

My family was one of the first to get the IBM PC Jr with King's Quest (my father was a systems engineer at IBM) I have many good memories of this game. It really did blow people away in 1983.

[@MrWolfTickets]

Brilliant video, as always.

[@PFBM86]

Every single person watching this video on Windows probably thought they got a BSOD at 6:01.

[@Kibaoftheleaves]

PFBM Yes.

[@amshermansen]

PFBM Naw - The new Windows BSOD is different. And sad :(

[@rebca_]

PFBM Non-fullscreen masterrace woo

[@fancysnake1]

PFBM I'm on a 5:4 screen so the black bars on the top and bottom killed it.

[@barth8258]

There is something so special (at least for me) about this blue screen that most people may not notice. The King Edward and inventory "Blue Screen" was pleasant to look at "and" listen to. If you listen closely (it probably only happens if the PCjr is running the game) you hear two special humming sounds. One is for the text materializing on the screen, and the other is for the blue screen display. It starts with the text "writing hum" and then switches to a different hum after it finishes writing the text. Ahhh, so soothing. I also love the river sounds in this game. It may just sound like TV static to some people, but I can tell that the developers meant for it to sound like water currents. Something about that stuff really draws me in.

[@EricFraga]

That's how you do a review of King's Quest, thanks Clint!

[@Achromatic_0]

When you realize Sir Grahame is the guy from that one painting in Minecraft

[@RJmakes69]

Really!?

[@awilfox]

2:57 wow. I lived there for a few years and even the locals had issued pronouncing Boca Raton. Thank you for doing it right!

[@DreamcasticChannel]

Typing in commands is so enjoyable in the King's Quest games! It gives the illusion that you could do just about anything in the game even though most phrases would just get a response like "I can't do that." or "I don't understand.". Regardless, it's just really amusing to type in things like "eat witch blob". Haha!

[@SageOwl]

I like that you mentioned the AGDI remake because it, and the other remakes they did, deserve as much attention as possible. I never knew there was a difference between any of the versions of the game, aside from the remakes and console port. Interesting to say the least. I'm very glad that Sierra didn't go kaput back then as well because they deserved everything that they accomplished... at least up until Mask of Eternity. I also never knew that you could charm the leprechauns with the fiddle; I always used the clover to dispatch them.

[@Michirin9801]

That SCI remake from 1990 still uses only 16 colours, yet it looks so much better because of the pixel-crafted backgrounds and higher resolution!

[@goinsouth051]

I remember playing this game back in the 84. My Parents worked for IBM in the 80s and 90s. I remember getting the IBM PC Jr. in 1984. Pretty much I wasn’t a “Computer Whiz” at 12 years old but I could play this game. Plus there was a cheat where you could win without finding all the treasures of Daventry. Oh how much I miss my childhood.

[@aaronanon3056]

Glad to see you sorted your lighting problem.

[@LGR]

Aaron Anon Indeed! Different bulbs did the trick.

[@zandernewson9933]

I remember when this video first game out. I was at work, I still work there, but I’d only just started. I didn’t really know anyone and everything seemed a bit daunting. I went for lunch, and decided to sit in another room by myself. Feeing a bit sorry for myself, I looked on KZbin to see that LGR had just realised a new video and I smiled.

[@scyfris]

First adventure game I ever played. Influenced a lot about my love for games

[@Cailet]

Ah King's Quest, my sibs and I loved you so much. We had big maps stuck on the wall drawn on computer paper with the holes down the sides. And that moment we figured out you could walk just a pixel below the screen and you wouldn't get hurt or fall in any rivers or anything. Man, we felt cool.

[@paule6101]

Great video as always, thanks.

[@jasonz7788]

Great work Sir thank you for the great work Sir 👍

[@cjbeckersf]

I grew up on Sierra games. I also grew up in the same town they were in. As a young child I overlooked their building at my school playground dreaming what it must be like inside. Many friends, and family members worked there and I was lucky to get free games out of it!

[@g1998k]

Before this game, all we had was Jumpman, pacman and space invaders. I played this game on a green monochrome 4MHz PC till Amiga 500 came later on and brought affordable colour to our life. EGA cards and colour monitors were way too expensive. Even with a monochrome monitor it was amazing. All your progress depended on the condition of 5.25 diskette.

[@nordfreiheit]

It always fascinates me- it seems playing PC games in the 80s required a lot more technical computing knowledge.

