"I'll cut your mic!" Highlights from a lively small party hustings debate | LBC

As we enter election week, William Clouston (Social Democratic Party), Clive Heemskerk (Trade Unionist and Socialist Coalition), Hoz Shafiei (Workers Party of Britain), and David Kurten (Heritage Party) join Iain Dale for a hustings debate.
0.00 Party introductions and main policies
8:02 The panellists debate the Russia-Ukraine war
17:24 The panellists debate LGBTQ+ rights
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[@blindpanda6211]

Ian seems really bitter here, still stinging from the fact that he had to withdraw as a Tory candidate when a recording of him came out talking badly of his constituency

[@ru76224]

He's never had any integrity.

[@multifandom4274]

This is supposed to be a talk show but the presenters won't listen to anything against uk usa Israel very one sided

[@JohnCox-ut3cv]

“You are an absolute disgrace!” Not the role of a moderator. Especially, not one with such failed Tory baggage. The majority of people know that Dale is the disgrace.

[@jujitsujew23]

they are both a disgrace...

[@robred19]

After this, you get to understand why they are 'small parties' .

[@richardplatt4245]

Small parties for small minds.

[@Nova2Yung]

spot on , its like Iain dale is versing 4 crackheads

[@simac3880]

Exactly what I was thinking. Fringe parties with fringe opinions

[@simac3880]

@@Nova2Yung Ha ha. Nicely put

[@Nova2Yung]

@@simac3880 it seems their 4 combined braincells were all put into a box to fight each other 😂

[@sulaak]

The LBC moderate (Iain Dale) was angry with David Kurten (Heritage Party) because he said he only supported marriage between a man and a woman. Iain Dale is married to a man and would have taken offence to David Kurten's political policy.

[@jackendean5368]

He was angry with him before that when he was a putin apologist

[@stephenhill545]

It is pretty offensive.

[@INCREASE.THE.PEACE.]

I wonder what his view on being born a woman in a man's body? 😮

[@Deano-vl4bv]

Tunbridge Wells took offence to Dale when he said was a dump...

[@user-zx4cp6kz4b]

​@@PLl-jr8xi❤👌

[@gretareinarsson7461]

How lucky UK is that these parties are on the fringes

[@jeffsimon9594]

Yes the status quo has worked so well for us all this century 🙄

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Yes, because things are going so well. Lol

[@jamesarnold7253]

​@jeffsimon9594 the heritage party guy is so status quo that the current status quo seems radical to him. He wants us to live in the 1950s

[@riccidolan]

@@jeffsimon9594 Imagine what the freaks on the panel would have done.

[@jeffsimon9594]

@@jamesarnold7253 You say that like it's a bad thing? It was a time of unparalleled peace, prosperity and innovation. Fact.

[@quique2886]

Bad moderator. He should let candidates speak on this issues. He should only ask where their information is coming from. I mean both who kind of support Putin could be Putin plants.

[@redeyegooner]

Q). How do you keep Israel's actions in Gaza out of the news? A). Call a snap election.

[@JamesMurphy1984]

That wasn’t the reason Rishi Sunak called an election though was it?!

[@PLl-jr8xi]

Lol. Yeah. Because it matters to the Tories that much.. 😂😂

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Shhhhhh! LBC won't want that mentioned. 😉😉

[@LeeKnight22]

The presenter is a disgraceful 2 persons on the panel disagree with the presenter but he doesn't like it.

[@blindpanda6211]

He was supposed to run as a Tory but had to back out when he was exposed for insulting his constituency, left him obviously bitter

[@toadintheh0le]

Because they are wrong. Disgraceful Putin apologists

[@sofajockeyUK]

Don't think LBC will be talking to the lunatic fringe again in a hurry.

[@metalthrashingmatt]

What a car crash...

[@davidbettney785]

The SDP with William Clouston, will be a force in the future. Very level headed, and professional.

[@geoffbreen2386]

Hoz is a shining light in this shambolic discussion.

[@DeXdAA]

What a mess.....

[@jujutrini8412]

All the debates should have been like this!

[@BobbySinghLFC]

Naive Ian Dale, he'll soon come to the realisation. Like he did with the Tories

[@rothwellaudio]

I'm not sure he's smart enough to come to any realisation.

[@NickRothman1980]

Thank Christ these headbangers are in irrelevant parties........

[@d-rex8223]

Far left and far right agree with each other (and Putin) on Ukraine, what a surprise.

[@Khalkara]

Wrong, you cannot arrive at pro-Putin advocacy through leftist means. It is in fact mutually exclusive with leftism to be so.

