Latest MRP poll shows 'seismic destruction' of Tory Party | LBC analysis

'The outcome of the election was determined in Autumn 2022.'
Tory peer Philip Hammond tells Andrew Marr that Liz Truss' government was the 'final straw' for the public.
A groundbreaking General Election poll indicates that on July 4, the Conservative Party could fall to third place behind the Liberal Democrats, resulting in a major defeat that would leave them unable to form the official opposition in Parliament.
According to a survey of 20,000 voters conducted by Find Out Now and Electoral Calculus, the Tories are projected to drop to just 60 seats, a decrease of 305 seats from their 2019 results.
Andrew Marr speaks to Tory peer Philip Hammond about the performance of his party.
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[@ivorthomas8168]

Wasn't Mr Hammond part of the last decade of Tory austerity?

[@jasoncooper9391]

Yes

[@geraldbutler5484]

@@jasoncooper9391Repeat: why is this privileged ponce a Lord?

[@chatham43]

@ivor Or balancing the books...anyway keep the red flag flying!

[@jasoncooper9391]

@@chatham43 3 Trillion in debt 😃😃

[@user-rk9it9hz6g]

"Balanci g the books" after we bailed out his criminal friends in the banks

[@johnrussell3961]

So the failing Tories want to tell us when the failing started?. In started in 2010 .

[@kevin9sc]

It started in 1979!

[@kanedNunable]

maggie really. bringing in neo liberal economics.

[@advocate1563]

It stsrtrd in 2008 with the GFC. And not a single banker jailed. They distract us with woke capitalism because the OCCUPY movement was the right direction of travel.

[@chatham43]

@john So only Labour to go...and finally this country might get somewhere.😊

[@petefl1818]

@@kevin9sc No, it started in 1979 with Margaret Thacher, but you're probably too young to know that.

[@latheofheaven1017]

Hammond applauds the Labour Party acknowledging growth is important. But doesn't acknowledge we had twelve years of solid growth under a Labour government, and nearly F.A. under the subsequent 14 years of Tory rule. Which party has really understood that growth is important, Hammond? The one that delivered when in power, or the one that didn't?

[@dddddbbb]

It turns out the austerity for the masses but hand outs for the rich / trickle down economics didn't really work for growth at all huh! ;)

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

@@dddddbbb Even boring Biden has got that right!!!!!

[@JupiterThunder]

Er...the one that didn't?

[@BillyBobJoeSnr]

​@@dddddbbbOddly Reagan and Thatcher proved that trickle down economic policies would never work.

[@dragonfly6908]

​@@ArtyFactual_IntelligenceApparently the American debt pile stands at over $33 trillion.

[@corintaylor-salter2059]

Neither Marr nor Hammond understand economics in any terms other than preserving the wealth of the top 5%. Both a disgrace to humanity.

[@paulwebster4499]

Absolutely 100% correct sir. However, is Racheal Reeves really an Osbourneite that's the danger. Let's not forget, that the true growth of the UK happened in the 50s and the 60s under Keynesian economics, lasie fair was created by those who wanted more of want things not need things. apologies for my poor gramer

[@user-zc4yd9ss7h]

Growth? 40 consecutive quarters of uninterrupted growth under Blair. Austerity followed by chaos and stagnation under Tories.

[@deco2132]

In reality the whole world went through a technological and economic boom during the early 90's mainly due to the internet explosion - it didnt matter what type of government developed countries had (left, centre or right) all did well economically. John Major would have most likely the same results.

[@ELELEL0895]

It was a direct comparison to the Corbyn led Labour Party.

[@wrestlingp]

Yea but apparently Labour bankrupt the country and everyone believed it 🙄

[@shanecopner7827]

Spot on my friend vote labour

[@davidmiles9016]

Seem to recall the bank crash which caused austerity was under labour, Blair and brown.

[@paulhurt71]

They lost faith because of Boris Johnson and Rishi Snake.

[@ScottishJazzman]

But not Truss? 🤨

[@ronj9910]

​@@ScottishJazzmanAnd "lettuce" liz.

[@Yorci62]

Boris Johnson had the world at his feet, but could not control a bickering Conservative party hence the brand became ruined. To be a little bit fair to Rishi Sunak, he took over a very rotten barrel of apples. Though RIshi had 18 months to try to fix it, he was a lame duck, and was never going to be strong enough to stand up to the civil service for fear of being called a bully. So he was never going to have much of a chance. You watch, the similar will happen with Labour given the size of the expected majority. Sadly we will have them for 5-10 years.

