Learning the Second Hardest John Mayer Riff

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[@emmywillow6599]

this should be a series, just learning John Mayer riffs

[@siggeek503]

Agreed. It would be interesting to see if he could figure out the song 3x5.

[@ajchaney]

sigge ek Is 3x5 hard? I think i know most of it

[@luvyou2]

agreed

[@Ameen2310]

The hardest part actually comes right after the main riff

[@wowdogeful]

Tyler the type of guy to attempt a high five a second time after the first one missed

[@nostalcholy]

Rudy Ayoub Damn it that was savage Rudy

[@mathsocraft7816]

Rudy Ayoub savage

[@MattSaintsMusic]

doesnt everyone? haha

[@DavidArmstrong9]

did this man just call an upstroke “centripetal force”? I’m dead

[@clementevenegasbaricic6081]

Triggered

[@daveyhutchison5337]

Duddeeee someone else noticedddd lollll

[@Allen_lena]

You should check out Paul Davids for anything John Mayer related, he's a great player, who's got both the techniques and the song down.

[@chizonwazuo]

Seconded... Paul Davids is my favorite guitar player. And he turns out to be a great teacher

[@romisnj8793]

Yeah his videos are amazing

[@bluesyace9564]

It's not that hard, it's way easier compared to neon, at least for me

[@imamsatrio4135]

Ace Dragon true

[@AlexanderBoothe]

Agreed

[@franciscoojeda11]

For my small hand this is a headache

[@adamboof6769]

Ace Dragon then i dont think you are playing it exactly the way John is. I find this one far harder than Neon.

[@HalfDuck]

Yeah, I find this harder than Neon

[@connorclose3084]

this isnt the hard part of the song, the stretch chords over the G in the verse are

[@kuhle1siach]

True - do you get that down? I cheat by only playing low and high e strings - otherwise I don't get that G..

[@adelaidee6053]

@@kuhle1siach I play the first chord (300332) with my thumb, then the second (300607) with my index to make the G instead of the thumb. I'm not sure if this is how @Music Is Win is playing it - I've been watching a ton of videos and that's the chords one video suggested. Still not successful trying to play it fast, but it's impossible for me to get the 607 without inadvertently muting the B string..... (Btw - attempting to learn John Mayer's songs while in quarantine?? Bc same LOL)

[@whitewalker608]

@@adelaidee6053 I use index finger as well. It's a 5 fret stretch with index, ring, pinky. I can do it cleanly will all strings ringing but took me quite a while. It is the trickiest part of the song and probably one of the toughest chords he has used yet (this considers Neon, this chord is more difficult than any Neon's chords).

[@jakobmorningstar]

MORE JOHN MAYER!! Maybe his bluesy stuff!!!

[@siggeek503]

Jakob Morningstar Perhaps "Everyday i have the blues". Would be Interesting to see him figure it out.

[@jakobmorningstar]

sigge ek I love that song, or Come When I Call or Out Of My Mind

[@FREDDEMANNEN01]

Yeees more JM

[@mycdonalds2550]

Im gonna find another you live intro?

[@dlcfredericks]

I’m truly impressed in your ability to pick up concepts from hearing music. And yet the authentic way you talked us through and produced this video made me feel like I can do this to. With time.

[@MusicisWin]

Thanks Daniel! You can definitely do it!

[@mattharris4000]

Music is Win it’s almost like you knew how to play the song prior to this video smh

[@lsr01246]

@@MusicisWin I think you should try out this style of video again! Maybe use more contemporary music that you've been listening to and enjoying

[@brianfeldman1227]

Idk…right around 8:54 looks like you glance over to some reference sheet. Having spent a lot of time with the original sound book and countless KZbin videos, I don’t think this is one you can “figure out by ear”. You need to either see him play it, or look at the music. It’s super tricky.

[@motivational_artists]

More John Mayer things please!!!

