Leagues 4 - Best Regions for every Combat Style

Now that the new combat relics have announced, here are all the best regions selections you can take for all 3 of the combat styles! Remember to use this as a launching pad for your own route, blindly following the optimal route will only lead you to burnout.
I said i could talk about the combat relics for an hour and so here's the result :)
EDIT: A couple people have been asking about the Dragon long vs. Whip; I did some DPS calculations and found out i was mistaken and got it confused with the leaf bladed battle axe, the whip is indeed stronger than the dragon long, which trails it by about 5-10%. However, Dlong can be a better stab weapon if you need that specifically! Thanks for pointing that out
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0:00 - Determining Good Regions
5:59 - Melee
14:47 - Magic
20:02 - Ranged

[@doubleshine]

My picks for WORST Region Selection: Melee with Kandarin, Tirannwn, Zeah

[@tonypleger6450]

but my DHL XD

[@danielsinclair7841]

melee can still pick up the obby set + zerker necklace with the obby mace for alot of damage there but its kinda troll

[@jameskamerman392]

3t Chally with Piety! Imagine the crits!

[@doubleshine]

buff chally so it can reach zulrah@@jameskamerman392

[@bendover2077]

You got blade, serp, torso I believe, brimstone boots, obby legs, brimstone ring, torture kinda solid lol

[@lol33380]

Straight up most helpful and well spirited videos I've seen in a little while. Love this video and a ton of useful information that is concise. I'm even more excited for Leagues now that its just around the corner!

[@ericgardner5401]

You totally made me question my route for ranged with the crossbow insight!!! Now to go have pace around the apartment for an hour haha. Thanks the awesome deep dive DoubleShine!!!

[@doubleshine]

Sorry to ruin your plans once again!

[@Eatingman7]

Thank you for this. I was having such a hard time picking what build I want to do. I was going to go with melee but I knew I didn't want theater. But you explaining range. MAN that seems like the most fun! Plus all the bossing you want!

[@doubleshine]

The nice thing about the ranged route is you'll still do pretty good damage even with an arma crossbow and rigour, so it's not like absolute best in slot is necessary before you really start doing damage. It just keeps getting better with every drop

[@samdellacecca3593]

Same here. I was struggling to pick between melee and mage, but watching his explanation of ranged made me seal that in as my choice!

[@williamroberts5893]

im very glad i decided to give leagues a shot this year because i absolutely love the way you break down the game and keep it engaging by not trying to just push everyone into what you think your best strategy is but more so help folks with less game knowledge have a more solid base to make their own plans from! you are quickly one of my favorite osrs content creators for sure i hope you make lots more content here

[@jordanwinters5268]

best league video i've seen by far, love the way you break everything down that I was interested in

[@jayraitt9023]

Hey dude. I've never heard of you until this leagues, and I got to say.. damn good insight and info. Keep it up!

[@notahacker2873]

Love watching the channel explode with leagues nearing keep up the great content!

[@doubleshine]

Times going by so quick! barely have enough to get these out before the real fun finally starts

[@stabf2635]

@@doubleshine ive tried to watch a LOT of league videos and always overwhelmed. Subbed here immediately when i found your day by day teasers, can actually follow them

[@doubleshine]

Hey thanks! I hope they're not too difficult to track out of order since I often mention previous announcements!

[@stabf2635]

@@doubleshine not at all! I'm just going back to see your thoughts on the earlier ones now that I found your channel.

[@Nandorian007]

Love your video's! I have just one remark: for the alternate mage route I believe you need to have picked Desert as well to be able to get the Magus ring in the Fremenik area.

[@jimgahna5536]

I have another great video idea for you. You should cover which bosses are in every region, including demi bosses and such. Since most have some sort of a KC task attached, people who are looking for dragon tier might want to know what major/(mini)major grinds they might be getting into! Plus I just want to see more content from you!

[@doubleshine]

Noted! I try to cover that all in the region deep dives, but I feel the more condensed and broader videos are probably a bit easier to digest as well

[@praisesol2740]

Dude, this is the best video I've seen so far. You prioritize fun instead of raw efficiency-scape. Very balanced take, super refreshing to hear

[@nuramoon5257]

I like your content and I am rooting for you to get as many subscribers as possible via these leagues videos. Inspiring! Keep up the good work and I wish you some good rng in leagues! We might even meet since I am probably gonna pick the same regions. ;)

[@hweigel528]

Glad I stumbled onto this channel, your leagues content seems is definitely top tier, well-researched and accurate! And I know I can trust a fellow former A-F-K melee gang member :) Range builds do seem strongest so far but for some reason I am much more excited to go magic this time around. Still deciding what to pair with K+D though...