[@lcg8220]

And, you know, the reality of the last 14 years making all our lives worse except the most well-off, whose wealth grew.

[@kanedNunable]

@@ScottishJazzman truss came after.

[@jabruna]

This guy has no credibility

[@chatham43]

@jabby But you do Mr Nobody?

[@paulanderson7338]

You are joking, he was one of those kicked out by the lunatic Johnson, the Conservatives wouldn't be in the dire position they are if him and more like him were still running the party, he isn't dynamic, but has an intellect and credibility far above 99% of anyone in power now.

[@desmondroberts6034]

How condescending, especially as Labour Govts have presided over better growth and lower deficits, more public investments than seen under Conservative Govts.

[@inthecanman]

you have a short memory and that’s not true

[@youtubewatcher2]

@@inthecanman provide some stats comparing Blair/Brown to Cameron - Sunak

[@inthecanman]

@@youtubewatcher2 why? Don’t you remember the “there’s no money left”note? When Thatcher came into power after the previous Labour government we had been to the IMF to borrow money

[@youtubewatcher2]

@@inthecanman last 30 years mate. You can adore the Maggie all you want. She has no more to do with modern Tories than Reagn has to do with Trumpian GOP.

[@eddiecalderone]

@@youtubewatcher2 You are probably a corbyn supporter

[@IAN-DIXON..]

Every leader these clowns have had has been a hopeless puppet.

[@Beefeater1234]

Hammond would never admit that the tories were terrible, no excuses .

[@richardruff8712]

Total deniability .... The one thing that the Tories all have in common....

[@patrickhowell5578]

Center right, they have no center right! Hes deluded 😂

[@Boghopper9999]

I think the centre right mostly works in podcasting these days; not many of them actually working as MP's any more (since the Johnson purge in 2019)

[@gerardmackay8909]

Another one who acknowledges how dire they’ve been but pleads for enough support to be the Opposition. Nope I think Ed Davey would be perfect for that role, I’m not confident it will happen but it’s delicious to imagine it just might.

[@FizzzieCat]

Ed Davey wasn't especially diligent with the Post Office when complaints started to build.

[@gerardmackay8909]

@@FizzzieCat gaslighting, every minister in that role was hoodwinked by Paula Vennels assurances that the software was totally fit for purpose. Davey was one of many to be briefed thus. That smear has the same lack of legs as Starmer’s curry and Rayner’s house sale.

[@Boghopper9999]

Agree with previous poster; Davey is one of the people who held that post who is least to blame as there was just not that much talk about it at that point , but in the following years, there had been literally years of revelations coming out from Computer Weekly and Private Eye. Not blameless, but definitely not the most to blame

[@FizzzieCat]

@@gerardmackay8909 Alan Bates’s letter to Ed Davey was probably the most powerful message I read from the whole affair; to say that he was least to blame is BS. All Bates did was ask for a meeting, and Ed initially refused him. That is negligence. Thankfully, there were other politicians who were more inquisitive. The JFSA had almost 100 members at the time of the letter.

[@gerardmackay8909]

@@FizzzieCat hindsight is a wonderful thing. The villain of this piece is Paula Vennels I’m not exonerating Davey over any other minor minister who at some point held that brief. He was no more and no less culpable. I’ve worked in government for decades and know how it works. Should he have been more curious? Maybe, but he was one of many who accepted the content of his brief and the Tory client press singling him out as if he was the villain of the piece, make me want to heave ( but what’s new there)

[@petefl1818]

Remember Philip Hammond was Chancellor of the Exchequer from 2016 to 2019, he was an important member for three of the 14 years of Conservative rule which has been so disastrous for the UK.

[@kristoffarrell6899]

Hammond failed us and he definitely is no sage

[@crayontom9687]

Smart. Blame it on someone else, thereby exonerating yourself. Nobody’s buying it though Phil. You did this

[@Human_Herbivore]

Not a single challenge to anything he said!

[@KevinMeeds]

To be fair it was more of a conversation about his opinions than an interrogation of a standard party hack.

[@Human_Herbivore]

@@KevinMeeds yeah, but it included claims about higher taxes under Labour from a representative of a party who has given us the highest tax burden in living memory

[@KevinMeeds]

@@Human_Herbivore True but I was more interested in what was drawn out of him about how disgraceful and disgustingly unfit for office Johnson was.

[@Human_Herbivore]

@@KevinMeeds OK, I just get frustrated at the lack of challenges which means more and more people hear it and, as we well know, critical thinking is less in use these days.

