Huw Edwards: Why So Lenient? | James O'Brien - The Whole Show

[@emesfion]

Margaret is just fantastic. What a resilient woman.

[@RichardHuffman]

Tremendous respect for Margaret and all of the other callers.

[@BeepBoos]

Thank you to James and all your callers 💞 So important to talk about this. Please don’t stop. And thank you for “sub human”. It’s better than some of the phrases I was using 💔

[@lennyrussell8954]

Thank you everyone for sharing your experiences, it was heart breaking to listen to.

[@Geeman782]

Lenient because of his partner’s in crime.The judicial system should be investigated

[@DaGoyDidGood]

👏

[@davidt5194]

Cathy's call was fkin heartbreaking. What a strong person she is.

[@davidt5194]

Margaret’s wasn’t easy either 😕

[@davidkelly499]

We don't have a justice system in the UK. If you are rich and/or connected you can get away with anything. Edwards should be rotting in a prison for several years. But he is free to get back to noncing. Whats worse is that people like myself who pay the licence fee funded his activities. Disgusting.

[@metallicamadsam]

First point valid. However its a little strawman equate the license fee and Edwards.

[@emesfion]

If 8 out of 10 people aren't sent to prison, then money or not, there isn't often a prison sentence attached.

[@davidkelly499]

@@metallicamadsam The license fee goes to the bbc, who pay Edwards, who then uses his pay to do what he did. Not exactly a leap.

[@davidkelly499]

@@emesfion That stat doesnt mean that wealthier people don't avoid prison time without any more information on it. For example, what if 80% of people who do this are wealthy? That changes that stat a little.

[@metallicamadsam]

@@davidkelly499 The bbc didnt employ him to commit crimes, he did that of his own accord.

[@tonyhughes4101]

Hard listen today 😢

[@garrieleepeck8753]

It's hard living at times been abused 45 years on

[@Justin_the_Analog_IC_architect]

Jesus H, this is very hard to listen to.

[@Wishing_you_peace]

I see the BBC stopped reporting Huw Edwards yesterday. Every other channel is in it today again.

[@stoptothamotion]

Margaret left me speechless. What a kind, aware woman

[@JBrown_Trivium]

The callers wrre incredible ❤

[@jacquelinemosforth8280]

They don’t get sent to prison because there is no space. Surely there can’t be any other reason behind it. Cathy’s story is astounding. I cannot believe that all the adults around her enabled this abuser. Not least her mother.

[@3rah356]

May be, behind close doors, elite classes are involved in this crime & therefore the law is kept lenient in a country. Rich man's loophole. May be !

[@alfgwahigain5544]

That quote from the little girl, asking if all girls do that with their daddies, is just gut-wrenching. It's shameful that more resources aren't put toward bringing pedos to justice, but then it's not surprising when we see over and over how those in power are personally involved in this awful stuff.

[@PizikSpaeth]

Bottom line is there isn't the money to imprison potentially hundreds of thousands of people. It was pure fluke that they caught the person who sent the images and even more lucky that the recipient was identified. It would be 10s of billions spent to imprison what are actually low risk individuals, and it's not like they would actually be rehabilitated.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

Thank you for this, but it is too much for me, even though I agree we must report.

[@TheLucanicLord]

Sometimes the media have a moral duty to report, and sometimes we have a moral duty to listen. Even if it's not fun for either.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

@@TheLucanicLord I agree, this is why I did listen for about 20 minutes. But it is too close to the bone due to what happened to one of my best friends. In case you think I am just looking away: I supported her during abaout 2 years of leagl proceedings, including financial support.

[@garrieleepeck8753]

Wow the caller taling about his mum the same thing its so hard when its been your own mother

[@gailforce]

Punishment versus prevention debate again. We're not ready as a culture to discuss how to approach predation. And so it will go on

[@emesfion]

I completely agree that prevention in any area is the most important step any community can make.

[@queenirmamay]

I can't believe we are here again. Jimmy Saville. Kids start putting kids and old people first safe guarding

[@DennisMoore664]

There's a very obvious way to handle child abuse that's been proven beyond a doubt, especially of this sort, but too many of us aren't willing to go there.

[@redhydra2871]

Forgive my ignorance, what would that be?

[@Deleted11100]

@@redhydra2871public linching perhaps? (Spelt wrong to bypass what words KZbin’s allows)

[@MportUK]

Wow, this was a very hard listen 😢 but we can't turn a blind eye & just turn off because it's hard ... So sorry if you have had to go though this 😢

[@michaelgriffiths5723]

I'd suggest it was so lenient because he's got a protected characteristic

[@maxpain5555]

Huw edwards is a "national treasure"

[@MartinLloyd-w1u]

Spilling the beans on other people

[@greamespens1460]

James when Huws story first broke you said it was a non story. Will LBC be sending you on a course

[@mickreaddin4979]

On any topic, as more information becomes available the ability to change one's mind increases.

[@greamespens1460]

@@mickreaddin4979 Do you recall him apologising and addressing that he made a mistake. If I made a mistake on this I apologise.

[@TheLucanicLord]

That was the other story, genius.

[@mickreaddin4979]

@@greamespens1460 There's no need for an apology... it was a separate story.

