Jeremy Corbyn vs Sir Rocco Forte | LBC's Budget debate descends into unions row

[@MrPeteHammond]

A man born into wealth and handed a successful business by his father moaning about working people. Classic.

[@bumberClart1000]

The nerve of it 😂

[@yc9129]

Being born 3-0 up and thinking you are on a hat trick

[@waltbarratt200]

We live in the west, the place of free speech your argument is because he was born rich he should NOT have a say as equal as anyone else’s? Corbin worth £3 million and wife’s worth £7 million + she is related to some of the South American richest family’s in oil and coffee are not going to start or worry about putting the heating on this winter unlike some other pensioners

[@jonathanchivers2291]

Being born at 3rd Base and think you've hit a home run. ​@@yc9129

[@LeeMoore-fv3zz]

Yes Corbyn is really egregious

[@benthespread]

People like him would have argued against the abolition of slavery at the time because it was bad for business

[@barrybarry6592]

But take the compensation of course

[@sanchezz4387]

They also argued against the minimum wage

[@paulgibbons2320]

It's still going on today. That is what the immigration debate is.

[@vincnetjones3037]

Ben - agreed. Ears closed to any discussions. He doesn't realise what it takes to make a business that lasts.

[@bigcrazewolf]

No rational person should be praising Rupert Murdoch🧐

[@eddiecalderone]

In your opinion

[@sneakyfish8191]

Objective fact.

[@eddiecalderone]

@@sneakyfish8191 I profoundly disagree.

[@nmir7499]

Rupert Murdoch isn't even British. He's an Australian and an American. He influences our politics through his media empire yet doesn't even have the right to vote in our elections.

[@pittarak1]

Murdoch media is poison

[@masterfullymediocre]

"Unions ruined X" is just a coded way of saying "Treating our workers like people leaves less profit for me to pocket" and we need more people to stand up to it every time it's repeated. Unions won us weekends, parental leave, minimum wage and limits on the working hours we can be asked to do in a week. That's what people like Forte mean by "ruined". They consider basic decent treatment of workers to be a step too far. They're telling you without Unions they'd treat you with contempt. Believe them.

[@ftumschk]

_"Unions ruined X" is just a coded way of saying "Treating our workers like people leaves less profit for me to pocket"_ - Spot on.

[@Vince-l4k]

Not before a slap

[@laurencesmith1435]

No. If you do a menial, no brainer job, then you should be on a low wage.

[@masterfullymediocre]

@@laurencesmith1435 this is a strawman. No one is saying that unskilled labour should be paid exactly the same as engineers, doctors or other highly trained work. They're saying they should be treated as people, able to afford a decent standard of living, and not exploited and their health ruined so the already wealthy can extract even more profit from them. You aren't a billionaire, you will be exploited the same as the rest of us if they get their way.

[@johntowers1213]

@@masterfullymediocre the rub is ...what happens when doing so renders an entire industry unable to compete? now I do agree everyone should get a decent wage for a days work...but how do we fix situations where it stops being economically viable to run an industry without say...laying off a swathe of people and replacing them with automation for example? take the Tube/Trains for Example... if automating it fully was actually viable and the cost savings were actually passed onto the customer...would it be acceptable to sack all the drivers? or should the desire to protect those jobs (jobs that in this scenario are no longer actually needed)...should that supersede the end users desire for a more affordable service at the other end?

[@jackgee7355]

Mental how it’s always the rich business owners who are vehemently against unions.. it’s almost as if they want to get away with treating their workers like slaves.

[@callanpage1836]

If your business cannot exist without exploiting workers, it shouldn't.

[@Grotesque_denizen]

Agreed , sadly many do and reap the rewards for it.

[@leroythompson8942]

Wow 👍🏽

[@annenunney9907]

I agree

[@IanFoster-rg7ge]

This boss is a capitalistic dinosaur.

