✨Radical Remake in 2023?

[@Not_appletree]

“One of my favourite things about radical remakes, are all of the remakes.” - Leaf 2023

[@LeafProductions]

AM I WRONG THO

[@ripperrex7883]

It's a shame that the mod never got completed. The team drama really stopped it from being completed in full. Also Leaf, there is a patch on TRT/Download Library that fixes a lot of RR's bugs.

[@t3chkn1ght]

you have a link for it?

[@ripperrex7883]

zt2downloadlibrary.fandom.com/wiki/Radical_Remake_Patch_(Anabeille,_Lgcfm,_Megraptor_%26_Mjmannella)@@t3chkn1ght

[@theketaminefrog6366]

What drama?

[@emperortethysusdacertified8175]

The sad thing is they never even put out an official statement for why the team ended up falling apart and disappearing. They had shown off WIP remakes for the Lion, said the African Wild Dog was nearing completion but never showed anything of it off, and also showed off renders for visually finished animals like the Great White, Tapir and Caribou... and then poof, they went radio silent. Also, looking back on the RR project as a whole, one thing it suffered from throughout its whole production time was how long any progress took. For context, the recent Extinct Animals Remakes mod has been able to near completely remake the entirety of that expansion with completely new models and skins in AD-grade quality (while still also remaining faithful to the original designs in terms of their colorations) while also giving them completely new behaviors and mechanics (One such example being Mastodons not only having tusk variations, but they can also break them in fights which turns the broken tusk into an enrichment item). Only a small handful of animals haven't been finished yet because the modders needing some down time. Those modders in question only numbering in the 2-3 range IIRC. Compare that to RR which at some points had like 8/10+ active modders behind it yet throughout... eight years I think it was. They were only able to just nearly complete the base game roster (something they weren't able to completely do 'cause someone who was inactive for 6 outta those 8 years proclaimed only he could work on the lion) and the MM roster, and did a handful of ES and AA animals while EA got relegated to only two remakes because they didn't want to cover any extinct species outside of some recently extincts (Of which they only did the Dodo and Thylacine (which wasn't even fully finished since Hendrix retired from ZT2 modding before he could finish its custom animations)) since they wouldn't be able to get them completely accurate and Jagged Fang Designs (its own can of worms) was doing just that. And keep in mind, outside of things that had been extinct for over a couple hundred years, they wanted to remake EVERYTHING in Zoo Tycoon 2 to the same level of quality as the animals. Every building, every fence, every path, the guests, the tanks, every animal food, enrichment item and shelter etcetera etcetera. They had some crazy high ambitions, and in the end they only really scratched the surface. Crazy to think that if they had all been a little more unified, and knew when and where to hold back a bit, they could've remade the games full non-extinct roster of species within half the time they spent getting into unnecessary drama... But, oh well is all I can really say now. Its ultimately just water under the bridge at this point. Hopefully someone comes around to touching up the remaineder of untouched animals so we can finally use them all with this mod active without any looking out of place.

[@ripperrex7883]

We should be grateful AD or MMM never moved onto games like Ark lol.

[@torvovenator]

The problem was they started in 2009 as a teen group with high ambitious. Anyone remember simba, the guy was a founder of aurora and he was the reason the lion wasnt done. He as obssesed to do it and nothing, other MMM do it but it was half cooked.

[@emperortethysusdacertified8175]

@@ripperrex7883 Fr fr. Can't imagine how long ARK: Remakes Evolved would've taken to finish (if ever) lmao

[@ripperrex7883]

@@emperortethysusdacertified8175 Obviously if I was part of that dev team, no one would be allowed to touch the Rex. I would then dip out a year or two in development, but of course, my trusty team wouldn't dare touch remaking the rex for years to come, and only would do so 7-8 years after hearing anything from me.

