Learning About Incel Jawmaxxing "Mewing"

[@LunarOverdrive]

I would really like to recommend that men just start investing in makeup, beauty products, and fashion (like women have been doing for decades) if they're insecure about their looks. This has been a thing for a while called "Metrosexual" (apparently taking pride in your appearance as a man is so rare that it needs its own special label.)

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

💯% true. When i was in highschool, my aunt bought me a "how to be a man" type book. I think it was translated from South Korea, and it was full of advice on makeup, skin and hair care, and even perfume. Does it help? No, i don't even like face wash. But it did make me more aware of my own shortfall.

[@painunending4610]

And what happens when people start making fun of you?

[@actualgoblin]

​@@painunending4610 you ignore them lole

[@painunending4610]

@@actualgoblin how long do I have to keep ignoring them for until they stop?

[@Whonoo13]

Ok but the transmasc urge to mew away my feminine face

[@invaderghostkungfu]

Came here to say this 😭

[@Cascade7155]

Ok but the transfem urge to mew to look like a bimbo

[@thedrakonishe5138]

I have a dental technician diploma, and bones can definitely change, when you move your teeth with braces, they do move across the actual bone, very slowly. When a person has a very narrow jaw, palate expanders are used to apply pressure to their upper molars and palate to make the maxilla grow wider. The thing Xander describes where you put a rubber band onto hooks is for fixing malocclusion, that can also affect face shape, but it's mostly for the sake of correct chewing and jaw muscle position, malocclusion can cause headaches and teeth deterioration. I'm not sure about mewing, haven't seen any studies about that, but it's a fact that constant mechanical pressure affects bone growth, moreso in children/teens, but it's possible in adults too

[@geovaughan8261]

@@thedrakonishe5138 I doubt a person has the same level of strength and precision as an orthodontic device. You’d literally have to keep up that exact level of pressure and tension for hours on end, and I doubt the middle schoolers doing it have a dental technician diploma. If it even has any effect at all, they’re just as likely to mess up their jaw as they are to fix it.

[@thedrakonishe5138]

@@geovaughan8261 moving teeth does require precision bc they're rather small and the correct position of them is crucial for a person's health, they need to be in an interlocked pattern in order to not put unnecessary strain on jaw muscles. However the vague goal of "make jawline more masculine" doesn't need to be that accurate with pressure, and while the result might take longer to achieve than straightening teeth by wearing braces, I wouldn't dismiss this activity entirely. It is., after all, availible for free, unline orthodontic treatment, and that's the biggest benefit of it. I would need to read actual studies to tell HOW effective it is, of course, but my main issue with Xander's words was that he straight up said bones can't change at all, which nah they definitely can if enough pressure is applied on regular basis.

[@Akab]

Instructions unclear: *meows*

[@charlesparr1611]

And now you are officially a cat boy. See how careful you need to be with this stuff? /s

[@ComicXanz]

Xander mogger pogged me with his ligma mindset jawline.

[@kevinlunsford3240]

It's sigma, ligma is an old one, know your brainrot lore smh 😮‍💨

[@Akatsukileader9]

He's a ligma male

[@joanodom2104]

😂😂

[@pastalord69]

0:51 bro did the Chad face perfectly 😭😭

[@vindifference]

The cooler teachers in my day, if mewing existed, would have wasted no time making an unresponsive mewer the focus of the class's attention, and not in a good way. Humiliation as a punishment was the name of the game, and if the kid in question is truly attempting to pull this face in the hope that he's magically going to change his looks so that girls would like him.....boy oh boy, that's a gold mine for roasting a teenager. Really makes me admire the teachers I had, cause they'd often point out how stupid us kids' behaviour was by simply bringing us down to earth and making us question the logic. And they wouldn't mind wasting some time to do so cause it was honestly just really funny for the whole class. The teacher talking about mewing on tik tok seems very nice, and progressive, sensitive and respectful etc. but that ain't gonna cut it with dumb teens. If a kid is too busy mewing to engage you gotta hit em with the "hey class. Jake's too invested in trying to fix his ugliness to answer. Anyone have any suggestions for him?"

