Learning To Timber Frame Made Easy Part 4: The Brace Mortise

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@jppendleton
@jppendleton 3 жыл бұрын
Legend has it Jim is still wrestling that piece of dry pine into submission somewhere. Thanks for the really informative and detailed series for a beginner like me. I was definitely intimidated by braces and their layout and measurement. Appreciate the hard work done here. v/r
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 3 жыл бұрын
This comment is going to the top!
@wildtwindad
@wildtwindad 4 жыл бұрын
Timber work was what made me truly appreciate the layout man. I would get frustrated that it was taking "forever" to get something done. Then voila! It took me screwing up on my own time to get it. Now I am the guy that stops/looks/assesses before picking up a tool. Quintessential skill you cannot learn in school.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I agree all the way, layout is king.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 4 жыл бұрын
Make a drill guide block by drilling the same size hole in about a 3 in thick wood block using a drill press. Then cut away the hole sides leaving a part of the hole as a guide. Clamp the guide block in place to steady the drill until it is started.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I made a guide out of 5/4 boards that I could put my foot against and it works quite well.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you've done a fair amount of timber work.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 4 жыл бұрын
I did some timber work in Nam creating a temporary repair for a ship that had a fair sized hole blown into it by a mine. Fortunately that part of the ship was empty so nobody was hurt. Also did some building as a teen.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I figured you'd been around it a bit.
@timhockersmith3934
@timhockersmith3934 4 жыл бұрын
Rusty or not, you still know your timber framing and how to pass that knowledge on. Great video! Thanks.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir.
@newdogatplay
@newdogatplay 4 жыл бұрын
Jim is back on track,with content
@QuiltyLady1
@QuiltyLady1 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the awesome lessons you're teaching us. I absolutely love this show and am grateful that you know what you're doing and you're willing to share it.
@ethanwhear7868
@ethanwhear7868 2 жыл бұрын
Love it, timber framing is so much more elegant and beautiful than stick frames! Appreciate these tutorials.
@mekaerwin7187
@mekaerwin7187 2 жыл бұрын
Because it takes some technical skill and not just a nail gun going on full automatic.
@KrugerrandFarms
@KrugerrandFarms 4 жыл бұрын
Good demo. it always helps to watch it done. I don't think you can get too much of this.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the tenon tool, it's going to get a workout. Nice design.
@bruce1816
@bruce1816 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, i hear ya on that dry pine !! Had some of that when we did the fort down in Rome !!! Ya tend to sharpen your chisels more and it helps but is still a pain in the butt to keep from tear out.
@ericeller9750
@ericeller9750 4 жыл бұрын
Can’t wait to see the design of the addition. Keep up the great work Jim
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It will be simple but nice
@uiop545
@uiop545 4 жыл бұрын
as always, atraight and to the point; many thanks jim for everything.
@terryeason4319
@terryeason4319 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad your leg is healing enough that you can get around better. I hope your looking a building a timber frame house in the future.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
The next frame is a house addition bit I would really like to do a full house.
@mikehegdahl5393
@mikehegdahl5393 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats on the new timber! As far as justdoing timber fram, some of us just miss seeing you do stuff! Grin.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Me too buddy, the regular job has been crazy this year.
@mikehegdahl5393
@mikehegdahl5393 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel until youtube pays better we need the day jobs!
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
You got that right.
@grahamallen3941
@grahamallen3941 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim, great to see you again. Only said to the wife this morning, “wonder how Jim is doing.” Another great, informative video Jim. I know what you mean about very dry pine for working with. Great spring to look forward too. Jim, really looking forward to that. Take care and be safe, hope the family is well. All the best, Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧🌲🌲🌲
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, only hope the removal of all of tbose needle bearing trees does not affect his friend's game patterns in too much of a negative way. Deer and elk like the cover of evergreen woodlands.
@grahamallen3941
@grahamallen3941 4 жыл бұрын
Thomas Russell the removal of just a few trees at a time might just show if the total removal of the pine trees would cause a problem. If it did it could be stopped before it was too late.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
We're doing well Graham, just staying busy!
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I won't even be making a dent in them, I don't believe in clear cutting stands. It will be selective cutting.
