Learning to love this French thing (as an American)

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Baguette Bound

Baguette Bound

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@johnjeanb
@johnjeanb 9 ай бұрын
We (French) are strange people. Having lived and worked in the USA I can feel the change. This is NOT about inefficiency in France but rather a TOTAL refusal of taylorization AND a way to understand better what you are trying to achieve. There is a definite approach to make things sophisticated. As a Frenchman I felt this frustration the otherway around observing how simple questions in the US were (they take us for deeply stupid dafts). Don't be fooled, French are very effective but they learn to behave as if it was not the end of the world in the next 5 minutes.
@afterburner94
@afterburner94 8 ай бұрын
Obviously read that picturing you typing and commenting while smoking a cig. NGL.
@thomasharter8161
@thomasharter8161 7 ай бұрын
@@afterburner94 What kind of ridiculous comment is that ? Oh, American cynicism? What a predictable bore.
@Florence3121
@Florence3121 7 ай бұрын
The French’s habit of making things ‘sophisticated’ is called perfectionism. That’s both inefficient and toxic.
@Florence3121
@Florence3121 7 ай бұрын
‘Keep It Simple’ is smart.
@geriobobo5238
@geriobobo5238 7 ай бұрын
@@Florence3121 Simplicity is smart and simplism is stupid.
@lindylee1139
@lindylee1139 9 ай бұрын
I like how you look beneath the surface to better understand French culture.
@CharlotteGil-dt3ox
@CharlotteGil-dt3ox 7 ай бұрын
Isn't above the surface, rather ?
@ep7503
@ep7503 9 ай бұрын
American way to add all optimum is in fact inefficient as any graduated in mathematics will tell you that sum of optimum is rarely global optimum .
@Alex-mp1zb
@Alex-mp1zb 9 ай бұрын
As informative and open-minded as usual. One day I was waiting for my turn in a post-office with a lot of other people when someone started grumbling he was losing too much time waiting. Then an old woman said: "Why worry? You won't be so hurried when Death comes for you". That made everybody laugh and realise she was right. I've never forgotten what she said!
@zorglub20770
@zorglub20770 8 ай бұрын
somehow, it reminds me a phrase in Shawshank Redemption : "get busy living, or get busy dying"
@3arezu
@3arezu 7 ай бұрын
@@zorglub20770 this is exactly the quote I was thinking of omg 😭
@nathnn3419
@nathnn3419 7 ай бұрын
@Alex-mp1zb It’s a very French way of thinking. We have lots of little phrases like these to remind us every day to put things into perspective. “a shroud has no pockets”, there is no point in accumulating wealth without enjoying it since we do not take it with us to death, “Hell is paved with good intentions” reminds us that wanting to do “Good” is not enough, you have to do it the right way, “there is no death of a man” or “it’s not the death of the little horse” to say that it’s okay, it it's not so serious, in the register of it's not serious we also have "not enough to whip a cat" or "not enough to break three legs of a duck", and sometimes when people get angry and mix everything up it ends with "there's no reason to whip a three-legged cat", which makes the person at the source of the annoyance in general laugh a lot...
@bikesfrench8524
@bikesfrench8524 7 ай бұрын
​@@nathnn3419et en Suisse l expression (il n'y a pas le feu au lac ) ou (qu'on voit ce qu'on voit quand on entend ce qu'on entend on a bien raison de penser ce qu'on pense)😅
@31200Julien
@31200Julien 7 ай бұрын
"memento mori" disaient les chrétiens du moyen-âge :)
@olivierdelatouche9453
@olivierdelatouche9453 7 ай бұрын
What a lot of Americans don't get is (I m a bartender in paris) employees in restaurants or shops are not your property or their bosses property just because you pay. So yes, say hello, say thanks , say bye, from a french perspective it shouldn't even have to be explain to grown adults, it's just some basic shit parents teach their kids when they're 4 years old. I m glad you still like it here, I wish y'all the best
@budapestkeletistationvoices
@budapestkeletistationvoices 2 ай бұрын
Englanders also think that you're a property of an employer and a servant of customers
@pomb4946
@pomb4946 23 күн бұрын
This is such an excellent point.
@sahmyeti
@sahmyeti 25 күн бұрын
I grew up in Iowa, and French life seems so similar to living there. You would spend an hour at the grocery store because you talk to people as you shop, talk to people while standing in line and the cashier would answer any questions the person has that they are ringing up. I only left because I wanted higher education that wasn’t available there. But I love the slow pace when I go home, it’s so relaxing. Though now the food is terrible. Used to be delicious, and would come from farmers stands. My family and I would spend time on the porch together shucking the corn we got at the stand for that nights dinner. Now it’s all processed and sprayed with chemicals.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Totally. The pace can vary a lot dep on location anywhere, but you're right you just can't get food anymore in the US almost anywhere one could afford to live.
