How I Fixed This Roof Rail Dent - Paintless Dent Removal Training

[@billramsey800]

Nice repair Tom also made more difficult in the cold climate. Keep your recovery positive 👍

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank Bill, now both my wife and I suffer with our backs I am thinking we need a warmer climate generally :) Do you want two roomies? Hope you're well buddy!

[@billramsey800]

​@@LearnPDROnlineNo problem Tom will add you guys to my guest list along with a few other friends who are also hitting me up🤣👍

[@carrozzeriatonon5169]

Perché non tradurre il dialogo in italiano

[@1st_track_dents]

Another quality repair Tom! 👍

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Jake 🙏

[@manic_tinkerer]

Watching a number of your vids while trying to prep my daughters first car which is a peugeot 207 with a few prominent dents but fresh paint over them including one in the outer sill where it looks like someone used a jack and it fell off that's similar to this one and no internal access. 30 years ago I worked as a vehicle inspector and did basic rectification and paint touchups and cutting paint back etc on brand new cars and quite enjoyed it before moving into computers in the 90's so its a bit of nostalgia in a way. On the 207 sill I've glue pulled most of it out and tried to tap down outside the crease but the last bit of the centre is stubborn so I stopped to do more research and get a lightboard before overworking it and I see I need to do some work on the tensions around the edge to create the conditions to get the rest of it out. Too old now to make a career out of it, but I like to do everything myself.After the 207, son's has a old Astra G that was cheap because it is covered in golf ball sized hail dents, and I think I'd like the challenge of that to progress after on too. After 3 decades of computer security, its really theraputic...

[@LearnPDROnline]

I am glad you are finding it therapeutic, I get like that when I am in the flow with repairs. Yes it is difficult finishing, most people struggle to get out the last 20% of a repair and this is where either training or stubborn determination is needed lol. It sounds like you have the right approach taking a step back and doing more research most peopl have a tendancy to rush which is actually the slower way long term. We do have a few retirees within our training program, also not looking to make a career just enjoying the hobby side of it helping friends, family and staying active. Good luck to you and If you really get the bug for it get in touch 👍

[@Grok-AI]

the PDR guys in my area would laugh at me if i brought this dent to them… Apparently they only do dings in large panels… Nice work!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Seems strange... A dent is a dent, and a panel is a panel, lol. We work all variety of dents across multiple vehicles an panel types!

[@sureshlingabathina]

Good you see you back on road to work.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Not yet but hopefully soon, this was actually one of the last repairs I did before my accident! Thank you for watching

[@jhh243]

Brother, thank you so much for showing us how to do this! Liked and subscribed!

[@LearnPDROnline]

No problem, thanks for watching John!

[@ericgraham7026]

Hi Tom, great videos - thank you. I’m wondering - what’s the difference between hot and cold glues?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Eric, I use cold glue to reduce large damage quickly so if the panel is a large soft dent its usually quicker to start pulling it out back into shape with cold glue, it allows for a softer pull so you can work quickly without causing big high spots with each pull, for me hot glue is stronger and more precise so as the damage gets smaller I switch to hot glue to give me stronger pull to lift stubborn low spots.

[@johncampos1780]

Hot glue comes in rods and is applied with a hot glue gun, usually used with pull tabs, cold glue will come in a package, where you'll have to warm it up by stretching it out or hit it with the heat gun, you'll be using this with a weighted slide puller.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks for your input@@johncampos1780

[@anthonyscuderijr.cluchfc6602]

I have a 2021 Dodge Challenger with a very small ding on the rear c-pillar. A local PDR guy said that the only answer is glue but that it is difficult because that part of the car uses high strength steel so he doubled the price. The very shall ding is about the size of a quarter. The car does have a graphene ceramic type coating. Will the glue stick? the ding is in the center of a wide C-pillar so no edges or paint damage at all. Any advice? Thanks for your help!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes, when we come across dents on pillars, it does usually mean glue pulling is required due to limited access to these structural parts of the vehicle. HSS does make the dent trickier to repair but the coating shouldn't be a problem, if they remove it for the repair then you may wish to get that section recoated again. If the damage is in the centre of a flat section and not across the corners or edges it should be fine for a PDR repair 👍