[@codenamexeno6595]

Xan mewing at me was an unexpected surprise to be sure, but a welcome one lol

[@imperatorvult]

[ joe pesci voice ] "'mewing'? what tha fuck are ya, some kinda cat?!"

[@aegisScale]

Regarding the teacher, it seems she's seeing the newest form of irony poison sweeping through the student base. Irony poisoning is easily one of the worst things to come out of the internet. It spreads bad ideas while making the act of challenging or engaging with those ideas and the world a contemptable act, all under the guise of jokes . . . It makes actually tryinv to take things seriously a fucking nightmare, all because the internet thinks mocking people willing to show their emotions at all is le epic funni trolling or whatever.

[@mattboy5296]

I've heard it described as "internet culture believes actually caring about things is cringe". That kind of cynical dismissiveness ends up creating a sort of nihilistic apathy in people because they think nothing matters and everything is a joke so why bother caring about serious issues when we just meme on the absurdity while everything burns. I'm not saying never take time to joke or meme on absurd world events, humor is a core human trait and coping mechanism. But we can't let it override our capacity to understand and care about serious issues that have a tangible impact on people and the world. That kinda shit is how we ended up getting Trump and the rise of the alt-right and encroaching fascism, because they actively feed on that stuff to allow themselves to take power without any resistance.

[@WinterPains]

​@@mattboy5296I feel like its the people going through the early teen edgelord phase, but never growing out of it and realizing its nicer to enjoy things.

[@painunending4610]

​​@@mattboy5296 nothing does matter and everything is absurd. Look at the presidential debate, a criminal and a dementia patient arguing about gold scores and one of them will be the leader for one of the most powerful nations on the world, how do you not just laugh at that Children are reacting to the world around them. They see a joke and they laugh

[@painunending4610]

​@@WinterPains they do enjoy things, they just don't enjoy things the way you do

[@dunsparcedm43]

I was an “ironic incel” when younger cause it was such a big part of the culture and it’s so embarrassing

[@Elrond_Hubbard_1]

I always say - It's a very good thing if you can look back at your younger self and cringe a little bit. It means that you've grown as a person.

[@painunending4610]

What is an 'ironic incel'?

[@actualgoblin]

​@@painunending4610 during my teens, i definitely played into online incel "culture" despite not really agreeing with their philosophy. i genuinely thought incels were kind of cool

[@bruhhhh---]

I found out there's hard chewing gum marketed for mewing. Bros just giving themselves TMJ at that point.

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

Feminism is about gender equality and I'm expecting right wingers in the replies to disagree

[@LunarOverdrive]

It is about gender equality, that is true. The problem is that people really like getting hung up on the terminology of things. "Feminism" is intimidating to men because to them it implies that the status quo will shift to a matriarchy rather than the system they are already benefitting from and complicit with. The right-wing has also succeeded in making terms like "R* Culture" and "Patriarchy" be considered cringy.

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

@@LunarOverdriveI'm curious if I said "blm is about racial equality" then would you respond similar and talk about why some white people will think it's anti white racism

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

⁠​⁠​⁠@@LunarOverdriveHaven't right wingers also succeeded in make terms like "whiteness" and "white supremacy" be considered cr1ngy

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

@@LunarOverdriveDo some white people feel like blm is anti white and is that an issue too?

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

@@LunarOverdriveShould we reject blm, feminism

[@rustkitty]

This is just posture for your face. It's probably good for what it is, though I doubt it's the most efficient way. Also body posture is still more important for a good presentation and for your health. ofc this won't give you a prominent jaw or wide chin if your problem is bone deep, you only train your facial muscles to align your existing bones differently.

[@kiracarver988]

"i think a lot of them want vengeance on women" Statements like this from a man, remind me that some men really do get it. It's a breath of fresh air.

[@rickyrhodes9008]

So you do want vengeance, or...? (Edit) Sorry. Misread your comment. My bad.

[@toasterfricker]

@@rickyrhodes9008 You can still delete it

[@painunending4610]

"I think a lot of them want vengeance on women" And there's nothing wrong with that 👍

[@rickyrhodes9008]

@@painunending4610 He who seeks vengeance should remember to dig two graves.