@johnmadox
@johnmadox 7 ай бұрын
Je vous conseille de lire Jean de la Fontaine (a french writer born in 1621) Le lièvre et la tortue ... If you like books you're gonna love it , and have a better understand about french cukture is 😉😉
@photolover6944
@photolover6944 8 ай бұрын
Would you beleive that several studies showed that French workers are among the most productive in Europe ? More than Germans for example.
@gchecosse
@gchecosse 7 ай бұрын
Yep. GDP per hour worked is fairly similar between France, USA, Germany, Belgium etc. It's higher per year in the USA because they work more hours.
@nathnn3419
@nathnn3419 7 ай бұрын
in fact it doesn't shock me, we have our schedules, we stick to them, we make sure to finish the day's work before it's time to go home, and since we don't feel obliged to be double shifts at office to appear efficient and invested, we ultimately probably spend less time on CandyCrush during work hours, than in countries where they are obliged to appear to live in the office to be taken seriously. If we have an hour of downtime during the day, we'll play for 5 minutes, and then we'll go around in circles, tidy up a little, take advantage of it to reclassify this damn file, go have a coffee with the colleagues, maybe give them a slip a helping hand if needed, but in any case, the job is done at departure time.
@Arkansya
@Arkansya 2 ай бұрын
looking like you are doing stuff =/= doing stuff. (also this prodictivity thing is linked to the fact we have generally better trained workers and pour main economic sectors have more value added)
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Nope not surprised at all. Studies are consistent in showing that the most balanced-life countries are always the most productive. You can only neurologically be high-producing in something around 30hrs/wk. We are nomadic by biology so are best when things are changing in our environment with the rhythm of seasons - stagnant life and tasks are not suited to the body.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
@@gchecosse GDP per hour worked would be higher outside US then; I think there may be a typo in your second sentence since it contradicts the first.
@giova3026
@giova3026 7 ай бұрын
As you said, it all works out. We came by ship via the Queen Elizabeth , picked up in Ft Lauderdale, traveled thru Bahamas, Portugal and final port Barcelona. And then a train to Bordeaux to start our life in France. Yes, every single person and even some French surprisingly, " why not take an airplane?" Well, it will be in our family an experience we will forever hold dear. Our kids keep asking to do it again. And we might but maybe just around the Mediterranean! Of course, 15 years ago we took a train from Fl to NYC , so thats been always our mode. French life overall has been just what we hoped. We still have been frustrated but now 7 months later we are feeling at home here. Enjoy every step , every view , every person. And as many lives as you can do in this one lifetime, do it!
@andrewrooney653
@andrewrooney653 Ай бұрын
At times it is useful to regard life as one long transition interspersed with "projects" or events. The important part is living the transition!
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
@@andrewrooney653 Indeed!
@fredericchabannes7166
@fredericchabannes7166 7 ай бұрын
you both are adorable. As a french person I understand very well your daily experience of french life. I do think we, french, are used to taking our time but it reminds me a thought I had during a trip to New York 10 years ago. I was at a hotel in Manathan and watching a delivrer man who pick up little boxes, one by one, to deliver the hotel. I said to myself, "what a waste of time ! this would never happen in France"... Well, we are all different and that's great ! Thanks for your videos. I really appreciate them.
@leaedt7614
@leaedt7614 7 ай бұрын
Went to Mississippi the summer before last (from France). We landed first in Atlanta and found that everybody at the airport (customs officer, staff) was very laid back and in no rush at all. This impression was confirmed in Mississippi: people in the South take their time. They are also very friendly. We enjoyed that.
@NothingBeingEverythingforNoOne
@NothingBeingEverythingforNoOne 5 ай бұрын
French born and raised here, who's lived in the US for over 40 years now (but soon retiring in France, thank God!!) I believe that this american fixation on efficiency stems in part from the fact that they have to work so much more than the French, because they desperately NEED to! They need to because of the enslaving amount of debt the vast majority of them (77% in 2022) carry: The AVERAGE household debt in the US is $97,000 that includes students loans, credit cards loans, insane car loan payments, and mortgages they should have never been approved for! And to make matters worse, they have to pay through the nose for health insurance that barely cover the basics but still come with large deductibles! Even their subpar diet (due to the subpar nutritional value of all US processed food) is dominated by drive-through FAST (processed )FOOD! No time to eat properly! Thus without their proudly vaunted efficiency they would literally have ZERO time left to simply LIVE: spending time with their family, traveling their vast and beautiful country, and take time to truly enjoy and share proper food with friends and family! So while the US may claim efficiency of work and production, the French will work less, and less perhaps less efficiently, they will always dominate in the art of living. The saying: "Americans live to work.The French work to live" is indeed true and accurate. Vive la France!