[@ianedwards2496]

Did unions cause Wilco's to go bust? Did unions force P & O to sack and replace their staff with cheaper labour?

[@voodoochile333]

It was on-line shopping that government's refuse to touch.

[@Vince-l4k]

Why are they not exposing who's pulling the strings, this country has put up a false narrative of home of democracy, with a monarchy, tell me whats the point of voteting??? , a day out?

[@laurencesmith1435]

But unions did cause the shipbuilding, mining, steel and automotive industries to shut down. Unions have destroyed public transport which is now one of he most expensive and worst service in the world.

[@voodoochile333]

@laurencesmith1435 but cmon, they just need raises like the tube drivers to 70k, and things will be perfect! Until the next round of negotiations in a couple of years.

[@lindascott5377]

@@laurencesmith1435 Unions shouldn’t be undermined and the folk who pay your (the union) salaries should never be undersold. But indeed, capitalist greed can infect anything. Human rights must be central.

[@trevormannsfield]

Opposing unions is the fastest way to out yourself as opposing the working class

[@voodoochile333]

No. That's calling them Far Right.

[@monty1864]

The real working class fund the private sector, and the unions dispise us

[@jasonhaven7170]

@@voodoochile333 ???

[@voodoochile333]

@jasonhaven7170 are you two tier Kier by any chance? Obviously he doesn't understand my point.

[@GGeJJ1]

Terrible take. Ask the average worker if we should be giving tax payer funded rises to train drivers doing a 4 day week on 60+k a year. It has its place, but largely what people see is these large unionised organisation doing a terrible job, and leveraging strikes to prevent changes in T&Cs that would improve services like the trains, and reduce cost through automation.

[@petemk73]

I worked at a Forte hotel for 5 years before 2000. Never saw the bloke once and was paid a pittance for the work I was asked to do. When I left they had to employ 3 people to cover the same amount of work I was doing nightly. maybe they should have given me that working wage and I might have stuck around

[@bigdaz7272]

Jezza making far too much sense again, no wonder he never became the PM

[@barnabycauwood3983]

It takes more than talking to become a PM

[@SamWilkinsonn]

@@barnabycauwood3983it certainly does, and Corbyn has a great lifetime track record of doing more than talking.

[@jamescole8771]

​@@SamWilkinsonnLabour has never cared about the poor, it chucked money anywhere it could to get votes, and now we have a population who believe it to be an entitlement as opposed to a means of support. Free market economy should be fair and people should be taught in school how to manage finances, home economics and how to buy houses, how to utilize credit, how to be responsible. Right now, wealthy foreigners have inflated the house prices, and taken advantage of every laxed rule, if there was regulations in place to protect the vulnerable and to protect the economy from exploitation making it difficult for everyone else, then our vulnerable wouldn't need so much help. It would have been very easy to support them. If you want strong borders, put international prestige and standing to a side, and do what's necessary.

[@alexgarland2747]

He's an extremist, he's the lefts Tommy Robinson. But far more extreme.

[@RobertoLeo3]

Jezza lost all credibility when he wanted to get rid of the nuclear threat and did nothing about anti-semitism in his party. He could never have been PM because he had weird personal politics that opponents would have used to destroy him

[@PixelRatedGames]

Rich person opposes the notion of having to pay their fair share? Shocker.

[@clifforddruce4672]

If employers paid and treated their staff well and fairly then there would be no need for unions. But businesses just get greedy and treat their work force like slaves while reaping the benefit.

[@voodoochile333]

It must be all those bad employers scaring the 5million people who refuse to work.

[@bdizzle9586]

@@voodoochile333One has nought to do with t’other but makes it sound like you’ve got a point. Well done!

[@Vince-l4k]

​@@voodoochile333paying 90s wages, greed

[@alexchamberlain9317]

​@voodoochile333 Even if that's true, that is literally irrelevent.

[@SideQ-rr6my]

​@voodoochile333 do union's represent the unemployed now?