[@doubleshine]

K+D go so well together that you really can run anything, it's kinda nice if you don't mind those two since your last pick is purely for fun or skilling methods, etc...

[@R0KHEAD]

Really loving all the vids, great summaries and in-depth ideas at the same time keep it up and hope you enjoy your league!

[@doubleshine]

Same to you! see you around lumbridge!

[@yournamethere123]

how does this man have less than 10k subs. Amazing video! Good info, helped me iron out my leagues plan.

[@thedrumist1784]

The fun factor was actually what I wanted to hear. Leagues is off putting at times with even more effeciencyscape. Liked the video as soon as you said fun factor. Have fun in leagues! I know I will.

[@Gotenhanku]

Door build with FZM is also great. Gets you leaf-bladed axe as sustain weapon to use until you get door. Plus thanks to the immunities from the melee relic vorkath is basically free so that gets you plenty of easy prayer.

[@doubleshine]

oh shoot I forgot to mention how free vorkath is because of the melee relic! it was in my notes and I totally forgot

[@Ricardo_Rick]

not gonna lie: bonking vorkath with a giant door does sound funny

[@_The-Guy_]

Can't you not get piety in the door build without asgarnia?

[@josephcarreon2341]

@@_The-Guy_ It's been confirmed you only need Kandarin for Piety.

[@ryandepalma2375]

This made me even more excited for range route. i was still dead set on tir and hadnt considered a desert kourend asgarnia route. definitely will be going that way

[@doubleshine]

the beauty of DZA ranged is how strong you'll be entering PvM with just a rune crossbow, and every single drop you get will only continue to boost your damage. Most of the other routes really require you to hit a raid drop before you start doing significant damage.

[@ryandepalma2375]

@@doubleshine yeah i’ve done dragon cup every league but this year i’m going to miss a week or two so just want to focus on max dps fun pvm

[@IG33Z]

Last leagues I learned raids2 in full melee, so this leagues I want to learn COX as I've actually never tried it. Thanks to your wonderfull videos I've decided to go asgarnia > tiranwin (as I also want to get better at the gauntlet, and dont really have time for very time intensive grinds) into Kourend. I'm super excited for this leagues and hope everyone else is too!

[@doubleshine]

Good luck! There's some really nice changes coming to CoX soon that should make the raid way more fun, so you're learning it at a pretty good time! Plus if you hit your tbow, that's just free dps for the rest of the leagues.

[@jaymay7957]

Doing the same. But I’m going tirannwn first then I think Asgarn second. I think full crystal with bofa will make god wars a breeze. Get god wars gear and then go to kour last I think

[@Chucky42069]

Great video! I'D have to say I am tempted to go to the DOOR build! It would prove so challenging to build but theres something unique about being able to afk inferno up to triple jads. All hail the DOOR!

[@doubleshine]

would love to take a nap while grinding out inferno, only really having to pay attention to the last 2 waves lmao

[@IpwnNublets]

Door build sounds so fun 🤣

[@jonesen4395]

Honorable melee mention: barrows gear also gets a massive buff from the relic as guthans, veracs and dharoks are 5t 5t 7t normally so 2t 2t 3t in the league. Basically your early game is set with barrows if you go door build ZKM

[@jimbo4910]

Yoooo I was so excited when I got the notification for this vid! Just what I needed after a long day

[@doubleshine]

Hope you enjoyed it! I'm grabbing dinner and reading over your awful zone picks haha

[@jetsonone1]

Thank you for the recommendations! Great note to have fun, people tend to get lost in the meta nowadays. :) Hope you have a fantastic leagues 4!

[@doubleshine]

And you as well! see you in lumbridge day 1!

[@calvinnguyen1870]

I was originally gonna go mage relic, but the range route lines up perfectly with the regions I’m choosing. And boy does a 2-tick ZCB sound incredible

[@marshallc6215]

If you do go range, 1 tick blowpipe is a *lot* of fun. 17 second zulrah being slow is a weird feeling. The one downside is the limited utility of bp because so many bosses have such high defense that even with rigour and boosted accuracy, bp gonna splash a lot.