@jml4774
@jml4774 9 ай бұрын
I agree 100% with the slow pace and inefficiency. However, I would postulate that the fruit vendor is not slow or inefficient, she is doing a specific job, one that takes time. People who go to her booth are paying for her expertise (in time and in money.) There are other aspects of French life that are specifically inefficient, like having to go to a separate cashier if you use cash in Gallerie Lafayette, for example , or topping off a tram card (in Nice) online with a credit card and the credit not being good for 72 hours. I just chalk it up to "It's the French way." There are so many wonderful things that outweigh any inconvenience, it's worth it. To be honest, you can find loads of inefficiency in the USA too. Try calling any company and getting to speak to a live person.
@BaguetteBound
@BaguetteBound 9 ай бұрын
Absolutely, that was definitely what we wanted to share...that "fast" doesn't always equal efficiency depending on what you're trying to accomplish. It feels like the French really get that. It's takes as long as it takes to do the thing well.
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 7 ай бұрын
@@BaguetteBound You guys are actually quite good, at noticing and understanding cultural differences. Kudos.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Yes that is what they shared.
@Valjao67
@Valjao67 6 ай бұрын
At work, French are very productive when it’s required but when it’s not, we don’t really care for efficiency. Most of us thing it’s a bit alienating to be always quick, efficient and that enjoying what we are doing is part of the journey in everything. For the administration, even we are frustrated because everything is slow and complicated, except for paying taxes. Our french internet website Trésor Public is very good, easy to use but of course, it’s for paying taxes, a French delight 😂
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Great perspective. And for what it's worth, I'm a lifetime efficiency expert and user design consultant and there is no comparison i can offer to the straightforwardness and usability of the French governmental sites I interact with. Hands down the best in the world as far as I can tell!
@rbelu1
@rbelu1 7 ай бұрын
We live slowly, we work few hours but still we have a productivity wich is similar to the US. This is mainly because when you work too much you get tired and then get inneficient. Rest is the key here. So yes, slow way of life is definitely the best, i guess that spanish and italian people will agree with me Slow work is also a key for quality
@francocanuck
@francocanuck 2 ай бұрын
A Corsican saying ( slowly in the morning and not to fast in the afternoon ,you will live longueur ) and do not forget the apero
@lauratassemkalonis6975
@lauratassemkalonis6975 4 ай бұрын
I discovered you yesterday and i think i watched all your videos. I am french and as a previous expact, i love to see my country in the eyes of others. I love that you talk about your experience and you share your views on it and how open minded you are. You are only missing one thing ; you need to go to a protest once (peaceful one). their you can see the french strenght and good vibe :). cant wait to watch your next adveture and we are so happy to count you as part of our people. thanks for choosing us.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
It's generally the opposite of okay to protest in someone else's country, so I'm curious about this comment. Many of us have gone to plenty of protests in our own countries and that's why we leave them, which may or may not be what you are referring to.
@grumbild3350
@grumbild3350 7 ай бұрын
Hey ! French 23 years old in aerospace engineering here, doing a double degree with Georgia Tech in Atlanta. It's a great video for me to try to get a grasp a bit better of american culture, and how you think. I just wanted to say that having done now a full semester in this american university, I just feeel like... Americans are super inefficient, at least academicaly speaking ! It's not a necessarily a bad thing, but i got really frustrated the first semester for several reason. First, the amount of things done in a semster. To be fair, it really depends on which courses your're taking, but for example, it was mandatory for me to re-take classes in the university that i've done before, during my scientific "prépa" (If you don't know the concept, i encourage you to search it online). I did in ONE FULL SEMESTER at georgia tech what we did in... 3 weeks in France! And the course was much harder in France, with real exercices and tests ! I have 4/4 of GPA in the uni when i had only 14.5/20 of average grade in my french engineering school, and i kinda felt like the teacher was insulting my intelligence by being too nice and giving too easy tests, there was absolutely no challenge at all, exept being able to know by heart the course (which as an engineer, is useless, you're a better engineer if you can solve problems, not recite them). In term of diversity of courses, in a french semester, you would do 3 to 4 times more courses than in an american uni. Also, during group project, i was paired with americans. And i do not know how on earth it was possible, but the work i did in like 2 or three hours would take them 6 to 8 hours. And i'm clearly not a genius, or a workaholic (I spend most of my time taking aperos at night with the other french student, inviting americans to come, and having in response "i'm so sorry but i need to work i can't". I only worked during daytime, like 3-4 hours a day, and achieved so much more... And still had the time to take naps when they were so stressed by everything). I love America for the opportunity it offers me, but I can't even express how much I feel like i'm the efficient one here lmao
@BaguetteBound
@BaguetteBound 7 ай бұрын
This is so interesting, thanks for sharing your experience! Good luck with the rest of your schooling and time in the US.
@grumbild3350
@grumbild3350 7 ай бұрын
@@BaguetteBound Thank you so much ! I hope I wasn't too rude criticizing like this American Uni system, like a real french negative feedback giver. Welcome to France, we are happy to have you here !