[@jonkayl9416]

Agreed

[@douglascoid4132]

Poor governance and ignoring the people.

[@willtricks9432]

They do not ignore the people they walk all over us , it's the Tory way.

[@Ology3121]

The sooner we scrap peerage and r soles like Hammond the better politics can become

[@chatham43]

@Ology Brilliant! Why didn't someone else think of that?

[@dawnmillar471]

I can assure you it was not Liz Truss.

[@kevinjackson6387]

I think you will find that was the end of the Tory’s ,the rot had set in before yes ,but she killed them off

[@chassetterfield9559]

And the interest on the National Borrowing, which the Tories have managed to treble during their 14 years, is fast becoming a significant slice of the pie chart of government expenditure.

[@chassetterfield9559]

@breamoreboy it's certainly not going to be a beneficial factor.

[@ukbloke28]

@breamoreboy I believe so. Labour regaining some financial propriety for the country may help us to get a better credit rating, especially if they can rebuild EU trade, which I think they will. As soon as we stop looking like a basket case 3rd world country, better credit rating = more cash freed up for infrastructure etc.

[@NY-in9uj]

The Tories brought in austerity to balance the books and have nigh on tripled the deficit, tanked public services and never balance one single year. Tax burden is the highest in a generation and he has the cheek to say Labour will increase taxes and borrow, at least it will go to fix services and not into the pockets friends, family and buying a lords seat...

[@DJFREDHEAD2010]

another posh toff...who doesnt understand how it is for a working person. GET THESE OUT OF POWER!!!!

[@alfching2499]

Lord Hammond for what Failure.£300 a session for sleeping in the House of Lords.

[@johnledward7177]

What nobody seems to talk about is that 'the centre' has shifted way to the right in the last 40 years and everything is worse.

[@phillipliggins1549]

You must be joking - the tories have shifted so far to the left they are almost holding hands with the far left within the Labour Party!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@sonofsomerset1695]

Youre joking, if it had done what you think we wouldnt have uncontrolled mass immigration would we, get a clue.

[@gdfggggg]

😂

[@johnrussell3961]

What was worse under Blair?

[@dh1380]

I dont think it has over all but it maybe has in terms of those who will actually most likely bother to vote

[@user-rk9it9hz6g]

In other words blame the elderly Once again, the party of personal responsibility is never to blame for the mess they and their neoliberal system have left

[@marktynan6820]

The elderly have already paid in so they are of no interest to him

[@Tom_murray89]

The tories are bad for growth

[@MrAkabane1]

Why do you need a centre-right Tory party when you've got a centre-right Labour party?

[@alr68]

The big lie is the growth isn't for the common person. The growth will be for those who already have everything. Growth = for the well off Redistribution = for the ripped off

[@johnrussell3961]

If we don’t grow in line with inflation , we don’t generate enough tax to cover the extra costs of things like the NHS., That’s we are now. Higher rates of tax , or lower quality of services .

[@timaustin2000]

​@@johnrussell3961from whom? Are we seriously saying there has been no growth for the 1%?

[@johnrussell3961]

@@timaustin2000 . I never said no growth. I said growth is lagging behind inflation.

[@Boghopper9999]

Growth is just growth; it can benefit either, depends on where the growth actually is (small business vs. Stocks and Shares)

[@stanclifford1437]

Hang on - Brexit, Boris, Cameron, May, Truss, in fighting, for their own issues, NI Protocol etc, etc - between them they have made the world look on in disbelief - hopefully, whoever succeeds them will regain some credibility and will put the interests of the Nation before petty personal interests.

[@seebarry4068]

It'll go better because the taxes will go towards public services rather than donors, millionaires and billionaires.

[@wendydevereux4375]

Boris had already killed any trust

[@lesliecarter4295]

Not Liz . It’s the 1922 committee that should get the blame…! Rank incompetence..!

[@davidgabb1736]

Austerity and brexit have got us into this mess !!!!

[@lesleybrookes5022]

The Tories are already a disaster, you don't understand the British public, we've had enough of you. Bring on Nigel, he speaks for us. It's having close ties with EU that's put us in this position. Let's get Brexit done e properly!!!

[@richmaniow]

The wealthiest households are now paying half the tax they did in the 50's,60's and 70's.. it's funny how that doesn't get mentioned either..

[@mrdanjames]

Another reference to a think tank with dubious funding. IFS or IPA, they’re all ambiguous and seem to always fall on not taxing the rich… wonder why?

