LGR 486 Update! Unboxing & Installing Windows 3.0

The LGR Woodgrain 486 PC is due for an upgrade... to the year 1990! I've got a brand new in box copy of Microsoft Windows 3.0 to explore so let's install it on top of MS-DOS 6.22 and enjoy some SkiFree.
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[@HughesEnterprises]

“I’m not a time traveler” That’s exactly what a time traveller might say.....

[@vincentlaterreur8845]

Exactly

[@netsurferx1]

*Wanted* : Somebody to go back in time with me...

[@tomyyoung2624]

LCR: Yes yes yes!

[@Shadethewolfy]

Tell me your secrets, John Titor...

[@CanuckGod]

To be fair, IBM 5100s won't work, they need to be IBN 5100s for time travel... at least if you're in a visual novel, anyway.

[@psyko2666]

I just watch a video of windows being installed and I liked it. What has happened to my life to get here....

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Maybe you are an entitled millenial? LOL

[@audymaulizar6697]

Good good let the nerd flow through you

[@TheTechGuyYT]

rimmersbryggeri how does watching windows get installed make someone entitled

[@rimmersbryggeri]

Heard of sarcasm?

[@vhfgamer]

I would have to say your life improved.

[@bepowerification]

its funny how the XP installer looks EXACTLY the same. the blue things before the real installing starts

[@LGR]

Yep, Microsoft held onto that installer for nearly two decades!

[@KaitoTriforce]

But they used it only on their NT-Systems. Windows 9x/Me had another installer that looked better than windows xp. They even had mouse support.

[@HattmannenNilsson]

You know what they say - if it ain't broke, don't fix it. The thing about those text-mode OS setup programs is that they just work and provide you with a handy way to, for example, give the installer additional drivers for your exotic hardware before trying to run the actual installer. I liked that.

[@TheTurnipKing]

It's more accurate to say that 9x had it's own installer. Which makes sense, they were trying to show off it's graphical handling chops right from the get-go

[@ZiggyTheHamster]

Win9x's installer was basically a stripped down version of Windows 3.1.

[@ub3r73k]

those wallpapers look like a saved by the bell intro

[@caharkness]

Good times when everything looked like a Dixie cup!

[@BollingHolt]

My thoughts exactly, Douglas!!!

[@fujitafunk]

I was just about to say the same thing! Haha

[@BEdmonson85]

Ahhh! I was just going to ask if anyone was getting any Saved by the Bell vibes from those wallpapers! :)

[@Narxes081206]

I said the same thing when I saw it... gosh I'm getting old!

[@heyyitsultima]

I know you film most of these in a storage unit where you keep your things, but God I can never stop imagining your house to be the most beautifully retro house in existence. Possibly 70s shag rug, wood grain everywhere, beautiful retro computers lined against every wall... That would be a dream house :P

[@raven4k998]

hope he never stops paying for that storage unit or you may see it on storage wars

[@heyyitsultima]

@@raven4k998 I'm fairly sure he would sell his entire collection or get it in a museum long before he ever let the storage unit just go.

[@raven4k998]

@@heyyitsultima one can only hope one can only hope because some of those storage units on storage wars have some pretty cool stuff inside how come they got abandoned so you never know you can only hope for the best

[@henrywhyte]

And a '76 Monte Carlo in the driveway

[@KarlAdamsAudio]

So much nostalgia here - Windows 3.0 was the version I first learned to program. Back in this era the Windows SDK came with a veritable shelf-full of manuals (the Windows 3.0 Programmers' Reference books could also be purchased at your local bookshop - I did exactly that, as well as a copy of Petzold's "Programming Windows".) No fancy IDE here - the whole thing was done using your favourite text editor and the Microsoft C compiler, all running under MS-DOS. Windows 3.0 was pretty flaky too - it was your responsibility as a programmer to get everything just right - or else bring the whole OS down along with your errant application. Naturally it sometimes just fell over for no particular reason too. Happy days...

[@GalaxyStandard77]

I like how the jazz music played more prominently when he pull out the knife

[@keithbrown7685]

mac the knife? : )

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes only does!