@saraha9937
@saraha9937 7 ай бұрын
I am french and work for an american company in France. As a global company, americans were surprised that they could learn great practices from the European branch. Also, in meetings for example, I found that americans are also less direct and to the point. It seems it takes longer to work out solutions because of this roundabout way of going to the issue. This echoes something said in another video about criticism in France.
@luciopepito124
@luciopepito124 5 ай бұрын
I studied 6 months in the UK, I finished the test in 20 minutes, sure to have maximum grade, it was exactly the same than 2 years before. English students stayed for the full 2 hours and found it so challenging. I have to idea how they prepare their exams. They spent days and weeks at "the library", I never understood wtfthey were doing. I'm now 40 years old, and can tell that nearly everything I learnt in French school is useless in corporate world. In UK, I learnt nothing but working on projects as a team and speak in front or large audience. So now I realize the way they study is closer to real jobs requirements, mainly soft skills. France is simply preparing everyone to become PhD at CNRS.
@grumbild3350
@grumbild3350 2 ай бұрын
@@rhythmPhil @rhythmPhil Well I disagree, I am now studying for my PhD quals, and, no, nothing is more complex here. I have ppl coming from MIT with who I work for for my research, and I am not impressed. My french engineering master was way more complex. And by the way, 50% of the students here are international. Yes prépa is "overkill" for most french people, but the end result is really quite impressive. I can very clearly see the difference between people that went through prépa and the other (I'm ONLY talking about Frenchies, some didn't do prépa, just postbac schools). They are more efficient, by a lot. 30% of the internationals of my lab are french or ppl from marrocco, Lebanon or Algeria that went to french prépa, because they score higher than the Americans and (that's unfortunate to say, but that's true) because they are Europeans or close (they stopped accepting as much asian people as before). BUT they are way better than french schools at doing hands on things, or projects. There is more money, more possibilities, and it feels like there is no glass ceiling here. They are preparing you for a real engineer job in the industry, and I would say that they are better as us on that. But we definitely have stronger people for doing research, their big brains are quite often non Americans!
@pimgrim1
@pimgrim1 7 ай бұрын
notez bien que la France est classée habituellement parmi les pays les plus productifs au monde, d'ailleurs nous faisons en 39h ce que les autres font en général en 50 h. Ce temps gagné nous permet d'avoir plus de loisirs chaque jour, ce que les étrangers ne comprennent pas et ils pensent à tort que nous sommes lymphatiques.
@teresadrozd7171
@teresadrozd7171 Ай бұрын
thank you so much! so glad i found your chanell❤❤
@mahasamatman12
@mahasamatman12 Ай бұрын
Productivity is much higher in France than in the US
@mabo4165
@mabo4165 7 ай бұрын
When it comes to fruit and vegetables at the market, it's not just the advice from the sellers that's appreciated. It's also the fact that you can buy produce that hasn't been touched or damaged by rude customers (as happens in places where everyone chooses their own produce).
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Oh that is a great point, and certainly even if there are no rude people it reduces hugely the amount of germ transmission.
@gohumberto
@gohumberto 7 ай бұрын
I lived in the US for a while (Rochester, MN) and I can say that Americans are very productive at getting the things done that I don't care about much. French administration is terribly slow. My French friends know this, and don't like it, but nothing changes, but it's just something you accept. French lifestyle is why I now live in France. Yes, everyone stops for a 2 hour lunch. Many shops are closed for a 2 hour lunch. You can treat this as a bad thing or a good thing. You can see it as inconvenient or you can see it as a way to spend a civilised lunch with your family, every day, rather than eating a Subway at your office desk, with a phone on your shoulder. BTW. It's "Pay-Ree-Gur", not "Perry-Goo".
@saraha9937
@saraha9937 7 ай бұрын
I am french and found adminstrative things SO slow in the USA (not to say it's great in France, but that neither is better in fact).
@nox8730
@nox8730 8 ай бұрын
The french are amongst the most productive in the OECD. Americans are not fundamentally more productive, contrary to their assumption. I know what it is like to be under tremendous pressure at all times and do the job of 3 different persons at the same time, without even more than 2 seconds to let out a sigh. And i am certainly not american.
@saraha9937
@saraha9937 7 ай бұрын
I agree ! Americans have this false sense of being super productive compared to others, and that can lead to being condescending, when in fact statistics prove otherwise. There are just different ways.
@yohanannatanson4199
@yohanannatanson4199 Ай бұрын
The US is a little more productive than France (69.7 USD GDP per hour vs 67.9 USD.) Definitely not a very significant difference... Perception is everything here! (Source: International Labour Organisation.)