[@kiracarver988]

@@painunending4610 it's a miserable way to live, but hey, it's your choice.

[@raydgreenwald7788]

Instructions unclear: now I’m a catboy

[@joanodom2104]

😽👦

[@rangerv1]

I’m a true smegma male

[@joanodom2104]

😂😂

[@hanifarroisimukhlis5989]

You mew because you want better jaw I mew because my teeth hurt so bad We are not the same 😎

[@familyguyfunnymoments2300]

This is like voice training for incels

[@phillipanselmo8540]

except voice training works and has a purpose

[@itch433]

@@phillipanselmo8540 I'm not convinced that mewing doesn't tbh. Of course people who voice train don't think that they're molding their throats into new shapes, they are aware of it being all about simply training the muscles and enforcing new habits, while people that mew seem to be under the impression that they're literally shaping their bones. But that difference aside, it might work all the same, just teaching your muscles a new behavior that they eventually do on their own. For example, I used to hate my smile, it looked too weirdly wide and toothy to me, and at some point I started consciously controlling it to be a little narrower and tightening the corners of the lips to have those cute dimples form. A couple years later and my mouth got completely used to it, just happens naturally every time I smile. Obviously I don't believe that I changed my lips or bone structure or anything, it's simply a habit and better facial muscles control that effectively totally transformed my expressions.

[@painunending4610]

So you should support it and wish the best for those doing it right?

[@actualgoblin]

​@@painunending4610IMO looksmaxxing is fine as long as ur not peer pressuring other people into doing it

[@NeonEonsHp]

25:10 gen alpha is going into highschool this year

[@marvelousTUD]

Gen Alpha starts in 2012, so not quite

[@M0ONCommander]

​@@marvelousTUDSome say it starts on 2010, so by that parameter they would be high-school freshmen under the US education system. but I predilect the 2012 version a bit more, the same way people claim the world actually ended that year and that's why nothing has made sense since

[@cake_9510]

Xan, gen alpha are freshmen. Wait, that does actually explain why the freshmen this year were apparently awful. They were literally like stereotypical crackheads with their vapes.

[@bobspldbckwrds]

That teacher is bad at her job. I work with the same age range, or maybe a little older. The only times i have run into things like this, i just make the situation more embarrassing for them than it is for me, and make the only way out to either escalate disproportionately, or to just do what they already know they need to do. Also, I bet she yells.

[@painunending4610]

You sound like a great teacher

[@aaaah540]

When we said catboys are protected under the Constitution, WE DIDN'T MEAN THIS

[@charlesparr1611]

I started up the video, not paying attention, glanced up and my first thought was 'Poor Zan, look at his face, he must have a horrific toothache!'

[@rickyrhodes9008]

I hate that I learned what mewing was, because now my autistic ass does it subconsciously whenever I see the fucking word.

[@NicaleATifa]

Incels: involuntarily celibate, means they blame all women who don’t want to sleep with them and reject them and that all women crave for good looking guys only, attractive guys or whatever, that’s an incel from my understanding. Being an virgin doesn’t make you an incel, the bitter, anger towards all women makes you an incel. And there are some guys who have their own standards. Such as want an virgin women. Note: That doesn’t make them an incel at all. that’s preference, their standards. that’s different……Thanks for the video.

[@painunending4610]

If other people call you an incel are you an incel? Or is it a self-applied label only?

[@NicaleATifa]

@@painunending4610 I just explain what an incel means so the viewers can understand what it truly means. PS: I am not an incel nor people ever called me an incel.

[@Westlander857]

🎶So she better not mog me, I’ve been trying to keep my mew streak🎶

[@joanodom2104]

😂😂😂

[@Leftistmushroom]

13 months homie that's over a year of mewing 😭

[@starless_void]

Fellas trying to achieve that Neaderthalian complexion.

[@alexanderbelstra26]

So mewing is just making the Zoolander face?

[@Montesama314]

It's sad that people fall for such dumb scams due to their sexual insecurity. Everything from looksmaxxing to fascism.