[@JovinRepairs]

"Leroy looked like a jigsaw puzzle with a couple of pieces gone..."

[@NSstl]

Wow, brings back memories. One of my parents worked for Forsyth Computers at the time. Great video.

[@MartinKronstrom]

Man I like to be greeted when I'm playing your videos. It gives me a sense of nobility.

[@MichaelJGardner737]

You rock my man. This brought back so many memories. THIS WAS MY FIRST WINDOWS AS A KID & I STILL LOVE IT!!!😍

[@SuperJet_Spade]

Great video like always. Nice seeing the LGR Woodgrain 486 again.

[@Jakeinlivincolor]

Wavetable Guy we need a Woodgrain Floppy Disc!

[@SuperJet_Spade]

Jacob Scarberry I agree

[@nilswegner2881]

Jacob Scarberry what is a floppy disc? I only know floppy disks but I have never heard of floppy discs...

[@SuperJet_Spade]

DJ Slinus I'm going to guess that "disc" is the alternative spelling to "disk."

[@nilswegner2881]

Wavetable Guy but that is incorrect. We refer to disks as the storage media that you hold in your hand, like the metal casing of a hard disk drive or the plastic casing of a floppy disk. A disc on the other hand is the flat material that is inside the floppy disk's casing, that magnetic piece of plastic. What is also referred to as a disc is a CD or DVD because these are handled without a protective casing around them. You can look all of this up on Wikipedia if you don't believe me.

[@Carstuff111]

Ok, seriously, I know you may not read this... but I now have to watch all of your videos with the captions on...because it makes then even funnier!

[@SuperLumipallo]

I just love this stuff! there is just something special about installing fresh windows to PC.

[@SuperLumipallo]

This is so special that before I watch this I'am going to make a cup of coffee.

[@rahulsawant_pikachu]

installing fresh windows on fresh pc

[@lharris428]

I swear it's like a new car smell... only that Windows doesn't smell. Usually I just need an excuse... just one to nuke Windows. Why? Because there's nothing like it. Having a home server helps since everything of importance is on there which makes the only pain point being the re-install of games you can't easily backup.

[@AgentTasmania]

Since my new laptop included the disk for W10, I may get to experience that for the first time eventually

[@tomyyoung2624]

Yes That Serious

[@theflamingninetailedfox4651]

Man, since I was born in late 2001, I have never experienced retro computers. However, your videos allow me to experience the computers and games that passed me by! Keep up the good work!

[@oinka720]

Marketing Guy #1: "We need some awesome box art to help sell this thing. Something cool that everyone can relate to." Marketing Guy #2: "I've got it! How about music?" Marketing Guy #3: "Great idea!" Programmer Guy: "But guys, it doesn't even have any sound capability." All Marketing Guys in sync: "SHUTUP NERD!!!"

[@aaldrich1982]

Marketing Guys were all Peter Molyneux?

[@extragirth64]

oinka720 This makes me want to read Dilbert.

[@azraelle6232]

Final panel of comic: Programmer Guy is thrown out the window

[@DisplacedGamers]

So many memories of Windows 3.0. We jumped from a 5150 to a Compaq 386 with Windows 3.0 back in the day. I don't think I have seen those backgrounds in 25 years, so you delivered a 1-2 nostalgia punch with those. I actually typed some papers using Write (yes... Write). I remember printing italics on some words for one assignment and actually impressing my English class. Yes - people getting excited about the use of italics on a printed assignment. Thanks, LGR. I only wish we could have seen the 3.0 splash screen - which takes up the whole screen unlike Windows 3.1.

[@theycallmejojo6090]

It felt like yesterday when you built your 486 and now it has 3.0 They grow up so fast........

[@wfp9378]

I am messing around on my 486 running Win 3.11 as I watch you and am having similar laughs and giggles...nostalgia is a blast sometimes. Just triggers happy memories of people and things I thought I had forgotten.

[@TheStevenWhiting]

Don't even need to wait for the advert to finish before thumbing up. Every video is great. And the background music. Nice. 90s nice.