[@g1998k]

Let me explain, “we” refers to me and my friends which obviously excludes you. And no, “we” (friends and me) didn’t have commodore since it was not so popular “here”’(my country). By 1988 AMIGA and ATARI ST was popular and “we” (the friends and me version) preferred over everything else.We (friends and me) also went for a common system to exchange games.

[@brainstar64]

Sierra sure made a lot of great games back then, and King's Quest sure did a good job. I wish I had a copy.

[@MattMathias]

I had the OG IBM produced version. Also had a couple early Sierra (at the time simply OnLine) games including the Serenia graphical adventure ('go north", etc )

[@Maggerama]

Sierra's desire to kill or soft lock the player worked really well for their earlier, shorter games - they felt like rogue-lites, lol. Well, I didn't mind it in Space Quests and Quest for Glory either, but just because I knew Sierra already, so I saved often, and to different slots.

[@commonsense7057]

I forgot all about this game. I used to play it on the Dos based IBM computer that we had as a kid. Talk about a trip down memory lane.

[@nesnahprotsdam]

I always had a great respect for Roberta. She really was brilliant when it came to those darn Kings Quest games. She also looked kind of cute when she was young.

[@corrsgirl1]

I'm playing KQVII right now, so glad to see you talking about the first game. Haven't played any others (played VII as a kid) so I need to look into them!

[@patrickwalsh2086]

I love the giant cassette case style of the box the game comes in. Wicked!

[@Scarfulhu]

IBM box Graham has glowing red eyes. Spooky.

[@MagusMarquillin]

Scarfulhu Never trust a bad Graham, guy.

[@Scarfulhu]

Magus Marquillin Graham's hips don't lie. Or do they?

[@Stonerman023]

Scarfulhu Magus Marquillin *Grahame

[@Infamous-quests]

Scarfulhu I wanna see an adventure game with IBM Cover Grahame in it. Silvery armor, shield, sword and red eyes like a mofo!! Someone, get on that.

[@vanyadolly]

Crownicsz mte

[@Bob3D2000]

I loved the while King's Quest series. This is a full-on nostalgia trip.

[@GuitarAnthony]

Oh God, the PCjr. I remember the Charlie Chaplin ads in 80's videogame mags.

[@pacman10182]

***** too bad he never got to see it.

[@Infamous-quests]

***** It's funny you mention those; I remembered them so much, that I made a parody ad out of one for our rpg/adventure game, Quest For Infamy, last year. Loved those old ads - they obviously stuck with me.

[@vaughnbellwood4605]

I absolutely loved the King's Quest series. The first one I played was King's Quest IV and I still consider it my second favorite game of all time (the first being The Legend of Zelda for the Nintendo Entertainment System)

[@KairuHakubi]

holy crap, it's Rather Dashing! I didn't realize how thoroughly they'd ripped off his sprite. It's about as subtle as Stinko Man's sprite.

[@SpaceMissile]

i played Peasant's Quest waaaaaay before i knew this was a thing. lmao i was like "dang this looks super similar!"

[@hoangtran4736]

i love how adventure in serenia looks like something out of my kindergarten drawing collection

[@Valitzu777]

You good sir, you are an amazing reviewer and editor!! Another fine LGR production! Never played this even though I've been a gamer for over 30+ years, though just like you, I can certainly appreciate it for all its nostalgic goodness! Question, were the puzzles of this game logical? nothing spoils a game for me more than illogical puzzles, ie "Put the cat in the oven, then its ashes goes in the soup, which makes the king poop diarrhoea while you quickly take the hidden broom behind the curtain" :)

[@LGR]

It's pretty logical, but as with any fantastical adventure game it has its share of fantastic silliness too. Rumplestiltskin is the worst, but the solution is so infamous now that it's not so bad.

[@MagusMarquillin]

***** Also, it's full of multiple solutions, more then most Sierra games had, including the gnome puzzle. Dead ends are also possible, but not all that likely as to be horrible, so long as you keep multiple saves and pay attention.

[@kaitsurugi3280]

Thank game actually looks pretty cool! I would definitively play that today!

[@sha11235]

I remember this version where the stuff was at the bottom of the screen. I also remember the little music cues that played throughout.

[@voidstar1337]

Neat, I had the version with the box art for the Tandy (with a picture that was a room full of treasure). Which now makes me wonder how that picture was put together - was it at the Williams' house? (you know one of their prior games had a photo from their hot tub! and some stores wouldn't even stock that game :) ). At 6:06 wow, it wasn't a typo in the manual, even in -game it was Grahame - and I compared that text description to the 1987 version, they did change it to Graham. 05:23 isn't that intro tune also used when you enter the castle for the first time? (yes, in the '87 version, when you open the castle doors, it plays that sound). On the Tandy 1000 at 8MHz, I didn't notice the "drawing of the scenes" as much - but that is a neat effect. Would be neat to see a modern game capture that effect, of "painting a scene" but actually make it playable while it is being drawn and painted (i.e. already completed painted objects can move across remaining unpainted background). 10:05 Amen. // Ken is working on a new game here in 2022, be on the lookout!

