Le Mans Ultimate BEING SOLD - What Does This Mean For Sim Racing?

[@motelghost477]

The last thing we sim racers want is for iRacing to own every license out there. Monopolies are never a good thing.

[@Norinot1]

Especially with their crazy microtransaction system and payment system, never ever I wanna go back to that game.

[@Kireth]

Looks like 2025 could be iRacing vs ACE

[@caledonianrailway1233]

I mean I wish I could afford iracing I’m stuck with forza rn and while it’s fun the comp scene just isn’t big enough there

[@toro4271]

Only fine if Iracing takes it and keeps it as a separate game, with its current pay model still in tact

[@Lakedistrictrider]

​@@KirethAMS2 has a big update incoming

[@KP-mw7lj]

It is a devastating news ,LMU is such a special and ambitious project compared to other sim racing titles,it’s not about the money I paid for all the content but I do love this game so much.

[@Kireth]

Fingers crossed they get the funding

[@slatanek]

Shame they didn't focus on making the game not crash and instead gave us frankly underwhelming DLCs.

[@shielder1907]

No, not ea, please not, dont ruin atleast this...

[@carsonpoland]

and also not iracing...

[@rz5090]

I agree, they ruined Battlefield for me when Dice merged with them.

[@moldysporks2233]

@@carsonpolandiracing would probably buy the licence and dump LMU,which is even worse

[@Kireth]

Finally we may get the sequel to Project Cars 3 we all want 🙌🙌🙌

[@moldysporks2233]

@@Kireth i pray it doesn’t go to that outcome,im way too broke to get iracing

[@myweirdtaste8090]

LMU is my favourite sim. I hope for its bright future!

[@Kireth]

It's a fun sim to drive

[@slatanek]

I hope they'll learn a lesson from this - your game hard crashing constantly, having memory leaks while you release multiple paid DLCs is a huge red flag to people

[@GeometryEX-hp9zs]

@@slatanek The correct approach is usually to optimize, sometimes code, sometimes models or textures. Solve the fundamental problems of the game. Then make additional paid DLC. Obviously they did it the wrong way. This will not bring sales, but will make players leave faster.

[@slatanek]

@@GeometryEX-hp9zs agree

[@lincolnklayvr]

LeMans Ultimate is my favorite sim , this is devastating news

[@rossjmcgregor]

Having worked for Traxion before and after MSG ownership I'd just like to correct Kireth to say we ALWAYS made people aware of our ownership. Every single article and video on an MSG title featured a disclaimer saying exactly that. We were editorially independent at all times, so we said NASCAR 21 was terrible, because it was. Likewise, we were generally favourable to rFactor 2, because it was generally quite good.

[@fingers68]

The statement he's made re "near half of the people working on LMU are gone". If it is untrue I don't think they will just post something here to correct him.

[@TheD9000]

For everyone who loves LMU, keep playing it and everything will be fine. With a solid player base an Investor will found shortly and the Future will shine bright.

[@Kireth]

Paging Corsair

[@slatanek]

If they fix the game crashes I'll play. It's the lesst stable piece of software I've used in the last 30 years. Windows Me comes to mind. LMU has memory leaks which have been reported and were left unresolved. I can't invest in a sim where I'll practice for an hour and then the game crashes to desktop while I'm loading into the actual onlone race. It happens in offline races too. And when you monitor RAM usage it can go as far as 24GB of usage while seemingly doing nothing (browsing menus, changing settings etc). With 16GB of RAM you're cooked, which is absolutely unacceptable.

[@Sean-ps3ec]

GOOD GOD don't let EA touch this fucking game

[@Kireth]

EA LMU 25?

[@KluchaDJL]

@@Kirethnever, ea destroys everything they toutch

[@sy2681]

if iracing take it it will be subscription this would kill it off, this would be the same for EA renown for destroying games

[@Kireth]

So what happens now?

[@Jack_Andrews3]

Difference is that Iracing don’t kill the games… they’re one of the only leading sim titles that actually makes genuine updates

[@clearjty]

@@Jack_Andrews3 but iracing ruins affordability

[@sy2681]

@@Jack_Andrews3 May be I was been to harsh saying they kill games what I should of said, If iracing take it everything will be monetised in Le Mans, I just don't think it will sit well with currently Le Man fans and a lot of sim racing fans across the board. The game needs to be brought by a dev who wants to enter the sim racing genre rather than a dev who wants to eat the market up for gains. That way Le Mans would succeed. Yes Iracing is one of the leading sim racing games, but I can think of better racing games that don't cost a arm and a leg to play and they release genuine updates to, also to say the least do you get what you pay for with Iracing? I know they laser scan tracks and make a lot of content etc but with all the money they have made why does the platform feel like its still lives in the 2008?, graphics and some of the physics?, So what exactly you getting for the money you pay?