[@MattDaddyPrime]

Currently sitting in MS headquarters watching your video with some fellow old-school Windows peeps. Love it! Keep up the good work, man.

[@Roadstar1602]

I'd never have the balls to break the seal on that sucker unless I had another sealed copy.

[@petes9845]

Great video. It seems like yesterday when I had my first real office job and I was so excited to finally work with 3.1 for the first time. Time moves too quick.

[@paradisium3799]

*Papers fly out, onto the floor, milliseconds after opening*.. Clint: "aww, ffffff"..../end scene Let the obsenities flow, my man😂

[@toymachine4253]

Paradisium Just like 28 years ago

[@WildDiamond07]

LGR: FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK Me in shock: Watch your language, Clint. Remember when you called your IBM PS/2 Model 25 a motherfucker?

[@VideoGamerExpert5]

man i just adore this stuff! there is something Nostalgic about a fresh Install of Windows to a 486 PC!!!!! LGR your Content is watchable all day long

[@frozentunadeluxe3163]

The soothing sounds of Clint on a Friday. Life is good!

[@hishok3332]

those crisp pristine floppys are gorgeous reminds me of installing windows 95 back in the day

[@aureliomarsili3902]

Great !!! You deserve a degree in IT history !!!

[@robintst]

I love watching the woodgrain 486 go through the incremental updates and upgrades it might have actually gone through back in those days. Even for not having been a PC user at the time, it still conjures up a lot of nostalgia for me. Thanks for another great video, Clint! :)

[@keithbrown7685]

It's living history.

[@visualaudio22]

My favorite was my mother opening the very first windows 8 surface tablet my dad got her for Christmas! The funny part was after spending 15 minutes looking for a physical paper user guide she found it saved on the tablet! The best part of reading the digital user guide was even though you've already figured out how to turn on the surface tablet the user guide still had the instructions to turn on said device! Ya I think if I am reading the user guide I have more than likely figured out how to turn it on😆

[@LokiYD]

Fun fact, Forsythe Computers is still around! As of May last year, operate under Sirius Computer Solutions in STL as a B2B service. Not often you seem some business still around after so long.

[@benjaminbrady2385]

Hell yeah! The woodgrain 486 videos are my favourite

[@andreisabe]

I just wanted you to know that your videos have helped me a lot in a very hard time in my life dealing with depression. You can't even imagine the positive influence that that you've had on me.... I just wanted to say thank you.

[@ShinodaCM]

The return of the LGR Woodgrain 486. That computer is my "LGR Thing" waifu. Clint might do this show alone, but some of his stuff have character of their own. The Woodgrain 486, The rock outside goodwill, the packard bell. Even inanimate objects like the christmas clone have personality.

[@lordbusiness305]

Everything about this video just brings back so many awesome memories from childhood. Window 3/3.1 was really my first time troubleshooting Windows problems and learning what everything did. Keep up the awesome work LGR, and I am very jealous that I do not have the time to go down these rabbit holes for myself!

[@hopefulwarrior4953]

I bet Clint is the kind of guy who reads those user manuals before bed.

[@boyandking]

bro that was a box the whole time! @18:51 I had been staring at that the whole video like, geeze that is a little computer over there. The quality of the video and of the image on the box just made it for sure look like a miniature PC over there. The way the desk featured on the box lined up with your actual desk, color and angle is just idk, crazy.

[@honeytgb]

2:55 "So Crispy ... so enjoyable" 3:01 "Aw F*...." LMAO!

[@KentuckyRanger]

I really enjoyed this! My first desktop was a Packard Bell 486 DX-2. These videos really being the memories flooding back!

[@Valitzu777]

As always, awesome.. now back into your time machine and review either windows 1.0 or 2.0 please :)

[@Sloposse]

Great video Clint, I've just installed dos 6.22 and windows 3.11 on a laptop that originally came with xp on it, the nostalgia is absolutely oozing from it, I have no idea why but I share your attraction to old ibm stuff its just so nice to see and use it

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

"No, YOU are an Asymetrix Run Time Tool Box," is now my favorite come-back line.