@nox8730
@nox8730 Ай бұрын
@@yohanannatanson4199 But perception is influenced heavily by propaganda, right? There is a certain degree of propaganda everywhere, but i feel like americans are much more receptive to it than anywhere else in the world, while at the same time, said propaganda is on a level of its own there (pledge of allegiance on the flag in grade school...?). Which is why thoughts of americans that left and started a new life elsewhere tend to be so interesting. It is a true human adventure.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 15 күн бұрын
@@saraha9937 Americans do a lot of hours, but they don't do much during those hours. This was brought home to me when on forums with Americans all day. I was unemployed, they were at work! In France you go to work and work non stop.
@sergiofernandes5633
@sergiofernandes5633 Ай бұрын
Very clever and sensitive video. Thanks.
@alkante2962
@alkante2962 8 ай бұрын
Je tombe sur votre vidéo par hasard. C'est amusant parce que, vu de France, ce sont les États-Unis qui, malgré leurs indéniables réalisations, paraissent les rois de l'inefficacité hystérique qui laisse tant de gens au bord de la route. En France, et malgré le fait- ou à cause de lui- que les Français ne sont jamais contents de rien et râlent beaucoup, tout est fait rationnellement et ils savent profiter de la vie pour beaucoup moins cher que dans les pays anglo-saxons, qui plus est. Bien que cela soit en train de changer, hélas, à cause d'une volonté politique systématisée de casse du Service Public mis en place après-guerre. Bon séjour et bonne journée. Corrigé à des fins orthographiques le 22 mai 2024.
@fablb9006
@fablb9006 7 ай бұрын
France is a catholic-based country, which means that we are not as based on earning money and be economically efficient than northern European countries, being based more on protestant values,
@goofygrandlouis6296
@goofygrandlouis6296 7 ай бұрын
true
@michellecbauer
@michellecbauer 5 ай бұрын
Love these tips! You two are so cute and I love every video. Thanks!
@huguesroland6308
@huguesroland6308 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the things that characterizes France and the French, we have a lifestyle oriented towards quality of life, sometimes, it's true, more than towards speed or apparent efficiency. To better understand the process, keep in mind that a French person will prefer to take more time to do something if it means they don't have to come back to it later.
@Stoney00075
@Stoney00075 Ай бұрын
I wish others could be as informative and thorough as you have been. Any chance you could replicate around Europe?😊 Thank you.
@mikesmith-rp1mb
@mikesmith-rp1mb 7 ай бұрын
"C'est compliqué " I'm going to get a t-shirt made up.... 🇫🇷❤️ ☘️💚🇮🇪
@alkante2962
@alkante2962 7 ай бұрын
Well, when someone says that to you, it really means "c'est difficile" or even "c'est impossible". But they are not courageous enough to say it as it is. I would say this trend of not calling a cat, a cat appeared and took the high road in the 80's, along the spread of a commercial/trade/services set of mind in the whole society, where the client is the the king, no one dares to upset him and above all no bad news is allowed : stay positive! is the forced mantra. Telling things as they are is frown upon, this era tends to be the era of hypocrisy and blindness, some people are so positive that they would be robbed/bullied/murdered without (ac)know(ledg)ing it 😢
@4U2C-xq9wt
@4U2C-xq9wt 4 ай бұрын
Great channel and well worth my time. You're setting the bar kind of high for others 😉
@BaguetteBound
@BaguetteBound 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@grigoriiarutiunian6539
@grigoriiarutiunian6539 4 ай бұрын
Lovin your vlog, keep it going 🎉
@jean-pascalesparceil9008
@jean-pascalesparceil9008 9 ай бұрын
Hello! Public services have been neglected by the successive goverments (administrations in US speak); but I can tell you with confidence that emergency services personnel are trying to get things done, quickly and efficiently. Firemen, paramedics, gendarmes will respond and help you. Years ago people called the Pompiers (firemen/paramedics, local volunteers) for getting rid of wasps nests, rescuing cats stranded in high trees and so on. Yes, personnal contact and advice is valued, is still important in commerce, is severely degraded in publc services because there is just not enough people working there.
@Belaziraf
@Belaziraf 8 ай бұрын
Not exactly true. There are too many people in public services. But very badly managed Useless ministries created by successive governments only to employ their acquaintances are still around. A way to reward "supporters". French administration is probably one of the worst in the world. A birth certificate for foreigners took 6 week to get from Nantes, accounting for mails exchange. With internet, it takes 5 weeks. They fire militaries and policemen which take long term formations to have efficient ones. Then one day they woke up and announce massive recruitment with 3-6 month formations. Then we end with policemen and soldiers who are basically novices, untrained for sensitive situation and end in dramatic mistakes or abuse. The same goes for education and healthcare. They conducted an experiment in Valenciennes and Maubeuge in the North. Setting a management system a bit closer to private clinics. Administrative personnel added for paperwork, medical secretaries to be the link with actual medical staff, administration and patients. With the same number of personnel, they heal more people. Why ? Because nurses are less strained and they no longer spend 40% of their time managing things outside of their field of expertise. Doctors and chief of services are granted small direct budget for emergency use and consumable instead of needing to go through commissions to even order a 0.20€ pencil. French administration need a profound reform. Getting more field personnel, delegating administrative tasks to people who have been taught for it. And most of all, dissolving and stop creating fake ministries and cabinets that weight quite heavily on the National budget. While, on the other hand, they make cuts on social services.