@grahamallen3941
@grahamallen3941 4 жыл бұрын
TheTradesmanChannel that’s good to hear Jim. I didn’t think you would go in and cut everything in sight! Picking the better trees for your needs is always going to be the best way. Not cutting and hoping it will do!! Graham🇬🇧🇬🇧🌲🌲
@neilaleksandrov2655
@neilaleksandrov2655 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, really great to see visually the entire process. Thank You!
@TheVze23sqf
@TheVze23sqf 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back Jim. 👍👍👍
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Guy
@A..n..d..y
@A..n..d..y 4 жыл бұрын
Love the vide series. I would like to see the other side done with the chain mortiser if you could.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
These might be a touch small for the machine but if you look in the timber frame vlog play list there is a ton of it.
@TheLightningLou
@TheLightningLou 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, awesome news!
@retiringrenegade9874
@retiringrenegade9874 4 жыл бұрын
Congrats Brother on the progress towards the new build! Happy for Ya landing that timber! Nothing I like better than reducing your input costs dramatically! Which is why I have been cutting hardwood all this past year for whatever yield I can manage! Enjoyed the content and tutelage as always! Have a great week, You and Yours be safe and well!
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy! We need to talk again soon.
@alexwilson9311
@alexwilson9311 4 жыл бұрын
I was suffering from timber frame withdrawals thanks for the fix Jim 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Me too Alex, Damn job!
@johntosten4779
@johntosten4779 4 жыл бұрын
Good morning Mr Jim, glad to see you back at it. One little trick I use when laying out reference marks that doesn't get cut I use dash's instead of a solid line and some times I even use red carpenter pencil. And remember to keep that salt shaker handy..lol have a great day!
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
What is the salt for?
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I should show it that way.
@terryeason4319
@terryeason4319 4 жыл бұрын
I watched you build your barn. From step one to where you had your last video of it. I'm real anxious to see your next fun and enjoy your tutorials here
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I am ready for another one.
@Edgardocelectric007
@Edgardocelectric007 4 жыл бұрын
Great video so funny your videos have gotten so much better must be the new cameras
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Much better showing the layout for sure. Couldn't really catch that the last time around.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
The new cameras and trying to change what I don't like about the old ones.
@claytonhobbs1360
@claytonhobbs1360 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks man! Appreciate your knowledge and tutorial.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I hope it's good info for you
@Edgardocelectric007
@Edgardocelectric007 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim if you have time can you show us doing the same with the chain mortiser
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Hahaha! Yeah, I'd love to see him cut that 3/4 inch wide 45° mortice with that wood hog. That could be entertaining.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
These mortises are too small for the machine.
@Ajwatters
@Ajwatters 4 жыл бұрын
Another great informative video yet again Jim...Can't wait for the new series on the house addition. Keep safe 🙏
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you AJ
@reylaferriere1990
@reylaferriere1990 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for all your insights. You simplify the process into layman terms. Much appreciated!! I'm almost finished my first ever timberframe pavilion. Just need to assemble and prefit everything. Then pack it and strap it until the spring. Merry Christmas Jim. Thank you for all you do.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Rey, congrats! You'll do well with those pavilions.
@reylaferriere1990
@reylaferriere1990 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel Thanks Bud, Still lots of learning to go.
@legendadlegendad
@legendadlegendad 2 жыл бұрын
Спасибо большое! Thank you very much!
@NCSU4x4
@NCSU4x4 4 жыл бұрын
Another great video.
@steveking4966
@steveking4966 4 жыл бұрын
nice to see you back jim, we work very differently! Most of my framing is in doug or oak, 6" square min prefer 8", main tenons and mortices 2" braces 1.5", all levelled and plumb scribed. We do that in 2 stages (1) assemble frame and draw dowel BUT we use metal pegs to check ass'y (got 20 1" metal pegs, then make sure the frame is level all ways then apply braces on top and plumb scribe the the brace mortices into the frame, that way we get everything right in 2D before it goes up in 3D , I do shoulder the main beams but the bracing seems like to much work to me. I reckon we are doing it bassically the same stregth wise but overall my way should be twice as fast and yes it is a combination of US and European framing techniques. The basis is the framing square being 1.5 on one arm and 2 inches on the other. That way i only need 4 chisels (1.5,2, 1.25corner and a slick. Nice to see you back on the ether ;0)
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy. The scribe is something I need to start learning more of, I've been square rule for everything up to this point.
