James O'Brien questions if the UK has truly 'moved on' from Brexit | LBC

[@yt.personal.identification]

Here is my Aussie take on it... Brexit made the UK as financially isolated as Australia but doesn't have the natural resources to dig up and make the money.

[@petelawless811]

@@yt.personal.identification your Aussie take on it means nothing so shut and mind your business

[@kevinsanders4374]

@@petelawless811 Definitely a well articulated Brexiteer response

[@CabSav2010]

@@petelawless811 Just because he is an Aussie doesn't mean he is wrong!

[@garethjones9605]

@@kevinsanders4374 "yes it is shut up" 😆

[@chatham43]

You're about as Australian as Yorkshire pudding!😊

[@keithkaosHarv]

Britain is poorer after Brexit. People are angrier as they get poorer and desperate crime is on the increase. The UK feels an uglier place these days, there’s a hopelessness in people’s eyes.

[@James-b7p2k]

Couldn’t agree more it’s a dark place

[@robinwhitebeam4386]

The bottom 50 % have been in this situation for 40 years , that's why the leave Vote won. Please talk to the bottom 50% not just the wealthy , who seems to be intent on importing millions of people and Billions of goods to make money. We invest far too much in property and not enough in productive activity.

[@mariaparabello6344]

Feels less welcoming too, more insular and hostile 😢

[@alansmith4655]

Remember, it's STILL the immigrants fault!

[@1983pety]

@@mariaparabello6344 you can say that again, I see the looks when they hear my accent.

[@anonymoushuman8962]

PS WE HAVENT MOVED ON. WE HAVE MOVED BACKWARDS.

[@chatham43]

So what are you moaning about. You got what you wanted from Brexit.!

[@AaronSmith-x6o]

Says the person that doesn't know the difference between boys and girls.

[@Jj-ff9vq]

But less backwards than Germany or France....so....yep.

[@annepoitrineau5650]

@@Jj-ff9vq lol. Have you been in these countries recently? It is not perfect, but compared to the UK...

[@machidaman]

​@@AaronSmith-x6ois that true though? Or are you just a conservative white bloke that is terrified of difference.

[@wgow21]

Keep banging on about it James. The profoundly damaging consequences of Brexit are not going away - they are just getting worse and worse

[@petelawless811]

He and you can go on about it as much as you want it’s never happening

[@wgow21]

@@petelawless811 Ya, I know. That's why you have to get your money out of this country. Nice place to live n'all - but in terminal economic decline

[@Muzakman37]

@@wgow21 And put it where?

[@wgow21]

@@Muzakman37 An S&P tracker? It just goes up and up - and up

[@Muzakman37]

@@wgow21 This is starting to smell like one of those dodgy fake Crypto/Fintech threads.....

[@juliangilbert5465]

They soiled our bed. They sleep in different beds to the rest of us. Their beds are just fine.

[@ChristianoRodríguez-h3k]

At the same time making money on Brexit,for example visas issued to third countries,UK citizens will soon pay to enter the EU and their fingerprints and face scans will also be taken so what kind of freedom and democracy are we talking about?shocking.

[@MattitudePlays]

Some of their comfy beds are in the very European Union that they fought to separate the nation from 😂 you literally couldn't make this up. People like Farage who get to abuse the system because they are married into the EU and thus retain the benefits of any decision to leave.

[@TheScoppie]

A lot of the people who voted for Brexit already had soiled beds, that was why they voted for it - they’d been convinced that Europe was to blame for the state of their beds.

[@stevenwilliamson6236]

@@juliangilbert5465 Yes. But you let them into your bed. 15m vote Tory.

[@KPW2137]

I don't want to sound like this is some sort of universal truth, but one of the things that struck me back in the day is the fact that often when countries were on the rocks some guys - usually the super wealthy, or the nobility/aristocracy - were better off than ever, and often enough simply did not care that the boat sinks. For them, it was super great, nothing to complain about.

[@MrCElk]

I'll never move on James. I still cannot believe Brexit happened.

[@johnregan2443]

Shame !!

[@TheOutsider840]

🤣🤣🤣 remoaner

[@Jj-ff9vq]

Allow your belief system to catch up with reality, and then you can move on.

[@countfosco8535]

The discussion will continue until Brexit is reversed.

[@manvbees]

​@countfosco8535 do you think all the other countries around the world that aren't part of the EU spend all day choking back tears of regret that they aren't part of it? Move on with your life. It really hasn't had as big an impact to you as you think

[@colinmassey527]

As both a UK business person and a citizen of Northern Ireland, I can say without a doubt that this is the worst own goal that the UK could ever have inflicted on itself

[@manvbees]

I can definitely think of worse things the UK could do it itself 😂

[@goblinwisdom]

Tub thumpers are the most blindest to the reality of a situation.

[@colinmassey527]

@@manvbees you're hilarious - my business is down 40% with Ireland and the 60% remaining requires a heap more paperwork - would you please direct me to the sunlit uplands?

[@manvbees]

@colinmassey527 businesses fail all the time for lots of reason. You'll have my sympathy but I know plenty of businesses still trading with Europe without issue.

[@fabioq6916]

​@colinmassey527 i think he was being sarcastic but of course the UK could in theory have done something worse. We could have nuked ourselves. But within the range of likely choices, Brexit was pretty much right up there as a poor one. No doubt. We just don't need to exaggerate. It is bad enough as it is

[@samoryTure]

Brexit had to do with hatred for foreigners, nothing else.

[@marjan8888]

Hatred brings karma

[@StephenFoster-q6n]

Don't you mean hatred of self appointed London egotistical know now'ts

[@kieranholland3924]

No it was about the very rich not getting to hide their taxes off shore. Foreigners was the smokescreen.

[@richybatty234]

​@@kieranholland3924 You are right about the smokescreen ... but the knuckle draggers weren't interested in that at all . They just want to " get all the foreigners out " . Farage and Johnson along with the rest of their Tory chums sold them the lie perfectly . Morons led by Profiteers springs to mind .

[@brianbell3836]

@@kieranholland3924 Poor people thought foreigners were to blame for their poverty.

[@Nickbaldeagle02]

I won't move on until we've fully rejoined.

[@joescott54]

🥱

[@FartherTed-g7h]

Not a chance 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@nigelknight6688]

Looks like yout not going to be moving on😂😂

[@cousinit2392]

Look at all the Russian assets

[@soapytowel1565]

Unfortunately, absolutely no chance of this, why would the EU ever want us back?

[@tommysteel2844]

If you voted for Farage and Anderson, you deserve everything you get..