[@jamochathunder198]

I'm concerned about Nex farming, but I've never done it before. I know kills go fast, but I'm not sure if I stand a good chance of getting a ZCB with even like 10 hours of Nex kills due to the weird group drop chance.

[@marshallc6215]

@@jamochathunder198 nex is a weird one, because for most bosses you can get a ballpark by dividing the normal expectation by 5, but realistically, nex will be massed on every world, so the kills will go *so* quickly that half the time you may not even get a hit in, and the other half of the time, you're gonna have the 1/300 (ish) for a horn to roll (granted 5x so 1/60) followed by a 1/500 to be the one who gets the unique. But the kills will be so fast that I have no idea how much faster it'll be. Range probably has the advantage here due to ruby and diamond bolts, followed by mage for voidwaker guaranteed damage into shadow for high accuracy, if the kills last that long.

[@doubleshine]

I'm excited to see the spec relic with zcb dumping multiple specs lmaooo

[@Chaos1044]

@@jamochathunder198 You don't have to worry about that too much, with the hard CAs completed (which should be very doable with the A/D/Z zcb region combo) players who are in your cc can be invited to join your private Nex sessions. This way, I imagine lots of people will be doing Nex in small groups of 2-5 which will still be pretty easy and allow for a much better drop chance!

[@CUBSfan7364]

Also, you can get imbued god cape from wildy. That + regular imbued heart helps close the gap a bit with Fremmy at least.

[@doubleshine]

Wildy really comes down to the spec weapon for me, it just might be worth it depending on what we get

[@tonyutt]

I think Wildy is more valuable than Fremmy due to the resource and GP abundance, large list of skilling options, weapons for all 3 styles that have specs and are easy to charge, and wildy slayer. Plus the regions sustains itself with blighted food/pots and probably has a pretty easy tasklist.

[@hahaureadmyname]

spirit shields @@tonyutt

[@billymetcalfe7698]

Featured on Jagex update page!! Well done :D

[@eraofadventure6399]

Another banger. Looking like melee K A D or K A F for me. Excited... one more week. At least there's a few more leaks and deep-dives to look forward to until then :)

[@AscendantExile]

Unless something groundbreaking happens in the next week of teasers, im currently planning on doing melee relic and unlocking, Zeah, Asgarnia, and Fremennik. So excited that last recall is back and isnt competing for a relic choice this time around. Cant wait to see what other madness the rest of the relics can cause.

[@timscar9308]

New subscriber here, really enjoying your content. One thing i havent noticed people discussing regarding the range relic is that almost all the time accurate is going to be superior to rapid.

[@rlpopowich7852]

that is not going to be the case as accurate with crossbow/tbow or any other "5 tick rapid weapons" will end up 3 tick instead of 2

[@timklanky4562]

Been an on and off osrs player for like 6 years. Gonna use this league to try later game content. Thanks for the guide.

[@doubleshine]

Welcome back! Leagues is how I learned a lot of pvm so it definitely translates if you're paying attention and trying to familiarize with mechanics

[@campbellm4374]

Congratz on 2.5k, another great vid :)

[@doubleshine]

Thanks! so many people asked for the combat style video so this was really fun to make

[@Tovenaar]

Even for a rs and especially leagues obsessed guy like myself, I still pick up some good tips on your vids. Thanks and keep it up!

[@doubleshine]

that's sick to hear, i try to strike a balance between some beginner friendly stuff that may be obvious to most and then some more advanced tips for the veterans like yourself

[@TheSameTeam]

I wanna do like raids since i havent really done them on my main, i'm not a high enough level for them yet but i'd love to practice in trailblazer, would desert, kourend, morytania be good for melee? if so what would be like the easiest order to unlock them?

[@tctrickshot]

man your content this leagues is seriously top tier and your dedication to reply to everyone! you deserve your blowup man!

[@doubleshine]

I'm just happy to help people make their choices, this video had to be made sooner rather than later

[@Gyurg00]

a note for the ranged route is that rcb limbs also drop from the archaeologist on fossil island if you hate doing steel dragons

[@doubleshine]

I think all of us hate doing steel dragons so that's a good tip

[@jonesen4395]

Deranged arch also drops full crystal keys for your first dragonstones if you go asgarnia and black dhide body, black dhides, also diamonds for bolts. He really is the iron man early game loot piñata.