[@motivational_artists]

whos? hahaha

[@jackoburkie6709]

Only reason people think it’s difficult is because John Mayer’s finger picking pattern is when he hits the guitar with his picking hand he also plucks the string with his pointer finger might be difficult but it’s easy when u get used to it

[@ankitagarwal2685]

I practised this riff so much I can play it in my sleep

[@thomasletke2615]

This technique is actually pretty easy. It takes practice, but I think to many people overthink it.

[@ParitoshPai94]

Tom a riff I think it's more that you need to kinda rewire your brain to use only two fingers for this particular song as opposed to using 3-4 fingers like for any other fingerstyle song. Atleast that's what made it challenging for me.

[@orangewoodguitars]

We love how your shirt matches your PRS! Nice!

[@jochem420]

Its both green. Thats all. Its a totally different shade of green.

[@johntello8904]

@@jochem420 shut up bitch

[@jakobmorningstar]

Love these videos... it’s inspirational watching someone who knows their way around a guitar work through a new song they want to learn

[@luisdominguez2367]

Now play and sing at the same time 😰, its fucking crazy.

[@rafahellorsato]

Hey Tyler! I have a suggestion: Make a series called "Learning (insert band here)'s hardest solo"! By the way, if you plan on doing that, i recommend solos from Avenged Sevenfold, Pantera, Megadeth and Bullet For My Valentine.

[@SuperXD44]

I think that A7X and Megadeath will make a decent challenge on most solos

[@rafahellorsato]

SuperXD44 probably. I thought about saying Metallica on the list, but their solos are not THAT hard(i am not saying they're not hard, but most of them use simple scales and arpeggios).

[@user-fk5lu6jp8p]

Yup, because everything about his style just screams that he likes to listen to those bands. :))) Do the 'hardest solo' thing, I think that's a good idea. But do it with the music most people come here for - my guess for that would be blues, ( southern ) rock and whatever it is that Mayer does. You actually already have a VERY decent selection of guitarists in your 'Habits of...' series to pick hardest solos from!

[@imaymakesomevids]

# # I believe he's mentioned being a metallica fan

[@Mendenhall05]

My name is Tyler, and this was the first comment under the video for me and it confused the hell out of me. Thought KZbin was talking to me.

[@andresguerra8580]

Hey man, I want to say, thank you for uploading these videos, sometimes I get upset and frustated trying to learn a song, and seeing that it takes time even for you, shows me that i have strive and not to give up!

[@redrock1963]

Seeing Tyler go through the explorations of learning something and the repetitiveness of what it takes to reach the goal is such a relief. Even though I know I wont get it as quick as Tyler, It spurs me on knowing that even someone as good as he is goes through something similar as I would. Great demo of the process. Thank you Tyler.

[@JulianDoe]

You should call these videos "Tyler learning..." Awesome lessons from these clips. way better than other beardguyz around

[@johnmalcolm195]

Tyler great job, I truly enjoy going through you process it is very helpful .

[@mrolliepoper]

I finally got an acoustic guitar a week ago. After trying to learn piano, I noticed how much more natural the guitar felt for me. I am learning classic bisaya(Filipino) songs and Spanish songs. I love the feeling of my fingers picking through the different strings. Though my guitar is a cheap one that cost me 50$, it's literally so calming and fun. It's honestly my go to stress reliever.

[@Teequaa]

Hey that's great! stick with it! I remember my old Spanish flattop that my grandmom used to have. Played it as a kid, even though it had a broken string - and I didn´t have a clue what I was doing. I just loved the feeling and warmth of the strings and sound! now around 15 years later, I play daily - and still, have that same old beaten guitar hanging on the wall!

[@SuperZero1215]

Price doesn't matter dearie. I went to Guitar Center prepared to spend 400-500 bucks on an acoustic/electric guitar, but I ended up getting a used Yamaha for 169, because it sounded better to me than all the others I played. As long as the guitar feels amd sounds right to you. That's the only thing that matters. Kind of like picking a wand at Hogwarts.