[@stewartdickinson8242]

But you’re experiencing the same Tammy.

[@redbeard3923]

Iiebour are in government 😅

[@rb1062]

Anderson???

[@davidmolyneaux5062]

Thicko.......😂

[@benbo18]

If you voted for liebour reap what you sown

[@gitgoodpainting6135]

Would be nice if the Russia report was published, wouldn't it? It might leave us with egg on our faces, and show how foolishly exposed we were, but if we are going to move on, are going to reconcile, are going to point our ire in the right direction, it needs to happen.

[@reginaromer6997]

Farage worked together with the German AfD- party, which is closely connected ro Putin!

[@aleph8888]

It was published in July 2020.

[@snezdimi6695]

​@@aleph8888 published with black lines covering the confidential information

[@I_am_Spartacus]

ahhhh The infamous Russian Report.... where art thou!!!! Labour banged on about this and then get into power... and then what??? Would be nice if James could do a segment on this...

[@brianbell3836]

@@I_am_Spartacus Redacted

[@peterrear2864]

We visited family in the north east last year and one was moaning about lack of invstment ,it just happens that the projects had eu backing.they all voted to leave then complain about eu projects stopping ......

[@jondarbyshire-s7k]

Yes a region that truly shot itself in the foot.

[@CarlBland-l8l]

​@jonzu217 got there karma same as any1 who believed politicians 😂

[@JanetMaynard-i1d]

Lots of us in the north east voted against Brexit , we were well aware of the consequences, but sadly the majority were taken in by Johnson and co , so so sad

[@jondarbyshire-s7k]

@@JanetMaynard-i1d They should have asked where the funding had been coming from for many projects, certainly not from the central government under the Tories or Labour. One person thought that the reason why London received more money was because it was full of foreigners!

[@arghjayem]

@@jondarbyshire-s7kthey were told where funding for a lot of these things were coming from! And those that voted leave refused to believe it! Look at all the British fisherman and farmers, majority of which voted leave, despite all the benefits and EU funding kept them going and in business! 🤷

[@MsCharlieBrown78]

Have we moved on? Brexit hasn't even kicked in properly, and already the countries reputation is in tatters. I dread to think what the future will hold.

[@johnregan2443]

Yes with Labour in charge-! Only for a short time though .

[@Driver2616]

What do you mean by it “hasn’t kicked in”? What have I missed? As far as I was aware Britain left the EU. So that’s it then. Brexit has been done. It’s over.

[@Donaldson7185]

Hasn't kicked in properly lol 😂😂😂.

[@mikewallace1723]

@@Driver2616 rules are still to be implemented. Soon we need visa to travel. Finger prints taken etc. no idea! The amount of work I am now experiencing, for no gain, but for f***ing so called sovereignty 💩

[@KingsOfSpins]

The UK is going to be bankrupt in the next 9 months.

[@sKratchglfr]

I would be happy if you did brexit every day for 3 hours if it meant we could rejoin. Keep going James!

[@chatham43]

No you wouldn't..and it won't. If enough people want it to fail..it will fail!

[@gijgij4541]

@@chatham43 Brexit was a pre-programmed failure. A stunning job of shooting ourselves in both feet.

[@johnregan2443]

That's two of you then -!

[@gijgij4541]

​@@chatham43 It was inherently always going to be an economic failure.

[@chatham43]

@gig Spoken like a true patriot who believes in the UK.😂😂

[@Human_Herbivore]

Brexit is a bonus like a one legged man being strong in hopping races when most of the world is two legged sprinting.

[@maxplanck66334]

After Brexit, Johnson wanted the word ‘ Brexit’ banned from all official government papers: what greater inditement of Brexit can there be than its main architect wanting nothing more to do with it? ( because he knew what was coming ) It is hugely disappointing that the Labour Party won’t address the negative impacts of Brexit on the UK.

[@alan102g]

no party want to talk about brexit...its not a vote winner

[@mandywithell]

@@alan102g Not in itself, but combined with a raft of other issues ie; Water, Energy, Workers Rights, Cost of Living ............... it would be! With a clear majority (according to polls) of people thinking Brexit is now a bad move Labour could implement discussions on how to move forward. They won't, through fear. NOT of the Electorate but fear of the Media!

[@CharlieMac53]

They aren't going to do that, as they are just another branch of the establishment Tory Party.

[@richardduployen6429]

@@alan102g How do you know if you don't try? It's hypocrisy to gag people. It makes them want to mention it even more.

[@tspoonfr]

It was as soon as Starmer said Brexit was not on the table, that I gave up any hope he had of being successful. That was a guaranteed 48% (estimate) of the populace who would have voted for Labour on that one policy alone.

[@Plumduff3303]

As a disaster it's an absolute success.

[@hlorii6598]

It served its purpose as a scarecrow for other EU members that might have flirted with separatism.

[@lordchaa1598]

The UK will never be over it. You’ve gone from the largest empire the world has ever seen. Only to be left with a tiny island in the Atlantic. What natural resources do you have and what do you create, that the rest of the world can’t get or make cheaper?

[@annaclarke7643]

I’ve never seen why a country that goes out into the world, to steal other peoples resources, to take a country by force and govern it by oppressing and gaoling the indigenous population, should be lauded for overpowering by the point of a gun. The word ‘empire’ is not anything to be proud of. It is the behaviour of a richer more dominant group.

[@strexus]

That's why Scotland has to get away from this English madness. We have all the natural resources and energy we can use. We grow just about all the food we need, and woukd rejoin the common market tomortow. We Scots do not need to be tied to a failing England. It's time for Scotland to give that country the chance to go it alone.

[@lordchaa1598]

@@strexus , I second that. Cheers 🍻 mate. To an independent Scotland and a unified Ireland. Let England fix its own mess.

[@richardduployen6429]

@@lordchaa1598 I agree. The b word isn't done. Far from it. If it were we wouldn't be still having these very interesting conversations.

[@majvorandersson4641]

Don't forget the 40 Brits in Adamstown, Pitcairn Island! They make the UK a Pacific nation after all...

[@kieronparr3403]

He's not lying. People were forced into this with lies and false promises

[@jwadaow]

Like the Maastricht treaty.

[@stephenhill545]

They chose it. They're fools, but it wasn't forced on them.

[@marjan8888]

And now the same halfwit has hitched his wagon onto the MAGA movement

[@lukecompton5816]

​@stephenhill545 let's be real, elderly bigots and those wishing Britain was still in the 40s/50s voted for it. Even worse it was executed by a group of people you wouldn't trust to run a bath unsupervised, let alone negotiate the single most important event that has happened to the UK that wasn't a war.