[@doubleshine]

ah nice, dragonstones are also important for zeah in forthos

[@AkaUforia]

@@doubleshine last trailblazer I got dragon legs from steel drags which was also a task, so I have a bizarre fondness to them since then...

[@satrontr1379]

im thinking about getting either a melee or ranged build i picked desert and asgarnia will be my next but not sure about the 3rd unlock any tips please?

[@GoGalaxy93]

i picked kandarin because i wasnt sure which relic i was gonna pick and picked ranged which of the other 2 should i pick?

[@itsVera_]

I'm going range and plan on zeah, desert, and asgarnia. What order would you guys recommend taking?

[@Satire1197]

Duke only drops 1/4th of the soulreaper axe? Are they modifying the drop tables so you only need one boss?

[@jordanlibke]

Hey is there a way you can make a guide for people not planning on going for end game gear? I live leagues but I'm not taking it seriously enuff to focus on say ancestral, tbow, bandos ect but still want to progress

[@Zeroicdota]

Thanks for sharing my build! :) -Zeroic

[@andrewhamilton7628]

Ayy I saw your post on reddit!

[@Grriizzlly]

would picking mage and going kourend desert and wildy be a mistake since im not going kandarin for occult and tormented bracelet? im pretty casual and end game is going for pets in leagues. what would be some alternatives to the occult and bracelet in those areas?

[@doubleshine]

unfortunately there really are no alternatives! however even with shadow you'll do about 80% of the dps of the optimal build which is still absolutely plenty, and might actually be way closer if wildy sceptre gets a spec relic to use.

[@g.waits4gainz205]

4:49 yessss THIS! there might be the "best for streamers, or best for maximum points" but hoenstly theyre all objectivly amazing when you min max around what you enjoy, what avoids burnout, what your goals are for the league, and what you want ot leanr and achieve. I CANT WAIT TO HAVE A BLAST IN ZAD MELEE~!

[@trevorhoward6115]

Im personally going for bowfa range build. Frem and desert will be my other unlocks for some Toa! Super excited

[@danielsavdie2864]

How bad would it be to chose melee with asgarnia, desert and moritania. So i can get toa and tob. missing out on piety...

[@thomasbettens]

Could someone explain how a d long is better than a whip? They are both 2-tick and whip has more slash and strength bonus. I can't figure it out. 😅

[@silversepp750]

You guys thing Asgarnia - Morytania - Desert would work? I really wanna use it to practice TOB and TOA,

[@LFBDuarte]

The idea of using the bulwark as a main weapon is amazing, i really wanna do that!

[@steeveewuzzheer1992]

Fun Factor being the top of your list is GREAT. So many players are obsessed with finding the best relic by the numbers, picking the best region for that relic and getting the most out of their time in Leagues. It’s a fun game mode and if that’s how they have their fun, go for it, but I’d encourage everyone to just play.

[@doubleshine]

Getting best gear can be fun in itself, but that should be a personal choice. like "oh i killed bandos in 7 seconds instead of 8" isn't really gonna make or break your league haha

[@belof449]

yeah my group of 3 will with each style will all have d+z, to do the raids together, ends up being very close damage output compared to fully bis regions too

[@Mrterminus]

Yeah I’m in the same boat. Having a strong build isn’t necessarily the most important thing. I wanted to go ranged but I really don’t like crossbows and the progression, so I will go melee. Having Progression be like RCB>ACB>ZCB with void>arma>masouri feels so painfully boring

[@ascendesuperius]

I really am here for the fun and just getting enough points for the cosmetics I want but damn it's hard to pick the regions and relics D:

[@danielcastle4048]

I need someone to tell me what the 3 most fun areas are haha. I'm a noob (even after 20 years of playing) and haven't done a lot of high end content.

[@jessejones7545]

I have little to no experience with the "optimal" ranged build, but i think im going to try it out. It will be a good opportunity for me to learn some of the end game bosses I have no experience with.

[@SoyDelSouth]

You made it into an official Jagex post. Gz!

[@noiseisgold3n42]

Idk if someone has mentioned it, but magic has another spec - Nightmare Staffs. Volatile in particular competes with Tumuneks Shadow with a Spec build. Could go ZKM or FKM as extra non-desert options.

[@axesofebil]

Looking the Mage wilderness route so I can get the Voidwaker because the spec goes off magic so it should be good?