@steveking4966
@steveking4966 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel i will e mail you some shots of what i do who knows even avid! (i am not the most photogenic) ;0)
@twagner6155
@twagner6155 4 жыл бұрын
I wondered if you made the housings after doing timber framing for a while? Also, hemlock is fragile, shrinks more and chips out some doesn't it?
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Morning Rusty, er, I mean Jim. Glad to see you're healthy and befuddeled, er , I mean strong. Don't forget to write down the 3/4 inch framing chisel on your winter to-do list. I know you're getting older and things tend to slip our memory as we age. As milling is part of the timber-framing, I am hoping you'll take us out to the woods with you and your Delmar and mill. I nice thick morticing chisel at closer to a 45° bevel would be nice for those brace mortices I would think. Good guide for the angle, and better scooping strength to remove the chips. Just a thought. See you next time you have the time to visit with us. Stay safe, and tell the family we're thinking of them.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
A mortise chisel would be perfect for small mortises like this one. Hope you're doing well bud.
@starboardwingwoodworks5235
@starboardwingwoodworks5235 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome back. Some clarification please. You say layout 23 1/2" .I thought the 3/8"set back in laying out the brace was to compensate for the 1/2" housing. Confused . SWWW
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
So on the 45* angle of the brace the 3/8" line accounts for the housing. The 23-1/2" layout accounts for the housing in the post and beam.
@GeorgeJirout
@GeorgeJirout 4 жыл бұрын
Always appreciated Jim!
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Good evening George
@yraggrebdnul
@yraggrebdnul 4 жыл бұрын
So Jim, have you tried wood owl bits?
@David-fv7zg
@David-fv7zg 3 жыл бұрын
This is a year old now, any plans to add to this series? Thanks again for doing this.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 3 жыл бұрын
I will be adding to it. I've put out about 300 timber framing videos with a lot of tutorial but I'm going to get into deeper on the next timber frame I'm gearing up for.
@techronmattic5876
@techronmattic5876 4 жыл бұрын
I know what you mean about getting out of practice with filming, im always out of practice lol
@TokyoCraftsman
@TokyoCraftsman 4 жыл бұрын
Moring Jim. I've been real busy, I've not been around. Looks like you have been real busy too, and I have some catching up to do. Cheers! Stu
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Howdy Stu!
@GreatPlainsCraftsman
@GreatPlainsCraftsman 4 жыл бұрын
WHY DON'T I HAVE A BIG AL! Nice job buddy
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Tim...you gotta get one...
@Grunt49
@Grunt49 4 жыл бұрын
Always good info.
@totherarf
@totherarf 4 жыл бұрын
Was getting ready to check YT hadn't disabled my notification ;0)
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
It's been crazy this year.
@totherarf
@totherarf 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel Tell me! Everyone is masked up and scared ...... and I get to go close and personal with 5 or 6 families a day! Only been asked to mask up twice ;0)
@kurtdietrich5421
@kurtdietrich5421 4 жыл бұрын
"More than once, I cut on the wrong side of the line". Never were truer words spoken. I did that twice. The lesson learned..... Measure three times, look at it 4 times, mark the side of the cut, and make sure you're correct.
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Yup, truth... mark the side to be cut. I have to or I am more and more likely to cut the wrong side as I get older. Too much on my mind, or my mind is slipping, not sure which, or maybe it's a combination.
@lawrencewillard6370
@lawrencewillard6370 4 жыл бұрын
Getting on myself, hah!, actually fully there, I think?.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
So true, it sucks to mess one up.
@timberdoodles4647
@timberdoodles4647 4 жыл бұрын
Watch out for ring shake on the hemlock. Some is sound and others are shaky, I can only surmise it due to soil types, we have junky hemlock around here, hope its decent stuff. Work it as green as you can.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hey buddy. This is young stuff in thick stands and not of ridges. Hopefully it'll be good stuff. I'm not a big fan but you know how it goes.
@timberdoodles4647
@timberdoodles4647 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel Oh yeah Go get it!
@reylaferriere1990
@reylaferriere1990 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Jim, if you are cutting a 1/2" frame wouldn't you have to drill deeper depth to allow for the extra 1/2" ???