[@1983pety]

they, the Brexiters, chose to believe the lies. It was the MAGA effect, it's like a drug, feels great while it lasts but then reality hits back hard.

[@Alex-cw3rz]

Farage and Boris should not be able to get away with this, they need to be forced to debate it with an economist.

[@briangilligan6270]

Debate it with a judge, preferably High Court.

[@alanhat5252]

​@@briangilligan6270Johnson has already had a day in Court, it turned out that the Judge was an employee so he walked away 😢

[@briangilligan6270]

@@alanhat5252 Bring new charges.

[@rb1062]

Farage worked in the City. Knows more about economics than most people commenting here.

[@briangilligan6270]

@@rb1062 More about how to put money in his pocket than most of us I'd say.

[@jackpayne4658]

Back in the 1970s, I was a young Labour voter - but I had friends and colleagues who voted Lib Dem or Tory. I didn't agree with them, but I could understand their reasons. The Brexit referendum was a different matter. It tapped into some unspoken, irrational feelings - like nothing else in recent political history. It highlighted divisions which we hardly knew existed previously. Perhaps the essence was simply populism - 'we are all equal, therefore my ignorance is equal to your knowledge'. I'm still trying to get my head round it.

[@edcleverley9333]

@Minimmalmythicist But they're not 'making laws', they're setting minimum standards so no-one can gain a competitive advantage in the single market by undercutting the others. The laws are created by national parliaments and can exceed EU standards if desired

[@goblinwisdom]

If the tories hadn't chosen to do austerity in '08 ( Osborne came out in an interview a few yrs back 'that it was a political choice' to do it) that deep resentment and 'things gotta change' wouldn't have been there in the psyche of so many.

[@richardduployen6429]

In the seventies the British referendum had a large majority for joining. Edward Heath whom I met was possibly the most pro-European prime-Minister.

[@jamesprivet]

Correct

[@stephenhill545]

Fascists were moving among us, rather than one nation Tories.

[@theuncertaintyprinciple]

I know I haven’t, but it’s blatantly apparent that those that instigated it want to move on from it. Once upon a time the BBC would have commissioned a Panorama special which would have pulled it to pieces…… John Sopel has noted in his book Strangeland how BBC editors requested opposing views be presented as equal when they clearly were not. Sickening 🤬

[@darrylsimpson4744]

And there she was last night, Vicky Derbyshire, having a go that Starmer didn’t mention Brexit! This from the BBC that literally banned any mention of Brexit for years!

[@padraigohooligan8363]

It's akin to "false equivalence".

[@benbo18]

You mean the panorama that's proved fake , short memory or you buried your head in the sand m8 ,like all remoaners

[@theuncertaintyprinciple]

@@benbo18 ‘you mean the panorama that’s proved fake’ please expand?

[@M.Linoge]

@@benbo18 "Remoaners"... How old are you? I really want to know. You sound like a child, but I get the feeling that despite your poor English you are in your fifties.

[@martynblackburn9632]

How can we move on when politicians like Frage and thick-as-mince Lee Anderson and Co are still at large?

[@trevormannsfield]

Not only are they still at large they're still trying to convince us to leave even MORE international institutions. And once we're out the ECHR what's the betting the people paying Farages bills next want us out of NATO? I'm sure it would be awfully convenient for Nige's favourite country to weaken us further

[@ibexdnb2879]

Shall we lock them up?

[@trevormannsfield]

@@martynblackburn9632 They're not just at large they're still trying to convince us to leave more international institutions I'm sure it has nothing at all to do with Farage's weird infatuation with Putin

[@Muzakman37]

They are a fact of life now, part of the political furniture of the UK (and no longer even just England), so we may as well accept that and figure out a roadmap moving forward. British (and European) politics has changed, time to face that reality.

[@trevormannsfield]

@@Muzakman37 It hasn't changed, it has BEEN changed deliberately by a handful of media outlets that give people like Farage the attention he craves

[@michaelleiper]

Brexit - only costing the UK £2bn a week. Presumably that's deemed "worth it"?

[@LMB222]

That's less than the £350m they sent to the EU. Right? 😂

[@michaelleiper]

@@LMB222And that's without remembering that the £350m figure on the bus was a lie. It was never the amount we sent the EU, let alone the net amount after the money the EU gave to farmers and poor areas and Universities for research funding. Oddly enough - we leave the EU and farmers are getting less money, and Universities are getting less money for research. I'll admit I don't know if the "levelling up" money is more or less than the money the EU used to give to poor areas though...

[@AntonioMarino5763]

people in the uk voted brexit not on the basis of economics but on xenophobia!

[@dufud]

People voted because mass immigration is killing the country. As proved now. making everyone poorer.

[@markwelch3564]

​@@BrockSamson-i1iwell, anyone who voted for Brexit on economic grounds is bad at economics - truly Liz Truss levels of bad

[@stephenhill545]

​@@BrockSamson-i1ithe research says yes.

[@dibdab101]

if you're a xenophobe and voted brexit, it is understandable (i'm not saying right, but you knew why you were voting for it). anyone who voted for it on the basis of economics is an absolute pillock.

[@divinity176]

No - we can't move on. From the remainers point of view, it is a persistent drag on our economy. From the Brexiteer point of view, they embarrassed themselves and rather than owning up to it they have stubbornly dug in and insist we keep going further - for starters, by leaving ECHR too.

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Brexit has been a successful change. It gives the British people a feeling of self determination. It can now question all the deals it does. Even crazy ones like the EU human rights laws such as the ECHR it signed up to, that could easily be argued it just hasn’t kept pace with the changes of mass illegal immigration.

[@edeledeledel5490]

The Brexiteers keep saying it was not a "proper Brexit" The Remainers were just saying the Brexit that the Brexiteers supposedly wanted was never possible, because it was a complete flight of fancy by ignorant people, coupled with deliberate moves by people who were likely to benefit personally, like Jacob Rees-Mogg.

[@stephenhill545]

Belief perseverance psychologists call it. It protects the ego.

[@mrbrownz554]

@divinity176 we have our own powers now to make Britain great again! but the previous mess of a conservative government and now the flip flop pro EU labour mismanagement haven't implemented our independence from a non elected EU dictatorship to take soul control of our future. The real brexit/change I feel it is coming very soon

[@TorianTammas]

The UK should leave the UN and any internatiobal organisation and sail into the sunset.