[@jimi1is3king]

If your employer tells you that you don't need to be in a union, you definitely do

[@WakeupAndsmelltherosemarys]

Thanks to unions we have weekends and sick pay along with an nhs and welfare state

[@mandriod5255]

When Sir Forte says his policies would be more successful, he means the rich will be richer and the poor poorer!

[@ChrisFitzgibbon-jw2im]

More successful for him

[@Sam88-l4k]

Perhaps businesses should give up avocados. Funny how the poorest are told to give up things, yet that same sentiment doesn't go up the chain

[@johntowers1213]

yeah...just look how badly they took it when the working class told them to give up Europe....

[@Sam88-l4k]

@johntowers1213 how's brexit going?

[@johntowers1213]

@@Sam88-l4k ...fine?...weirdly the sky still remains in place... the City didn't collapse, the food is still on the shelves..and the Nation still holds its place sixth-largest national economy in the world I mean what did you think was going to actually happen?

[@Sam88-l4k]

@@johntowers1213 What advantages have you personally seen since brexit ? Because to have something that works for you, there must be advantages made to your personal day to day life that you didn't receive beforehand while with the EU. I'm sure farmers, fishmen, and the health and social care sectors would say it had a negative impact on their businesses. One of the ideas was to get rid of red tape. Ironically we ended up with more to to export and import through more legal checks and paperwork. Which costs more money outside then inside the EU

[@johntowers1213]

@@Sam88-l4k well were now exporting more to Europe and importing less than we previously did post Brexit , so it seems the "Red Tap" isn't hurting trade the way you imagine.. you clearly no nothing about either Farming or Fishing if you believe the CAP or CFP were widely supported pre Brexit...now at least any bad policy's put in place are made in Westminster rather than Brussels and can be summarily unmade by successive governments with an ear to getting those industries on side... As to personally I've always held to Tony Benns views on the EU. *only the UK parliament, answerable directly to the UK electorate, should make our laws and only the UK courts should enact those laws. These fundamental principles should not be traded for some perceived economic advantage.* For me its not about either personal gain or loss, neither of which I've experienced Post Brexit much like most of the UK population.. Its a far more basic principal of where power is held within relationship to the electorate and what controls the electorate hold over that power, which the EU has failed to address since its inception.. its also why I've very much in favor of regional parliaments as a way to further close the gap between the electorate and the elected..

[@adamwilcox6405]

Not a fan of Corbyn, but I'll take him over the other fella everytime.

[@susanplatt5331]

That should tell you something. I wonder if you'll think about it well enough to realise it.

[@EyebrowsGaming]

Why aren't you a fan of Corbyn? Honest question.

[@adamwilcox6405]

@@susanplatt5331 what am I supposed to have an epiphany and worship at the alter of Corbyn? I may have a lot more in common with him but he's still a brexiter and he was disaster as labour leader.

[@adamwilcox6405]

@EyebrowsGaming his dishonest stance on Brexit for a start. No offence but I'm not going to get into this one again I've done it many many many times.

[@glendasharman6843]

@@EyebrowsGaming 'Not a fan of Corbyn, but ... ' was said ad nauseum during the undermining of Corbyn period and smearing him by calling him an antisemite, and it was said by scared to offend the Establishment individuals who secretly agreed with his policies but were to cowardly to stand up for Jeremy. Pathetic.

[@hurrah5319]

Decline of union membership and powers since 70s has run alongside with decimated wages and conditions for workers. Absolutely no coincidence

[@johntowers1213]

sadly the Unions wrecked their credibility in the 70's and still to this day carry that distrust among much of the public...

[@glyndavies5479]

Forte, the man who supported Brexit. Enough said!

[@voodoochile333]

Can you explain how our unemployment rate has stayed the same despite the claim that the whole economy would implode according to the remoaners?

[@flyentity]

True. But so did Corbyn 🥲

[@glyndavies5479]

@@voodoochile333 Can you explain how Brexit has cost the country over 40 billion pounds?