[@drconflict629]

@@Jack_Andrews3 Lmao sure bud. Keep huffing that copium.

[@Kaylos29]

My dream would be Reiza picking it up if they ramped up for consoles. They don't have the capital being a small studio/ business, but it would solve their engine issue where EA now owns the madness engine and it would give them the wec and imsa licenses combined.

[@RalstigRacing]

Reiza buying it would be amazing!

[@buddy5088]

Imagine wishing for EA to take over a LU and beg for ultimate team concepts and ideas. WTF?

[@astergabe]

Tought the same thing

[@Kireth]

I didn't even buy FIFA this year because I just want to play offline on my legion go. Ultimate team might be big bucks in short term, but 100% puts people off

[@Lakedistrictrider]

Yeah, awful

[@david328ci]

Please no EA. They’ve already destroyed F1 racing.

[@hueginvieny7959]

Just bought the game, and the season passes. the game is great and has a lot of potential. I hope the game gets bought and continues to get updates

[@ShaunWordIsBond]

Why does everyone have an issue with subscriptions? There’s a reason why iRacing is the best overall online competitive sim. Subscriptions keep them around and able to consistently improve.

[@Lakedistrictrider]

Subscription would be ok if you didn't have to buy content. Either have it as dlc or subs, not both.

[@rutar2008]

For the money you spent buying LMU on launch you can only get one track and one car in iRacing. iRacing is the epitome of greed, not only you have to pay a monthly subscription just to play the game, but you also start with very little content, and have to spend an absurd amount of money to buy more cars and tracks. Also the graphics are beyond outdated and despite all the money they gain they are unable to fix their numerous problems with its ffb (very inferior compared to LMU for example) or the netcode problems.

[@ArturoDrives]

It’s worth the price tbh.

[@ArturoDrives]

Haha, haha. Yeah keep crying and saying Iracing is the “epitimy of greed” they seem to have loads of issues when it comes to consistently being the biggest best online sim for 15+ years.

[@jansedlak8505]

​@@ArturoDrives If you live in US, then ypu can probably afford it, but in my country it's just too f*****g expensive.

[@LHKRacing399_GColeman]

Dam it! Just brought it last week... with the season pass!? Hope we at least still get that content!! Personally loving the game. Be a shame to see it die...

[@Kireth]

You should definitely get £30 value out of it

[@Nick_Kearney]

A correction. iRacing does not have all the cars from the WEC. In fact they don't even have all the cars from IMSA at the moment. They only have 4 LMH cars in their IMSA configuration. They have the wrong LMP2 car. They have some but not all GT3 cars from IMSA and the WEC. But most disapointing of all, they are missing the Aston Martin Vantage GTE from the GTE feild. The reason it's the most disapointing is the other cars are currently racing in the real world so they will probably get added. But the Aston Martin Vantage GTE is retired so there's not much hope of it getting added to iRacing's roster.

[@Kireth]

True. But iracing moved with GT3s quicker

[@10mmGR]

the only gt3s I can think of that iracing dont have are the aston martin and the lexus. Cant blame them if they dont add the lexus as its retiring. More than likely they have a license with dallara that prevents them from adding the other lmp2 manufactures. Cant disagree about the LMH cars tho. They have half the grid of the WEC prototype lineup. I would like iracing to atleast integrate the proper battery deployment system that WEC and IMSA have before adding more prototypes though. Im sick of battling to pass someone and as soon as i get past they just swtich it into attack mode to pass me right back.

[@marijn17s]

They don't have the "wrong" lmp2 car. The dallara chassis is still homologated for LMP2, but since there is no BoP everyone chooses the OP oreca chassis. They can't put the oreca in iRacing because motorsport games has the license for it.

[@khodamn1]

People have no idea how much renting servers and the infrastructure behind it costs. It's expensive!

[@Kireth]

Costs loads for KZbin to host and stream mu content 😅

[@chrisbostock7446]

I like that you are using your platform to essentially advertise this game for sale haha. It’s a great foundation that I enjoy driving in, so I hope it gets brought and the effort it deserves put into it for us to enjoy! 🙏🏻

[@Kireth]

Kaz to buy LMU?