[@InsightfulUndercurrents]

IFS isn’t one though, they are literally in a building next to my Uni and actually do reports that stop crazy policy’s like when the Osborn tried to cut £4bn in tax credit that would hit poor people the hardest.

[@SolarMumuns]

Thank you for that. Yes, the IFS is a notorious rightwing think tank so I'm surprised it is being treated as the gospel here

[@chatham43]

So you're not rich.

[@mrdanjames]

@@chatham43 very well off and happy to be taxed more.

[@kimbirch1202]

To propose tax cuts when public services have been cut to the bone is not only irresponsible, but shows total disrespect for the public.

[@rossleahy2150]

No interest in the woman on the street - out of date in classic Tory fashion

[@alancoates4531]

Vote Labour vote Tories out .

[@hollytalbot6695]

Vote Reform,Labour and Conservative out..

[@kanedNunable]

@@hollytalbot6695 lol. yeah swapping one rich boy right wing chancer for another, what a change eh? farage said he wants to be tory leader FFS.

[@awwasson]

Vote tactically, push the Tories into 3rd place.

[@royspilsbury]

Vote Reform uk Get um gone End of chat

[@MicheleLLOYD-bk2mt]

Labour essentially Tories now. You need to be what you USED TO BE.

[@dibblerd986]

David Cameron fought the election in 2010 on centralist issues....... then immediately went forwards with austerity when elected. This continued through the years with little to no growth, suppression of wages for NHS workers and public servants. Now we have the situation that trained nurses and doctors are leaving for Australia, Dubai and other countries where their skills are better paid for and working conditions make the NHS look like a workhouse. Public services are one their knees, councils going bust led by both main parties..... the result of cutting further and further government money to local authorities. Along with the broken services etc we now have the highest taxes since end of WW2...... 14 years of conservative rule has been a disaster for many.

[@mup_pet]

No, we need a Lib opposition, who'll be asking the pertinent questions, like rejoining, PR, the environment, state schools and the NHS (all issues the Tories don't give a flying F about).

[@tenforward7485]

That Hammond believes that a gradual increase in wages is more important to British people than the gradual destruction of British culture and demographics illuminates a man who lives divorced from his countrymen and the consequences of his decisions.

[@Mr.Haque01]

One of the reasons why the UK economy is so bad is foreign policy. Foreign policy gets a lot of attention and a lot of money is invested in it, but no leader pays attention to their Internal issues. It is a pity that the government always pays less attention to the position of working-class families. People who are living illegally in this country should be sent to their own country, not to Uganda. 👀😡

[@daveaustin1093]

Andrew, you consider yourself a journalist, why don’t you ever mention anything about political corruption, why don’t you mention anything about politicians taking BRIBES. why don’t you ever talk about the disaster we are facing in our supposedly democratic country because of corrupt politicians. Why don’t you ever mention the organisations who are bribing the Tories and now the Labour politicians. DO IT, SAY IT FOR THE SAKE OF THE COUNTRY. IF YOU DON’T, YOURE ALSO COMPLICIT IN THE CORRUPTION AND DESTRUCTION OF YOUR OWN COUNTRY. BE BRAVE AND DECENT ANDREW.

[@davidcoleman3661]

The Tory’s demise began with Brexit. On the conspiracy of silence do yo7 really expect parties to deliver bad news in a febrile and divisive election campaign?

[@isbestlizard]

I expect them to say what they will do and win a mandate to then do what they said and nothing else. Otherwise we don't live in a democracy, we live in an elected dictatorship.

[@isbestlizard]

Absolutely disgusted that Rishi sunak decided when he became PM that all of a sudden he was going to outlaw smoking. Um. No? You don't just decide as one person that that is now right for the country. You put it to the people to gain a mandate from them for it.

[@obscurazone]

See's a charlatan Tory being platformed and portrayed as a "serious" politician, clicks off immediately.

[@McRaeJim]

Phillip Hammond should suggest all Tories ( including himself) stop using the word PLAN! Rishi has made the word a joke to hear.

[@diverguy3556]

7:25 the tory tells us what the man on the streets wants - rising pay, better public service etc. He must have forgot to tell the Govt that.

[@AnythingMachine]

He seems to actually be clear sighted and know what he's talking about. I wonder if he was a better chancellor than I thought or if it's just because he's free to say what he actually knows now

[@Boghopper9999]

Most politicians are far more interesting when they are out of the game and not subject to the whips anymore; that's when you might actually get the truth

[@sarkybugger5009]

Now he's got a job for life in the HoL, he can say what he wants, be's still a tory underneath.