[@steveo3002]

what made you choose a square tab for the second pull vs a round or oval? thanks

[@LearnPDROnline]

Good question, I chose the square tab for its size, the square shape allows more contact area between the tab and the panel vs the equivalent round tab in this particular 'smooth series tab' collection in otherwords i wanted to pull as much up at one time as I could, however I pulled a high spot into the low area, not ideal but it got the metal moving making the overall depth less. 👍

[@tacoconch7678]

Pulling on the dent with the slide hammer while tapping down the crowns is such a good idea. Is that common practice?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks, it is something I have done for many years, I am not sure if its common practice or not amongst other techs but I expect so, as its about getting the metal moving and understanding metal flow!

[@stucroft2340]

Hi Tom I have a repair to carry out with several 3 to 4mm dents very close to each other do you have any advice to carrying out the repair

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hi Stu, it difficult to offer any advice as I am unsure of your current level, have you had any training yet or are you already out there fixing dents? Also depends on the car, the location of the damage and the tools available to you?

[@stucroft2340]

Hi Tom thanks for the reply I have done easy dents on my other cars with good results however this car a Mini R60 is difficult as the door has a strength bar right where the dents are, I have a selection of tools from eBay nothing professional and wouldn't mind learning a little more to may be done this as a paying hobby as I'm retired in Turkey

[@LearnPDROnline]

@@stucroft2340 No problem, yes a lot of Mini doors can be tricky with upper sections being double skinned in places and those side impact bars! Its a great hobby and if you get the feel for it and then the passion it can be a truly great career! If ever you'd like to chat more about our online training we offer you can reach me at [e-mail]

[@tripsadelica]

This was an amazing repair! I've now watched a number of your videos and I am super impressed with your patience and your level of skill and, of course, the outcome of each repair. Brilliant...truly brilliant. I came onto KZbin to see how I could use my home PDR glue puller and pull up glue hammer to remove a smooth concave dent in the right rear wheel arch of my Holden Commodore Sportwagon ("estate" for you guys in Old Blighty). I stupidly rubbed the wheel arch against a soft pine upright on my car port by accident. I am anal retentive when it comes to any damage on my car. I hate door dings and such. So once I saw the damage I was heartbroken! I will give the glue puller a go but if it doesn't work out I will hire a professional whom, I hope, has your level of skill and patience! From one "Tom" downunder to you, Tom, "up-over"...greetings! 🙂

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you I appreciate your comment. Many years ago I was travelling around Australia and I think I had an old Falcon Station Wagon, that had quite a few dents in but was before I was a PDR tech! I am all up for people having a go but yes if in doubt do call a professional, working on any car with out training has its own risks but go slow learn as much as possible and let us know how you go. All the best and thank you!

[@tripsadelica]

@@LearnPDROnline I wish I could post pictures here but perhaps I will go to your website and email the pictures of the results. I managed to get some of the concave indentation out using a glue hammer and the lever-handle glue puller. I was careful to gently warm the metal with a heat gun before trying to lift the metal. I got out about 30% of the dent. I did call in a professional who spent nearly two hours patiently using his glue hammer and various glue tabs to slowly pull the dent up. He was meticulous in lifting, then tapping to change the direction of the metal lift and then glue pulling again. He managed to get 95% of the dent out but there is still a tiny ripple on the edge of the arch where the metal turns 90 degrees under the arch itself (right on the edge). The technician explained that the Holdens have a double skin in this area which makes it virtually impossible to completely repair by pushing behind the panel. Feeling under the arch you can tell he is right. He was loath to continue pulling in case the paintwork gave up the ghost. The damage is now barely perceptible and you really need to look for it. Me being anal retentive means I can see it! 😄 My solution will be to stick a rubber wheel arch protector over all the wheel arches and then you won't be able to see a thing. I tell you...being a pedantic obsessive about the finish of one's car is a dangerous and expensive thing! Thanks for being so kind to reply. I really appreciate it. I think I am going to watch the entire series of your videos so I can learn more about the craft. I am even considering buying my own Magnetic Induction machine from Aliexpress. If I do I will go to a wrecker's yard and buy an old bonnet or door to practice on. Fun and games! 🤣

[@gusmehmet5632]

Hi just come across your video. I have a similar dent on my car. Do you do any work in the croydon surrey area?

