How To Fix A Crease Dent With Glue | Paintless Dent Removal

[@aware2action]

Using optical distortion, as a guide for PDR work is truly ingenious❤👍

[@LearnPDROnline]

They say 'You cant fix what you cant read' so whatever helps you read and understand the distortion and reflection best is the way forward. Thank you

[@MarkGreen91]

Been working on some PDR myself it definitely takes the patience of a saint can't wait till I can do this in my sleep

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes it certainly takes a ton of patience and motivation to get good at PDR. Keep pushing!

[@bhairu9]

You are such a skilled artist with perfection in your mind. Great to see such craftsmen in this day and age

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you, that's very kind, I do love PDR and have a passion for teaching too!

[@dougsmith-fr7mf]

In the 70' you just sand it down and fill it with Bondo. Crazy that you can get the results you do with no filler. Good job!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes indeed, when I started body repair 20+ years ago I began as a panel beater, filling damage or replacing panels, seeing small dents being removed with PDR got me hooked! Thank you

[@photoren]

It's because the sheet metal is so much thinner with modern cars. Paper thin for certain models.

[@haveagoharry4999]

Fair play I've seen some impressive stuff over the years and this is up there with the best. Gone are the sleepless nights worrying about dents, just call these guys!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you, it was a little tricky Il admit but yes we saved the side of this car from a repair and repaint! 👍

[@raymondquadros7142]

Excellent. Thanks a lot for teaching us your secrets in Dent Removal. Truly appreciate it. Regards from San Jose, California.

[@LearnPDROnline]

You're very welcome I am glad you enjoy my videos!

[@jamesknightreading]

Wow. You are a true artist my friend. Really interesting video even for someone like me who is not wanting to start a business.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you for taking the time to give me your feedback, much appreciated!

[@Lonewolf-kw8gg]

It's amazing how many body repair shops claim they can do PDR repairs over the phone when you describe the damage to them only to be told they will need to fill and respray the damaged panel once you show up with the vehicle, the damage to my car looks no worse than the dent you are working on @ 3:02 (small crease) My car is a 2 door c class coupe with no access from behind the panel to the rear wing so needs to be pulled out. I'm going to be patient and wait until I find an independent specialist with hopefully your skill level to repair my car as I prefer to keep the original paint if possible. Great tutorial.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you, much appreciated. Yes bodyshops will often say yes upfront, occasionally they have an in house tech but more often than not they outsource and bring in a local tech, so it depends on the relationship with the tech and their understanding of PDR. There are plenty of good highly skilled technicians around but it does depend on your area however if you value your car and the original paint its worth waiting until you find one 👍

[@tigerf691]

Excellent work! I did a dent repair years ago. Have a couple small ones to try tomorrow.🤞

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 🙏

[@1st_track_dents]

Nice one Tom, hope this is a recent repair and you are back on your feet 👍

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Jake, this repair is taken from our training site, I'm still off recovering for a little while yet but Il get there!

[@edwinmedina4338]

Thanks for the Video Tom 👍. Getting better every day myself! Hopefully by now you are up and feeling Great again. Cheers from Texas US

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Edwin I'm glad you are practising and getting better! I'm doing ok thank you, still recovering but well on the way now 💪

[@VladimirZalenski]

Also hope you have had a speedy recovery brother 🙏

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 🙏

[@grntchstrmdws]

If ever there were a trade that is as much a science as it is an art, this is one. It's a fascinating process that makes me wonder how it all started. Who pioneered it? Who were the people that developed the tools for it? And learning the techniques requires hands on experience, but the potential to do damage exists so learning and earning a living could be very stressful. I would think you'd have to spend many days at an auto wreckers repairing junked cars before you could accept paid work.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes it is often referred to as an art but certainly some science behind it too! Like any skilled trade it does take a little while to get to a good standard and yes you can definitely can make things worse without the right training or understanding. perseverance and determination are two good skills to have when learning PDR!

[@josepholiveri299]

You are just amazing..i am new to this from usa..i have a robo lifter a few nylon knockdowns..keco tabs..i have tried to pull small dent crease..but it aint moving much

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you! creases can be tough and sometimes need to be 'opened up' a few times before they can be pulled. This one did fight me a bit but we got there in the end. I am biased when it comes to training as I do offer online training but having the knowledge on what to do when and why, does make the whole learning process a lot easier!