[@doubleshine]

Yeah it gets the bonus damage and accuracy, although the spec will still take 4 ticks instead of 2, it only gets faster with melee relic

[@Phurd]

another question :) quest wise how does that work. iv heard some are auto unlocks but some arent? do you choose that or how does that work? if you know :)

[@doubleshine]

Basically some quests in every area get auto completed when you unlock the zone, generally these are quests that would have otherwise required you to have access to other areas to do them. But quests like Sins of the Father in Morytania can be done entirely in Morytania, so you still would have to do that. Quests also give the boosted XP rates if you complete them yourself though, so it's nice if your zone does have some quests for some absolutely massive xp chunks

[@protesttheshirou6233]

I'm really excited after watching this video. I'm trying to create a good solo content route and leave open a raid or group boss to try if I have the time. I was leaning toward melee but I'm really starting to consider range. Indecision is a nightmare.

[@titojefe330]

Same here, mostly solo and also on mobile quite a bit so the Ranged PvM route has me hesitant. Did you decide what regions you’re doing?

[@countachshepard119]

Anyone know how hard CoX is to solo for a newbie? That Dinh's Bulwark sounds so fun I will be picking Kourend regardless as from the little I played there last Leagues it was by far my favourite place

[@freakytiki6986]

Doesn't rigour require completion of kings ransom/knights waves? If you go with the route advertised for range would that not mean you can't use it?

[@doubleshine]

That's Piety that requires kings ransom, but also auto unlocked just through Kandarin

[@burntjoint]

Hey i only play leagues so hope this isnt a dumb question, but im planning on going range and ive been looking at early game crossbows and saw the bone crossbow is only 4 ticks on rapid but 5 ticks on accurate. If i put it on accurate instead of rapid would i still get the increased speed to 2t + the invisible +3 ranged?

[@doubleshine]

That's correct! For the bone crossbow as well as something like BoFA, you want to be on accurate to get the extra ranged accuracy, and it will still go down to 2 ticks. Nice job spotting that!

[@GenocideLv]

balancing going for dragon cup and going the fun route gets tricky cause my choice is magic -> kandarin; desert; wildy but how am I gonna get corp beast points with a mage?

[@jayjay4848]

Am I being stupid but how can you get soul reaper axe with this zones you said? You need desert for the quest, then fremenik for Duke, kourend for vard, misth for levi and asg for whisp?

[@doubleshine]

Leagues will be special and all 4 bosses can drop all 4 items. so you just need to kill 1!

[@jayjay4848]

@@doubleshine ooh okay thank you for the reply :). Will be a bit rough farming it at levi or whisp since you can't melee them but at least it's possible

[@SoupInMyBeard]

Might be a dumb question. Whats going to be the best way to get runes early on for mage relic? GoTR?

[@doubleshine]

any rune shop will be pretty massive! you save 90% of your runes so won't even need too many to last you a hot minute

[@preston3552]

one caveat with the fire surge build is that there's a 1t delay when autocasting. so if you plan on doing content that requires moving a lot (olm), ur fire surge setup is gonna feel very awkward unless you're manually casting it

[@ohheyitsbae]

Frem for venator bow and ranged sounds so fun, but extremely niche. Range does seem fun this leagues!

[@Muistimetalli]

A fun melee build could also be ZMD since it gives you so many 5t weapons to play with. Fast access to the Soulreaper axe from Vardorvis, Bulwark, Scythe, and Fang. As well as full justi to support the door. You don't get piety, defenders or torva here, but it could be fun and varied.

[@afromammoth579]

20:40 You can also get the runite limbs as 1/25.6 from the deranged archeologist+ an early black d'hide body which he drops

[@OfficialMrMaquette]

Did I miss something or are they adding Soulreaper Axe pieces to the other DT2 bosses? Currently you need a piece from all 4 bosses meaning you can't get the axe?

[@doubleshine]

They are changing it just for leagues so that all 4 bosses will drop all 4 pieces! This means even with just the desert unlocked you can kill leviathan and get all 4 pieces!

[@xsdarknesssx]

Are there any good ideas for someone looking to mostly skill and stick to things like slayer and lower level pvm. I have never done DT2 or the elf questline also never done raids and not sure raids are something I want to get into. Mage just seems totally out unless I want to pick Moritania because there will be nothing but mystic for me to use unless i do dt2 bosses that I have never killed. Range seems like a decent choice since I could have rune cross bow and blessed d hide in the starter areas and that would probably carry me through pretty much anything if I am not doing any super high end pvm. I am just really stuck on what direction to go in.