[@Savagepaddy]

Corsair might buy it 😂

[@Kireth]

Bro think you got videos confused 😅

[@Savagepaddy]

@@Kireth 🤣

[@simracingjunky9679]

Only reason I didn't buy it is lack of vr support. If the VR in Evo is as good as they say it's going to be, well I won't have much time for other sims.

[@crowlerspraw6998]

+VR in steam launch settings and your good to go. I would recommend if your ever looking for something new

[@Kireth]

Likewise. It sounds like it's basically in but if it was officially supported would be another string in the bow

[@simracingjunky9679]

@@crowlerspraw6998 I know that. I just wont compromise for anything less then AMS2 VR right now. Sick of new sims coming out with crappy vr. I think vr is the future of sim racing if done right.

[@BarkeeperMoe]

iRacing publishing LMU in the future.. ok. But implementing the license into iRacing? Hell I hope not..

[@AutistaXR]

I hope iRacing doesn't buy this game. LMU had plans for consoles and iR would never do that. Consoles need a good sim too. ACC is great, but small.

[@Kireth]

Not sure what iracing priorities are after the exocross game!

[@mlondipraiseworth3223]

Buy pc Why stick to console?

[@wolfgamingnetwork3542]

Iracing has made 3 console games already with another one coming in 2025

[@ArturoDrives]

Bro Iracing is literally developing a console game right now fym?

[@virtual_GaRy]

It's not true that it's half of the people at msg, and it's especially not true that it's half of the developers. They are cutting people who are not core game developer staff. The primary source can easily be found on the Motorsports games website.

[@Kireth]

Look at the figures in October 2023 compared to now before saying it isn't true

[@virtual_GaRy]

@@Kireth of course its not good news, but the all the developers I know are still there. Its people who did admin, accounting, early game work such as assets primarily which have unfortunately lost their jobs. I hope there will be a good investor, who values a racing simulator in their portfolio. Something which we will only see in the future.

[@fingers68]

The first 20 seconds is just made up nonsense. Quite a damaging thing to say.

[@fingers68]

What's been said in this vid is untrue and potentially damaging.

[@carlosangalang]

Besides the WEC license, is LMU that differentiated from the other established sim racing titles? I do like the latest update which made VR more playable. And the scheduled daily races is a welcome feature. But iLMU is still a hard sell to complete simracing noobs because of the polished, complete games available like ACC, AC, AMS2 and GT7. As a more veteran, casual simracer, I have a hard time carving time to play LMU over the other sims I've mentioned. LMU may be bought at a fire sale price by another company for the license, but not for any unique tech

[@Kireth]

Good point on differentiation, or lack of in the messaging

[@Sim-Racingsandrewadair-cn2kp]

I need to correct you on the licenses in regards to Le Mans Ultimate. iRacing ONLY has those for the cars racing in IMSA. We are talking BMW, Cadillac and Porsche. (Not including Acura here, as they are not racing WEC, only in IMSA so MSG is unlikely to have any licenses to that car.) The LMDh licenses, which iRacing does not officially have, are Alpine and Lamboghini, also all the LMH cars. Those being Toyota, Ferrari, Glickenhaus, Peugeot, Isotta Fraschini.

[@robcrisdale]

Iracing have added a number of Rfactor designer and developers - RfPro Terence Groening being 1. Wouldn't be too far fetched for Iracing to purchase- but they are working on own new Graphics Engine to implement Iracing 2.0 as well as new tyre and physics model update

[@virtualrealitymotorsports9158]

LMU is the best Sim and I did purchase the Season pass for that reason, I trust that Studio397 won’t let us sown

[@Squeezy01]

Last thing I want is EA buying it. They will just milk it to the ground...

[@ArturoDrives]

They gonna release a new bugfix every year and sell it for 80$ as if it was a new game 😂

[@toutpt]

The game doesn't have to be the best. It needs a good money / value ratio. They can't charge a subscription with so many bugs. I bet on a buy and just take the licenses.

[@rickrolled7930]

I can't justify paying even for dlcs when my game crashes in loading screens almost daily, is optimised worse than a samsung fridge and lacks so much content (the only thing i can do in that single player is race weekend, nothing more). Not to even mention the overall lack of polish and detail. But what is interesting is that when it works (rare sight), it is perfect. And the attention to detail in the cars is there. How many sim games have functional and adjustable lift and coast lights? Or ARBs? The game isn't bad, it's just unfinished.