[@emperortethysusdacertified8175]

@@ripperrex7883 REAL

[@Appalachiosaurus22]

Radical Remake was mandatory for teenage me, but now as an adult, I'm finding myself more and more nostalgic and appreciative of the cartoony aesthetic of the original game. Yet, also, it's getting long enough that I'm nostalgic of the remakes too! It's a dilemma.

[@Bloodthirstier]

You can get the RR lion if you knew the right people. It was meant to be for "personal use". The drama when someone released it into the wild was really funny!

[@govardhanposina17]

Any way to actually get it now? I've been waiting on it for years now

[@Bloodthirstier]

@@govardhanposina17 I highly doubt it. I got access through it someone in Aurora who had access to the modders personal google drive

[@APMI-OFICIAL]

link?

[@ripperrex7883]

Interesting, never heard about that!

[@juanalbano140]

When you mentioned Zeta-Designs I had the Anton Ego Ratatouille moment, god. All of it, the Aurora Designs drama, I remember so well T_T. Other mods or dev teams that come to mind are Snowleo for his huge rocks and hacks, ZT-ABC for Aves, Carnivora, Artiodactyla, Amphibia, etc. Thank you so much for this video, dude, I really enjoyed it T _ T

[@ripperrex7883]

I was there from 2009-2016 for the team drama and site migration non-sense. You could easily do a 20-30 minute video on all the ZT2 community drama. lol

[@yeetacookie]

​@@ripperrex7883omg if someone decides to make a video essay of that it'll be fantastic

[@TheOnlyAA]

For lions, i remember there was a mod from a specific website which changed the whole lion model into 70% accurate realistic looking lion model, i think it was from The Round Table website or something.

[@slaughterhater]

I remember some remade animals being dubbed “personal use” where they weren’t public and you couldn’t touch them.

[@sable-king2066]

That shit was always annoying. Like you went through the effort of making it, why not just give other people access to it?

[@ripperrex7883]

@@sable-king2066 It fostered a "country club" level of snobishness from those who had them.

[@2Siders]

Sometimes I like playing with the Remaster Skins, but if I haven't played in a while, the original ZT2 Skins just have their own awesome design style. Most of the animals that were not made to be super realistic turned out pretty cool by the ZT2 Devs: Like the Doedicurus and the Elephant Bird are two great examples. Also, nice Eucalyptus albens, also known as the white box at 2:58 lmao

[@AgamemnonVsSocratesAandS]

I think the Barbary Lion mod is still the best looking lion mod. I think my biggest gripe is that it made some of the animals looked skinny or smaller

[@juanalbano140]

Zebrasorus has a much more recent iteration of the lion remake and it looks awesome!

[@alexanderfridayeagle9146]

As of 2022 Radical remake had relocated to ztroundtable and became active again. They released the Okapi and were in the early stages of the lion remaster. I don't know if that effort died too since then, I will have a look. But check zt Round table radical remake, aurora designs.

[@brett8674]

do a vid on the history of the most anticipated and controvercial zt2 uxp ever... Cretaceous Calamity :P

[@ripperrex7883]

Oh man. That is one topic RIFE with drama.

[@nathanh525]

LOVE this, thank you so much, Leaf! I spent thousands of hours in ZT2 and didn't discover the mods or how easy it was to install and use them (I'm a Deep Ludite) until I had owned the game for a number of years.

[@januszpolak254]

Lion actually got 4 remasters since RR got cancelled lol.

[@grimm6176]

oh holy shit. this just popped up into my reccommended list and its like my childhood came knocking on my door with barbed wire/nailed baseball bat and beat me and then knocked me flat on my ass with the nostalgia train im SHAKING. i still get the same vibrating type of excitement seeing this game now as i did back then. every time i forget this game exists, it shows up in my list like its reminding me of the sins ive committed. man, every wednesday my grandmother would pick me up from pre-school and we'd have lunch together and after doing homework i'd spend the WHOLE AFTERNOON playing zoo tycoon 2, feral heart and wolf quest. i will never forget this game. it was everything to me as a kid. i still have all these very random but vivid memories in my head from my childhood all because of its association with this game. its insane.