[@SavvyCynophile]

For God's sake James, keep talking about Brexit and rejoining. We need to keep the pressure on the government.

[@darrylsimpson4744]

The ”government” are inheriting the worse situation EVER inherited. Brexit hitting GDP by 4%, schools crumbling, no prison space, probation service in disarray, backlog in the courts, water companies going bust, sewerage in the rivers/coast, roads crumbling, high speed rail abandoned costing billions in acquired land, farms, property, immigration deliberately in a mess, rents extortionate. In a word, we’re f**ked.

[@stephenbrown4211]

And then watch the EU whip our backsides. You’ll wish we were out of it

[@chrisstones1249]

​@@stephenbrown4211Why would they do that .

[@stephenbrown4211]

@@chrisstones1249 because they hated us before we left; we were always at the back of the queue. (An ex EU lawyer told me that). And they hate us even more for daring to leave.

[@chrisstones1249]

@@stephenbrown4211 Lies,lies,lies ,who was the ex EU lawyer ,What this comes down to is the fact you voted for Brexit and you're all out of pathetic excuses.

[@SailingFlodhest]

I fail to understand how 17 million people gave the likes of Francois, Faridge, Johnson, and Dorris a bean of credibility. The all had along track record for deception and poor performance. Apart from that did 17 million take leave of their senses? Its true that nobody is really talking about it in Europe now. Adjustments were made and everybody moved on.

[@mdaly4179]

On first reading your message cut off at “…track record for deception and poo…” which is also accurate!

[@triggersw3350]

Yep, In Europe they can adjust and carry on.. But the businesses in Britain that lost a massive chunk of the market for their goods, or had huge extra cost dunmped on them couldn't just move on- they went out of business.

[@peterlorimer3552]

Racism.

[@DavidRedfern-p3b]

@@triggersw3350 The trouble with politicians is if they get it wrong everyone else pays for their mistakes.They loose nothing.

[@YakMadrid1]

For the same reason they voted Trump in the US. Is named populist and ignorance.

[@WilkinsMichael]

I'm not British and I live on the literal other side of the globe but I get tremendous schadenfreude from Brexiteers being confronted by the realities of Brexit.

[@daveburnham9111]

ditto

[@brianbell3836]

Honestly, Mike, they don't see it. What they see is a failure to implement Brexit properly.

[@RoganBryan]

The look of shock and horror on Johnson and Gove’s faces when the result of Brexit referendum was announced was very telling. I don’t believe they actually wanted to leave at all and believed the result would be strongly to remain. They were both looking for a platform where they could shout loudly and make full time jobs for themselves.

[@iainhunneybell]

Oh yes, 110%. You could not be more correct ❤

[@grumblewoof4721]

No, we have not moved on from Brexit. Brexit has f'ed up my life. I am now a retiree stuck here in the UK with Reeves going after my Pension.

[@richybatty234]

In time you will still be better off under a Labour government than a lying corrupt Tory one ...

[@brianbell3836]

Trapped.

[@mrbrownz554]

@grumblewoof4721 move to a EU country you'll not be missed

[@brianbell3836]

@@mrbrownz554 Why don't you move to America?

[@mrbrownz554]

@brianbell3836 because I'm a UK CITIZEN and I'm not moaning about about my country like grumblewoof

[@WinstonMelbourne-vt2vt]

We need an Brexit inquiry ASAP

[@richardduployen6429]

I agree. It's overdue.

[@jimgraham6722]

Brexit was a hugely successful strategic project by putin. He is totally contemptuous of the UK and realised early on a number of surprisingly small strategic investments could peel the UK off the EU. That the UK fell for it confirmed his opinion of the UK and increased his confidence in initiating Ukraine2

[@martynblackburn9632]

Putin and Frage and his vile so-called political party.

[@MrsGardiner]

Especially because the UK is the guarantor for Ukraine (together with USA). When Ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in the 90s, all three Russia, USA and UK stood guarantors. When Russia reneged and took the Crimean, the other two guarantors did nothing and that enabled the war. It was not surprising that both UK and USA are also the biggest recipients of interference from Russia.

[@Gabriel_H77]

​@@MrsGardiner The US and UK placed economic sanctions on Belarus in 2008 and 2013, who was part of the same agreement, which included not interfering in the economy. Your thoughts on that violation? Note: I am not defending Russia's illegal actions, merely pointing out we are hypocrites who only enforce laws/treaties/agreements when they benefit us.

[@bryangeake5826]

@@Gabriel_H77 Because Belarus was becomming an autokracy [sic] and thus renaging on the agreement that included allowing a multi party democratic parlaimentary system of governance with free elections to form. It is now a full blown autocracy, and a Putin vassal state. That is why.

[@jimpaddy79]

@@bryangeake5826that might well be the case but you cant just renege on an international treaty because you dont like their Government

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

Very disappointed by labour’s attitude to this. They are in a great position to be honest about the economic damage caused because of their huge majority, and they’re too cowardly to do it. Politicians need to start treating the electorate like adults, about a wide range of subjects, and part of being an adult is having to hear things you don’t like. Pandering to the fears and biases of the ignorant is not the way forward.

[@manvbees]

Haha labour are the absolute worst for living in cloud cuckoo land. Their whole economic doctrine is based on huge public spending offset but increased borrowing. Essentially putting debt onto the next generation. You think they would ever face any kind of reality about anything? 😂

[@stevep4131]

Problem is that many people don't behave like adults. They have strong opinions based on nothing and it doesn't worry them.

[@Kevin-mx1vi]

I'm told that it's a lot easier to fool someone than to convince them they've been fooled, and in fact they're much more likely to get very angry with you when you tell them they've been fooled. Labour don't want to talk about it because people - the ones who were fooled - will be angry with Labour and NOT the ones who fooled them.

[@Howling-Mad-Murdock]

@@RossMcgowanMaths they’ve already got power for the next 5 years. They could try educating instead of pandering, if they still won’t accept hard facts then they’re not ignorant - they’re halfwits.

[@BumbleyBoo]

That's making the assumption that it would gain them favour, instead of potentially lose it. I'd like the conversation to happen, but would it just further reinforce the anti labour groups to back reform next time around?

[@joemillward2892]

Glad to see from the comments that I am not the only person who hasn't moved on. I cannot believe it happened and I am so annoyed and upset that the 16 and 17 year olds weren't given the vote. 16-17 year olds overwhelmingly wanted to remain, will be the most impacted generation and weren't able to vote. I was 16 at the time, so am particularly upset (still!).