[@doubleshine]

Yeah if you wanted some simple route, KAF with melee, or KDA melee if you want to give tombs a try (it's by far the easiest raid so might want to use the opportunity to try it out), and a fang will basically clear most content. Otherwise I would pick a ranged route, take Asgarnia for Void set and arma crossbow, and then basically whatever you'd like! Personally i'd add do something like Zeah -> Asgarnia -> Tiranwn so you have a bunch of skilling options and can also go do zulrah with your ranged setup to get the machine gun blowpipe! Lots of fun to use and will be really strong for slayer!

[@andreasblix9952]

If im doing melee A/K/Z - how to get magic up without bursting 😅

[@IpwnNublets]

Are there going to be any fun uses for a venator bow? It’s a 4 tick like bowfa but I am curious if the chance to fire an extra projectile can also proc the ricochet effect?

[@doubleshine]

Unfortunately I don't think it can mass ricochet like that, but it may find use as an AoE weapon of choice at like ToB Nylos, or in the catacombs of kourend if you're doing that anyways and don't want to bother with chins

[@matmercer]

just a thought... does the 2x chance to proc bolts make the ACB stronger than ZCB because it turns the 50% chance to 100% at a lower spec bar cost???

[@doubleshine]

I dont think the arma crossbow is a guaranteed spec, it just doubles the chance to hit! So you'd go from 10% to 20%, and that would be doubled by the relic to 40%, so ZCB will still be king

[@mythoughts8254]

Actually have thoroughly enjoyed these. Perfect to watch at work and theory craft

[@doubleshine]

glad to hear it! I think the video is best as background noise since I'm pretty light on editing, so it's good to hear that's been working out

[@juppa4432]

I'm really keen on going Melee relic with Asgarnia, Morytania and desert as I want to try out ToB, ToA and Nex/GWD as much as possible. Will I be fine without Piety?

[@doubleshine]

yeah you'll be just fine, ultimate strength is still 15% strength, piety is 23, so not too bad

[@ginduo]

I'm still stuck on deciding a 3rd region any suggestions for a casual/ limited experience outside of nostalgia? Currently picking kourend and Kandarin.

[@doubleshine]

what combat style! If Mage or Melee I'd go desert, if ranged -> asgarnia

[@RobindeBie]

i mean bofa is a 5 tick weapon with rapid becomes 4 right but u get a accuracy bonus if u keep it at 2 with the speed inc becomes a 2tick?

[@doubleshine]

yes with bofa you're gonna want to keep it accurate and it will still go down to 2 tick

[@JohhnKnox]

Friends and I were planning on going Ka + Ko + Mory from the start because we wanted to do the raids for the first time. After a couple days of hashing ideas we landed on the door and justiciar and seeing other people land on it has been a bit reassuring. Im ready for the door meme

[@AmateurHero101]

I think with ruinous prayers and the spec relic announced now there's a viable melee route in Kourend-Desert-Asgarnia. Don't need piety, unlocks two raids and DHL, d claws, plus all of kourend skilling. Thinking that's my route

[@TheDanielradio]

Very very good video! Super helpful breakdown! Ranged is making a lot of sense for me. As far as getting enough points is concerned... Na don't think I mind! Maybe I'll regret that but na it'll be good. :D

[@vwabi]

I'm definitely leading to KDA for magic as well, kinda funny that KDA is just individually one of the best choices for both magic and melee. Indeed the main thing leading me to asgarnia is the whisperer for Virtus Robes, and hasta/defender which seem quite useful for grinding out ToA (especially if you decide to grind for shadow you'd be in ToA for a while)

[@doubleshine]

the bonus melee gear is so nice because if im still dying on akkha im gonna rage

[@2DollarGargoyle]

I was looking at KDA for melee, but also as decent off relic gear for magic.

[@GreasyMoist]

what about nightmare staff for magic and its orbs and special attacks?

[@Lyriok]

Probably a stupid question as I play RS3 but participate in Leagues in OSRS when they pop up. How plausible would guthans be in a melee infernal cape run as the spear is also 5t? I've completed HM Zuk in RS3 but would love to take the challenge (albeit in a easier form) in trailblazer.