[@bradoncars973]

Just bought it today. Perhaps should have searched first. However, if we want sim racing to prosper, we have to buy the games.

[@rolanddo4989]

I was waiting for full release and vr support. Shame they couldnt get there.

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

Stop waiting and support the devs! This happens when to many people are holding off!

[@steelin666]

If iRacing buys LMU, it's a catastrophe for simracing. LMU with its Race Control online platform is a cheap ranked racing alternative for iRacing, with multiple split ranked races, something that only iRacing offered first-party with high fidelity simulation underneath until recently, and for a hefty premium price. If iRacing buys LMU, they will basically get rid of their biggest threat and reinforce their monopoly on online racing and ability to charge exorbitant premium with their scummy business model that locks you out from the content you paid for separately if you stop paying for subscription. And, of course, it's the simracers themselves who create this shitty situation for themselves, by criticizing LMU's business model, which includes DLCs during early access, which you are not by any means forced to buy to enjoy the game in its base form, both online and offline, and which won't even lock you out from future GT3 class, because two cars will be available for free. But at the same time they religiously defend iRenting's model which FORCES you to pay subscription to use the content you already paid for. Double standards at its highest.

[@ArturoDrives]

I don’t get why people hate iracings pricing model so much, yeah it’s expensive but there’s a reason it’s the biggest online sim and has been for over 15 years. Clearly Iracing is doing something right, tough luck it’s expensive but it costs loads to get the content they have.

[@steelin666]

@@ArturoDrives I just told you why people hate it. It's because you're forced to pay subscription to retain access to content you paid for separately. There's no reason to lock the content from you to use for single player, except to force you to keep paying that sub. It's so scummy that some people got their money back after requesting their legal right to access their purchases after cancelling their subscription (and were banned from the service for the audacity to do so).

[@stayynfresh]

@@steelin666 that Arturo guy represents a large portion of the vocal iracers. His response LITERALLY answers his own question. the sim is Fxcking expensive. Iracing have brainwashed these poeple into believing that the pricing is justified.

[@DuddleBug5]

Watch when NASCAR 25 comes out everyone is gonna want iracing to make indycar game and wec games etc and these type of comments will be irrelevant

[@pirotehs]

7:30 Yes You are right. When I was in iRacing's practice session with Lando Norris and Max Verstappen, it didn't feel like F1 22 racing sessions with licenced liveries and........ WHAT ARE YOU TALIKNG ABOUT! IT WAS WAY MORE COOLER being in the same session with real Lando and Max. And not just car paint and name on the screen. This guy knows nothing about simracing.

[@Kireth]

Humblebrag 😅😅

[@eenuVERSE]

If they charge such exorbitant price for an unfinished game ...what else did they expect ?

[@StoneHillRally]

Hopefully not iRacing we don’t won’t monopoly! I love rFactor 2 and this is like an extension with polished graphics and UI. The one possible option not mentioned here could be Project Motorsport! That could be interesting.

[@mitchelldiaz1991]

I can not believe this game will not be developed anymore. The product itself is awesome. Its already very good with its bugs, crashes, poor optimization, limited cars, tracks and content. Somebody has to see this product, buy it and keep developing.

[@NWA_1919]

The sim still has no competitve serious racing. Only public lobbies with no enforced rules. People just wreck you on purpose if you try to go for an overtake, and there is no penalty for it. I doubt anyone cares to drive like this

[@philbaythorpe6347]

Holy crap - but what makes you say it hangs in the balance? Where's the evidence? Unless I've missed something here??

[@Poncheezy]

He's a drama queen. Just go to msg website and I'm sure the facts are not as extreme

[@Kireth]

A market statement was made as MSG is listed on NASDAQ. I monitor these market statements across sim racing

[@tjones666]

If they weren’t trying to nickel & dime us by charging for DLC in early access, with piss all content for the base game, I’d buy it.

[@alexanderkramarsky4923]

Maybe they will fix the temperature grip model eventually. And FFB like in rF2

[@rickrolled7930]

The tire temp model is very good according to romain grosjean who tested the sc63 hypercar when it came out.

[@gsprings43]

Just seems like a tough business,,,most people i know that play video games don't play sims or racing games,,,,you really have to put out something that stand out

[@viktorianas]

AMS2 for racing, ACE for chilling and RBR RSF for rally, enough for 10 years for me.