[@smashers6971]

Kind of late, but I recommend the Nano’s Folksy Facelift and Restorers’s Forgotten Animals packs for future ZT2 mods one is a full on overhaul to ZT2 making the game more realistic while keeping the original artstyle, while also adding walkthrough exhibits and more accurate sizes and appearances for the animals especially the extinct ones.(It also adds both Elephant Seals and the Liger to the game as a nice bonus.) The forgotten animals pack’s goal is to add every cut animal from ZT1 into 2 in the games original and it does so perfectly, and when I say every cut animal, I mean it. Stuff like the DS exclusive Koprey and Onger, and the mythical animals like the Bigfoot and Unicorn. The only animals they won’t remake are Magnet (Though his red ball is added as a tribute) and the Mermaid but there’s still a very healthy selection of Animals to have.

[@crazytanger]

What's funny is that RR made the tranq gun looking like something out of team fortress 2, at least i always assumed that it was for heavy before I actually got into playing TF2. But the viewmodel doesn't match anything found in the game, so maybe it's from a tf2 mod or from another game entirely

[@flightlesslord2688]

Probably the reason I still play this more than Planet Zoo. Zoo Tycoon 2 has so many legends of modding.

[@Alex.Kandmor]

Seeing marine mania makes me really wish planet zoo would do a real aquatic animal DLC, with fish, sharks, etc!

[@cretacians]

I love this game, what a big part of my childhood. I remember watching people post what mods they had onto youtube and getting jealous because I was 8 years old and didn't know how to do it until I was like 14

[@JordanMcCrary32]

I used to only play with Radical Remake & the hyper realistic styled mods for the game. Now ever since a team is making a vanilla styled mod that brings the missing Zoo Tycoon 1 animals in the game, I've been appreciating the cartoony art style Zoo Tycoon 2 had. & I always thought most of the default living animals look good in that style. Plus, the hyper realistic mods always lagged & crashed my game, so there's that as well. lol

[@saulgoodman9278]

What team sorry?

[@JordanMcCrary32]

@@saulgoodman9278 They're called The Restorers.

[@ckpn4771]

There's a team of modders that focuses on making mods and fixes based on the vanilla or the original cartoony style of the game.

[@the.aardvark]

What's with zoo games and their Lion designs?

[@tigris115]

Ngl, as much as I look back on this with fond memories, I absolutely don't miss all the incessant drama. ZT2 drama was always a royal bitch.

[@purplehippopotato]

Theres zt2 drama? İ didnt know that

[@ripperrex7883]

@@purplehippopotato Drama was literally always there from the start! Lol

[@Firestar-TV]

Loved it so much that they've remade the Dodo but it's so weird to me that the Thylacine and especially the Quagga didn't get one

[@cgretam1594]

If someone ghosted the community and product for 6 years they should’ve made it without him/her And then found someone to join their group

[@BlackieChan21E]

I loved the Zoo tycoon mods. Both the realistic animals and all the fantasy creature mods people where able to make!

[@E-Tonio]

Definitely down for ZT2 zoo build, maybe even with the fish mods for aquariums

[@diegocalderon5190]

Dude I never could get into Planet Zoo, I'm still in Zoo Tycoon 2 lol

[@eeveebean]

Radical Remake changed modding forever

[@iqbaalannaafi4944]

Ok Leaf, tiger habitat in 5 different games when?

[@Pac0110]

To be honest, I loved Zoo tycoon 2 after being a player of the first one, but the remake only makes it better. Looks amazing, although I don't love hyper realistic in everything, the art was nice, I still like it

[@SwapTotalFootball]

Ahhhhh ! The nostalgia......

[@TotallynotaPrianhacompy]

hey, there is a group Making mods adding in "Forgotten animals" and radical remakes has been Discontinued sadly.