[@LearnPDROnline]

I don't myself but you could try Richard - dentdoctorltd.co.uk/

[@yezkaholic]

What the average cost of a repair like this on same exact location would run? Thanks for the Video Tom😊

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks, its hard to say the average cost as price really does vary a lot from location to location and individual techs pricing systems however in the UK I would estimate £150-£300 as a rough idea. I did this particular dent in combination with another car my customer had so I offered a price based on both repairs being carried out together.

[@yezkaholic]

@LearnPDROnline you were spot on Tom, I had a guy come out here in Central California and billed me $150usd he did a great job not as good as you would have did though Tom! Cheers mate

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[@LearnPDROnline]

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[@tommorgan7981]

nice work

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 👍

[@darrensmith-h5m]

How much would a repair like that cost

[@LearnPDROnline]

Pricing varies a lot across the industry and across the globe to be honest, so it really depends on where you are, as to what it might cost you to get a similar repaired, for me this was around £150-200 if I remember correctly, I did it alongside another dent my customer had on his other vehicle so gave a price for both repairs together.

[@swedenlifebyadnan]

How much did you charge for this work?

[@LearnPDROnline]

I did this particular dent in combination with another car my customer had so I offered a slightly discounted price based on both repairs being carried out together however from memory I think it was around the £200 mark

[@MastaSerge]

How it was cost approximately?

[@LearnPDROnline]

This repair was around the £200 mark from memory, however I was carrying out more than one repair for this customer so had offered a combined discount for both of his vehicles.

[@dominikkrajzel7011]

Good job. I bought the car after the hail. I have many dents to fix similar to yours. Now i know that its hard work to do😅

[@dentremover01]

Get Tom on it, he’ll sort it no probs

[@LearnPDROnline]

Ha ha, yes it is hard work, but it is a process that can be taught! Do your research and learn as much as possible before you start on your own vehicle. If you're just starting out you will make dents worse before you learn how to make them better which is why we always start on spare panels or salvage cars! 👍🏻

[@LearnPDROnline]

I've taken early retirement 🤣

[@dentremover01]

@@LearnPDROnline oh bloodyhell!

[@ralphtorres5302]

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[@jirizahradnik9408]

Super ..great job..

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you🙏

[@yellowduck8061]

Skilled technician here.👏👏👋🇺🇲

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@FPV-TV419]

Roof rails and a-c pillars are 🤢 to work on! So difficult to cross check. And glue only repairs i hate too 😂... what would take 10 mins to finish with a bar takes 5 times longer with glue lol

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yep, rails are definitely tough if the damage is bad like this one and do usually take longer however, when you get a small shallow dent on a rail its often really quick to glue pull once you have some glue pulling skills, it took me a while to get into glue pulling at first but its a great skill to have and on certain damage types is the quickest way to the end result!

[@ignaciorodriguez5001]

This looks very difficult

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes, roof rails can be difficult as there is no access to the inside of the panel and there is also a lot of tension because it is a narrow panel that is also curved.

[@uwuweewee]

British youtubers talk too much, repeat too much. We get it, you don't want to finish on that edge, now get on with the video

[@LearnPDROnline]

Ha ha, keyboard warriors like you that hide behind no name profiles to share your pointless negative views whilst complaining about a free video that you chose to watch We get it, you've got nothing to contribute yourself but would like some attention, well done you here you go 👏

[@sahar9314]

very bothering pauses in explanations

[@LearnPDROnline]

Sorry to bother you?

[@Fanta....]

dont watch it then sook