@venielgui1673
@venielgui1673 7 ай бұрын
In french, the quality of life in the work is for make quality for your job for your compagny. It s note slowly Time, it s for efficacité and quality. Sorry, i have speak english .. 30 years .. i leave in the Landes.
@eobi-edobi4275
@eobi-edobi4275 7 ай бұрын
oooohhh ,(i am from NL ) the Perigord, i've been there about 20 years ago, that was about the book series from Jean M Auel. earthchildren, have you been to Lasceux deux ( i hope it i spelled it correctly) it is beautifull.
@mariembalo3076
@mariembalo3076 7 ай бұрын
Lascaux 2 (yes, it is beautifull)
@TheTserko2000
@TheTserko2000 7 ай бұрын
Interesting video. After some time you will learn that every single French person is involved in some sort of battle with a public administration in order to get something done. Whether it is some sort of authorisation, some procedure or whatever. It is extremely frustrating and infuriating on a daily basis. Thank God we have wine and cheese to forget about these problems
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
This is literally an issue in every country, though, too. I just encountered a two-appt, two-month long process that in the past would have been 15 minutes in and out without an appt. to just renew my existing driver's license in my US state. No change of address. No change in terms. Just a renewal.
@antondoubriouchkouf5724
@antondoubriouchkouf5724 7 ай бұрын
Juste une remarque, ayant habité une année dans le Sud-Ouest (le Gers), c'est vrai que les gens prennent le temps de vivre 🙂 Si vous allez dans l'Est de la France, en Alsace par exemple, c'est une autre histoire, là l'heure c'est l'heure! Peut-être que le style de vie des US s'approche plus du style de vie germanique (allemand) ?
@texnoti
@texnoti 7 ай бұрын
Yes, for a tourist it maybe is 'anoying' but as a way of life - it's good. I can somewhat compare it to camping trips with a caravan, usally I can drive 120km/h on a highway but with the caravan hooked on behind I'm restricted to 80km/h. But when on holiday with the caravan I get into the 'slow mode' - and it's fine.
@PathLessPedaledTV
@PathLessPedaledTV 7 ай бұрын
Similar feeling moving to Spain :)
@jonathankoskas9975
@jonathankoskas9975 27 күн бұрын
As a French, I feel like you're describing Italy!😅
@jean-doturgis3896
@jean-doturgis3896 2 ай бұрын
I find that this “think before you jump” thing is a major cultural difference between the two countries. It comes with a reflex of always asking why instead of executing tasks. Very annoying to Americans dealing with French employees or wanting to do business in France. The handshake deal simply cannot exist when one of the parties first wants to have all the details, think about it for a week and when laws give you the right to renegate on any purchase for 7 days…
@clairebreuleux2928
@clairebreuleux2928 7 ай бұрын
Always think of what's importante to you ...
@JenniferDemarestProperties
@JenniferDemarestProperties 16 күн бұрын
And remember if you can't or don't want to. be open to the different methods and pacing of the new culture. You can simply enjoy French movies at home while eating Nutella! 😂😂
@gregsama785
@gregsama785 6 ай бұрын
The more you go south on the northern hemisphere/ or the more you go north on the southern Hemisphere, you can observe a culture with lower productivity. Its what i found out while traveling the world
@MYOPE-vo5jf
@MYOPE-vo5jf 4 ай бұрын
Ooooooh that's the reason why my wife is so obsessed by achieving millions of things, and crashing around 18.00, she's been raised in the states ! it all makes sense now, thanks for this video (French dude here, one thing done a day ;) )
@BaguetteBound
@BaguetteBound 4 ай бұрын
Glad to be of service! 😅
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Yes and the crashing around then is also an adrenal disorder that is epidemic in the US and which crashes all the other body systems. As a person now totally disabled with all those conditions, may I encourage your wife to stohhhp! It's not worth dying for
@lindastewartbrown4915
@lindastewartbrown4915 7 ай бұрын
Europeans actually do better with production and efficiency than North America. Lol. They may ( Americans) THINK they're busy but looks baffles reality. Don't you need health insurance in the US? A friend just had a stroke in the US and the bills are staggering. Feel free to speak up about how great life is here and if others don't get it, please let them go.
@arnodobler1096
@arnodobler1096 2 ай бұрын
Well, US people are about 30% more at work per year, so not really more productive.
@fabricel3937
@fabricel3937 7 ай бұрын
Thank you for your vidéos. I’m French and it is very interessing. May be there is a différence between wheee you live and paris. Some way of life you spire about was similar than parisien Life.