[@hannede]

If you'd like to showcase more mods I'd be honored if you made a video for the EA Remakes And feel free to make fun of me (Lgcfm) for not making any of the big dinos yet lmao (but we're working on them)

[@APMI-OFICIAL]

eres Lgcfm? soy chucha/samuel

[@hannede]

@@APMI-OFICIAL Sí soy yo, como estás?

[@APMI-OFICIAL]

@@hannede ando bien, hace poco pase de nuevo por TRT, parece que el ultimo foro de ZT2 termino de morir, me extraña que en youtube todavia hablen del juego

[@amicoandre3951]

We gotta resurrect this mod somehow. ASAP

[@torvovenator]

I have to said I saw the beginning and the end of the mod. I think it was too ambitious and the team had many changes in lead and many animals were designed but not released like the lion (thanks to simba that wasnt made and was obssesed with making it), great white shark, pygmy hippo. Other problem for me was the community, a big reason why I left zt2 community in 2011. It was an elistim of things how should be done. If anything was near aurora in look will be punished. Also forums were run by teen with hormones in the heights and people were more focused in internet drama and with mods that werent released. And how things changed, now the remaining zt2 community is making mods with the art style of the original game and the old community moved to planet zoo. In short words: It was too ambitious for a project that needed good leadrship

[@Rexz2000]

Could you do a showcase of the folksy facelift mod for zt2? To my knowledge you would be the first on youtube to do so.

[@Hecuba107]

You know, maybe you can do a showcase of Nano’s Folksy Facelift.

[@roastchicken401]

Bro, I remember being a kid and being so hyped for this, only to never figure out how to download this at all... I think this was before Nexus. Now we have planet zoo so this is obsolete, but.... If kid me could have figured out how to download Radical Remake, it would have been a dream come true

[@JPOG7TV]

To give context to why Extinct Animals wasn't fully remade by Auroa Designs: They got into some drama with another modding group called Jagged Fang Designs who are known for working on prehistoric animals. They both had dodo remakes come out on the same day. It was decided that JFD would handle the Extinct Animals expansion pack while Auroa worked on other things. AD where always in tough position of being seen as the only people who could do remakes.

[@henryvaughan7283]

We might get more remasters for the game! Who knows we might..

[@emmaobrien1376]

Loved the Radical Remake animals and other updates. I don't care about the drama, and the Barbary Lion was a good enough substitute for the lion.

[@jakeosiris3971]

I used to play with these mods when I was a kid, but recently I decided to foregore graphic enhancing mods for a more vanilla experience

[@dragonrykr]

However, now in 2024 we have other remakes that other people made, that work really well in complement with Radical Remake, so you are able to have nearly all animals remastered. EA Remakes for instance remakes 25 more Extinct Animals Shoehorned Dillo's Remakes touches upon the few remaining Endangered Species, Marine Mania and African Adventure animals And for the remaining 10 or so animals (+ the Lion), I simply downloaded either individual remakes some other people made, or I recoded existing mods of said animals into remakes. That way I managed to remake every single base animal from all the expansions

[@placidosalamone4775]

Exacto

[@nightman706]

How exactly do you install a mod on zoo tycoon 2? I always wanted to as a child but never knew how : /

[@APMI-OFICIAL]

There are alternative mods that remake the animals that RR never touched, such as the great white shark and a large part of the extinct animals

[@annak2764]

I never really liked the radical remake as I thought the ”hyper realistic” textures didn’t match the cartoonish style of the game, to me it rather looked a bit uncanny😅

[@dr.archaeopteryx5512]

Leaf ya silly, unaffiliated people made dozens of Lion remasters/remakes, you just didn't download any :v Edit: You should look up the Zoo Tycoon Round table for a nice whelming collection of neat mods and a convenient somewhat active community you can ask for help with stuff; or the Zoo Tycoon 2 Download library if you wanna look up any specific animals you might want. Early warning tho, if you get too many mods (seemingly 300-500 something depending on ur machine) the game will break, but u can fix it again by deleting some if that happen. Specifically, it will ask you if you want to learn how to play all of the expansions one after another, textures will glitch into black squares, and saving won't be possible if this happens.