[@MintleafCakes]

Man, watching him open the package with such soothing music is just relaxing to me. Love the video dude. ❤💻

[@FredericBezies]

Goupil was a french computer maker. Goupil is old french for wolf.

[@LGR]

Well now I really want a French wolf computer.

[@erwangleo4193]

Actually Goupil is old french for fox. Nice video, greetings from France ! Et au passage merci mr Bezies pour vos vidéos de test de distros, c'est toujours plaisant à regarder.

[@ahmedboukhalfa288]

c'est tres magnifique de trouver des gens qui parle le français

[@ordinosaurs]

Unsure if it would run windows, but my favourite Goupil is the awesome and quite rare G4, one of the very few 80186 based computer. And it's one of the best looking PC compatible ever made.

[@Aravzil]

Wrong one! It means fox.

[@TheDrummerDude17]

Woow...1990 has truly come forth with those backgrounds and color schemes. I love it! These classic versions of Windows show just how much we take modern technology for granted these days. Simple things like a calendar and Solitaire were considered huge selling points back in the day, and now? Eh, they're just there. How awesome it is that we can still enjoy these old computers today!

[@JasonStevens]

3.0 is awesome! You need Sim City for Windows 3.0! Let me know if you need that version.. Windows 3.0 was significant by running in protected mode on 286 & 386+ machines breaking the 640kb DOS barrier. This was at the time when OS/2 directed by IBM was the 'future' but DPMI allowed Microsoft to pave their own direction, and dump the IBM partnership and forge their own direction. Now you just need Windows NT 3.1 to show how Microsoft had transformed NT OS/2 into Windows NT! Windows 3.1 added major things like True Type fonts, Multimedia, ODBC etc.. And more importantly, broke the Windows that IBM had bundled into OS/2 2.00. Which of course was a sore point for Microsoft as IBM had blocked them from porting Windows to OS/2 and making Windows the GUI onto OS/2. Even the whole road to OS/2 2.00 was convoluted by IBM, as they had blocked Microsoft from pushing out 386 support way back in 1987. phew.

[@absurdengineering]

Jason Stevens Wow: I recall now - the Adobe Type Manager (or something like that) for 3.0 - absolutely necessary to do DTP and laser printing back then. Also: Corel Draw 2. I loved the ability to semi-automatically trace bitmaps and generate high-quality scalable artwork out of them - as a young kid, too. I was in elementary school IIRC.

[@nitramluap]

I used to love the large user guides. I remember when MS Office came in a massive box (on 3.5" disks) with huge manuals for Word, Excel & PowerPoint. To this day I remember the smell of the print and there is a single journal published in my country that smells exactly the same. Brings back memories... I read them all cover to cover way back in 1991!

[@antdude]

Flashbacks!! Actually, Windows 3.0 came preinstalled on IBM PS/2 PCs. I did buy Windows 3.1 upgrade from my local Egghead Software store. Oh yeah, I had to buy Stacker since my IBM PS/2 model 30 286 10 Mhz PC's 30 MB HDD was tiny! :(

[@JeffDeWitt]

I bought my first copy of Windows (3.1) at the IBM PC Outlet Store , and it was much cheaper than anywhere else. If I remember right Microsoft was requiring PC makers to buy Windows licenses for every PC they built whether it had Windows installed on it or not. So IBM had a lot of extra Windows licences.

[@dieterhrabak4947]

Stacker, and with the release of 6.2 version of MSDOS, it became an integral part of MSDOS, under the name of doublespace.. Stacker is still a better one's though..

[@mrsnufflegums]

Your Channel is amazing, man! I love your smooth calm voice, the reviews of computers from before even I remember using computers, and its all so smooth and high quality production value!

[@LGR]

Thank you!