[@Teequaa]

I really like that analogy haha!

[@yoyoyoonbitch]

pag sure oi

[@SuperZero1215]

7eequa So do I. Someone said it to me and I adopted it.

[@dwaynerobare1153]

Thanks man... Love to see that other guitarists have the same process... sometimes when I do this, I wonder how if others are struggling a bit. Thanks again. Great Stuff!

[@youssefabdelkhalek2499]

This was so inspiring to watch, thanks a lot!

[@ChrisB8711]

Im really liking your recent videos. Not gonna lie I never was a big fan but your latest content is good

[@RC32Smiths01]

How about you try to learn the hardest SRV riff? I'm sorta implying that can you make this a series?

[@JMRMusic01]

The chord shapes for the intro are pretty easy it's the verse shapes that are difficult and the picking pattern and consistency is also challenging to master. Not to mention the slap/strum thing 😂

[@whitewalker608]

It's not slap+strum. That's what most people get wrong and think they did it. It's slap + picking one string. You have to be accurate in picking just ONE note/string while slapping. Do that for the whole song at 90bpm. I found it harder than Neon.

[@ToastedAndButter]

Yesssss!! I loveeee these videos dude!!

[@labibleduguitariste]

Yeaa... This one is so so good...! Un Grand Bravo to John

[@saintshaggy1372]

Your PRS in the background is chilling out.. :P

[@st4rkiller58]

IN YOUR ATMOSPHERE!!! That riff is crazy!

[@calebogle9198]

Amazing that you did this by ear, sounds just like it!

[@falcongunner33]

Man, I've been trying to learn the slap technique for months now but finally got it after watching this video. Thank you!

[@stevenmgyori3826]

Thanks Tyler, well done and thanks for sharing brother!

[@jesushentaichrist5729]

The guitar looks nice,going to get it

[@michaelsteven1090]

oh c'mon, you played the riff before this video..

[@derpyy4577]

Michael Steven lol the same shit I was thinking

[@javinohara9233]

In what video?

[@cooperarbogast4018]

@@javinohara9233 pretty sure they meant that he practiced beforehand. Whether or not he did or didn't, he went through his process step by step, showed us how he works his way into it, and how he hammers out each part before going to the next. Whether or not he played this AT ALL before the video is kinda irrelevant to anyone coming here looking for entertainment or practice techniques

[@dehazesings]

@@cooperarbogast4018 Factsss

[@krisskora7164]

Look at 2:34 swear he was bout to play the riff but remember he has a KZbin video to make.

[@sccootz]

Love these types of vids

[@xJonnybx100]

great to see the struggle of learning a song from such a great guitar player! glad you showed us this side of the production

[@severussid5856]

this is gold. learning how you urself learn is truly a big lesson in itself

[@BigEZ95]

I just started learning this yesterday, so this vid actually helps alot

[@FREDDEMANNEN01]

I love these videos keep em comming

[@f7viivvgiv]

Nice,cool riff Tyler and I definitely gonna try to play it.

[@averagejoe363]

Then you need a G note in the bass and still go to the seventh fret on the high E and sixth fret on the G-string for the verses. Then the chorus gets even harder because the picking pattern changes a little. This is an incredible song! I learned it! You can too! Just stick with it and the whole song will come together!

[@alanssays]

Sounds amazing man! You already played stop this train in your “habits of John Mayer” video I think the next John song you should learn is ‘Edge of Desire’

[@robertdivinagracia416]

Just amazing

[@Bakesale59]

I really love these learning videos. You can watch any number of guitar tutorial or cover videos, and there's always the slight air of "look what I can do" to them. But not these. These videos show that that everyone spends time grinding it out, no matter how good they are.