[@alexanderscottrell8627]

I agree that Putin is the lunatic and Ukraine has defended themselves from invasion but massively insulting the panel is not what a moderator should be doing

[@sulaak]

The LBC moderate (Iain Dale) was angry with David Kurten (Heritage Party) because he said he only supported marriage between a man and a woman. Iain Dale is married to a man and would have taken offence to David Kurten's political policy.

[@jogreeen]

@@sulaak typical right winger.

[@atlasgabriel5461]

If the panel is as mad as a bag of frogs it’s perfectly reasonable to point out that they’re as mad as a bag of frogs….

[@blindpanda6211]

Ian is angry he had to come back to be on the radio after he had to drop out of the election because he was exposed for bad mouthing his constituency

[@mrdaveythebaby]

I think there's a limit to what a moderator can let people get away with saying without challenging them, especiallybas it is his platform they are using.

[@supersaintchristophe337]

Criticism of Putin apologist propaganda by err western media propaganda. Any reasonable analysis which rightly intimates that there was an inevitability of Putin's reaction to what was happening in Ukraine is seen as supporting him. It is not it is simply expressing reality and I'm not surprised Dale does not want to understand this. As usual his treatment of those he does not agree with was appalling.

[@jamesarnold7253]

Ukraine and other countries have the freedom to apply for whatever international body they want. Russia and it seems this guy want to remove that freedom because it makes their crazy neighbour angry

[@milesnixon9554]

Appalling as a moderator, but enormously generous also.

[@ProgZombie]

Gentleman from TUSC carried himself well throughout this.

[@kingbeelee8180]

'highlights' - you know its gonna be juicy when the highlights are half an hour

[@beandinner1262]

Regardless of how you feel about these parties, this is terrible moderation by Ian.

[@AM-lc7ke]

The SDP is much better than this panel

[@Duffers782]

Poor moderation, a moderator is there to facilitate the debate, NOT to disagree and then shut down a valid opinion, even if it appears barking mad, they are still entitled to it!

[@reecekennedy8528]

The problem is, David would not stop talking - debate isn't just one person ranting over to everybody else. It shows a small mind and weak argument when you don't allow people the chance to challenge you.

[@bobcassidy201]

​@@reecekennedy8528to be fair he only started interrupting like that once Dale went off, Kurten probably thought at that point Dale would not give him any more chances to speak.

[@reecekennedy8528]

@@bobcassidy201 How is that your take? Ian is the moderator of the debate, he can and should stop speakers when they need to be challenged. Kurten said something ridiculous and was rightly brought up on it, instead he continued to harp on like an idiot.

[@bobcassidy201]

@@reecekennedy8528 one on one interview on the show, I would agree with you, but this was meant to be a "hustings" with Dale moderating. Wasn't the time to go off like that.

[@ianrowan1714]

I can see why they're fringe parties 🤔

[@BuNu7]

Agree with the two gentlemen on Ukraine. Look how wrong we were on Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya

[@stephenhill545]

The heritage guy says exactly what Putin says in every way, on every subject. It's pretty clear what Ukranians are fighting for.

[@jeffsimon9594]

Yes the NWO

[@evolassunglasses4673]

Ukraine destroyed ITSELF with the Western/ NeoCon/ Victoria Nuland backed coup against the then ELECTED government of Ukraine in 2014. 14,000 dead BEFORE the invasion. This is just another NeoCon disaster like Syria Libya Iraq and Afghanistan. We need negotiations and diplomacy BACK

[@bristolsonic]

They're fighting for BlackRock who now owns most of Ukraine.

[@waynetables6414]

If Putin agreed with you, you would have to change everything you believed because it would be considered Russian propaganda. That’s what happens to people who care about optics and team sports than what is objectively correct

[@suzy7726]

George Galloway 😂

[@purpledeflector904]

He’s smokin’ hot and you know it

[@VPhantom-rf3qo]

The takeaway is the SDP are the most sensible party and are definitely a party you should vote for if you have the option in your constituency

[@keithpanton7486]

Imagine thinking kids are better off in the social care system, than with loving parents. Because you are so obsessed with men kissing.

[@davidbeckham]

These people are insane

[@jeffsimon9594]

That is not an argument

[@jillallan8985]

Talking and communication is the key.

[@jca111]

"You're a disgrace" from Iain!! I didn't like what the Heritage guy was saying either, but a moderator should NEVER be saying that. Iain has become awful after his failure as a Tory candidate.

[@Ozzy1984_]

He's a host not a moderator. It's a political opinion show and he's sharing his views too. Nothing wrong at all.

[@sulaak]

@@Ozzy1984_ It is a hustings debate; hence, he is supposed to moderate the political parties debate. Iain Dale got too personal in the debate. I am a big fan of Iain Dale and enjoy listening to his show. His views on Russia and LGBTQ+ should be kept to himself.