[@Pilky-Bs2Mc]

Come 2029 16 & 17 year olds should be allowed to vote. Whichever party is then promising a 2nd referendum on re-joining the EU, they'll win hands down

[@lewgallagher463]

I was 17, in my last year of college, only weeks away from being 18. But then some older folks (not that all Brexit ignorants are elderly, they come in all shapes and sizes and flavours) still living in the past pre 70s or who lap up the populist talking points (e.g. xenophobia and racism) got to make a call that realistically, they would’ve have to live with the implications with for long, but people like ourselves will be impacted for the rest of our lives. But remember, the country is a sham because of our generation.

[@richardduployen6429]

He had his party in the E. U. move to a right-wing group!

[@DavidRedfern-p3b]

@@joemillward2892 A young engineer in my work place asked me for my opinion on Brexit. I told him the outcome is undefined so how can you vote for it with no set set rules or principles.

[@andrewdobson813]

I find that most of the Brexit supporters I know think we could just go back in on the same terms we had before. Nobody in the EU wants us back because we were a pain in the neck from our entry in 1973, though the 1975 referendum, Thatcher's constant demands for special treatment, opt outs, no social chapter, etc.etc. As the French might have put it, 'C'etait Adieu, n'etait pas au revoir'

[@RobertThomson-y4m]

The french can pay for it then.

[@danganbeg7225]

Absolutely correct

[@danganbeg7225]

​Unlike you, the French have always paid their share.

[@chatham43]

@andrew So there's no going back. So you can stop whinging and make the best of it. Or is that too much to expect?

[@jimwest7107]

Most Remainers think that, not Brexiteers.

[@CmdrDjBurp-dr5uy]

Moved on in the UK? Are you joking? This country has been going backwards for two decade's now. The rich and poor divide is night and day. British people are living in 3rd world poverty and desperation in 2024. And every politician is responsible for the down fall of these islands, and they've never been held accountable

[@BusstterNutt]

Thank you for all the hard work in making these excellent videos.

[@AlisonMcGlone]

I'll never get over my anger at the English electorate dragging Scotland out....😡😡😡

[@petelawless811]

Haha you’re hilarious

[@keithmorris-i9o]

We English want to give you independence please have another vote and let us vote.

[@TheOutsider840]

Scotland was never itself an EU member. It's absolutely right that since the UK was the EU member...all eligible UK citizens should have input into that decision.

[@molerun]

Not only Scotland, Gibraltar too. As an Englishman the fact that so many of us, though it wasn't that many as far as the close vote proved, so many in a total humiliating embarrassment for this part of these islands think we're an English Kingdom not a UK. Polls suggest the majority now think Brexit a mistake, so what of democracy now? Remember all the time Rees Mogg and his mates thought they might lose they said there maybe a need for a second vote. On winning he claimed the people have spoken. And a little reminder it was hard not to hear the insults he directed at the at the Scots in Parliament afterwards.

[@macred]

👏👏👏👍

[@MrsGardiner]

Trying to move on instead of talking a problem through is never productive. Least said, soonest mended really only applies to very minor things. NOT to Brexit.

[@mjl2904]

Boris Johnson, Mark Francois, David Davies, Nadine Dorries, Michael Gove, Jacob Rees Mogg sound like a poor version of the Avengers 😂😂 Would love to see Thanos click them out of existence

[@Pilky-Bs2Mc]

Any leader that sides with Putin is an enemy of the West. That includes Farage & Trump

[@XTRAIT-em4rx]

Brexit and with everything going on in the Middle East and in Ukraine, has left Britain in dire straits for the majority.

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

The EU does nothing that actual free trade, and freedom of movement, cannot do better.

[@brianbell3836]

@@yorkshiremgtow1773 ?

[@yorkshiremgtow1773]

@@brianbell3836 all we need, for these two things, is for governments of member-states, to allow these things: that's it.

[@brianbell3836]

@@yorkshiremgtow1773 The EU is not simply about business. It's about preventing war with ever closer ties. It's about being stronger by being together. Are you so insular that you can't see that?

[@tmcdowell5986]

As an American I know I have little room to preach, but I remain mystified how am island Nation could ever be better for severing it's position in a continental market and political union?

[@patarciepaul]

Because it's the worlds largest market on the UK's doorstep. 🙄

[@gushunter6709]

Tell that to Trump.

[@davidpryle3935]

@tmmcdowell. Many people do not like sacrificing their nation’s sovereignty for the sake of money.

[@patarciepaul]

@@davidpryle3935 The sovereignty argument is BS..

[@davidpryle3935]

@@patarciepaul Yeah, if you don’t value sovereignty you probably would regard the sovereignty argument as B.S.

[@jonandauriol1]

Politicians are not behind common sense, Brexit has diminished the UK in so many ways. Europeans are only sad because travel to the UK is much more difficult . A new referendum with options is the only way to sort this out and then the arguments can stop.

[@RobertThomson-y4m]

Another referendum would lead to even bigger division in our country.

[@patrickchang9069]

The problem is that Europe has moved on and has no interest in having you back.

[@brianbell3836]

Don't know about that. Having the UK in the EU would bolster the whole thing up.

[@Greenpoloboy3]

If you dont know what Brexit means, just remember that Brexit means Brexit.

[@andrewdobson813]

I'm sorry. I'm a reform voter and I find your comment rather confusing. Could you put it more simply?

[@anonymoushuman8962]

@@andrewdobson813😂😂😂😂😂

[@chrisstones1249]

@@Greenpoloboy3 Brexit meant total bullcrap and lies .

[@glennbateman4483]

It doesn't actually , referendum results aren't written in stone

[@cdscoys4775]

Whoever came up with those 3 word pointless slogans was a genius, they really had tapped in to how thick a big percentage of our population has become

[@robertbricker]

I enjoyed listening to the program, but I will ask you the question that you posed. "What's the point?" It's pretty clear that Brexit was a big mistake - at least that's how most (?) of us here in the USA view it, although we did see it as a wake up call with respect to the appeal of nationalism (rational or not). At this point Great Britain has been through a referendum and elections - Brexit is a done deal. Forget expressions of regret from the other side. I've learned from watching Donald Trump that populists double down rather than admit a mistake, so that's not going to happen. Boris Johnson is not coming on and saying 'Oops, let's let's have a redo..." And even people that were right eventually get tired of saying I told you so - so that's a dead end. I guess the only practical responses are ones to design a workaround towards a single market economy, even if it doesn't mean being formally "in". Engaging in regretful ruminations that won't accomplish anything and won't result in a solution also won't help the nation move forward. Re-envisioning what is possible from here - that's the only direction that could possibly result in some useful outcome. I suspect you could even get some of the previously pro brexit people on board at this point. Forget the 'I was right' mantra. Ban it from your lexicon,and shift gears into fostering getting right what's possible. You definitely have an audience to start that with.