[@voodoochile333]

@glyndavies5479 what price independence?

[@glyndavies5479]

@ As long as you are happy to keep paying it. Do you want to buy a bridge?

[@ignoranceisbliss6259]

"The labour laws we have today are quite restricive on employers. Employees have the right to appeal against - and you know - go to court, if they feel they're unfairly dismissed." What a truly terrible world the rich have to tolerate...

[@jonmoore873]

I was able to ignore most of his tripe but that sent me over the edge.

[@grahamhollingworth8253]

Sorry Jeremy but unions ruined the car industry.

[@dant-vj2gl]

How to expose the establishment in 30 seconds... Don't worry about the workers. We only make money if we treat them as commodities in the economic budget..

[@bestbehave]

3:35 Literally just admitted that employers are treating their workers unfairly, and is bemoaning that workers will now have the right to challenge

[@bogglefroggle]

If your business requires exploitation and/or poor treatment of employees to function then you don't deserve your dividend. It's a pretty simple argument to understand for anyone who retains a shred of empathy and moral principle.

[@moomin7461]

Unfortunately, many people don't have any empathy whatsoever.

[@GGeJJ1]

Imagine running a business where a minority can ballot, and as long as the majority of that minority vote in favour of strike, they can breach their contracts and be protected by employment law. Forcing companies to keep jobs which should be made redundant by technological progress, thereby resulting in more expensive products for consumers.

[@bogglefroggle]

@@GGeJJ1 It's naive that you believe a corporation is going to pass savings on to customers from making employees redundant instead of increasing profit margins and shareholder dividends. Ask yourself why you are cheering on a small group of people making more money than necessary and arguing for working people to lose their jobs.

[@GGeJJ1]

@bogglefroggle clearly never worked in business then. If you create an environment where businesses can be competitive, and hold reasonable margins, they compete for business usually in pricing. It's cut throat, the company I work for are constantly undercut. If you create a framework where business can be strong armed into strikes by a minority of the work force, who (if you've ever dealt with any unions) often ask for ridiculous pay rises, they will end up backing down and passing that price on to consumers. Or closing down.

[@bogglefroggle]

​@@GGeJJ1 You clearly don't want to engage with any suggestion that union action can be a benefit to working people. You are also assuming that all businesses compete fairly in the same manner as where you work. Many large corporations that dominate markets or posses a monopoly (think rail companies, supermarkets, housing associations etc.) can manipulate market rates and employ pricing techniques that do not require them to be as competitive. And you also don't sound very experienced in business if you don't understand that when a party enters into negotiations over pay rises they are obviously going to start with the best possible result and then negotiate from there. I would argue the type of union action you are trying to describe is less common than legitimate strike action, such as in response to wages not keeping up with inflation - which corporations can pay, they just don't want to.

[@HarryFlowerrs]

What a shame for Rocco Forte, the multimillionaire who says he struggles to make a profit from his hotels!

[@a_net5610]

My heart sank when I heard it...

[@MickSeddon]

Rich people don't think that workers matter. Only them and their riches.

[@williamthurl2607]

They're not treated like slaves today- this is not the 19th Century. The boot is on the other foot with whacking pay rises for people like Junior doctors and Train drivers.

[@brianferguson7840]

A graphic demonstration of the failure under the Tories of both the education system and the provision of mental health care in England.

[@nealchowney1028]

Unions mess everything up End of

[@mustrumridcully3853]

Franklin D.Roosevelt - No company that depends for it's existance on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to exist in this country. Rocco Forte - Brexit supporter who then complaind he couldnt get staff, a joke of an entitled tory businessman. And while I dont like Corbyn, compared to Forte, it's no contest.

[@Butterfliesandzebras]

"What's your definition of success?" Corbyn hitting the nail on the head here as usual

[@voodoochile333]

Are you talking about Millionaire Jeremy Corbyn?