@fabricel3937
@fabricel3937 7 ай бұрын
*spoke about
@pierreernoult
@pierreernoult 7 ай бұрын
I could choose my Mutuelle (personal health insurance) directly online. But every time I came back to it, the price would change from sometimes the double. I had to try many times to get the right price close to the lowest I had. Isn’t that an American way to sell something?
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Yes, and most online wireframes are driven by US values since US is the biggest market and the makers of the wireframes are primarily people working for almost no money off Fiverr etc who have to appeal to the US myth of efficiency - get it done fast, no specs, no customizing for user experience.
@Irulan10
@Irulan10 7 сағат бұрын
Well if everything was efficient, we would have nothing to complain about, and that would be catastrophic. What would French people talk about if they couldn't complain? "Râler" is our national sport!
@patricphillip8591
@patricphillip8591 19 күн бұрын
Yes, my experience is also that Americans are more 'efficient' in alot of things, but if you had moved to Germany you would have felt like the LEAST efficient people around. No, its not just a cliche' . It's not the same as everything being easier, but you better get things sorted first time or you have to start over again. (If you didn't first pay for the visa Online, you whole application will be rejected and you have to start all over AND explain why you had an application rejected... and it will count against you for not doing it correctly the first time... 😢). Be happy with the French system, even if they want a copy of your birth certificate five times for the same application...
@christophebirglen9873
@christophebirglen9873 4 ай бұрын
Inefficiency in the USA... deserves a MUCH bigger video...
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Word.
@slicksalmon6948
@slicksalmon6948 7 ай бұрын
US citizens often behave horribly in France. It's embarrassing. I tell people I'm Canadian.
@igorka3586
@igorka3586 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this observation. I think Americans would make the same observation throughout Europe. Europeans have a carbon footprint that is half that of Americans, and for that reason alone, I believe Americans are less efficient than Europeans.
@casanafranca
@casanafranca 8 ай бұрын
In New York, I just wanted to go to the top of the One World observatory, see the view, and leave. Instead, I was obliged to go through a ridiculous spectacle from the moment the elevator doors opened at the top, through some totally non sense fake-background picture taking (I had to insist that I was not interested in any picture, so that they finally let me through) and manage to avoid a bunch of crap-selling traps like people wearing Disney character costumes to sell souvenirs. I finally reached the windows, appreciated the view and left. Each place has its inconveniences, hope you still manage to enjoy the positives and just ignore the rest.
@BaguetteBound
@BaguetteBound 8 ай бұрын
This story made me laugh inside a little because it's true...in the US at every stage of an experience we will find a way to try to sell you something else. 😂 It could be visiting a site or buying a cell phone.
@Ellinillard
@Ellinillard 8 ай бұрын
Unnerving : I went through the same experience and grew irritated at exactly the same moments. The only positive surprise being the ride inside the elevators with the screens mimicking the ride.
@sylviewolniak4122
@sylviewolniak4122 2 ай бұрын
Working during 10 years for an american company in France I would not say that american people are more productive ; they are mainly opportunistic, and their only real true skill is making money. French people were not educated to be ambitious, pushy, daring, careerist, intriguing, young wolf, and presumptuous. We first study philosophy, literature, history, geography, languages. avery, Elimination of indigenous peoples, slavery, market and finance are not part of the basis of our education and training knowledge. The gap is hudge between us.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
Their (our) skill isn't even really making money - it's frittering away resources and stewarding badly and then shooting for short-term gains but never thinking longterm about how to grow the value and profit in multiple facets. Living in a liberal arts country is completely different than living in a business-school country.
@ariannewdnotbe
@ariannewdnotbe 9 ай бұрын
This is true.
@pter7531
@pter7531 7 ай бұрын
It's about savoir-vivre. Nuff said.
@guimsik3471
@guimsik3471 7 ай бұрын
Have you noticed that French women don't speak with a "vocal fry" ? Apart from that, your videos are great !
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
What is that?
@hermes6910
@hermes6910 2 ай бұрын
It's well known that US citizens are unlikely to be welcomed - for many reasons - in most countries. Especially in France. But you're exactly the kind of person, US or not, who could receive a warm welcome anywhere. And your French neighbors are probably more than happy to have you around ;)
@SPT1
@SPT1 7 ай бұрын
It feels like the US are so much based on business and competitiveness, or more simply put, nobody can "out-Capitalism" this country, that it transpires in daily life outside of work. Which is understandable because 99% of US citizens spend most of their time working. You are working more hours per year than the Japanese btw. And the very low number of hours per week where you can relax generates various issues like lack of sleep, depression, binge drinking, no time to travel, or to learn anything that isn't related to making money... you name it. Now that you are in lazy frogs country, I hope you can learn to keep your American work ethic at work, because it is essentially a good thing, if it stays at work, and learn to enjoy the (normally) bigger amount of free time you can get here. I would also advise to try to learn French, not only because of the practical advantages, but because learning any new language creates new connections in your brain and with it new ways of thinking. Basically you can learn Spanish or Japanese, it would have the same effect, but since you're in France... :D
@twinklefarm
@twinklefarm 3 ай бұрын
Jason, you have a French face! Where are you ancestors from? You look identical to a French man I know from Normandie, where I’m from…
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
I've thought that too. It's a little silly of me since I know as an anthropologist that we are all so mixed in ancestry that there's on such thing as a French face or any other kind, but it still distracts me sometimes!
