LBJ and Lady Bird Johnson, 10/15/64, 9.12A.

Telephone Conversation between President Johnson and Mrs. Johnson.
Citation No.: 5895
October 15,1964
Time: 9:12AM
Location: NYC
Speakers: President Johnson and Claudia Alta "Lady Bird" Johnson
General Topics: Crime & Law Enforcement; Elections; First Lady; LBJ Personal; LBJ Travel; Investigations; National Politics; Presidency; Press Relations; Public Relations; WH Administration
Topics: Lady Bird Johnson Discusses Ways To Offer Support To Walter And Marjorie Jenkins Following His Arrest On Morals Charge; Marjorie Jenkins' View Of Incident; Discussion Of Need To Balance Personal Feelings With Concerns Of Office Of President
More info on the LBJ telephone conversations: www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/...
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[@TonyBi]

wow! lady bird johnson was a very loyal friend and she even twisted lyndon to seeing things as she did. she was pretty tough and plenty smart.

[@chumbemojerret1017]

WOW, my kind of woman Lady Bird was / is. Very benevolent yet diligently assertive smart and intelligent.

[@jonchaney]

I felt sorry for lady bird at the beginning of this convo, then at the end I felt sorry for lbj. I respect this lady after hearing this.

[@rareblues78daddy]

Damn. I just gained a whole new level of respect for both Lady Bird and Lyndon. She wanted to do the world to help Jenkins, and Lyndon was trying his best to explain why they couldn't do it in the political climate, without berating Walter. Wow, just... wow.

[@robertcummings892]

Respect for that man? You need to look up Billie Sol-Estes, Henry Marshall, Mac Wallace, Madeline Duncan Brown, just to name a few!

[@aguy559]

@@robertcummings892 What about them?

[@trentbdog]

Wow! That is an awesome lady. And the conversation shows how much they respected each other, even when they disagreed.

[@wccaguy1]

Wow, that’s Intense, cold, and warm at the same time. Complex situation

[@kevinivers]

The incident with Walter Jenkins was something out of an ancient time for gay and lesbian Americans, and it was tragic what happened under the circumstances. While President Johnson's political judgment in this conversation was appropriate for the time, the First Lady's moral instinct and compassion was fierce and correct.

[@sebastian19739]

That lady was something else. They don’t build them like that no more.

[@broketobroker4573]

damnnnnnn Lady Bird politickin circles around the Master.

[@gmoney8585]

bird was a BOSS😦

[@aguy559]

Interesting to note the difference in dialects. She was from east Texas, he was from south central Texas.

[@Eastbound84]

I love how she draws out her words.

[@morticindavis9410]

Wow, so much mutual respect for each other. I like how she calls her husband “ beloved”.

[@teresalinton5898]

Mrs. Johnson was the nicest woman

[@XanaduAsia]

JFK always liked Lady Bird, contrasted by his indifference to LBJ. Clearly LBJ is concerned about his election, which was not hurt by this incident. Jenkins returned to Austin and spent the rest of his life as a CPA, dying at the age of 67 from a stroke.

[@relicman]

Well after 64 Lyndon never ran again. He could've ran in 68 but declined because Richard Nixon was so popular, but he could've given a way better election than McGovern did.

[@Eastbound84]

What is KCBC where she was offering the number two job?

[@michaelwalsh719]

C

[@BossAttack]

If you've ever read Robert Caro's biographies of LBJ then you know how terribly LBJ treated Lady Bird. He ordered her around like a dog to the point it made guests around him uncomfortable. That's in addition to all the infidelity.

[@fairfaxcat1312]

What did Jenkins do?

[@martinjenkins5471]

He was caught in homosexual acts. Pretty saucy for the times, and LBJ being such a alpha male.

[@nightowl5475]

1olddirtroad My God! What the hell is this country coming to!

[@JerrythePope]

He got caught in the act of getting banged in the butt by another guy at a YMCA..

[@johnnotrealname8168]

@@JerrythePope WoW and he was only charged for disorderly conduct? Should have gotten worse.

[@TheWilliamBWilliams]

Lady Bird puts Melania to shame as First Lady.

[@teresalinton5898]

true--melania did nothing but look good

[@marycull3607]

@@teresalinton5898 Trump again. You lot cannot leave them alone. Obsessed with him and his family. They call it TDS. Malania did quite a lot in four years, but fake news never acknowledged her great work with children especially children with special needs. Those were different times back then. But Malania did council her husband and then President through many problems he faced. He calls her his rock. And in years to come you may hear phone calls between them, and I bet they are very loving conversations. They both have a lot of respect for one another. Not like Jill only thinking of the money when her husband has lost all sense, and given the country to the highest bidder.,