[@louisboylan7623]

He sounds convincing but some of his ideas have been refuted for many years now. The suggestion that workers rights is anti growth is incorrect, think about the strongest economies in Europe; Finland, Switzerland, Norway, Sweden, Germany - what do they all have? Extremely strong workers rights.

[@kevinsmarts9953]

@@louisboylan7623 Don't forget Ireland with the highest GDP per capita in the EU.

[@appalingbehaviour]

Hammond says Labour bash producers. Seems he's unfamiliar with corporation tax history.

[@ieyasumcbob]

Nobody seems to have thought of taxing the people with money

[@mariusb5150]

Bash the rich ... how's about reformulating that to: have the rich pay their fair share ... How come the journalist doesn't correct the man?

[@ProTantoQuid]

Just as balanced as you'd expect from a Tory who believes in cutting things

[@darrenhopkins6829]

Stop trying to pretend its not a uniparty.

[@wayneford2481]

Anything labour say will be lied about or taken by the torys as they said it first by the tory press , lying to the public in or out of the house of Parliament MUST BE PUNISHED BY LAW.

[@stevecallais1713]

how on earth did i click on this...just seeing their faces makes you depressed.

[@AndyWarpol]

Lord.... let's all listen to a lord. He knows best.

[@sbrown314]

How about inviting an impartial guest on the program to critique Labour. This is why people don't trust the media.

[@jonkayl9416]

Agreed

[@willtricks9432]

You have not watched enough. they do.

[@blazzz13]

About time. Go on the rags, Sky, even BBC and you won't find much willpower to critique the Tories by the Kuenssburgs et al.

[@quickclipsbyjmj]

I lost faith in the Conservatives under Thatcher.

[@eddiecalderone]

Then you are out of date

[@chatham43]

@quick Couldn't you sell your ex council property?😊

[@quickclipsbyjmj]

@chatham43 Couldn't get a council house, had to wait 14 years for one to become available.

[@richardruff8712]

So you think that Ted Heath was wonderful then ?

[@jcampbell145]

Liz truss 40 odd days😂😂😂😂 Don,t worry about the other 13 plus years🤥🤥🤥

[@alfching2499]

Don’t give overpaid MPs £4.000 pay Rises,there not worth it,give it too the NHS

[@nigelcard2028]

Reform party hits 13% ahead off conservatives and 7% ahead off Labour . Go Nigel Farage Go

[@dean8513]

No he does not know or see the British man on the street who’s way of life is being attacked

[@dereks1264]

Hammond rightly points out the REAL problem we're all facing --- the demographic crunch that's already happening. It's what all politicians should be most concerned about.

[@damianleah6744]

Johnson started this latest circus,Truss just turbo boosted this arrogant disastrous government, then Sunak put his clown shoes on and switched the after burners on to complete the job of political suicidal ideology .

[@chatham43]

@damian You obviously have no clue do you.

[@michmunroe.9196]

No they lost faith because Truss was voted in the Banks interfered and everyone knows Rishi was the establishments choice 🤨

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

Capitalism has not benefitted the working class except by crumbs from the table.

[@jonathankennedy1715]

We finally got rid of Abu Clawhammer and let in 500,000 dont-know-who-they-are's 😮😬 high security risk.

[@scottyk200]

Was nothing to do with Liz Truss. Was all to do with Johnson.

[@douglasfielder4621]

He's a Conservative! They want us to think that "they are all the same". Maybe we can fund stuff by recovering all the money that the Tories have pinched.

[@david-pb4bi]

If one side continues to lie and get away with it then telling the truth would be suicidal.

[@DrVictorVasconcelos]

The cringe in having to call someone a "Lord" 😅 "Here's recognition for when your ancesters pillaged for their boss, the top gangster in the land at the time".

[@keithdonnelly8636]

Think he's been isolated in the HoL. Also he was chancellor under May and I don't recall any moves on productivity or the flat lining economy...lots of revisionism.imo

[@davidtrim6093]

How can it be a creditable centre right opposition, when any remaining MP's are either raving Brexiters or at least sworn to maintain it.

[@suec6521]

The policy that dare not speak its name - raising taxes on the rich, corporations, financial services and capital gains.

[@LAD907]

Tories have always been dreadful but even more so since around 2013/14 people just wasn't paying attention compared to how they are now since the referendum

[@IMBlakeley]

Calls for closer cooperation with Europe. If only there were some multi country organisation...