[@doubleshine]

Depending on what else is available, it may just be better to take something with more dps and use an amulet of blood fury to lifesteal as you clear it. however guthans might be your strongest weapon anyways depending on your other regions so probably very viable. only tough part is gonna be doing triple jads and zuk so just have some ranged or magic weapon available to make that possible

[@Lyriok]

​@@doubleshine 100% In that Guthans scenario I was thinking Kandarin,Asgarnia, Morytania but the real hard part is deciding on the zones and commiting. Part of me wants to go melee for the nostalgia while the other wants to go range for all the PvM content Thanks for the reply and keep up the content, its been helping me greatly as a crash course to learn whats new since ive last played

[@doubleshine]

yeah KAM was soooo popular last time, I think a lot of people are specifically not going that because they want to try something new but it really is an incredible route especially if you can find people to do ToB with.

[@mrcattor]

You forgot to mention Mages option of Ancient sceptre if they pick Fremmy but otherwise great video. Its such a minor thing to leave off though as you said, Kandarin and Desert are pretty much mandatory. All sceptre would do is aid you in getting a Shadow if you pick Fremmy as your first region. Otherwise you can add a Dt2 jewel to the sceptre to attempt to buff up the power pre-Shadow. Fremmy could also have some potential use for Range if there is some cool use you can find with a 2-tick Venator bow in multi (If we get explosive attacks back)

[@evertime123]

I'll was going Ranged but the magic relic has convinced me to revert back to my ambitious choice of ZDM, The plan is to get tasks, diary, and skilling out of the way in the starters/ zeah and the desert and to invest heavily in combat once Mory is unlocked. (Maybe water/fire tome? Plus rada's blessing is nice even at a +1) Planning on going from fire battlestaff ->infinity robes/master wand/mages book once I have a strong enough minigame multiplier + Ring of Shadows for 75k +Magic Ammy-> Ahrims -> Fire Cape/99 Cape T-> Hit up the raids and pray

[@codybontecou]

Door build sounds epic. Please give us a door-build roadmap video!

[@erichrathkamp8498]

I read some pretty wild tech about using onyx bolt tips from the tokkul store and the ranged relic that seems like it could be nuts

[@dakh2333]

Yo could we get another task list from you following that one you released on pastebin!

[@malford5301]

What zone order would you pick for range KDA? Is it as seen in the video, desert kourend asgarnia? I've been thinking of going this set up with Asgarnia/Desrt/Kourend as the ordering

[@doubleshine]

Ah i forgot to add that the order I listed isn't relevant! I would do Zeah/Desert/Asgarnia or Desert/Zeah/Asgarnia. Asgarnia's a bit weak on on skilling options and tasks which tend to be optimal early, and you won't be upgrading past your Rune crossbow until armadyl crossbow. there might be a case for going asgarnia 2nd though to get void set. Void + Rune cbow is gonna be nutsoooo

[@malford5301]

@@doubleshine Interesting, thank you! Love the content and appreciate all the effort you're putting in :)

[@Hatsu_P]

Something I've wondered is if killing whisperer for the soulreaper axe for a melee build with Kandarin/Asgarnia/Desert, how viable would it be to camp staff of the dead with spec to cut down on the melee damage you would be taking, also, would you be able to 'flinch' whisperer by stepping back before each attack since I think it prioritizes the range/mage attacks. Might be something to look in to

[@doubleshine]

Staff of the dead may end up being the meta there for sure and just pumping enough dps to phase change before you die since you'll have nothing to do during pillars anyways. The flinch method might work but you're essentially melee woox walking every 2 ticks, which is gonna be more mechanically intensive than most other combat options in leagues

[@Majora116]

I’m kind of slow, how is the dlong stronger than the whip when it’s strength bonus is much lower?

[@doubleshine]

from what I saw the dlong special attack edges out in dps, also a convenient stab weapon for tombs of amascut!

[@Phurd]

how do Relics work? can you swop on some of the skilling ones depending on what you are doing? or once you choose that tier thats locked in?

[@doubleshine]

We don't know for sure yet but in the last trailblazer you were locked to your choices for every tier, so it's a difficult choice to make

[@Phurd]

thank you!@@doubleshine

[@Millionz]

so is Piety kinda mandatory for Melee builds or is the relic strong enough to let us go somewhere else other than Kandarin? was torn between Kandarin and Zeah because of points/content. I think I want piety and torture, but I also want to practice Vardorvis and try to get SRA.