[@mr_selfdestrukt]

Growing up, my family couldn't really afford a PC, so I never really got to experience this game as a child. My first gaming console was a Atari 2600 (though the NES was out at the time) I believe it was about 93-94 when we finally got our first PC, which just happened to come with a booklet of CD-Roms. Kings Quest I Enhanced was one of them (that and Space Quest 4, which is another great game) Needless to say, even 10 years after the originals release, it was still a surprisingly fun game to play. Those were great days for gaming. Mind you, gaming is still great in this day and age.. it's just different.

[@pavakah]

Nothing lazy about this review. Thanks for sharing.

[@coolnut99]

"So you'd better go find [the three treasures] or else Daventry goes down the crapper." I don't know why, but that is the funniest line in the review.

[@Denverdude7]

I had this exact version for the pc jr. Classic. Police quest and space quest. Lots of simple puzzle solving fun.

[@anthonyt1t5]

I want to collect vintage pc games now. This is so cool

[@WickedMuis]

The sierra games were among the first games that REALLY brought me into PC gaming. Most games were action-based and didn't impress that much. But these adventure games had you thinking, solving puzzles to continue the story. And since English isn't my first language I often had problems understanding everything, being a youngster, but I was loving it :D Leisure Suit Larry, Police Quest, Space Quest... good times!

[@dpavlovsky]

All the King's Quest games were pretty great. Favorite one was _Heir Today, Gone Tomorrow._ The chick one was pretty cool too (Princeless Bride).

[@DoubleM55]

6:00 - Looked like windows "blue screen" to me :)

Sierra may have invented what we call the P&C adventure game, but LucasArts actually made them GOOD.

[@mjp29]

I first seen this game on a Tandy computer in Radio Shack. I was extremely impressed by the graphics. I had never seen a game that looked so realistic!

[@peterfox7663]

Loved playing on the PC Jr. My favorite was Jumpman. My dad taught me how to use a hex editor (Norton Utilities I think) to change the names of the level title screens.

[@RowanBriar]

I specifically searched your channel to see if you had Kings' Quest or Quest for Glory. My mom played both, and prefers Kings' Quest, but I've always loved Quest for Glory. The one thing I enjoyed more in the Kings' Quest series are the word puzzles and puns.

[@HorologicRannygazoo]

In late 2013, my then Flappy Bird and Minecraft obsessed 9 year old was in a house in Minecraft, and it had a picture of Sir Graham on the wall. After my explaining the picture, he and I then played a fun game of how to score 159 out of 158 in King's Quest (Roberta Williams Anthology running through DOSBox). He still refers to it as a great classic game.

[@matt1834]

Love the review LGR. Would be good to see you do the other "quest" series, in particular space quest. I loved that particular franchise, especially sq3! Thanks for sharing :)

[@MichaelSartore]

ERROR: @ 1:46 the literature states "Please note that sound cards and mice are not supported, as they DID NOT EXIST." Not true. I had an IBM PCjr with the IBM King's Quest Edition, and we had a MOUSE! It was a Mouse Systems Optical Mouse (with metal grid mouse pad). It came with PC Paint. (didn't work for KQ tho).

[@LanIost]

Wow, I know this game sold well and it was most likely probably a showcase game ... but how could they not place in game screenshots on the back? With years where we had pre-rendered screens and stuff as actual gameplay footage we had a small window here, specifically, where something like this would have literally been revolutionary. Like I said, I know it sold well but I can't help but feel like it would have sold WAAAYYY more if IBM had abandoned their stock design here for once...

[@jesuszamora6949]

+LanIost Well, as LGR himself says, the IBM PC and PCjr versions were a complete commercial failure, because people played their computer games on C64 and Apple II. The game didn't really succeed until the Tandy 1000 and Apple 2C came out. Not that I'm surprised. Poor box art + computer not really considered a gaming platform = fail. However, this is just another example of how sheer dumb luck can play a role in people's lives. If the Tandy 1000 and Apple 2C hadn't come out until AFTER Sierra closed down, an entire era of graphical adventure games wouldn't have happened at all.