[@joesatchton212]

LGR: That weird glitch with the install disk reminded me of something I've been meaning to ask you, though you may have covered the topic in the past... Correct me if I'm wrong, but are we not rapidly approaching [or have already passed] the projected maximum usage life for media like those 3.5" [and 5.25"] disks? I am aware that proper storage of such media can extend their lifespans but still, at some point they will all become unusable. VHS tapes, etc...included as well. And of course, the better the original storage medium quality, the longer they may last, yadda yadda yadda... Given your...ahem...collection, do you / have you proactively taken steps to personally archive those priceless original disks using modern methods? Or are you relying on other, public archive sites to hopefully capture and maintain those things for eternal public consumption? I ask because I too have a small [probably a couple of hundred game disks and such] and probably around 100 VHS tapes that I need to make time to digitally archive...pretty soonish I would think. Maybe a 2018 episode on best practices to handle this sort of thing? :) cheers!

[@Lan-Fo]

Joe Satchton he archives everything he has, he made a video or two about it

[@jayhill2193]

Clint saves everything he gets on floppies and if one fails one can rewrite them. This has of course a limit too since the magnetic disk will wear down at one point so, if nobody has the idea to produce new floppy disks, they will become nothing more than delightful shelf attractions.

[@joesatchton212]

+John Hill: Thanks. :) But I see a couple of problems with writing magnetic floppies to new floppies - they're still going to go bad within his lifetime as you mention. Then there's the time issue to copy and in his case, the sheer number of floppies involved. He'd need an army to get it done in a reasonable amount of time, not to mention the equipment. :) In my case, I'm probably gonna burn floppies to IMG files on DVD with a decent folder structure. Eventually. Same with the VHS tapes, though I may purchase a dedicated VHS to DVD burner and just do one or two tapes a day. For me, even worst case scenarios for DVD lifespan [using Taiyo Yudens only of course] should outlast me on this planet. Clint's case is fascinating as he is amassing a priceless historical archive and as he says, he'd love to share it with us all one day. I was just wondering what his long term strategies might be given the ever shortening lifespan of those magnetic floppies.... cheers!

[@Chaos89P]

Joe Satchton I think it's best to keep them on some sort of server just in case. I intend to also rip a few VHS tapes I want kept onto my computer as well. "Saving image files onto your computer isn't piracy, it's 'archiving'!"

[@GreyFox2000]

I just assume his collection exist outside space-time.

[@SpaceLordLono]

Can I express, i'm not even a techy guy, I love LGR's videos cause theres a relaxing quality to them. I especially like how his videos are kinda free formed and not overally edited or reading off a script... It's all very natural, almost mundane but I mean that in a positive way. IDK, I dig it and I keep finding myself watching his content... but I also just like learning shit.

[@ardoronro6677]

Wow, It's at this moment I realize Microsoft hasn't changed its logo font in over 30 years. Now that's a lasting brand.

[@UNSCPILOT]

And at this point they probably wouldn't dare try to change it as it would be a net loss

[@DragRedSim]

Except they did change it in 2012. Though the previous version (the italic text with the small cutout between the o and s letters) is familiar to many, even today, the logo is now four coloured squares and the company name in grey Segoe UI. This was around the time of Windows 8 and the whole “Modern UI” paradigm coming to the fore.

[@waterslidexplorer]

I have been looking for a KZbin channel about retro PCs for years, and I finally found it! Great!

[@Zizzily]

I guess "Hot Dog Stand" was a Windows 3.1 exclusive.

[@LGR]

It was indeed

[@ByteSizeThoughts]

Man, I particularly love these '486' LGR things :) I find them most satisfying and agreeable. Being in Australia its a treat to wake up on a Saturday morning to a new video.

[@dmtien]

You should send off the registration cards to see what will happen...

[@gooberboy69420]

Good idea!

[@saleendriver]

Ah memories. I am so glad I stumbled upon this channel. Takes me back to better times in my life, simpler times in our society, and a more adventurous time in computing.

[@bean_bttf3]

I LOVE Windows installs!!!

[@keithbrown7685]

I like them, only if they went well... if they went well.