[@awakeandaware2707]

Outstanding work. Your expertise is greatly appreciated. Thank you.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you I'm glad you enjoy my videos!

[@adriankirk4644]

Incredible skills. Well done.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Adrian! 🙏

[@daryl9799]

I dont know how you use that line board with that reflection to see everything properly using a light is so much easier. I've been doing pdr for 18 years wouldn't be able to do my job with it but it works for you nice job.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Some people find lines easier others find light easier, whether you use lines, lights, reflector boards or natural light and reflections its all a personal preference, you just need to be understanding the distortion in a way that makes sense to you as a tech to be able to read it and reverse it, Thanks

[@andrewmallard2301]

Superb work. Well done.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Andrew, much appreciated 🙏

[@jon7926]

What would be a good starter tool kit for someone getting into pdr ?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hey Jon, in my opinion, this is the perfect beginners tool kit for PDR, check it out here - bletools.com/products/16pc-pdr-kt?_pos=1&_sid=8d5fe3953&_ss=r

[@desmondharney1185]

Fantastic job

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you! 👍

[@alexanderSydneyOz]

I can imagine much older, and likely retired, panel beaters looking at PDR and thinking "why didn't anyone think of that in my day?"

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes, you're probably right, whilst PDR has been around for decades, the tools and technology such as glue pulling has come on heaps in the last 5 - 10 years 👍🏻

[@davidshareefChTPhD]

😂 I've been custom painting for over 30 years and I can tell you your statement is 100% correct I'm on these videos watching and learning because I'm going to start doing PDR at the first of the year😊😊😊

[@LearnPDROnline]

@@davidshareefChTPhD Yes PDR can be addictive and it makes a great add on to any paint business! be sure to check out our training platform when you get started :)

[@chidubemoruche5723]

In their defence car bodies were a more solid steel and wouldn't have been easy to manipulate like modern day aluminium monocoques.

[@tjonesauto]

Metal was waay thicker back then.

[@jeanwilson3752]

it did turn out nicely

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@waltradcliffe4482]

Most dents I have like this one are usually gouged into the metal, I still use the pdr many are repaired with one coat of primer & paint

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yes even if the paint is damaged and it requires respraying, PDR is great to reduce materials such as fillers as well as reducing repair times in a bodyshop environment. 👍

[@jasont2074]

Bravo, that’s unbelievable

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 🙏

[@RobertWarner-p2f]

Excellent

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 🙏

[@alfredorecalde3528]

Leyendo los mensajes me entero que has tenido un accidente. Espero que ya hayas superado con fuerza ese momento. Saludos desde Córdoba Argentina y excelente video.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you Alfredo, I really appreciate it. I'm getting stronger each day and will get back to repairing dents later this year!

[@craigdeakin7956]

great work and video

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you Craig, much appreciated!

[@billramsey800]

Nice repair Tom, hope you are well 👍

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Bill, I'm getting there mate!

[@awakeandaware2707]

Gosh. I was completely unaware that you had suffered any misfortune, regarding an injury. My best wishes to you, as well.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks, I'm recovering well, step by step :)

[@Relicsun]

That’s a perfect repair.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@broadcastingtv.8428]

Thank u so much ,, just a question what is that spray u used to remoove the glue is it water or fuel or alchool what is it exactly ? Thank u

[@LearnPDROnline]

You're welcome! The liquid is isopropyl alcohol, it is used to clean the panel prior to glue pulling, and also to remove the glue after the pull

[@Cheltenhamwebdesign]

Hi Love the videos on dent repair stupid question which glue do you recommend using? Regards- T

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you, and that's not a stupid question at all. There are many brands to choose from and some are specifically designed for warm/cold climates so it depends on where you are but I use this stuff from my local supplier in the UK - bletools.com/collections/glue/products/100-x-high-strength-clear-glue-sticks

[@wyattoneable]

Outstanding.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks Wyatt. I appreciate you watching and commenting :)

[@johnnyshobbies1384]

thank you so much for this tutorial, would it be better for the pulling machine to have a couple of slow pulls or would it be better just to have one quick fast pull.. hope you understand my question.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks, with the lifter I usually use slow controlled pulls as it is easier to see how much the metal is being pulled but occasionally a quick sharp snap can work well, generally for the quick fast pull I would use the Slide hammer over the lifter, 👍

[@DrNoth]

That's amazing

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks, much appreciated

[@mgherter]

Thanks for posting, these videos have at least given the confidence to try PDR on a door panel before I just try to find a new one at a junk yard. Do you have an Amazon store or just a list of tools you would suggest for a beginner DIY?