[@timwoodger7896]

It goes to show it’s not just money that divides the rich and the poor.

[@xpyres2130]

Headline - "Rich man gets upset because he can't get richer" shock 🙄

[@anglomandingo666]

The same old same old, that got us here...ffs. The bloke in the tie represents the self licking lollipop part of the population.

[@NosyFella]

This "Sir Forte" stands in complete opposition to everything I believe in

[@dhaferhassan729]

❤ Jeremy Corbyn

[@suzy7726]

He's a weasel 😂

[@stephenblanchard8973]

Those at the top have got considerably richer in the last 14-20 years...workers haven't....and perhaps Forte could tell me why so many workers are claiming benefits too be able to live on low pay....?

[@TC8787-yq7og]

Every day I grow more confused at how the British electorate chose Boris over Corbyn. Not a serious country.

[@richarddababer8493]

Once again Mr Corbyn proving he should be leading the Labour party NOT neo-liberal Starmer

[@KebabMusicLtd]

He was leader of the Labour Party and lost two General Elections: 2017: 262 seats vs 317 T. May. 2019: 202 seats vs 365 B. Johnson.

[@Sotangy247]

@@KebabMusicLtd he still got more people voting for him than Starmer despite the constant attacks and media smears, compared to Starmers largely favourable media coverage prior to the election

[@jamesmilne2455]

Fortes Brexit ruined growth

[@tonyjackson7322]

Oh Jeremy Corbyn, Oh Jeremy Corbyn, Oh Jeremy Corbyn..

[@sandropaulo4776]

Well done Jeremy

[@voodoochile333]

Are you talking about Millionaire Jeremy Corbyn?

[@Anigmama]

‘Growth’ implies Trickle Down works. Forte’s aim isn’t to grow his business to increase wages, it’s to increase his profit.

[@nasher931]

Maybe companies should stop buying avocados and coffees if they're worried about the cost of paying a decent wage

[@clementattlee6984]

If you run a marginal business and you can't afford to pay your staff properly, you don't have a viable business. You operate in the environment society gives you, not the other way around. If you can't meet the basic conditions expected of you, you don't deserve to be in business, and you're certainly not entitled to make a profit.

[@markhattley2032]

The Establishment serves The Establishment 🐷

[@denismullane1300]

If employees were treated decently there would be no need for Unions. Rotten employers are the problem not Unions.

[@jeranemo5504]

Sounds like mr rocco hasn’t been paying attention to the last 30 odd years, what he was suggesting was that we keep trying his way. Not been going well has it. Guy is rich fine, but he’s clueless

[@chuliluli]

So, let me get this straight, working people are struggling more and more to access food and housing and yet the solution from the business men is to get more investment into them so they can make more money and keep salaries as they are??! Not sure I follow their logic, we're obsessed with growth but only for the benefit of a few. Time to repay your debts big corp

[@UKsoldier45]

It will not only slow wages it will cost jobs!!

[@JonAbrams-xt4tq]

Maybe if all those extremely wealthy individuals and corporations invested their huge wealth rather than shipping it all of to off-shore accounts, they'd have plenty to invest in the UK to encourage the economic growth they so crave. They constantly want to take, take, take the money, and squirrel it all away off-shore to avoid paying their fair share of taxes.

[@Hbw113]

Still can’t believe James O’B said Corbyn one of the men who broke Britain 😂😂😂

[@storm21410]

Corbyn has always supported Brexit and facilitated the Leave vote by not campaigning strongly for Remain. He had no plans for a deal with the EU because he fundamentally thinks it is a neoliberal project

[@voodoochile333]

Are you talking about Millionaire Jeremy Corbyn?

[@flyentity]

Because he enabled the Tories so effectively.