[@juselara02]

You look so genuinely excited by all this that I started to feel really amazed too

[@edeggermont]

I like the striptease bar music in the background while watching the unboxing ritual

[@porklaser]

More great nostalgia trips from LGR. Thanks! If you really want to go down the old windows rabbit hole when you move on to 3.1/3.11, perhaps explore the differences between vanilla Windows and it's much improved cousin Windows for Workgroups. WfWG had great stability and 32bit file access, disk cache that really improved performance on good 486 hardware. There was also 32bit networking for which the product was developed for (In office environments) but that was rarely used on home computers. WfWG became popular for home computers late in the 3.1x era for being just an overall better version of windows. I just dug up the old home computer we had from that era from the parent's basement. Mid tower, 486 DX2/66, VLB Cirrus Logic Video and VLB disk controllers. 4 megs of memory. Came with WfWG 3.11. Gonna get the old girl back up and running.

[@AbsolutZer0-1C3]

"Quotes are cool." - LGR, 2018

[@onceever3097]

Woah! You're getting close to 1 mil LGR!

[@tammysilverwolf1085]

5100. . . Dammit, John, nobody's going to get that reference without google. What are you doing?! (Great video as always

[@Tehstroyer]

I guess Steins;Gate made it recognizable among weebs at least.

[@tammysilverwolf1085]

Very true, and man what a great series. :)

[@Jcvlasmesas]

Damn, I’m only 14 years old an I’ve been seeing this channel for about 3 years now. The best thing is that you’ve made me start collecting old computers and random stuff, I would love to speak with you and tell you about my whole collection and projects in mind XD

[@countraven8934]

An Unboxing of Windows 3.0... It can't get anymore LGR.

[@oozarusama]

most of the under 30's were born technologically but in those times sometimes we had to read the 600 pages was something completely new for us and we were very careful in using it.

[@MarkTheMorose]

1990, you say? I'd have been still using my Amiga 500, with two floppy drives and 1MB of RAM. 2 years hence, an Amiga 4000 with a 170MB hard drive takes its place. I didn't get a PC until late 94/early 95 as I recall. Pentium 75, 8MB of RAM, 500MB HDD, DOS 6.22, Windows 3.11, Soundblaster 16 and a CDROM drive. Happy times.

[@abadenoughdude300]

That's almost the same config as my 1st PC except I had a 850MB disk and no soundcard. It was excellent, worked perfect for like 8 years, with the only thing breaking was the CDROM, and I was driving the machine hard. Happy times indeed.

[@Azuris190]

Hehe "I used" a C64, well my father used it, i was 2 years old and startet playing a little bit on them :) It tool some years, until we've got our first PC with win 3.1.

[@thedungeondelver]

Clint, I gotta admit, yours are the videos I just thumbs up even before they make it into the 1st minute.

[@dragon__blades]

You should read the entire windows manual on camera just for the lols.

[@toymachine4253]

They should put that on Audible.

[@kh-ro5su]

dragon_blade in the duke voice, no less

[@simontay4851]

That would take months.

[@keithbrown7685]

I've got months. : )

[@magickmarck]

LGR you always do good things for my mood. Appreciate the videos and your demeanor. Thanks!

[@joshsamuelson1793]

The huge stack of disks is cool. At the same time could you imagine installing a modern game with them? Lol

[@MaddTheSane]

Considering that most AAA computer games nowadays are multiple GBs big, You could recreate that experience by backing them up onto DVDs and installing from there.

[@hblaub]

My experience with less then 6 MBit: See big AAA game on Steam with free weekend, click on it, wait for it to suck and extract some files... then countless hours watching download progress bars going up and down (depending on Steam servers)... then one hour before end, maybe start playing ;-)

[@hblaub]

Or: Buy that great game finally getting cheaper on two DVDs, install them completely, then register them online, then wait for some crap to load, then "Needs updating", see that more than whole game is downloaded again. --> floppy changing back in the old days = waiting for Internet loading rollercoaster today

[@LightTheUnicorn]

That background, colour scheme and wonderful woodgrain 486 combination absolutely made my day! So responsive and straightforward too, Windows 3.x is just lovely.

[@gaiaweylyn]

Any chance you could upload those Asymetrix Toolbook/DayBook demo disks somewhere? I don't see any 3.5/720 images of v1.0 in the usual places.