[@painunending4610]

Why do you have an issue with men trying to look better? Do you just want them to stay in their place?

[@Montesama314]

@painunending4610 I want men to be healthy in their improvement, maybe lose some weight at a gym, not waste their time doing faces in the mirror to change their jawline. Try a skin care routine, lay off the processed foods, talk to people about what they like. All of those may make you more appealing. There are ways to be better men, ways that don't require listening to lies, myths, and "alpha males" spreading misogynistic talking points on social media. It's gonna take decades to get young men to unlearn this garbage.

[@actualgoblin]

​@@painunending4610 none of this stuff actually makes you look better tho

[@painunending4610]

@@actualgoblin that's your opinion

[@pizaclatonddd3081]

Teachers should call out mewing as what it is bringing deadly weapons to school they should ask them where they will use those sharp jaws or do they intend to harm the other students with it and encourge them to not do it that there could still be a redemption arc we shall call it JAWSHANK REDEMPTION.

[@joanodom2104]

Well played. Took a minute to get there but it was worth it 😆

[@drewmarteny1495]

Generic comment for the algo

[@foramoreperfectamerica8490]

Jaw-Maxing aka Dreadmawing, aka The Strong Jaw Pokemoning lol.

[@jamielee7404]

The teacher is horrible though. I've worked as a teacher and sadly lots of them are worse than incels when it comes to self esteem. They DEMAND respect and obedience. But respect is earned and obedience, really, do we want to teach our kids to think and make good choices or be obedient? There are ways to react to typical normal teenage behavior and mewing is no different.

[@painunending4610]

People who seek out positions of authority against vulnerable people turn out to be bad people? Who would have thought Teachers are just non-violent cops

[@painunending4610]

Schools are prisons and teachers are correctional officers, of course they only want obedience

[@matiaspereyra9392]

I mean kids ARE using it to tell people to f off but the 16:12 lady often exaggerates saying like "ahhh I don't think I can teach anymore", i believe I've seen another video of hers just doomering and boomering about the children being ruined or something for other reasons 22:10 see I'd push back on that saying that witnessing different generations go by doesn't mean you have the analytical skills to recognize what is an actual generational change vs a change in presentation of the same stuff people have always been doing because they're regular people, in fact teachers are uniquely positioned to boomer brain since they want to complain about the kids (which is normal) and so boomer opinions and memes serve as a conduit for that

[@matiaspereyra9392]

Not to imply that they aren't just as uniquely positioned to see through boomer takes, but what path they take depends on the individual teacher

[@montyhuckle5206]

did not know mewing was an incel thing i thought it was just a silly trend cus i've never seen it in that context.

[@RadiantBard]

So mewing is basically the blue steel?

[@Square_One]

u gotta listen to 2 days into gooning sung by toad if ur on the mewing grind

[@ASoggyFrootLoop]

Hot take: ironic homophobia is only funny when gay people do it, the amount of times I’ve heard “I hate f-slurs” being said in my 90% queer friend group is astounding lol

[@Schwartzbruder1]

Kinda wanna know what DBZ video Xander is talking about. dragon ball has certainly reached the status of Five Deadly Venoms, The Warriors, and Lone Wolf and Cub in the black community.

[@embrikchloraker8186]

Ironic considering the most prominent black character is Mr. Popo.

[@jayjaygolden5123]

7:56 nOOOOOO WHYYYYYY

[@XepteXDubstep]

since you talked about jawmaxxing can you also do ropemaxxing?

[@VooshSpokesman]

Love from a ChristainVerstappen and Vaush fan!

[@rabbitsdenn]

If you take away the behavioral bullshit, it just seems like promoting good posture but for your face, i know you can fuck up your teeth if you keep your toung in the wrong positions or have certan lisps.

[@nataliewood8930]

My friend's older gen alpha daughter does that crap to her mom all the time. Funny when she smacked the sh*t out of her for it. I never laughed so hard

[@DeltaStarfire]

That’s just child abuse

[@nataliewood8930]

@@DeltaStarfire whatever you say...