[@jca111]

@@Ozzy1984_ The title says "hustings debate" not "political opinion show". He is the chair.

[@Jourifouler]

This is why you dont invite the loons on

[@lookandlisten5740]

It's Ian Dales show so he has to be there.

[@jillallan8985]

I wanted to hear their views on Gazza

[@redlightmax]

11:35 David Kurten: "No, that's an absolute insult." Iain Dale: "It was meant to be." Can we have a debate with just these two?

[@bobcassidy201]

The whole segment was a really interesting discussion, all of the reps were respectful, but Dale killed the vibe by going off on Kurten for his views, which are ultimately just that, his views. Should save the outrage for his own monologue segments.

[@Gajus_Julius]

Why even invite someone if you will derail the conversation and talk nonsense?

[@joelboy19]

Wow the social conservative dropping truth about Ukraines politics is brilliant...unsettled the matrix, out came the agents.

[@FRU.No.1]

matrix? what are you 12? grow up

[@joelboy19]

@@FRU.No.1 The matrix must be defended at all costs.

[@Polemarchos]

These people are mad as doornails.

[@redeyegooner]

The SDP would have so much more support if people knew they existed and knew what they stand for.

[@thedeadmoneyallstars]

Horseshoe theory in action. Did LBC learn nothing about platforming fringe views without context from actual experts highlighted as such?

[@petertownley7296]

prime examples why these baffoons will never be taken serious at all & cost the country dear

[@ADHDVLOGS]

Small parties for small minds. Reform Proxy parties.

[@cheikantadiop]

... And what about the PALESTINIANS ? Hippocracy!

[@jamesvoss3482]

The Heritage guy is a Putin poodle!!!

[@31Blaize]

I've seen comments from the Heritage Party on quite a lot of vids from a few months ago and they always came across as rather unhinged.

[@crashnburnband]

@@31Blaize Yes they would do if you're insane.

[@jeffsimon9594]

"Everyone I don't like is a Russian Bot"

[@evolassunglasses4673]

​@@31Blaize they want Peace not another NeoCon war disaster.

[@metalthrashingmatt]

​@@jeffsimon9594 not when its actually true..

[@joelboy19]

THIS IS THE BEST SHOW EVER

[@nicksmith1415]

Socially conservative seems to be a new way of saying far right

[@bobcassidy201]

Definitely feels like the term has been co-opted by some, but I dont think Clouston (who used the term in this vid) is one of them, cant think of any SDP policies that would be far right

[@keithbrandon3660]

Kuerten is absolutely spot on about ukraine. Dale just cant handle the truth and has no right to shut these men down.

[@tomcross3000]

heritage party and wpb are a disgrace here. hope they lose everything and make way for candidates who actually reflect what's real and present in the community. Slightly redeemed for Hoz towards the end, but omg the rest is tripe.

[@msredskin55]

Hoz and the Heritage guys speaking truth , Dale can't handle it

[@johnnybgood5836]

Baldie showed himself up as a propaganda dictator masquerading as an objective observer....should be fired ...

[@metalthrashingmatt]

He's not an objective observer, it's an opinion based radio channel and show, is chuck berry big in Russia?

[@hsarrette]

Is this real life?

[@Lonniejockstrap]

Iain Dale is the one who ought to be ashamed of himself. Refusing to accept the facts behind the reality of the Russian-Ukraine war and then attempting to undermine people who are explaining the events behind the invasion is either massively naive or another interviewer who is afraid of losing their job if they don't stand up against the lies and distortions.

[@tomcross3000]

they aren't the events, they are pro russia lies.

[@susanb4816]

Pretty clear why they are small parties; their small minds keep them boxed in

[@pokemon1996ism]

Extremely based

[@tendesai1340]

Ian Dale, shame on you,

[@HuskyGacha]

Where are their tinfoil hats

[@jeffsimon9594]

🥱

[@relaxedXgen]

iane ‘i’d never vate labour’ dale. his pronunciation. cares nothing for anything else than his cushy lifestyle. a horrible man that will ignore poverty, the failings of privatisation and any form of corruption as long as he is doing swimmingly.

[@emanuel1940]

Heritage bloke says he supported brexit and national sovereignty, where's your support for Ukraine's sovereignty?

[@user-pw5ls9ti2j]

You really think the globalists, running the west, are supporting Zelensky to defend Ukrainians in their homeland? 😂😂😂

[@jameshart3879]

Won't get paid if he doesn't do his job

[@brothercaleb]

Ian in alternative reality. 😅

[@Deano-vl4bv]

MP Dale...

[@googoo554]

Only watched this because the great David Kurten was on. He has been there from the start standing up for our freedoms.