[@doubleshine]

Piety is great but easily skippable, you'll still have ultimate strength for 15% bonus so its not the end of the world giving it up

[@ObsidianAge]

I think I'm going to go for a Ranged build in Fremennik + Asgarnia + Zeah. Those regions have what I consider to be the most enjoyable content for me, and they seem to synergise reasonably well too. Who knows, though - everything could change once we get the full list of relics and passive effects!

[@RHolmes0916]

What do you reckon will be the best option when it comes to low-grind relative to the output? I have moderate experience bossing but haven’t yet gotten around to trying raids, so I’m not sure I’m up to learning two at once (plus don’t have the time to grind the drops). I immediately thought I was going to go ranged, but I don’t really want a bowfa; I want to go for a zaryte & masori. With that said, adding in Zeah significantly increases the grind and adds in a second raid that I’ll have to take the time to learn. Am I just massively shooting myself in the foot by not doing zeah for rigour and buckler with this build? Would it be viable to forego masori for buckler/rigour? I’m open to one of the other combat styles but I’m probably not down to learn ToB as I almost exclusively solo. I guess if it’s really easy to find a pickup group (no voice chat) for a noob in Leagues, I could give it a shot.

[@doubleshine]

I think a significantly easier route that still has a lot of bosses available to get some practice on would be Desert Asgarnia and Fremmenik (or really Desert Asgarnia + Anything) But this would still get you practice in raids with Tombs of Amascut, the insane power of Armadyl crossbow and eventually zaryte crossbow, plus you'll get fortified masori armor, and then Fremennik gives you Ava's to get 98% ammo saved so you don't have to stress as much about bolt upkeep.

[@15pukkie]

But dont u need all 4 d2 boss for the soulreaper axe? Or did i miss somting😅

[@doubleshine]

Soul reaper axe works different in Leagues and you can get all 4 pieces from one boss! you'll get a different piece every time just like bludgeon and be able to make it even with just 1 boss available

[@That-Albino-Kid]

I was thinking melee: desert, asgarnia and kand but after this video I’m thinking mage same regions. I sounds like the most fun. Is mage viable at ToA bosses before you get the shadow? Aside from the magic immunity phases

[@kyrujones2012]

Thanks for all the awesome insight in these videos, Doubleshine, you're killing it! Was originally thinking of doing Mage relic with Zeah, Desert, Asgarina in that order - but now I don't know what to do lol. I only come back to osrs for leagues because I have a blast, but I only have heavy experience with like, 2007scape content and some of Zeah here and there and some new content from past leagues. I've also never done God Wars, so really wanted to try that out with all the raids and stuff for the first time. Anyone think that doing Zeah instead of Kandarin is gonna be a bad go of things for a mage build? OR should I do range or melee instead? I still plan to pick those 3 regions regardless.

[@doubleshine]

so skipping kandarin is about a 20% dps loss for Mage, but you'll still do insane damage regardless. ZDA is great for ranged though if you want to give that a shot although it will require doing 2 raids which may be worth learning in Leagues anyways

[@weparty802]

Always wanted to do a tank build and you know it generally isn't that good but with this league the door calls my name and I shall fall into its sweet embrace!

[@benreichert0]

Excellent video!

[@mgordon2401]

I am not super familiar with the newest updates to osrs over the last handful of years I tend to always do what I was doing back in the day but the increased OP exp rates fill me with so much dopamine I’ll definitely be resubbing to osrs next week

[@RyanPaddock-10]

It’s worth mentioning that dinh’s is also a big dps spec (usually > claws) since it double hits your target on spec, without even factoring in its aoe utility. Door gang rise up!

[@mattw6152]

Really thinking about going FDA melee route.. not sure on the order.. i want to learn ToA and try out soulreaper axe.. think Frem will have alot of muspah tasks? Doing that off style will be annoying

[@mattw6152]

I did KAM league 2 and did not like or complete any of mory lol. Just don't like it. Avoiding kandarin this time because monkey agility lol

[@doubleshine]

You can do muspah with melee, there's just a weird movement trick that you have to do to avoid damage. You could also just tank it if your relics are strong enough LOL

[@BloodDripss]

my picks that i think are actually decent not intentionally trash, would be melee with morytania, kandarin, desert. i would really appreciate any advice or knowledge that i am unaware of about these regions. i am also a very middle tier knowledged osrs player so literally any advice would be awesome