[@voodoochile333]

@@flyentity you'll get no argument here

[@jerry4580]

O brien was following orders

[@benachiesween]

I worked in a THF hotel in the 70's in Torquay, the conditions were shocking and behind the scenes of this 5* hotel it was a sh!thole. The less said about the staff accommodation the better. I couldn't stick it for more than one month and moved to a lovely hotel in Paignton for the rest of the season. I never worked for his outfit again by choice.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

So that hotel owner was saying that he foesn't make a profit from his hotels in Belgium, I think he is lying on the bases that if he was making a loss he would simply pull out of that country. No hotel owner will continue a business where they are subsizing their hotels. The fact that his hotels in Belgium are still open proves they are making a profit.

[@Dylanesque]

Not valuing your workers puts your business at risk. Don't stay in a bad place where you're not of any worth.

[@bestbehave]

4:00 Standing up to bullies is not "causing disruption" If you're not a bully people don't stand up to you. It's people that go on strike, and they have to be sorely pushed to do so. Any company that finds it self at the receiving end of strike action has only itself to blame

[@yogihaughton]

Voted for the first time since the ‘70s when Corbyn stood. Gutted he was smeared by the press

[@middleman9183]

The 70's were awful, a low point for the UK economy

[@peterlpool1387]

He didn’t help himself. Instead of putting out there his position on Brexit and declaring that he wasn’t antisemitic but had issue with Israel’s oppression of Palestinians, he’d have had no problems.

[@peterlpool1387]

@@middleman9183what was the 1980’s then? Selling everything off to corporations.

[@bakedbean37]

4:30 - "My vision is more successful ..." (... for me.) Corbyn was cut off from making Forte finish that thought. We get that bit Rocco old mate. What about the rest of us? Do we even count in your "vision"?

[@voodoochile333]

Are you talking about Millionaire Jeremy Corbyn?

[@bakedbean37]

@@voodoochile333 You have reading comprehension issues. One among many other issues I suspect.

[@voodoochile333]

@bakedbean37 that is the reason why Kamala Harris is going to lose the election. Call people names and not answering the pertinent questions! Lol

[@nickm20]

A budget for the many not the privately Eton or similar educated 6% few. Great budget for Great Britain. 🎉

[@verdebritanica]

It's great to see Corbyn on LBC. Still relevant, still making sense and still fighting the hegemony for those with less.

[@Peter-Ac]

most working people have benefited over the years through the action of trades unions. even people who have never been in a union or people who actually hate organised labour have benefited Because of unions all employment situations have improved in terms of pay, conditions, holidays and of course working hours. Non-union employers have had to meet the same standards as has been achieved by unions, in order to recruit staff or to retain staff. It's just that they're bigotry doesn't allow them to admit this Forte,, like odious Father and his worship of Thatcher, is just typical of the greedy rich and uncaring and soulless almost human beings

[@kieranoconnor4334]

......And privatisation has gone so swimmingly.........so really government should be there just to serve industry and business cause that has worked so well in Britain for the last 40 years!!!!!!😮

[@Forksake82]

How dare people disrupt by asking for acceptable terms and a living wage.

[@stephenjon3502]

Great to see all these really rich people have a melt down. Let’s all work for £5 an hour to keep them happy.

[@jimbo1001-u9q]

no £2.00 per hour.....which was a small fortune under thatcher....remember.

[@jamessomers8955]

Where is the row ?

[@captainshakenbake5101]

Rocco Forte is the empite of a capitalistic sociopath. ‘Well I don’t see why worker’s should have rights when that interferes with me making money.’

[@julianshepherd2038]

Funny thing is the British owned car industry went but the car industry, with Trade Unions, remains.

[@aidanjohnkelly]

Two extremes, extreme capitalist and extreme socialist, it's in the middle where people live.

[@SamLowryDZ-015]

Opposing paying people a fair wage whilst not batting an eyelid when tax cuts for millionaires and hand outs and tax breaks for business get waived through without a murmur

[@AndrewLuke]

"Until Rupert Murdoch had the courage" What a way to start a clip. My lunch almost fled my mouth. Looked up Rocco: paid for Boris Johnson's victory party and has put over £100,000 into Tory party funds in a single year.