[@greamespens1460]

@@mickreaddin4979 my apology relates to if he had apologised then I owe an apology

[@lilibetfellinger8641]

Could it be there are highly paid experts who assist these people with sympathy seeking tactics?

[@rosiepalmer5885]

Sadiq Khan needs to focus on finding somewhere for homeless people, and stop concentrating on frivolous nonsense like the aesthetics of Oxford Street! It's obviously fine, because people keep going😐

[@MrWhitmen1981]

We need recall laws for judges. Before they left let their mates off the hook again and again.

[@π11]

@@MrWhitmen1981 Huw Edwards isn't a leftist. Hate to break it to you, most people who get exposed for this are far right.

[@robjustaguy]

Nothing to do with the prison system, overcrowding or anything else prison wise. The minute that is the reason, you would have people doing all sorts!

[@retrospectivelyspectacular2331]

Wow LBC has bot accounts commenting their videos… odd.

[@skippy6462]

That's weird isn't it especially given the content 😢

[@mandyharewood886]

It's everywhere, recently. And very obvious.

[@DennisMoore664]

Are you new to KZbin? It's been a growing problem around here for a while now.

[@retrospectivelyspectacular2331]

@@DennisMoore664 yeah but that doesn’t mean LBC should have to make use of it

[@DennisMoore664]

@@retrospectivelyspectacular2331 Might not be LBC but someone else using them to spam content. There are a lot of odd people out there with way too much time on their hands.

[@jamespaul6315]

Thats the country now. Punishment doesnt matter any more.

[@fernandaalario5091]

Hard but so necessary listen 😢

[@bpfromowc]

At least Edwards will be spitting feathers this morning, after his favourite team were beaten 3-0 by Aston Villa last night.

[@garrieleepeck8753]

It's hard to talk about abuse

[@Believe-you-me-]

Nobody protesting? 🤔

[@lynnevenables7193]

James don’t you have the capacity to go upstream and understand the situation- it was a deliberate act that the person that sent the child abuse videos to Edward’s was deliberately not sent to prison for the very purpose that Edward’s and people like you can say, well the person that sent them didn’t go to jail. That’s not a logical argument, it’s an endorsement of a system that protects those paedophiles at the top of the hill.

[@genesis1765]

Funny that if starmer put a referendum to the vote in HoC 😂he'll probably win just saying because his majority is so huge but nobody i guess wants to go there

[@mellowyellow7037]

Parliament makes the laws…..!

[@tarik5897]

Maybe he'll ask Starmer about it lol

[@LekeshMusic]

Man made law that is.

[@mickreaddin4979]

Yes!

[@TheLucanicLord]

@@LekeshMusic This country is thick with laws. Man's laws, not God's.

[@queenirmamay]

When you one of reason you stayed at home for this reason older parents never took time off work expect twice daddy went Jamaica to sort out a piece of land that the family stole it both looked after my grandparents before they came here but we were put in danger

[@alphabetaxenonzzzcat]

Because he is part of the establishment(as you are O'Brien) and it always looks after its own.

[@nakabob1930]

Reason are because like the catholic church so many of the powerful, well established and people of statue are behind closed doors are into these stuff so to protect them the system tip toes around it because even law enforcement, judges, lawyers so many we see,look up are involved..if it was only poor no matter race,gender and religion then it would be handled differently...

[@MrWhitmen1981]

The political left would never lock their own up.

[@mandyharewood886]

This is depressing.

[@lervish1966]

I agree - O'Brien is depressing.

[@1971_2]

Look how he starts the narrative all 5,000 should go away including these pair famous or not

[@DianeBonner-g3d]

No yu want us to stay for yr ratings

[@Ukandy19]

11 minutes in and he manages to get a swipe at one of the tories/right wing press. Possibly a new record

[@ArtyFactual_Intelligence]

The right wing press is the major obstruction to sensible public discourse in the UK.

[@shaneelliott9045]

It is 2 tier justice the sort of people in charge believe it's their right to exercise power over others paedophilia is committed by the same sort of people And lets face it jail is for people that challenge the status quo whistleblowers and people who smoke a plant

[@kezzt]

43:51 "please don't use my name" Literally 30 seconds later, says their name. Please can you edit this out

[@taxi134-y1q]

It's Phil,it could be anybody!!!Edit it out.Dont be ridiculous.

[@nottinghambarbilliards]

Phil is the name of the previous caller, not the person who sent the message asking not to be named.

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

Own it

[@taxi134-y1q]

Turning off now Jimbo because you went off piste on your favourite hobby horse.

[@Bushwacker-mb6hw]

James boring Brexit lol

[@Supersleuth42]

Edwards is of course a staunch Labourite. How does this all sit with his middle class progressive career savvy leftie allies in the media? Dear old Emily Maitlis who offered him her full support for example?

[@NastehoRoble]

also live lbc i can't see

[@LekeshMusic]

I wonder what the punishment would be under the Sharia laws?

[@summan41man]

The very laws their leftist agenda is unwittingly establishing.

[@belindamay8063]

@LekeshMusic. That is a topic we might visit. But not at the moment. This is a time for sharing grief and quiet reflection. How, for example can we help restore these young peoples’ lives ?

[@durple2866]

James is upset his friend got caught hes next

[@dekone5758]

Coz TV, anyone else locked up, especially working class