[@nerome619]

Farrage will always smile when there is a crowd or a mirror.

[@dougallee7066]

And the cultural damage. The Cultural Damage! They miss us (they tell me) but we are replaceable. We were necessary, culturally, before Brexit, but they are now having to learn to do without us. And this means we are less wanted, less influential, less welcome, less employable, less interesting, less relevant. Everyone seems to talk about the economic consequences; but the consequences are further-reaching than that. I mourn for us.

[@brianbell3836]

100%, Douglas

[@ojay57]

"The days of people phoning in to soil themselves on air" i almost spat my coffee out 😂😂😂

[@JMD-er5jq]

it's not so much that they won't admit it has been a disaster, it is the fact they won't admit they created the disaster

[@TommyWylie]

Because if they admitted it, they would expose their real agenda.

[@alan102g]

Brexit as cost Billions in lost trade for this country.....The NHS will never be any better...no money for it now...thanks to Brexit.

[@dareensooraya9615]

I travel for a living. Everyone that hates us, is glad that we did brexit .

[@petelawless811]

Oh no how will we sleep at night

[@erikvermolen8371]

​@@petelawless811 ever more so hungrier...

[@petelawless811]

@@erikvermolen8371 really we are doing just fine so try harder you little liar

[@erikvermolen8371]

@@petelawless811you don't sound fine

[@SuperZacharius1]

​@@erikvermolen8371agreed! He's everywhere in the comments....needs to get a life...

[@nicholasstone2358]

Political debates will last forever. We don't have to accept brexit. Especially when the population wants to rejoin the EU. But it is sad to see that brexiters shut down people because they won debate in 2016. Where is the democracy in that?

[@Gabriel_H77]

Democracy is the will of the people - not just the majority or plularity. Democracy takes account of the minority viewpoint, led by the majority viewpoint. Implementing a hard brexit, with the backing of 52% (38%) against the will of the 48% (36%), is not democratic. If you are wondering about the parantheses, that's the vote % of the electorate as a whole, given 26% shrugged.

[@danganbeg7225]

There is no mechanism for "rejoining ". You could work towards applying to join, but I'm afraid you will be at the "back of the queue " as Obama told you. 27 member states can, and will, object. You can not spend decades insulting and insisted you get opt-outs and rebates and then think we will just let you join again. IT WILL NOT HAPPEN

[@petelawless811]

The population wants to rejoin behave yourself you liar

[@aleph8888]

The population didn’t vote to rejoin the EU in the July 2024 general election.

[@rb1062]

It's your fantasy and opinion that "the population" wants to rejoin the EU.

[@Dignity4allhumanity]

Just got text message saying they increased my data internet speed whilst travelling in Europe. Living in Ireland 🇮🇪. It’s the little things eh !

[@petelawless811]

Enjoy tent city you mug

[@kumstuke]

​@@petelawless811why are you angry?

[@petelawless811]

@@kumstuke why are you trying to talk to me I wasn’t talking to you mind your business

[@mandywithell]

@@petelawless811 Why were you replying to @Dignity4allhumanity? How do you know they were talking to you? Perhaps YOU should "mind your own business"?....................................................🤣

[@kumstuke]

@@petelawless811 ok, but you're still upset. What happened?

[@Hans-k9j]

Why is Brexit still such a big item? Here in the Netherlands and I suppose everywhere in continental Europe talk about it has stopped. Still admiring your effort to make clear how idiotic the decision has been. No return obviously, single market or customs union is blocked. You might be able to reapply but that will take decades.

[@petelawless811]

@@Hans-k9j yet here you are you sad no life listening to U.K. news

[@Nice0n3]

I beg your pardon. We have had some brexit news over here in Bulgaria... About 3 months ago there was some article in an online news site saying how the british are now whining at airports... Only laughter in the comments.

[@jacquipope6222]

​@@petelawless811Think Pete's best ignored bless him! 🤣

[@katywalker8322]

It is a big item in the UK because it has badly affected the UK and its population and there was no real majority wish to leave. In effect most of the UK population are still sore about being a victim of crime.

[@jimwest7107]

When in the Netherlands around the time of Brexit many Dutch told me they would leave the EU if they could but weren't brave enough due to needing the single market for the fresh cut flowers trade.

[@YourTypicalMental]

I remember watching a clip of a news archer grilling Nigel Garage about to whom the UK will do business and he blistered about rebuilding trade relationships with the Commonwealth! Look, as a Canadian I dislike the Americans with the best of them. But we share a 10,000km open border with them, who are we going to be inclined to do trade with?

[@allyeneedislove]

The Commonwealth? The Commonwealth are more concerned about reparations than trade.....

[@anthonyrybicki1000]

Brexit cannot be forgotten until Britain recovers its pre brexit gdp and its potential power to collaborate successfully with its neighbours on many common issues. The meetings held recently with the EU Commission are promising first steps but Starmer needs to put the evil genie back in his bottle.

[@chatham43]

So the superior Anthony knows better than the working classes who voted to leave? From North London are we?

[@Evemeister12]

@@chatham43 Looks like there's another gammon on the loose.

[@petelawless811]

@@Evemeister12 your racism has been reported

[@ChainsawDoggo]

Not even then I'd say. History is important to remember so the same mistakes don't get repeated.

[@MrWhitmen1981]

Collaboration failed it’s why there is a mass illegal immigration problem. The EU failed and it’s time you see its complete failures. It compromised the safety of people through crime and terrorism.

[@sumdude4281]

When you wonder how did America get Trump, same way you got Brexit.

[@Kenyon712]

Racism. Destroys.

[@brianbell3836]

Racism.

[@rory9174]

Two political parties in the UK offered Brits a second brexit referendum and they were ignored in the elections, even though the polls showed strong support for rejoining. So i dont get it.

[@Avaloran]

Aw. Poor precious Britain. 😅

[@brianbell3836]

Don't curse us all. Nearly half the voters wanted to stay in the EU.

[@markwilkie3536]

Keep at it James I could not agree with you more.

[@brianoriordan7281]

I don't think the people who live in Northern Ireland or Gibraltar think there is a sweet spot.

[@petelawless811]

@@brianoriordan7281 and your point is what exactly?