@DanielCordey
@DanielCordey 7 ай бұрын
I really appreciate the way you presented this topic. In the US, the notion of service is really something you can count on, while in Europe it's a joke (most of the time). Even as European, I complain about this. Also, Americans are practical people... they don't try to build very complex procedure based on theoretical ideas... they simply do it. But, we also have to admit that some people are naturally efficient, while others are not... or their perception of the word "efficiency" is different. If some people complain about inefficiency and bad service... try to come to Spain 🤦‍♂
@davidniquot6423
@davidniquot6423 6 ай бұрын
Americans are productive, they're not better then the others. It's a false feeling. We kind optimise for pleasure, evaluating efficiency is not an easy task. I've landed twice in the USA (LA and San Franscisco) ... and .. i wasted hours in their lugages check, paper form to fill ... that was not efficient at all. Is efficiency building a million new houses or improve existent ones ... is it building a maximum of coca cola bottle .. or using reusable glass bottles ... Efficiency is maximizing pleasure in life and if you came to France its certainly cause this was something important for you, take your time... just enjoy what you do .. do not rush for the next thing you have to do.... just enjoy every second. It can be hard to follow this path but once you are into it ... nothing can touch you appart from disease and death.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
As an American and an efficiency expert, I've only been one place ever in America that felt productive. And I'm almost a half century in.
@gegene007
@gegene007 7 ай бұрын
I think what you are speaking about is.. a small town with a lot of old people with ni job to do and a lot of time to waste. Most people are going to "supermarché" after their working hours, and they are in a rush. Like everywhere else.
@SophieRomeo
@SophieRomeo 13 сағат бұрын
ridiculous comment
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 15 күн бұрын
I hate American style lines. you can ONLY be in the line. I prefer the French system where you sit down and get on with your life until they get to you. You hear efficiency, I hear waste my time. See Disney. All that time in lines.
@messyhomestead7320
@messyhomestead7320 11 күн бұрын
What is a style line? I didn't quite follow.
@Songbirdstress
@Songbirdstress 11 күн бұрын
@messyhomestead7320 American way of queueing.
@BEYSeamaster1
@BEYSeamaster1 7 ай бұрын
I am Lebanese, French educated, know France and the French upside down and backwards. I have been living in the USA since 1985. The French are very inefficient. The Americans are killing themselves with speed/efficiency/multitasking. However, all of this has to do in my opinion and experience with culture. The French culture is a culture that thrives on mais c’est pas possible. On the other hand, the American culture, as opposed to the pessimistic, whining French/European culture (I speak German too), is an overly optimistic, overly can do culture to ridiculous extremes. A great culture would be somewhere in the middle, like the Lebanese culture. 🤣 😂
@thomasharter8161
@thomasharter8161 7 ай бұрын
Indeed, when we see the situation in Lebanon we can only think that it is ideal. The proof is that the entire diaspora wants to return to Lebanon.
@BEYSeamaster1
@BEYSeamaster1 7 ай бұрын
@@thomasharter8161 good that you have a sense of humor and got my joke.
@paulin1606
@paulin1606 4 ай бұрын
we are "inefficient " but Lebanon is efficient is that right?? Is that what u meant? seriously? u wanna think twice maybe...
@BEYSeamaster1
@BEYSeamaster1 4 ай бұрын
@@paulin1606 ​​⁠Just in case you didn’t know, and speaking of thinking, did you think and know that Lebanon was a French mandate that inherited the archaic French system that is still being used in France and Lebanon since the Neolithic age. 😮 Don’t be offended, the whole of Europe and the Middle East are still in the Neolithic age. Look East young man. Companies from Germany, the powerhouse of Europe are fleeing to the USA and China at alarming speed. I meet with them weekly. Think about it.
@paulin1606
@paulin1606 4 ай бұрын
u are completly wrong!!! companies flee china, they dont go there anymore since covid! Lots of french companies ( not enough though) flee china and come back to France, something u seem to ignore! french is inefficient u say? so u dont know that a french worker is among the most productive, the best productivity per hour, in the world, in front of USA and China!! so stay with our "efficient " Lebanon, that' s rather falling apart , from what we see abroad....We are so "inefficient " that , as u can see for urself, beautiful American families move to our country, not lebanon, think about it!!
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