[@evolassunglasses4673]

David is correct. Follow the data. Kids need a mum and dad.

[@plym1969]

Can the straight people stop getting divorced then?

[@metalthrashingmatt]

Wrong.. and provably wrong.

[@milesnixon9554]

"I am not a Putin apologist" lol.

[@davidmorrison6761]

Iain dale is just a clown

[@paulmcneill581]

Ian Dale gets hit with the truth about the Ukraine war and can’t understand it what a total clown.

[@ldorrill]

Iain is far from intelligent

[@TomIves-KingstonWorkshop-]

Dale schooled on his own show LOL

[@jujitsujew23]

David and Hoz may as well work for Russia Today

[@Michael-yu9ix]

I thought this programme was about having conversations not cutting them off...😂

[@thehandseesall]

Anyone who calmly or proudly says that they supported Brexit is a bit moronic

[@harrygeorge5848]

These people are nuts

[@jeffsimon9594]

That is not an argument

[@Khalkara]

"I'm not a putin apologist, now let me repeat word for word russian propaganda"

[@gragor11]

Which part was propaganda? Take all the space you need to refute his argument.

[@Khalkara]

@@gragor11 1) That there was a coup in 2014 in Ukraine. 2) That Americans/Boris Johnson/everyone else directly stopped a peace deal from being reached 3) That the west is money laundering the military industrial complex. Do you want me to list more? Its pretty much everything that comes out of these peoples mouths.

[@Khalkara]

@@gragor11 First reply was deleted, not sure why. But these points are propaganda: 1) There was a coup in 2014 in Ukraine 2) The west directly stopped a peace deal from happening 3) The west is just fueling the military industrial complex

[@Khalkara]

@@gragor11 My reply keeps getting deleted, not sure why. But these points are propaganda: 1) There was a c0up in 2014 in Ukraine 2) The west directly stopped a peace deal from happening 3) The west is just fueling the military industrial complex

[@Khalkara]

@@gragor11 My reply keeps getting deleted, not sure why. But these points are propaganda: 1) There was a coup in Ukraine 2) The west directly stopped a peace deal from happening 3) The west is just fueling the MIC

[@rhettusferrari8942]

Some democracy. LBC your a sham. Well done Mr Kurtan- your an amazing man

[@Duke-qr2jj]

David Kurten (Heritage Party) speaks facts about Ukraine war

[@MrYodyn]

DAVID FOR PM! Congratulation David for keeping your ground and defending real British - Christian values

[@stephenhill545]

You don't know many British people.

[@mikelife7072]

Lol

[@jamesarnold7253]

Can't you keep that kind of stuff in your churches?

[@MrYodyn]

@@jamesarnold7253 Stop crying spoil babe

[@user-qk9uw3wj4r]

Russia invaded Ukrain to stop NATO placing missiles on the Russian border, the west provoked this situation.

[@milesnixon9554]

This is pure propaganda. Missiles in Ukraine is not even relevant, not since the 1960's.

[@hollyd8989]

If you're thick enough to belive that go ahead

[@MubarakMohamed-i8h]

Heritage party guy is a Legend

[@JAKKAJA]

David kurten is speaking facts !!!!

[@AndreasKlanzer2384]

Arguments from the moderator: “Wow”, “you’re a disgrace”, “I’m telling you what every listener thinks” . Brilliant arguments

[@jamesarnold7253]

All the moderator does is let the guests know what the listeners are texting in. He did that very well

[@AndreasKlanzer2384]

@@jamesarnold7253 no he didn’t. He said let me tell you what “everyone listening is saying”! That’s absurd, he can’t speak for every listener. In Russia his response was “wow” “we may as well have Putin sitting there”. That’s not an argument. That’s ad hominem. He offered no counter argument. Pathetic

[@metalthrashingmatt]

@@AndreasKlanzer2384 wrong comrade.

[@tenerremzi9202]

Ian you are wrong, I thought you were more intelligent then that, you've show yourself to be very single minded with what the real reason why there is a war in the Ukraine, one word NATO.

[@Pearset]

I dont often agree with Ian Dale but i do here.

[@stephenhill545]

Yeah, the extremes are pretty deranged.

[@Nova2Yung]

@@Pearset he seemed like the moderate guy in a mental institution, just at the wrong place at the wrong time 😂😂😂

[@sophierobertson7938]

​@@stephenhill545bet your vaccinated aren't you because clearly you believe in propaganda and not facts as that's what David was speaking

[@JohnCox-ut3cv]

“You are an absolute disgrace!” Not the role of a moderator. Especially, not one with such failed Tory baggage. The majority of people know that Dale is the disgrace.