[@LGR]

Here ya go: archive.org/details/AsymetrixRuntimeToolBook

[@gaiaweylyn]

Awesome! Thanks!

[@Murdoch493]

Omg! I remember Forsythe Computers! I cannot remember what happened to them... I vaguely remember them in 1999....

[@HebaruSan]

I was going to suggest dual booting a Linux from the same period... but apparently that came out a year later!

[@w1ck3dz0d1ac]

The beginning of the unboxing was like one of those "ruin your day" ASMR videos. My sphincter tightened when you whipped out your box cutter like a pocket knife. Then the "fffff" as you dropped some of the documentation from the box. Always a good laugh listening to your nukem like voice dripping with reverence and sarcasm. Keep doing what you do. People are still shipping you with 8-bit guy and Techmoan.

[@westhornhill8284]

Please fill out and mail the registration stuff and see if you get a response.

[@LGR]

Tempting.

[@wolvenar]

LGR Maybe make a good copy of the registration papers and the try?

[@wolvenar]

That would make an interesting extra video. Would be amazing to see, IF there was a response.

[@Adamsnadler214]

8bit guy did it, the card just got returned

[@AlexAtGuilford]

Wes, I had that same thought. I suspect a "end of life" support letter.

[@alptigin5438]

The camera shake when you plop the manual down is so perfect.

[@3bepbe]

Yeeeaahhhhh

[@DanielM]

ЗВЕРЬЕ , и ты здесь? Круто, чо)

[@zguyofficial6206]

Yeah!

[@jackmilne9764]

I love seeing old technology used today great upload Jack from UK

[@HattmannenNilsson]

I miss proper manuals. Now a days it's just electronic manuals. If you're lucky you can actually get a proper manual as a PDF, but more likely than not, the PDF downloadables are just auto-generated from the on-line documentation that is perpetually in an inconsistently out-dated state. With that said, though, Microsoft's documentation is usually quite excellent. It's leaps and bounds above pretty much all other software developers these days.

[@hblaub]

For me, the manual of my home computer (I think it was an old XT machine) had a part about Basic which I read many times again and again while experimenting. Yeah, it was a time customers actually cared about manuals and chose one computer that brought a translated, well-thought one with it.

[@HattmannenNilsson]

I've got an old three-ring binder with the MS-DOS 3.2 User's Guide and Reference. That was a fantastic recourse for learning how useful DOS batch scripts can be. Now, of course, I use SS64's reference, but that manual was the thing that made me aware that batch scrips could be used for much more than just setting an environment variable before launching a programme. And I'm still learning just how sophisticated you can actually get with just a .cmd script and Windows' built-in command-line utilities. It's probably one of the most hands-on useful things I've ever learned that really is useful in my job.

[@rameynoodles152]

Honestly, I wouldn't care a bit if the manual is electronic only. All I care about is that the product ACTUALLY HAS a proper manual that tells you everything you would ever need to know. These days, the "manuals" are just a small pamphlet to tell you only the most basic of the basics, and it's usually in more than one language, so if it's 3 pages, then the actual manual is probably 1 page, translated into 2 other languages.

[@stridermt2k]

Man oh man this was cool to watch! I never had any experience with Windows 3.0 at all. My experience was a whole lotta DOS into windows 3.1...on a 286 BUT ANYWAY...

[@artisticsumo6381]

I was just wondering when a new 486 video was coming!

[@josuelservin2409]

Just lovely, I expect eagerly that update for some glorious sound 😁

[@jhostmusic]

Don't think you got that past me. I heard that Stein's Gate reference!

[@SpeedySPCFan]

I was just about to comment on it too but you beat me to it. That reference was veeeery subtle

[@gregorymilks11]

I didn't realize Forsythe went back so far. They're a partner at the software company where I work.

[@michaelrosenstock9187]

5:41 nice hiss

[@stevenrais9360]

Haha, I found a sealed windows 3.0 install kit in my parents garage recently. Same set as this one. Loved the smell of the disks when opening the bag lol still functional as well

[@mogwopjr]

This bad boy needs After Dark installed on it. Screen savers - they save screens!