[@trevordavies5486]

So I should accept the advise of the numpty who claimed we would be able to trade in the Single Market after Brexit.

[@powder-diver]

I crossed the bridge and left the Tories because of Johnson. Their support for Truss burnt that bridge down ….. there is no way back for me possibly ever but at least until all Tory ministers are replaced

[@davidjames2910]

Since 2019, 'sensible' and 'Conservative' don't go together. Labour look set to form a centre right government and the Conservative party would not be a centre right opposition but far right - if they are the opposition at all.

[@theshadowdirector]

The problem is either both sides reveal their full hands or neither do. There's no guarantee that, as soon as one party is fully transparent about their plans, the other won't just keep theirs hidden and then scare people with their opponent's policies.

[@lauracollins-sg2tq]

Jeez! This guy who was part of the fanatical austerity govt sounds very much like a sensible one!! 😱

[@kieran10202]

The tories' ability to deny reality verges on being a new religion. There has been no growth throughout this man's entire tenure, just overvaluation of traded property. When he talks about purchasing power being more important to people than immigration, he's really saying the british standard of living depends entirely on cheap imported labour, not investment or training or british people doing any work.

[@CampingNE]

Not one mention of reform .. interesting gaslighting ..

[@echonovember2037]

The Conservative government has had 13 years to get it right, and look at the condition of the NHS and the economy it's all going down hill. It's time for a new Labour government

[@charlespirate1]

Tories all still blaming each other

[@debbiegale9076]

The media, Farage and the Tories have a massive amount of blame in this We need immigration to cope with our aging society and low birthrate. .and we need a decent media that tells the truth re the tax needs to fund public services and Brexit.

[@Randomthom]

The past 10 years have seen a MASSIVE upward movement of wealth. There is literally one way for that wealth to come back down and that is taxation on the vastly wealthy.

[@ianworley8169]

It was over for the Tories long before Mad Truss. Brexit. Partygate. "Let the bodies pile high" and the VIP Lane. Truss was just the start of their death throes.

[@martinahardaker8739]

From Pitt to Sunak...all to blame 100%.

[@gretareinarsson7461]

Promises without warnings is the danger for Labour

[@lasttempoinparis]

- " _The Labour leader said he had his sights set on “a decade of national renewal”_ . - " _In Manchester on Thursday, K.Starmer promised a Labour government would deliver the highest sustained growth in the G7 group of wealthy nations by the end of its first term, but there was little detail_ " Political promises are a bit like making candy foils 😅

[@PhantomRaspberryBlower]

Both the centre right and the far right in this country have shown that they are unable to create a successful country. They have proved it beyond any reasonable doubt. The poor and the vulnerable of this country are suffering. Business is suffering, our children are suffering all because of the crocked incoherent policies (E.g voting against every brexit option) of the right. It is time the whole grounds of debate move to the left so that we can focus on having a happy fairer productive diverse society that is not robbed blind by a small elite. We do not NEED a right or centre right opposition they have lost the plot.

[@kanedNunable]

most sane people never had faith in the tories in the 1st place.

[@Deano-vl4bv]

Lord Hammond telling us how things should be done lol

[@nazirkazi2588]

Growth has limits. That's the biggest issue that no-one is addressing. The planet has literally been squeezed dry, and the consequences have already started to show, but they are going to be devastating. No amount of economic growth is going to help us then.

[@kierandallas4206]

Were they so concerned about the opposition in 2010? Nope

[@davidmason9490]

Hammond lauded Liz Truss not so long ago, telling people not to underestimate her ability. How he's changed his tune.

[@chrism6315]

Lord hammond stopped being chancellor in 2019. Its hard to see him now, 5 years later raising alarm bells about the finances of the country as anything other than partisan polotics. If he cared hed have been talking about this years ago.

[@gregevans8939]

Hammond must think we're all idiots ! Liz Truss was set up to fail... because she wasn't one of the "One nation Tories", she was selected by grassroots members who are true Conservatives... Hammond was a key player in the One Nation Tories.

[@sabinessmith3046]

Cumulative effect of all hapless leaders, hapless policies and hapless record in government. Let’s not scapegoat Liz she was just one of a bad bunch.

[@richardruff8712]

Not sure that HAPLESS is the right word. Try USELESS or NOT FIT FOR PURPOSE

[@stevefreary7449]

The Blair government was the best we have had in my life time !! Hardly heard anybody complain apart from going to war !! But economically it was spot on !!