[@sickrick5948]

Boughtfanatec wheel went into liquidation bought lmu felt and looked great now its being sold what happens to rest of DLC

[@SackyX]

Seeing as Fanatec is sold to Corsair, I think that they would be a good buyer. I'm so against pay to play.

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

Easiest question to answer, No you shouldn’t buy anything until they have a contingency plan set in stone. Don’t ever recommend EA for any sim ever again!!!!!!

[@ItsFayleneHopes]

Let’s be honest, Kunos is the hero that we all need but don’t deserve

[@TXLennardLP]

LMU is by far the best Sim for me out there right now. It's a lot more fun play in comparison to every single other sim for me

[@fingers68]

I hope for your sake your source is true and correct, what your saying is damaging.

[@menacegtr]

Its what he seems good at, does best, creating drama were none needs creating

[@Numbah893]

It would be ideal for WEC to own Le Mans Ultimate. It goes exactly with their real life series. I dont see why they wouldnt buy it. It wont surprise me if iRacing buys it either.

[@denesk2794]

I liked the the looks and the handling. I hated: - no VR (yes there is, but a mess, no options ) - too few tracks - DLC (see few tracks) before full release - more DLC before full release - bad AI (cannot turn at speed, they slow down way too much in turns) - no server browser - only scheduled events, no practice rooms... I just want to be able to jump into some race that's 15-20 minutes like ACC or others. Sure, iRacing's model is OK for what it is, but to do some quick casual race, and then there is one race every hour and ...... I just am not willing do deal with that with a half-ready game. ... Didn't buy any DLC because VR doesn't work as it should. I thought I would support the game, but no .... DLC before full release is unacceptable IMHO .... selling skins, etc, battlepass is OK .... but to give you 5 tracks, then buy DLC when half the people have technical issues and VR players are just left on the side is a sh1t move .... So .. yep ... someone ran this company into the ground with bad decisions....

[@Kireth]

Dang. Would have been great to see VR officially supported

[@rickrolled7930]

You can't just jump into a 15 minute race because this is supposed to be the wec (world ENDURANCE championship) game, so it's ok for it to have longer and more serious/less jump in and drive races. What doesn't make me happy about it is the poor optimisation and choppy/sttutering gameplay (i see dudes with 4080s get choppy/visible frames) and the paid dlcs. This game isn't even out of early access and dlcs already?

[@TheDawinci]

Where did you get this news from? I cant find any source that Studio397 is for sale.

[@Kireth]

The United States Securities and Exchange Commission

[@TheDawinci]

@@Kireth How about you send a link for the source? I can't find anything on Google or the SEC site. Not even any KZbinr is reporting this.

[@fingers68]

​​@@TheDawinci he's making a very specific damaging statement about the amount of people working on LMU and I don't think it's based on any fact. According to him nearly half of the people working on LMU are gone. There will be many people who have watched this video and been put off buying LMU because of that statement.

[@TheDawinci]

@@fingers68 His not backed up facts look like a click bait.. Or just speculation I don't know. Strange anyways

[@2011KSB]

They seem to be consolidating resources and trying to increase shareholder value on the heels of the LMU success. Not sure that one can surmise that the company is being sold from the SEC filing, but it does say they are considering strategic alternatives (which could mean other investors).

[@Ripperx121]

The trend of sim games of you buy the base game and it has nothing doesn't do anything for me. I bought iRacing and RF2 for example. I racing I paid for a year subscription because it was on sale. And...... I got nothing. I play ACC the most because they let you play the game. I don't mind buying an expansion but like Raceroom wants what 120 dollars for everything? Really?

[@simfaisolutions9237]

How much are they selling? Am keen to buy over 👍💪

[@stormmy66]

LeMans Ultimate is currently my favourite sim, I hope it doesn't go to iRacing that would be very bad for the hobby.

[@mbezik]

isnt LMU just essentially a DLC for RF2 packaged as a full game

[@ArturoDrives]

Yeah it’s pretty much just rf2 but just wec

[@wolfgamingnetwork3542]

Good video but 1 mistake you said was Motorsport games never made a nascar game Motorsport games did make a console nascar game Nascar 21 ignition Switch game Nascar Rivals And a 2022 DLC for nascar heat 5

[@DuddleBug5]

Except NASCAR 21 ignition was so bad at launch it killed the NASCAR gaming space now iracing is making NASCAR 25 which will probably make NASCAR gaming good again

[@hueginvieny7959]

Also is WEC going to let the name sake game fail it be nice if IMSA was added by the buyer

[@kevinhadj82]

Let folks from Rennsport buy it as they already stole part of the engine code

[@kryptoniteee]

Why is everyone so upset? It’s all about gran turismo. That game has it all.