[@LearnPDROnline]

You're welcome, I'm glad they help. I don't have an online store but in this video I run through some of the key tools to start learning - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f56vpmyCoJekedE

[@roblewis6498]

love your work.. What kind of cost would some expect for this kind of work? trying to work out if doing the course would make sense and then look as a new job opportunity

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hi Rob, Thank you, I'm glad you enjoy the videos. If you are weighing up the repair cost versus training for a dent on your own vehicle, it will be cheaper to get a pdr tech in as the training and tools will out weigh the cost of a one off repair, however if you are considering a new career in PDR then its definitely worth chatting with me more about training options, timescales and start up costs as a PDR business can be very successful when set up correctly, to chat more about training you can reach me via email at [e-mail] no obligations just the best advice I can

[@tn7707]

I would like to learn how to remove the small dent from my aluminium boot and fender of my BMW 630 . Which course is suitable from your pdr school ? Your technique is very useful for me to repair my own cars

[@LearnPDROnline]

We have two courses available, the Foundation course teaches the basics of PDR and covers tools required and how to remove a number of different style dents. We then have the full 7 step program which is designed to teach everything from the foundation right through to starting your own PDR business. I would image the foundation course would be ideal for your training needs. here is a link to our training - www.learnpdronline.com/shop/

[@vebnew]

WAY COOL

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you! 😎

[@hotelgulf]

Nicely done.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@tedstecker3251]

Great job excellent video.Thank you

[@attieholliday]

, Fantastic

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@LearnPDROnline]

@@attieholliday Thanks

[@TheMaauw]

great work! Around how much would a repair this well done set you back? Sadly enough i have a similar sized dent on that spot, tho less V shaped :)

[@LearnPDROnline]

How much a repair like this costs on your own vehicle will depend where you are in the world and the local PDR techs in your area, for me this was somewhere around £200 however I was doing more than one vehicle for this customer so I offered a combined discount on both repairs, I also underestimated how tough it would be to lift the final crease so it did take longer than I originally thought to repair. Thanks for your comment

[@VladimirZalenski]

Flipping class work brother outstanding. How could i get in touch iv been paint and body tech for 13 years now and i still love it just feel like i need to dive into this before i get left behind dude.. my daughter is 9 now and i would love to have a little more in the tank when i get home to her, as you know yourself being a body technician before jumping into pdr the body shop can be taxing on the body.. i absolutely obsesse over detailed work and i tnink with reputation and patience in time i could become a competent PDR tech.. i feel like your content along with the dent remover are class at your craft 👌 im currently watching wjat tools to get amd then get on to your online pdr course 👌 if you get the time could you drop me a reply please brother. Your time will be much appreciated. You are the pdr gate keeper,pdr gods are whispering in my ear 👂 😂

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you for your comment I really appreciate it and yes my passion now is helping others so I'd love to chat more about your PDR journey. Send me an email anytime to [e-mail] and I'll happily talk through what to expect and how to get started and when you're ready to level up, I walk you through my entire training program and help you transform! My goal is to help you achieve yours, chat soon

[@haflam.]

Would this also work on a box beam, of is this a problem, because of thikker material?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks for your question, Yes this is the method I would use if I couldn't get behind the dent, it does also depend what's behind the panel so a box beam may have internal bonding depending on location which could make it tougher to pull the metal but glue would be the go to!

[@markchatelier5096]

Loved this video - can you visit Berkshire? Junction 12 of the M4?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you. If you can send some photos of your damage via email to [e-mail] I will take a look and advise you further on your repair options 👍

[@irfandogar7261]

Sir when u have steel tool tip

[@stanleylund6826]

Don't know if this would have worked back then. Today's vehicles have steel that's half as thick as it used to be!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Yeah it is a slightly different process when working older cars with thicker metal, the older ones were harder to dent but often physically harder to fix. Panels today are easier to dent but often get stretched which is tough where as the old thicker panels would take more to damage them. I don't generally use the hot glue method on cars that are more than 25 years old as the paint seems more brittle!