[@januszpolak254]

One correction: you can have as many mods as you want as long as your ZT2 file weight less than 5GB before this game can just crush or corrupt saves.

[@quintonnarcisse6425]

I remember learning this the hard way with my first laptop, the game corruption also affected my whole laptop as well making it slow and laggy or even crash to the point where it was almost unusable for normal use.

[@gungbojog6030]

Theres some remakes that looked awesome if you need em, it might not be RR, but it still look as good

[@jesss7930]

Haven’t watched your video yet, but my god that tiger looks good.

[@frustratedrhinoceros8431]

Where can I download ZT2 safely?? Really wanted to play it but have never been sure of where to get it now that discs are no longer used

[@LeafProductions]

Amazon

[@moodapenkinislazy]

Yo frontier announced a special livestream

[@jorgelazo4432]

The water reskin doesn't work anymore :( my zoo water looks so cheap lol

[@otterlord5906]

That sea otter remake though...

[@TheRonin2024]

I want this so bad since ages never got a chance I'm playing zoo tycoon 2 cd

[@Tucher97]

This may sound odd, I am more fond of the cartoonish style, there is a charm to it but I am hunting for one mod as I am not an expert myself thus I am asking for help, one mod I am looking for is specifically towards the extinct research lab, specifically to remove the obnoxious hidden icons, sure I can simply 'memorize' them but regardless, not a fan of it regardless hence I am hunting for a mod that just remove the idea of hidden icons. I found one mod that does way to much like "oh not the lab and the staff do not have an upkeep", just a bit to much.

[@elpatoserra]

where can I download zoo tycoon?

[@Eduardo_Espinoza]

I didn't know about mods for these games :)

[@bazooka711]

How do i download the radical remake?? its not working for me

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

I think if they give The Guests a Anime like Look, That can work for any zoo game, humans in zoo games can always look Odd for looking either too human or too empty, so if they have a Expressional 2D look that Switches moods, that be something.

[@chrisidk3992]

where can i buy zoo tycoon online cause i used to have the disk as a kind and i lost it and whant to relive the memorys

[@LeafProductions]

Amazon!

[@cocodawg]

Yes

[@Boi853_]

How did you get this game?, all the sources I’ve found are really sketchy and aren’t very well-reviewed, but I really wanna play the game again 😅.

[@LeafProductions]

Amazon works

[@Boi853_]

@@LeafProductions oh thanks!

[@Individual123]

Late but you can get it from old games download. I got that as well as zoo tycoon ultimate collection

[@AlexWhittington-s5w]

Do you know how to get zoo tycoon 2 like is it on steam or something?

[@LeafProductions]

I hear Amazon has a digital copy!

[@AlexWhittington-s5w]

@@LeafProductions Thank you! Have any recommendations for it? (I play planet zoo)

[@davowildlife6129]

The Asian elephant crashes my game does anyone know how to fix it

[@LeafProductions]

Verify your files

[@JosePereira-ps8td]

Where u can get zoo tycoon 2 in 2024?

[@LeafProductions]

abandonware

[@l.abuddy23]

Never was a fan of texture mods. It just looks out of place in an overall cartoony aesthetic. It may be because I was used to looking at Spore before hand, but I quite like the polygon-esc look to them.

[@WoofyMcDoodle]

2:45 little slip right there

[@miyeonisaqueen3328]

First ❤

[@sleipnirthe8th339]

I feel many overlook zoo tycoon 2 as a Very Good Zoo game(personally the best zoo game with mods) cause of Its Graphics. But of course, with updated modded graphics, the game is even better. But that’s of course what makes zoo tycoon modding makes so fun