[@scotthiland5521]

My issue with iRacing is simply that I won't pay for a monthly subscription to use. My life is busy and there are months I find it hard to login to sim race much at all. Also, 50% of my sim racing time is spent on single player and iRacing is not built for that. Don't get me wrong, iRacing is good... however, I can't justify the cost as it is expensive with its cost model. If they for once just sold a full game like a Le Mans ultimate without their subs. I would be all for it, but we know that will not happen. AND NO WE DON'T WANT EA's FINGURES ON ANYTHING!!

[@DarthUrso]

Red Flags from the get go with LMU and they were charging for extra content without a game(EA does not count). This is a dumpster fire ...Happy I didn't waste the money.

[@wolfgamingnetwork3542]

Red flag should have been Nascar 21 ignitions horrible launch

[@10mmGR]

Not surprised. Motorsport games a have a history of mismanaging money. Said it from the beginning that they would probably not finish the game. Hope whoever buys it does the WEC license justice.

[@ExodiaNecross2]

Hope this comes too console so i can represent BMW

[@wifiThief]

"loading screens took forever even with my 4090" what your GPU has to do with loading times? LOL mate...

[@bdiddymack]

I think he's referring to the menu running at .00001fps in the beginning which was a major problem. I'm not sure how it was solved but it could have been a GPU issue. Let's face it, they have brought all the problems from rf2 and a few special new ones. Rf2 always felt like it was never quite a finished product and the dangling carrot never materialized. Here we are again, another game with bugs and basic features missing, in early access and now working on its third dlc release? I just don't understand how people don't see that msg is literally pissing in the faces of their customers. This shit was never going to work with how they do business. Rumors again about unrest at msg, can you not read between the lines? My anger comes from the fact that they squandered all the potential from my favorite sim that I had put thousands of hours into, and they're doing it again but this time I'm not going to let myself be disappointed. Fool me once... Anyways, the only reason lmu even debuted when it did is because max verstappen went off on them after the last virtual 24 hours of le mans. Why did he go off on them you ask? Because of years of issues never getting ironed out. Why are so many people unhappy with lmu right now, because of issues that should be fixed in early access before releasing paid content. Are you seeing the trend? Have you played sims from developers that actually care about their customers? (Ams2, beamng). Try not to shit on someone not making the distinction between ram and GPU usage when the five million pound elephant in the room is that msg is pulling the same old crap and screwing their customers. Such wasted potential. Can't count the amount of times I wished reiza had all their licences (and ffb). I digress, end rant.

[@Kireth]

Bad subtitles I mumbled 14900k 👀👀😅😅

[@rickrolled7930]

Well if he has a 4090 he probably also has a monster of a pc as well to support it, so he meant that it takes forever to load even on the best systems out there.

[@ArturoDrives]

It’s got to do with compression of files and optimization, as well as ssd.

[@ArturoDrives]

Holy yapping of yappingtons.

[@theDataDrivenIdiot]

tbh, I just want studio 397 to get the respect and funding they deserve :(

[@Propeler3D]

It is very sad.... I play only LMU and rFactor now and very upset that future of them is so unclear....

[@gsam_dad5540]

2 loser franchises unfortunately...

[@gijsje0015]

Le Mans Ultimate will sell really well when it comes out on console... I know we always whine about it but I really want the game!! I would prefer to hope that Iracing will take over the game because I always hear a lot of good things about the sim and from 2025 they will also make NASCAR games that will also appear on console

[@Davidb4825]

They DID produce a NASCAR game. It was utter garbage though and never fixed. Instead they released skin packs. It's no loss at all...

[@Norinot1]

Le Mans Ultimate was always a title I knew about, and assumed its LMP cars on LeMans 24h that was my assumption and I just never really checked it out, to be fair I'm not sure what kind of market did this game target, don't we have iRacing already that does this kind of stuff? I mean I guess the price point and the time you need to invest to get there is considerable to say the least. Now I've checked it out and I guess its nice, it looks good enough for me to consider playing it but I just don't want to, this market is already filled by other games, why would I swap to this? I'm gonna piss some people off with this one maybe, but why not make an open world game like Forza or Crew that does everything they do, but just have realistic driving and attention to detail for wheel players, I'd even be fine with tuning it so console players can play it too, but like this open world realistic racing game market is quite literally empty, there isn't a single game that does this, and Forza Horizon isn't a contender because the physics are quite bad in comparison to like iRacing or AC, imagine a game where you can drive to the track you will race in from like a semi open world "lobby" or "area" so to say, that would be pretty cool, but I guess it doesn't exist and nobody else thinks its cool. Yet mods like Sutoko are thriving with players and clips, and open world mods for AC is very popular also, isn't this like a clear indication that as players we want that? I don't get this, and I might even be wrong, but I most definitely want this, open world realistic physics racing game.