[@peanutismint]

Good work! That is really close. Keep going! 👍

[@Bidens_Diaper]

The verse has the hardest chord. Another insane thumb stretch. Adds a bass note on the low E while playing the same chords.

[@sigori4672]

I like how u r so comfortable practicing while filming urself

[@darrylsebastian1912]

Had to learn this song as well by ear & watching his Where the light is concert, the foot stomping associated with the percussive groove with the slap & flick helps out (like a metronome). Great vid nonetheless Tyler..

[@abhinovenagarajan.s7237]

I think the second hardest riff is probably In Your Atmosphere from his Live in LA album. What with the groove and the harmonics here and there and everything.

[@jgutierrezwelle3150]

Abhinove Nagarajan.S I learned to play that song in open E and it’s considerably easier than playing it in standard (which, I assume, is the appropriate tuning for that song). But, I second this.

[@abhinovenagarajan.s7237]

J Gutierrez Welle yeah that's true. The song is in Open E.

[@kyle71998]

J Gutierrez Welle The correct tuning is E B E F# B E

[@BlasterJunos]

@@abhinovenagarajan.s7237 It's EBEF#BE from what I remember, check cifra club

[@derekbravo7811]

Abhinove Nagarajan.S I don’t so, it’s easy, but who says it’s kinda harder for me

[@kylerliston7227]

Absolutely amazing

[@lasdudas9210]

Always rocking it Tyler! Cheers from Argentina. :)

[@dmantherooster9646]

Lasdudas who the hell lives in Argentina and speaks English

[@andrewc8653]

Try to learn “in your atmosphere” by John Mayer

[@andrewdenine1685]

Love your lessons your verry down to earth. Also I play spot the green prs game it's always there somewhere lol

[@philipholwerda4347]

Impressed how you learn songs yourself! Love the vids, keep them up! Its honing the finger flick to hit specific strings as you tap with your thumb instead of "strumming" with the finger flick. Agree neon is more difficult, especially for those without the capability to use the thumb and having to bar.

[@rjs2104]

Thumb slap and flick are together. Slap thumb and flick down on the G,B,E with the index and middle finger.. Note- slap and flick together at the same time 👍

[@clearasil11]

I really just started slapping the strings and after about two days they started hitting the right spots and now I can play it almost flawless

[@adamturner8732]

Just shows you how unbelievable and versatile player John is.

[@kristijanbavrka7677]

You have so much patience and good ear.. Awesome video

[@rollnonan456]

Kristijan Bavrka He went to Berklee so that explains his ears

[@MrCardman12345]

This is interesting. This is good. Do more of this.

[@themusic6808]

Mayer has a certain fingerstyle technique where when he accents the beat he sort of throws his hand down letting his fingers hit the strings while also letting the notes ring out. Like a percussive chord but not like how we normally do slaps where we hit our palm down on the strings muting them. His fingerstyle on this has a rolling sound, the notes sustain there’s no pauses or rests in between.

[@michaelvarney.]

People calling my technique “shitty” after seeing a video of me trying this technique (after 5 min trying). Then I see a great guitarist going through similar struggles on the same thumb flick/slap thing and I feel better. Don’t let others drag you down.

[@lalrinawmatlau972]

awesome vid..please do more john mayer

[@shoopSAUCE]

Never heard of Orangewood Guitars before but man, they sound good!

[@w.l.h.]

Nice. I grew up in the Shenandoah Valley. Staunton. Enjoy your stay! Say hi to my folks for me. Haha

[@west-gu1wn]

John talks about how he does that particular strumming pattern in one of the Instagram live videos on KZbin, the video's title is John Mayer gives guitar lessons to his fans. Hes wearing a black hoodie and using a black strat.

[@benpeters3427]

I think it literally took me 2 weeks of pluck and chucking and my steering wheel while driving to and from campus and a ton of practice to actually get this song down lmao

[@bluestorm017]

Awesome! I live in the Shenandoah Valley! Would have been awesome to meet up! Maybe a quick guitar lesson...