[@catpersimmon7011]

I owned an ALR Powerflex SL back in the day. It was a really great machine. All of its hardware was on-board, including on-board graphics (WD Paradise) with 4 DIP sockets for RAM chips, which could be upgraded to 1MB. The CPU was also mounted on a daugherboard which could be swapped between 486 and 386 models. I had a 486SX20 in mine. It had a single ISA slot that had a riser plugged into it to support 3 expansion cards. All in a really slim case (less than 4 inches high) I highly recommend looking out for one of those.

[@laharl2k]

LGR confirmed SERN mercenary

[@mebradhen]

He's FB

[@stillnotscaredofspiders]

Within the first minute you've made me realise that my sister turns 28 this year, and suddenly I have no idea how she managed to be in her late 20s.

[@janopd5026]

I have a question: How did software development on DOS and old Windows look? I know how it was in the C64 days (line editor) and I obviously know how it works today, but I have no idea how it looked in the DOS era. Could you maybe look into that, please?

[@osgrov]

You had both kinds, really. I used Borland C++ which had an IDE. It was quite neat, I enjoyed that. Mostly I used the Watcom C/C++ compiler though, because it was just more heavy metal. Those are the programs you see that uses that DOS/4GW extender (so you could run 32-bit code with full memory access in DOS). This was bundled free with Watcom, and it worked very well. :) I forgot the name of the editor I used though, but from the mid-90s something I've been a big fan of UltraEdit.

[@ZiggyTheHamster]

Back then, I wrote apps in Visual Basic. Some of my current coworkers were using Delphi back then. This would have been right on the precipice of the 32 bit era. In the 286/386 era, people would have been using various C++ IDEs or QuickBasic (not QBASIC).

[@shroomie108]

I was gonna say visual basic or c++ mostly c++ if memory serves me right. In windows 3.1 or 95 days i was such a nerd in school i almost took classes at compusa to learn to program c++ , but i didnt. I only taught myself to build computers and than html but i am thinking of learning to program.

[@heyyitsultima]

DOS development also could consist of assembly, I believe most early DOS programs were written this way until more standardized languages came out. Considering how long DOS ran, there are a lot of different ways people got their workloads done in it and it's honestly one of the most impressive OS's to me because of how long it was able to run while still remaining exceedingly simple in design.

[@DisplacedGamers]

Most of the responses have already mentioned it, but check out Turbo/Borland C++ for DOS, Turbo Pascal, and even QuickBasic 4.5. The real estate for those development environments was quite small. You could double your line count from 25 to 50 but had to weigh it against the fact you might be using a 13" monitor. Those were different times

[@metfan4l]

This was delightful to watch :)

[@Myspinex3]

Triple M you watch lgr too?!

[@superdarly1577]

Hey Clint do you ever send in the registration cards for companies that are still around? Someone might get a laugh at getting a registration for Win 3.0

[@mvl71]

SuperDarly You might even get a free upgrade to Windows 10!

[@kamoodle5]

When you showed SkiFree and Chip's Challenge, nostalgia hit the fan for me. Rodent's Revenge and Taipei were my most favorite games. I can only recall playing them on other people's computers as I didn't own a Windows older than 95, and even that didn't have Hover. -.-

[@cheaterman49]

No, this is not "absurd" documentation. This is how each and every operating system should be documented for people who don't know how to use a computer. This is a fantastic effort, I didn't know Microsoft was so respectable back in the early nineties! I guess Ballmer is to blame for most of the crap that we got afterwards, hehe.

[@douglascouchot3430]

I agree, but then book stores like Barnes@Noble and third party guys wouldn't make $20 - 30 bucks a pop selling the same information we used to get in the box.

[@SwissArmyTin]

Oh man, you're living the dream, my dude. I have a sealed OEM copy of 3.1 and several sealed OS/2s waiting for the day to be unleashed on a fresh vintage machine...if only, if only...

[@adamz.9275]

_Jazz for your soul_

[@KzintiCV]

Oh man those few moments of Toolbook brought back so many memories of Hypercard on my Mac. Good stuff.