[@ac4486]

Ian Dale interrupts when Corbyn was about to ask a pertinent question. Standard.

[@hughmuir3063]

What happened in the 1970s was that one union would strike for an increase, and then the next strike would ask for mor and so on. Our productivity is obysmal compared to the USA, and until we get companies thinking it financially viable to invest, we will not get growth through improved productivity. The country needs lower taxes, less public sector, and less regulation.

[@jayw4636]

Yes Jeremy

[@jtmuso]

Every time he says unions he means employees, the working class

[@OfficialRyanx]

How DARE the worker want to oppose and question their sacking from a job?

[@bobsurface908]

Is Forte literally saying that hotels in Belgium cannot make a profit, because that's obviously untrue - or there wouldn't be any hotels in Belgium, FFS!

[@jonh9561]

Interesting that Jeremy Corbyn had to ask Sir Rocco Forte, "what do you call success"?

[@KarakuraNinja]

They complain because they want complete authority, but such one sided authority requires strength of character to represent those besides yourself. That's why unions are necessary.

[@bestbehave]

3:05 "There's confrontation all the time when unions are involved" Well , yes. Unions give employees the power to stand up management that doesn't serve their best interests. Could there be a way to avoid confrontation i wonder ? - oh yes! how about stop trying to erode workers' rights and conditions

[@NickyB62]

Jeremy Corbyn. Could've been the best PM we never got the chance to have.

[@RoyWhearty]

Backing British values, and British culture, Inherited wealth for those born to it, and colonial oppression, British Conservative Labour Party, Proudly for the Few

[@frankpaterson9786]

The generous Ts&Cs I enjoyed at work were solely down to strong union representation, not to the benevolence of my employer.

[@SamuelParish]

I like how respectable they are to each other

[@nickinthefield4202]

Rupert Murdock and brave in the same sentence? 😂😂😂

[@INDIEMUSICROCKNROLL]

I WAS NEVER FORCED TO JOIN A UNION AND NOW, QUITE A FEW OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE NOT IN A UNION

[@guardian100]

Old men with gripes ,affecting our youth .

[@stop-the-greed]

If you look after your staff , they will look after your company

[@karenburns3516]

Why is he a sir because he is rich what joke😂.

[@paulgibbons2320]

I think it's obvious that the only reason they keep small businesses is so big businesses can use them as a political shield to help them deflect or avoid paying what they should be paying.

[@allovdem]

Jezza should have had this demeanor when he was the leader of the Labour party

[@johnrussell3961]

We sell it on the global market at global prices. We have to pay the same global price as if we were importing it. The only people who benefit are BP and shell shareholders.

[@voodoochile333]

Thr same companies labour was going raise millions through a windfall tax.

[@kojo1959]

Company executives and directors never think or talk about paying themselves less salaries…it’s always the workforce who pay the ultimate price of stagnant wages.

[@isotropisch82]

An extremely wealthy man arguing that the people on his payroll should suffer for him to not be slightly less wealthy.

[@BernardMorrey]

You certainly don't create growth with stagnant wages and little to no disposable income. For decades now the welfare state has covered the real terms shortfall in wages whilst business profits have soared and wealthy people became richer. Pay reasonable taxes and stop dodging them by using tax loopholes.

[@warkatwargaming2358]

I'm self employed and run my own business of one. On one had I agree totally with how difficult it must be to employ people. But there does need to be safeguards to rough bosses and business owners

[@Billy_Bull_Sheeter]

Corbyn world have been the best PM the UK had ever seen.

[@fluffycommander]

Someone feel sorry about the pooor employers 😢

[@gregorybird7066]

Yes there is conflict. Because the unions have to constantly push employers to follow the law.

[@vincnetjones3037]

If U can't afford to pay your workers a decent wage then don't run a business. Very simple.