[@nataliewood8930]

@@DeltaStarfire hunny I don't think you would know abuse if it smacked you in the face...

[@rickyrhodes9008]

​@@nataliewood8930So smacking kids for being annoying is okay? Cool. Thanks for giving me permission.

[@nataliewood8930]

@@rickyrhodes9008 not annoying but when being told by her mother several times to stop and do what she's told. She was warned several times. And it's called pain compliance, same thing older people learn when you don't listen to authority.

[@noahleveille366]

Look…I have a very weak jaw okay I have a GF I just…leave me alone!!! Lol

[@joanodom2104]

😂

[@charlesparr1611]

boxers train their face muscles to help stabilize their jaw ny increasing the bite on the mouthguard, this leads to a weird bulging effect sort of in front of their ears which is noticeable especially when they are fighting. Doing the same thing without a mouthguard in can damage your teeth, the jawbone joint. Also, this dude is NOT an especially attractive man, why is anyone taking tips from him? There is nothing special about his looks, good or bad.

[@painunending4610]

I cant help but laugh at that annoying teacher whining about how no one listens to her

[@petermiskolczi802]

Comment for the algo

[@geovaughan8261]

Was about to point out, as a teacher, why the mewing trend might be problematic, but you got there in the end.

[@painunending4610]

It's because the students aren't being obedient and acting the way you want them to act Kids should listen to you and only you right?

[@geovaughan8261]

@@painunending4610 How did you get from “mewing might be problematic in the ways Xanderhal pointed out” to “kids should do everything I say”? I’m genuinely curious.

[@painunending4610]

@@geovaughan8261 that's what the teacher in the video wants. She's literally mad that her children are standing up to her and doing what she says. She's literally annoyed they have free will lol Why are you mad when children make their own decisions? Why is it so important that they listen to you?

[@geovaughan8261]

@@painunending4610 You’re coming in with a lot of bad faith readings here and you seem to want to interpret things in the most negative possible way. Are you, by any chance, an unschooler?

[@painunending4610]

@@geovaughan8261 nah I just hate teachers tbh. Don't trust anyone who wants to be a teacher, to me that's like getting out of prison and becoming a correctional officer

[@clintparsons3989]

Honestly I thought everyone held their tongue to the roof of their mouth normally… like what else do you do with it….

[@LightningBolt-dr9lz]

Phoenix1900 dismisses the race and gender pay gap

[@L0RDK3Y]

Skibidi mewing

[@foramoreperfectamerica8490]

It's Blue Steel for Incels lol

[@cookieril]

Am I like the only one not sexually attracted to the chad look? Like I think those kinds of men are mid to me. I prefer pretty boys with long hair

[@painunending4610]

Those pretty boys with long hair have the exact same face type as Chads they're just skinny instead of muscular

[@actualgoblin]

​@@painunending4610 Not necessarily. I have a round face and people still describe me as "pretty"

[@painunending4610]

@@actualgoblin good for you What does it feel like to be considered attractive? I'm 26 and no woman has ever sent me a hint, flirted with me, or asked me out. I haven't had my first kiss yet. Everyday is a struggle to love myself in a world that tells me not to

[@joanodom2104]

I like the soul I fall in love with - regardless of outward appearance. My late husband, my beloved, wasn't conventionally handsome. Our first interaction in a bookstore, he made me laugh until I couldn't breathe. His brilliant mind astounded and attracted me. I beat him at billiards, he beat me at golf.We loved the same comedians, music,authors, and were perfectly aligned politically.I grew to love every inch of him, every feature. We never ran out of things to talk about and the laughter never stopped, until my darling died in my arms. I miss the laughter and the kisses, and holding hands on long trips. I still sleep with his sweater; it retains his scent...

[@WoohooliganComedy]

😂

[@thestupidinator8436]

Comment for talk with critikal no.80

[@painunending4610]

I dont understand how someone doesn't love those kids who mew to not answer their teacher. Like they're undermining and authority figure and you people think thats a bad thing? "It's a power play on the part of the kid" Literally admitting they dor want them to have any power