[@brianoriordan7281]

@@petelawless811 it is about Borders! I Rather obvious I'd have thought

[@joshabbott7237]

James O’Brien absolute legend, smashes everyone before him 🎉

[@shootingmatchltd.4433]

I see no difference between a vote in an election and one in a refernedum. Why can one change and the other can't?

[@goblinwisdom]

Because if they can convince you it's one and done, then it's much harder to push back on it after having enough ppl change their minds and enough younger voters gain the vote.

[@suewilkinson993]

And it's not that easy either. Even if another referendum voted rejoin it would take many years for us to reach the criteria needed to do so. We can't demand admission and all EU countries would have to agree. At the rate our government has pi**ed off many in the EU I wouldn't be surprised if it never happened.

[@equaliser2265]

A referendum doesnt have to be acted upon, it didn't have to be the result was too close. And the UK was in the EU but it still kept it's own currency not the Euro, didnt have ID cards, and always had border checks,everyone in or out got checked and still does. They really destroyed the hope of a generation.

[@richardduployen6429]

@@equaliser2265 Having the same currency, free movement and i. d. save time.

[@reddwarf666]

Because brexiteers are liars and cheats, the are just like maga from the us. They want their way and once they have it, you will not be able to turn it around and change it. Always the excuse of "it was voted on, now let it go and move on..." If this was truly their believe you would not have had the Brexit vote in 2016 you see. As you might probably know, the UK voted on whether to stay in the EU in a referendum held in 1975. The outcome was to ... hold for it ... *stay in the EU* So if they (the brexit cheats and lairs) were serious in their argument "voted on, move on and accept, it cannot be changed!" then 2016 would never have been allowed. But here we are.

[@DavidRedfern-p3b]

There are Benefactors of BREXIT. However the vast proportion of the electorate are the losers

[@ealadubh4800]

This is like trying to 'move on' from cancer before it gets terminal.

[@luftwaffle3451]

You reading my mind? So spot on!

[@MatthewHenry-ym6bb]

How could Brexiteers ever have thought that a country that relies on imports of food to even feed itself could ever be fully sovereign, not to mention other issues such as what we have to give up for trade deals and the rules we have to accept.

[@stephenhill545]

I did hear someone saying he'd rather be poor and English. He wasn't poor btw.

[@brianbell3836]

@@stephenhill545 And also that we'd be castrated by deals with USA, Australia and New Zealand.

[@petrovonoccymro9063]

We have moved on alright Wes Streeting. We now want to rejoin. Wakey Wakey.

[@someblokecalleddave1]

Yep - keep telling this story, new generations of younger people need to know as they become increasingly politically aware what happened and the the political allegiances of those that voted for it and how dumb they were. The fingers need to be pointed.

[@rb1062]

Voting to govern ourselves and strengthen our borders is dumb?

[@allangeorge4824]

Dumbest thing voted for ever

[@someblokecalleddave1]

@@rb1062 You're just trolling me - a wind up merchant.

[@rb1062]

@@someblokecalleddave1 I ask something you can't answer and you call it trolling? Critical thinking isn't your thing, is it? A strong Remoaner trait, I find.

[@markwelch3564]

​@@rb1062so what border did we strengthen? How is our vote better, when our votes used to shape a continent, and now they just cover one (and a bit of an) island?

[@MikkelKjrJensen]

It is saying something that even at this point, even amongst people who think Brexit was a bad idea, that they still use "Europe" to denote continental Europe. Still with their speech they mark the UK as something that is separate from Europe, when it is only the European mainland the UK is not a part of.

[@gnosticnonsense9829]

"The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter" Winston Churchill

[@brianbell3836]

By definition, 50% of the electorate are of Below Average Intelligence.

[@lajollapowell4068]

We have to remember that large parts of the population voted for this- and would do again because they believe Farage - and will again- as we get poorer it will get worst - I don’t see any way out -we’ve shown we’re not Europeans and the breakup has been bad and the divorce much worst. Now we are behaving like stalkers wanted to come back in for dinner 😢

[@williammoore9609]

David Cameron is to blame how can you call a referendum with absolutely no plan b! If he was pro EU he should have come out and said it.

[@AndrewBuckleBookReviews]

Yes, very rarely gets a mention - can't forgive him at all (along with Bodger, Farage, etc)

[@suewilkinson993]

And why did he say they would abide by the result of an "advisory" referendum. Why was it decided on a simple majority, should have been something like 60% - 40% at least. The government of the time insisted that a certain percentage of union members must vote and a certain percentage of those must agree before any change can be made eg industrial action. Even Farage said beforehand that if it was 52/48 to remain it would not be over.

[@rayc9539]

​@suewilkinson993 Yeah, Farage said something like "it would be unfinished business" Well, now the reality of brexit has come to light. For remainers, it will never be over.

[@duncancheslett2936]

Sadly, rejoining the EU is not a realistic prospect for many decades at least. Even membership of the Single Market and/or Customs Union is probably unattainable. The primary reason we need to harp on about the stupidity of Brexit is to make sure that Farage and his like are not taken seriously by sufficient of the impressionable U.K. electorate…

[@anandvn5654]

9:52 don't forget the Bats. The fish. The newspaper wrapping at the chippy..... You remember those callers i'm sure

[@brianbell3836]

Mmmmm! The newspaper wrapping the fish and chips! BRITISH fish and BRITISH chips!

[@ivolube8571]

Hello from Germany. I wish we had just a half James O`Brien in german journalism. It‘s always erfrischung to listen to him, no meter the topic. A journalist who uses his brain and quiet effectively in my opinion. Nonne of hose left in germany.

[@peterrear2864]

Even now i struggle to understand why so many vited to leave. It defies all logic and common sense,now we all have to suffer

[@TheOutsider840]

What don't you get about not wanting primacy of EU law (being able to exclusively elect your lawmakers), enhanced discretion over EU migration (which had caused significant competition for jobs, reduced worker bargaining power and contributed extensively to housing demand in the UK) and wanting an opt out from further EU federalism which the UK public were never really consulted on (no votes held for accession, Maastricht, Lisbon treaties etc.

[@robmckenzie9559]

​@@TheOutsider840 how did EU law have jurisdiction in the UK? This isn't a trick question.

[@Donaldson7185]

​@@robmckenzie9559You will never get an answer. They were told a lie , but they can't admit they got con by a conman ..

[@SuperRipper1888]

​@robmckenzie9559 no it's gaslighting.