[@kylsters]

what do you spray on to release the glue so easily? also which glue are you using? cheers

[@LearnPDROnline]

I use Isopropryl Alchol. I use it to clean the panel before and then again to release the glue 👍

[@pdrprojectspaintlessdentre8323]

Tom how you doing mate, are better now? I’m sorry to hear about your accident, are you back working?…. As you’ve just put this video out I wasn’t sure?….

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hi Andrew, I'm getting better thanks, not back to work for a few more weeks yet as I still have some recovering to do and a whole load of physio but il get there!

[@abolfazlkhorramipdr]

Hey sir Which brand of glue do you use ??

[@LearnPDROnline]

I use a few but the one I use the most is High Strength Clear Glue from BLE Tools - www.bletools.com

[@michaelupsala420]

where do you purchase those suction tools?

[@LearnPDROnline]

In this video I am not using any suction tools I am primarily using glue pulling tools and techniques, it depends where you are in the world as to where is best to purchase from but for the lifter I am using kecotabs.co.uk/products/keco-robo-lifter and my favourite tabs are from www.blackplaguepdr.com/ 👍

[@Ifixitagain]

i have a crease dent in the rear door of my B7 Passat. the crease is on the raised line in the lower third of the door (it was driven too close to carport post) . I know its possible to remove inside door panel but that does not seem to give access to the rear of the dent since theres a plasic panel with window and door gubbins in the way. Do you know how I would get to the rear of the dent to try to push it out?

[@LearnPDROnline]

If stripping down the door for access then you would also need to remove that inner plastic panel too which often includes the window regulator. If you do not want to remove these items then glue pulling from the outside may be the only option 👍

[@Petethebuilder]

I subscribed to your channel love the content👍 how do you get the glue to stick so good? I cleaned the area very well but tabs come right off

[@LearnPDROnline]

What are you using to clean the panel? I use Isopropryl alcohol. if you havent seen this video yet it may help you find the probolem - kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6azhayLjsdsa68

[@Petethebuilder]

@@LearnPDROnline I just seen the video I started using isopropyl alcohol and the glue is sticking 👌👍

[@rutlandsausage2768]

Great repair, very impressive. I’m sure the customer was very happy. If you don’t mind me asking, what did you charge for the repair and what was the overall repair time?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you for your kind comment, this repair was actually completed a year or so ago so I do not remember exactly but I believe it was around 4 hours to repair and between £300-400 👍

[@vendettashoa8455]

Fantastic work!

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you!

[@garypreston6300]

Where can I buy the tool from and glue

[@LearnPDROnline]

Which tool? I use a few during this repair. The Slide hammer and glue I use is from BLE Tools - bletools.com/collections/glue The lifter is from Keco - kecotabs.co.uk/collections/robo-mini-lifters/products/keco-robo-lifter Blending Hammer from - kecotabs.co.uk/products/shane-jacks-12-5-jackhammer-blending-hammer-with-2-interchangable-tips

[@irfandogar7261]

Assalamo alykum hello sir what is function of plastic tapdown tip

[@LearnPDROnline]

I use both plastic and steel knock downs, they have different effects on the metal, usually a plastic or nylon one will give a 'softer' knock, so is great for larger or softer high spots where as a metal one I may use more for small micro highs where I am looking to move as little of the metal as possible with better accuracy, hope that helps

[@dolo_kaayy]

where’d u buy the product

[@LearnPDROnline]

Which product are you looking for?

[@Paul-ib5xv]

What glue do you use, thanks

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hi Paul I use a few but my main 'go to' is the clear high strength from BLE Tools - bletools.com/collections/glue/products/100-x-high-strength-clear-glue-sticks

[@Paul-ib5xv]

@LearnPDROnline Thanks, is it the glue that's more important or the quality of the tabs?