[@paolothomson5883]

It's been a year since this video but i just picked up today. My advice is to move a lot the thumb before the slap thing, like pointing towards the listener. It helps me a lot to keep up the rythm. Keep up the Good content!

[@smeethenation9136]

Still Feel Like Your Man is tough, but also really fun if you want to check that one out! Fun to find the nuances with your ear.

[@anna-zz8ge]

Really cool video, even though i didnt really pay attention to what you were playing, because i couldnt help it but stare at your shirt, i mean... Is it Blue or Green?? BLUE OR GREEN???

[@victoriagonzalezz12]

started learning this song yesterday I CRY

[@blackaichi23]

Quality content 👌🏽

[@Achase4u]

Enjoy your vacation! I live in the Shenandoah valley. If you want to grab a bite, let me know!

[@laynecampbell2230]

I just realized that I chose not to watch this video until two days later, and he was in the area I live when this came out.

[@user-cq4ff6di7n]

This is one of the first songs I learned because it's what made me want to really play . But as the years went buy I mastered it and now my fingers have this default picking pattern that can be a bit strenuous sometimes.

[@BKkillaz]

I live in the shen valley! Dope

[@roopak9341]

Its just different.....i love playing this...

[@samizzy]

Haha I luv this bec I remember trying to figure out how in the world john plays that note on the 4 beat and slap at the same time lol

[@astridgodoy1524]

Tanto esperando por este video.

[@lilwing98]

Hey man, Love your videos! I'm in Harrisonburg, VA , what part of the valley are you in?

[@iannefai]

We have the same process in learning songs. ☺️

[@tomken5919]

Tyler, I noticed that right hand “picking” is nearly identical in stop this train and heart of life. I learned stop this train first (took many many hours) and found it to be very very difficult. Later on I picked up heart of life in 15 minutes and found it to be very easy, only because I learned stop this train. Wondering if you might have similar experience

[@ChickenFriedBrad]

Love this song! I've been trying to learn how to play it for a while. I have the notes right, but I just can't get that "pluck and chuck" method down.

[@TheVirginianRambler]

You’re in Virginia? Come visit me!!! I live in central VA! If you come to Lynchburg you can play a 1965 fender strat in amazing condition.

[@Eragius2000]

Your trusty worthy PRS in the background ;)

[@tristantheartist]

The slapping quarter note is a slap with your thumb while you strum the chord with your index

[@JuiceBoxX]

usually he only plucks one note with the strum-slap, it's really delicate

[@dwikysetya6513]

exactly! he's just not familiar with that

[@2408heineken]

You got my subscription

[@williambaumert7726]

The intro is easy its when he goes into the verse and he moves from D to G where you really have to stretch with your fingers and it gets hard. But great video hope this becomes a series.

[@leesecord3691]

I wanted to ask if you were doing any more habits of videos. Could you do one on johnny winter please? Hes an amazing guitarist and uses a lot of slide.

[@Vhavoc]

Please make this into a series! 😬🙏

[@JamesShore1990]

Blimey, I was mentioned in a video of yours! Finally my rise to super stardom can begin!

[@Cain22222]

duude you have to do the same with the solo in bold as love, that is fucking amasing, salute from perú

[@dmon553]

He's playing it wrong but it still sounds good

[@malesmandi]

Maan you’re damn good. I would never figure out that technique by myself

[@jimihdx768]

Lol this was so hyped... It's easier than I expected it to be ...at least without the singing .

[@perrycomo7984]

That is so cool I live like an hour away from there

[@dawsoncutchins8128]

Could you do a habits of Mac DeMarco video?

[@joshrosenblum6807]

You're close but the quarter note slap is with your thumb and at the same time you play the B string with the nail of your index finger. it took me FOREVER to get. if you think about only slapping with your thumb and keeping your index finger in a position where it can hit the string, that helps a lot