[@Kireth]

Appreciate you laying out your thoughts!

[@neptune.8108]

It's not surprising they released the game in early access for €33 and immediately started selling paid DLCs, even while it was still in early access. Motorsport Games has been desperate for money even before they began developing LMU. Their best option might be to get acquired by iRacing. If that happens, I’m not sure what the future of the game would look like; but I could assume it would become subscription based, but undoubtedly improve as a sim. However, under no circumstances should they be bought by EA. That would flat out kill the game, just like EA did with the F1 series. LMU has tremendous potential if it gets the funding it needs, but that potential will go down the toilet if EA takes over, as they would shift focus on maximizing profits and catering the game to a more casual audience instead a sim racer one. In a dream world, Motorsport Games get the funding they need, and they can continue to develop the game themselves.

[@Kireth]

Influencers tell me every year that the F1 series will be great at launch 😅

[@MightyMikeVR]

FML... I just bought it and played around 5 hr so my possibility for a refund is gone...

[@marijn17s]

Hope iRacing gets the licenses

[@filipbobula_56]

Everyone but not EA, they will go for mass sale and will destroy everything. Handling will be like in F1, which is made for none wheel players.

[@cesarsc971]

I'd prefer "Warner Bros Games" or "Tenzent"

[@BmikroB]

This is just heartbraking, with the amount of popularity & generally positive reception of LMU I thought Motorsport Games have been finally getting in a good shape financially...

[@SailingFloh]

60 Bucks isn't expensive Iracing costs you a lot more or even F1 24 .....

[@slider9162]

Where’s the official word that it’s up for sale?

[@matthiasgrunwald895]

This is very sad news! Its a great sim with a bright future. Thomas Jackermeier should buy it!

[@iMichael123S]

Corsair are scheduled to become the new owners I hear.

[@acidbunny999]

Iracing should buy LMU and incorporate the sound and graphic engine into iracing. I imagine that would mean LMUs gone though.

[@definitely_not_nick41]

Absolutely not, S397 is better in both graphics and sound compared to iRacing

[@EXLDayzeSRS]

@@definitely_not_nick41 I think you missed the point.. He was acknowledging that by saying that iRacing should use the LMU sound and graphics.. I would agree to that but as a VR racer personally, iRacing has some of the best VR only being beaten by AMS2.. Yes, LMU looks and sounds better otherwise..

[@acidbunny999]

@@EXLDayzeSRS I've read my comment three times, to see if it's clear :D Yeah, VR on iRacing is great. It's the only game/sim where I don't feel like im gonna puke.. So they should get the sound and graphics engine, but keep the VR. Pair it with a new UI, lower the prices just a bit, and oh my god.. Let's stop dreaming, shall we?

[@EXLDayzeSRS]

@@acidbunny999 yeah, I knew what you meant.. Not nick said that 397 is better in graphics and sound which is basically your original point.. If they weren't better, why would we want their graphics and sound for iRacing? I just elaborate a bit with my opinion on vr

[@HaloInR3v3rs3]

Oh hell no with EA. I don't play any F1 titles because the navigation interface sucks.

[@pipeslice7033]

If it goes to iracing then that’ll be it for me , iracing way too expensive I’m afraid

[@Vlame]

It really looks like there is no right competitor on the market right now to buy LMU. Ubisoft is in the mud iRacing will maybe introduce a subscription system or drop it at all if it doesn't sell well. EA will screw up the game

[@ArturoDrives]

Bro why is everybody saying Iracing gonna bring subscription to this 😭 like you guys gotta be joking with this one. And clearly Iracing knows what they are doing with their pricing model, ever thought that despite their “ludicrously expensive pricing model” they are the biggest and best online racing platform and have been for 15 years.

[@DuddleBug5]

@@ArturoDrivesplus there making NASCAR 25. Like that game will probably end up reviving NASCAR games after the disaster NASCAR 21 ignition was by unironically motorsport games………

[@skaylars]

Source?