@joseortiz5965
@joseortiz5965 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome
@e.r.1492
@e.r.1492 4 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity. Have you ever done your measurements in MM instead of in inches? I guess it depends on how one learns, but is it practical with this?
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I never have but I was raised with the imperial system. I hear that the metric system is easy but I do what I'm used to.
@CrimeVid
@CrimeVid 4 жыл бұрын
You know Jim, as I get older I find stuff more difficult to see, particularly tape measure gradations. So how the [apply unsuitable expletive ] can you read that tape !!? Nice demonstration, does not matter that it’s wobbly, as timber dries and twists it tightens up nicely !
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even know how I can read it!
@bryanmoir
@bryanmoir 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim... when you measured the 23.5 inches for the brace mortise is the measurment to the back, middle or front of the mortise?
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Send me a private message on Instagram and I'll give you my number. Be easier to explain that way.
@bryanmoir
@bryanmoir 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Jim, If you are cutting a 1-1/2 inch mortise, you mentioned you use a bit slightly less... So do you use a 1-3/8ths? Or if you have a 1-1/2 are you better to use that? Can you give a link to the set you bought on Amazon or one you would recommend. I just got my father-In-Law's old brace and want to give it a go for the mortise and the peg holes.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I'd go with the 1-1/2". Look into the Wood Owl website, they make excellent bits for what you want to do.
@charlesvickers4804
@charlesvickers4804 4 жыл бұрын
Maybe try using color pencils ,may make more visible for demonstration.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 4 жыл бұрын
When instructing give the wood parts a thin coat of white paint so the pencil lines show up.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Good idea. I did about 300 timber framing videos on this channel, and with the early camera equipment I was using it didn't show very well.
@gregwarner3753
@gregwarner3753 4 жыл бұрын
Excellent lessons.
@retiringrenegade9874
@retiringrenegade9874 4 жыл бұрын
Jim, would that measurement from the bottom of the beam actually start from the reference face and aris? Then adding the beam top to housing bottom dimension would allow You to precut everything regardless of the overall thickness of the beam? Just want to clarify my understanding Brother!
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@retiringrenegade9874
@retiringrenegade9874 4 жыл бұрын
@@TheTradesmanChannel See an old fkr can and does pay attention!
@retiringrenegade9874
@retiringrenegade9874 4 жыл бұрын
Wahoo, I'm not too old to learn!
@newdogatplay
@newdogatplay 4 жыл бұрын
Everyone thinks im weard for talking in my truck to myself to jim but honestly ive just not found anyone id wrather talk to then myself,lol i always seem to get the point across without any major feedback
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Hey, no-one understands me like I do. I find my most intelligent conversations are with myself.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Same here!
@Ajwatters
@Ajwatters 4 жыл бұрын
20:54 I'm am so childish 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
@ssx2channel977
@ssx2channel977 4 жыл бұрын
The price is right for those trees.
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
Hello Don
@ssx2channel977
@ssx2channel977 4 жыл бұрын
TheTradesmanChannel evening Jim I am glad you are busy at work and I miss you videos and dry pine is hard to work with
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I miss doing daily uploads, you guys are a part of my life now.
@exroyalcanadian
@exroyalcanadian 4 жыл бұрын
Two hours north? That's where I live lol
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I've been working in Massena, long haul up the river from my house.
@jasminebebe3455
@jasminebebe3455 3 жыл бұрын
I am lazy... I would start these out with a router.
@tacticalrabbit308
@tacticalrabbit308 4 жыл бұрын
Wait till you try carving 20 year old dry walnut wood , I'm trying to carve out pistol grips from it
@thomasarussellsr
@thomasarussellsr 4 жыл бұрын
Stick it in a steam sauna for a week first, maybe? Just a thought. Or, soak it in mineral oil, in a vacuum chamber, till it stops bubbling?
@dakotareid1566
@dakotareid1566 Жыл бұрын
That brace doesn’t look very straight keeps wobbling everywhere
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel Жыл бұрын
That's what they do until you put the frame members together, the bearing surfaces are on the ends. They work in compression.
@mikehegdahl5393
@mikehegdahl5393 4 жыл бұрын
It drills just fine, your just power tool spoiled! Lol. Just kidding bud
@TheTradesmanChannel
@TheTradesmanChannel 4 жыл бұрын
I am power tool spoiled, very spoiled!
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