[@TheOutsider840]

@@robmckenzie9559 As an EU member UK had to abide by laws made at an EU level (i.e laws passed by EU institutions). Perhaps you could elaborate on your question because it seems a rather obvious answer. Look up 'primacy of EU law'

[@1dallesa]

Preach Mr.

[@joshuaogle7367]

No group of "winners" is as nakedly ashamed of themselves as Brexiteers. "You lost get over it!" "Just move on!" "It's done, why are we still talking about it?" Anyone would think they were too embarrassed to examine the consequences of their own actions.

[@msa-tt4bg]

With great reluctance and a heavy heart, James tells us how right he was and still is.

[@Lynnpjjbdndji]

The European Union would not let The UK Join.... We have nothing to offer !!!!

[@manvbees]

Haha nothing to offer. We were one of only 9 net contributors to the EU budget. I guarantee you the dent left it their funds when we departed was quite a sting. To say we had nothing to offer is just an objective lie.

[@ClannCholmain]

@@manvbeeshave you seen the dent in your funds.

[@ClannCholmain]

I’m an Irish citizen and I’d be delighted to see you back for literally any number of reasons.

[@manvbees]

@@ClannCholmain personally no. I am better off financially now than I was when we were in the EU. Not that there is any connection. I've been to multiple EU countries since brexit with no noticeable impact to travel. If anything the 'non EU' passport control is often quicker than the EU gates and now I got lots of lovely stamps in my passport 😅 I've travelled by ferry, plane, rail. In the past 12 months I've been to Brussels, Poznan, Lisbon, Copenhagen, Oslo, Egypt, India, mauritius, maldives. The impact of leaving the EU to the average brit has been negligible. I'm sorry a few businesses have had to fill in extra paperwork and some people aren't able to have their second home in France and Spain as easily but from a purely selfish point of view it hasn't impacted me at all. People need to stop holding up the EU on pedestal. It's just an international protection conglomerate designed to protect member interests. It has a couple of warm fuzzy outreach elements to benefit deprived areas but essentially it's there to protect EU producers from outside competition. This was often to detriment of UK consumers.

[@ClannCholmain]

@@manvbees I’m talking about the estimated one hundred billion dent per year in lost economic activity in the United Kingdom.

[@kimcarne7733]

We need to keep the pressure up🇪🇺❤🇬🇧💯

[@pontig01]

I don’t know about the UK, but James definitely hasn’t 😂

[@leviathon2]

Thankfully

[@msa-tt4bg]

He should be telling us about Labour's achievements.

[@aivarasabromaitis3870]

Such a sweet rant. Music to my ears...

[@EcoSailor]

Well said James. I'm right there with you. It's just incredible that having admitted that the British economy has taken such a huge dive because of the self sanctions imposed by their Tory predecessors (it was only an advisory referendum after all) that the new Labour government isn't making it a priority to dismantle every barrier and get us back to where we belong. United with the EU, our greatest allies, and rebuilding the relationships broken by Brexit.

[@mrbrownz554]

@EcoSailor EU is falling apart Germany have had enough

[@EcoSailor]

@mrbrownz554 The breakup of the EU would only benefit Putin, which is why Russian money poured into the vote leave campaign. Brexit has hurt Britain. Get over it.

[@AcrylicPixel]

We’ve had short term prime ministers. Why can’t we have short term referendums?

[@oldsunshine1505]

Well said James as always

[@BrianCharlesThomas-dp9du]

You are so right, James.

[@martinrooms3084]

I can't make my mind up, 600 million customers or 50 million, it's a poser

[@emastro]

I hate disagreeing with James, but on this, Wes Streeting is right: there is no appetite in Europe to renegotiate Britain's access to the SIngle Market, and *especially* to re-fight the battles that have been fought for 40 years in the British media about free movement, "unelected bureaucrats", "European superstate" and so on. I'm sorry but people talking about rejoining, or worse, joining the single market and the CU and adopting the four freedoms WITHOUT having a say in the EU Parliament or Commission as if it was easy to negotiate and politically safe, seem as detached from reality as brexiters who thought Europe needed Britain more than Britain needed Europe. You jumped out of a window 8 years ago, and after hitting the pavement you seem to be asking someone to close the window because you'd like to un-jump. That's not how reality works. If you wanna rejoin, that's the queue. I believe your place is right behind Albania and Montenegro.

[@jsanders100]

What about the 48%?

[@markdavies9054]

I don’t think you are disagreeing with James.

[@marlasota]

Exactly, if Britain comes back, they need to ask nicely and there will be no rebates, no opt-outs or anti European propaganda. Britain was not an easy partner to work with.

[@camilarodrigues1007]

I think we don’t need them, even if they re apply… let them have their island and wave

[@yeswaycommunications]

We regularly have enquiries to supply and install equipment in France etc. Wouldn't know where to start now, The system used to be easy to understand. Losing serious money!

[@FRANKIECULLEN-r3g]

move your company to the eu or ireland.

[@neecierussell595]

Keep sharing 😊

[@keithrodgers1030]

tax dodging billionaires did well while worker conditions,environmental quality for citizens got destroyed their lives.

[@thesunisout2858]

After the referendum, Britain just changed its name to Brexit.

[@januszdelondres]

the main beneficiary of brexit is team poo-tin.

[@Gabriel_H77]

How so? I keep seeing people say this but I still don't see a reasonable explanation. UK foreign policy and intervention has been tied to the US since the end of WW2. Our membership, or lack thereof, of the EU has never had an effect on that. We still liase just as closely with the EU on security matters, as most (all at this point?) are also NATO allies. So how exactly does Putin benefit?

[@petelawless811]

@@Gabriel_H77 they have no evidence just childish insults

[@Rook.Kaiser]

yes,always blame other people. forever victim.

[@jimwest7107]

So no Eurosceptics could lay a glove on the EU because of Putin?

[@aleph8888]

After Brexit the UK led Europe in supporting Ukraine, and led Europe in containing China through membership of AUKUS and CPTPP. None of these things would have happened without Brexit.

[@andrewwatson5324]

You can't move on while you can still feel the impact on your way of life or livelihood and you see the moves against your human rights coming next from the same bunch of crooks.

[@AndrewBuckleBookReviews]

Nope, I haven't moved on ... still the worst decision this country has made in recent years. Would vote join in a second.

[@richardduployen6429]

I would prefer voting for a pro-European party in a general election. We don't want a repeat of the recent British E. U. "referendum". Politicians should get off the fence regarding Europe.

[@marionlarkin1161]

James, I feel your pain. Look after yourself. In this moment, that’s all you can do, my friend.