[@Kireth]

NASDAQ

[@sjorsrozendaal218]

Link?

[@CyrusDarkfur]

iRacing should definitly buy the whole package and then do whatever they need to do to release LMU on consoles, cause they currently have nothing on consoles.

[@Kireth]

Yoooo Cyrus!!!

[@rickrolled7930]

They would probably make it susbscription based. No thanks. The game is already pretty costly for a still unfinished, poorly optimised and lacking in content eraly access release.

[@DuddleBug5]

@@rickrolled7930NO THEY WOULD NOT WORLD OF OUTLAWS GAMES DONT NASCAR 25 MOST LIKELY WONT SO WHY THE BEEP WOULD THEY ADD AOMETHING LIKE TAHT TO A NINCIRQCING GAMEMWMSMSS

[@tactikool4740]

EA can't handle it because it's too much of a sim

[@slatanek]

Good I refunded the last DLC. The game is unfortunately a mess stability wise. There's huge potential, but releasing multiple paid DLCs while not fixing the game blatantly and randomly crashing to desktop was a red flag. I can bare long waiting times and weird little bugs, but the game actually working is priority number 1, which is clear it wasn't for the studio making it. A real shame cause I've seen this coming for a couple months now and I said there's actually no guarantee that the game will actually come out as a full release.

[@MsMrKacper]

I hope that there will be no subscription fee when IRacing buys it and that there will be content in DLC as usual

[@hayerenders4576]

I racing will let you pay for the game. Buy all the cars and tracks again. And then ask a monthly free to play your game 😅

[@DuddleBug5]

Why would iracing put something from iracing into non iracing stuff? It’s not in the world of outlaws games so why would it be on lmu or NASCAR 25 when that comes out next year??????????????????

[@sitramaybe]

WEC SHOULD BE DOING EVERYTHING THEY CAN TO KEEP THIS GAME ALIVE

[@mozo191]

Surprise surprise…. It’s not like nobody called this 😂

[@definitely_not_nick41]

Why would WEC want to change from a dedicated game right to their series, to IRacing, LMU is a cheaper option and quite accessible to many people with the content they’ve got on offer, and EA might be on the verge of losing the F1 licence, and an ultimate team idea on a pure racing sim is bs, F1 is failing because of EA, WEC doesn’t need that

[@Kireth]

So who will provide the funding for LMU to continue?

[@definitely_not_nick41]

@@Kireth 505 Games

[@glitchinthematrix9306]

sounds to me they made a quikc buck and get out as soon as they can.

[@pmacnz]

Not Iracing PLEASE NO!!!

[@spraynardkruger6426]

Iracing physics are lame and their product is too expensive. I love lmu and hope iracing stays away

[@virtualrealitymotorsports9158]

No to iRacing and definitely NO TO EA

[@antjones2281]

Corsair should buy them!

[@gru0058]

Maybe Reiza can get the license

[@Kireth]

Uhh

[@wifiThief]

LOL

[@OzzietechRacing]

they just put the price up as well

[@andsoitwas3046]

WEC won't buy this since ACC is still the officially licensed LM GT3 game.

[@Kireth]

Hmmm

[@mitchelldiaz1991]

60$ is expensive for this game with all 2023 and 2024 content?? Really???

[@rickrolled7930]

And with all the bugs, crashes, unpolished feeling and poor optimisation, plus the game still being in early access so they didn't even finish it and started asking for more cash, yes it is greedy from them.

[@mitchelldiaz1991]

@@rickrolled7930 Im amaze how most people wants all the stuff for “free”. Lets ask the goverment to subsidize video games too.

[@V-Racing]

i was going to buy the season pass for LMU but now i think this might be a bad idea since there is a change that the last two dlc will not be made...

[@Poncheezy]

I advise taking a look at the information for your self. I'm sure the facts are not as extreme as he is making it out to be. I'm still going to support the game. At the end of the day they need money to keep the game going. So I'm all in until they go belly up.

[@lesexpos4469]

I think they will finish the 2 dlc. Is this legal to buy a season pass and not finish the last 2 dlc

[@lesexpos4469]

@@Poncheezyi think you should buy it, the last 2 dlc will still be release I am confident

[@V-Racing]

@@Poncheezy same here, this is my favorite sim to drive and immerse myself, and i'm just hoping it will continue that way

[@lesexpos4469]

@@V-Racing the best way to support the game is to buy their dlc even if they are expensive. They are worth it