[@LearnPDROnline]

@Paul-ib5xv great, question... I'd say both to be honest but there are a lot of variables with glue pull repair, getting the temperature right and preparing the panel are probably the most important things to get right for a good pull, I've used loads of different tabs, my favourite are probably Black Plaque's gang green series but there's a ton of good ones, check the glue brand for ideal specifications depending on your climate/environment

[@cowcat7436]

that glue releases that easy with just a squirt of alcohol? @@LearnPDROnline

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

How are those tools sticking to the car without damaging the paint?

[@LearnPDROnline]

We use Glue that is designed specifically for Paintless Dent Removal so it can be safely used on original paint and its released from the panel with a product such as Isopropyl, thanks

[@kensmechanicalaffair]

@@LearnPDROnline I see, thanks.

[@heyricksander]

How do I get that glue?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Most PDR tool suppliers around the world stock and supply a variety of glues available to purchase online. I use this one in the UK - bletools.com/collections/glue/products/100-x-high-strength-clear-glue-sticks

[@amrfarrag6073]

Why you Don't use hot box generally?? What the disadvantages??

[@LearnPDROnline]

I do not have a hot box, I'm fully mobile so its not as easy for me personally to set one up on the go. You do still need access to an area inside the panel to create an earth point but yes a hot box could also help with this type of repair.

[@3209-f4h]

Tom, I’m asking you ladder use occupation?

[@LearnPDROnline]

Hi Seth, Sorry I don't understand your question, what do you mean?

[@user-kp1ml5wq4d]

I am having issues with glue pulling and I think it may be because of Temperature. Any suggestions to what temp the metal should be ? or how hot or cold it should be if you are working outside?

[@LearnPDROnline]

What's the issue you are having? There's a few variables to check depending on the issue. There are different glue types for different temperatures and panel prep can also pay a huge part

[@Hammondt88]

🍿🥤

[@LearnPDROnline]

🙏

[@MrSticks9999]

How is the stretching being handled? Many and most dents will stretch the metal, so shrinking is needed.

[@LearnPDROnline]

Great question, of course it varies depending on the damage but the majority of the time the metal is 'displaced' as opposed to 'stretched' so identifying the areas of tension where the displaced metal has moved to and then using the correct techniques to reverse the impact and allowing the metal to 'flow' back to its original form. Often when I am working on stretched metal I use shrinking techniques such as pushing with sharp tips behind the damage to group the metal together, this tightens the panel surrounding the stretch and allows the excess metal to be reworked towards its original position. Another option is to use a tool such as 'The Hot box' to shrink the panel, this is not a tool I use as a mobile repairer but I would recommend checking that out too! Thanks

[@steveohim]

Where do you get all the tools from for starting off? Amazon just sell Chinese crap by the looks of things

[@oldandintheway9805]

Tried this on my 2017 Hyundai Elantra. All it did was remove the paint where I applied the glue.

[@LearnPDROnline]

That sounds like the panel may have been painted before, the only time I have ever had that happen is on panels that have had filler and paintwork carried out, the original paint will not pull away with PDR assuming the correct glue is also used.

[@supermarketsweeps]

Nice job Tom i see you had a accident i send you my love hope everything's ok

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks John, yes I broke my back falling from a ladder but I am recovering well and getting stronger all the time, hope you're doing well

[@supermarketsweeps]

@@LearnPDROnline Ow S--t really , yes mate all good , been doing some glue pulling i will send you some pictures haven't had time to do any practising so a bit rusty

[@mav8903]

Good job. Next time drill it and bill it.

[@LearnPDROnline]

😆Thanks but I take pride in my work and this was for a customer who loves his vehicle, so drilling holes when its not necessary is not ideal especially when working with retail clients,

[@alexbrownley3338]

It’s not a fiat 500 it’s an ABARTH 595

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thanks 👍

[@62martin-Bozkurt]

I tried it it comes off because the glue comes with the dent remover does not work, what sort of glue are you using, because one pull the the dent remover plastic comes off

[@LearnPDROnline]

If the glue is coming off without sticking to the panel there are a few things to check, panel preparation, panel temp and how long the glue sets before pulling, different glues also have different affects ie, ones designed for hot or cold or ones designed for light pull vs heavy damage, its good to have a range, I get my glue from www.bletools.com or www.kecotabs.co.uk both are very good quality

[@steveash656]

Great techniques, truly impressive

[@LearnPDROnline]

Thank you 🙏